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Society's Failure

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I'm 18 years old and I before I knew about the Fastlane I was living a Sidewalker's life with a Slow Laner's mindset. It's the way I knew, it's the only way anybody had told me to go. Unfortunately, it's the way society tells all young people to go. I think society has tainted our (us youngins) definition of responsibility. I've noticed many other people like me, my friends, my peers in school, we define responsibility as having a career, paying bills, and having a mortgage. Society has taught us to believe that true responsibility was to wait until we were older and more "educated". When we're young, people doubt our abilities and tell us we're not "mature" enough to "understand" and eventually we let them convince us. And we wait for responsibility. We wait for life to come to us. Just like everyone else. We wait for our designated, predestined time to shine. It's time for society to stop suppressing all the different meanings of responsibility. Let us define our responsibility, and support it.
 
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Society has always been the issue with civilization. It has been that way since the early years of the world.

Most of what we know has been shoved into our minds since childbirth. Our entire existence is based upon belief systems that we hold. These lead to automatic responses for everything we do.

A review of these belief systems will help us to understand our world a lot better.

Good for you for recognizing one piece. Society is not to blame though. We can benefit by learning how to work around it though.
 
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I'm 18 years old and I before I knew about the Fastlane I was living a Sidewalker's life with a Slow Laner's mindset. It's the way I knew, it's the only way anybody had told me to go. Unfortunately, it's the way society tells all young people to go. I think society has tainted our (us youngins) definition of responsibility. I've noticed many other people like me, my friends, my peers in school, we define responsibility as having a career, paying bills, and having a mortgage. Society has taught us to believe that true responsibility was to wait until we were older and more "educated". When we're young, people doubt our abilities and tell us we're not "mature" enough to "understand" and eventually we let them convince us. And we wait for responsibility. We wait for life to come to us. Just like everyone else. We wait for our designated, predestined time to shine. It's time for society to stop suppressing all the different meanings of responsibility. Let us define our responsibility, and support it.

Welcome to the Fastlane. Glad you have the fire in your belly.

There are a lot of ways responsibility can be defined. One can be responsible for an action. One can make independent decisions. One can have control of a situation. One can get of of their parent's house and support themselves while making their way in life.

I hope all of your rant is not just hot air, I hope you impress and amaze the world. Show us your version of responsibility. I look forward to it. Good luck.
 

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It's time for society to stop suppressing all the different meanings of responsibility. Let us define our responsibility, and support it.
No.

The way you wrote this gives the control to someone out side of you. If you wait for society to let you do anything....you'll be stuck where you are your entire life.

You are, and have always been, and always will be...in control of where you are in life.

Congratulations, you've woken up...now take control of your life and make a decision of where you are going to go now.
 

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Its awesome that you're thinking this way at 18. Don't stop.

One word of caution. Its really easy at 18 to think that you know everything. Mainly because you don't know what you don't know. The antidote to that is humility. Approach everything from an attitude of 'there's always more that I can learn,' and 'let me find someone better than me that can advise me here.' Humility will save you from a lot of stupid mistakes. I should note that at 41, humility is just as important for me, too.

Humility + the 'lets redefine responsibility' ideas you talk about above will let you find what you're really good at, and make a ton of money off of it. That combination will also keep you away from things that will bankrupt you.
 
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Because I am tired to be told to worship homosexuals and transgenders, tired of all the idiotic myths and misconceptions about life and purpose, I am sick and tired of the pretentious and greedy being glorified and voluntary simplicity being ridiculed. I don't F*cking want an app for everything and by the way stop looking at your F*cking cellphone for one second and look at me like I am a human being and not a pop-up on your screen. Stop saying the word hashtag. Stop F*cking improving and updating everything. My message to society is can we just F*cking hit pause for like 2 decades and enjoy what we have? Nooooooooo, we gotta produce, produce, hire, fire, go go go. The spreadsheets, call support! Kim Kardashian is pregnant? Why the F*ck would I care, isn't everyone famous today anyways?

Move your a$$ to some desolate part of the world where they don't have all the stuff that you hate so much. Problem solved.

Look, everyone knows that control is an illusion in the sense you are referring to. You could get killed tomorrow walking your doggy. Who gives a shit?!?

However, every problem you stated is affecting YOU! You are making societies "problems" yours by how you react to it.

You don't want to be told to worship transgenders and homosexuals? - Don't tune in to the people who tell you that!
Tired of idiotic myths about whatever... Don't read, listen or engage in that.
Don't give two shits about Kardasians, don't pay attention to that.

Pretty much everything you stated I wholeheartedly agree with, the difference is I don't let that shit bother me. YOU clearly do. And therein lies your choice.

So, pontificate away and keep claiming everything someones fault other than your own if that somehow makes you feel validated.

However, I (choose) not to let that garbage have control over my life!
 
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I'm 18 years old and I before I knew about the Fastlane I was living a Sidewalker's life with a Slow Laner's mindset. It's the way I knew, it's the only way anybody had told me to go. Unfortunately, it's the way society tells all young people to go. I think society has tainted our (us youngins) definition of responsibility. I've noticed many other people like me, my friends, my peers in school, we define responsibility as having a career, paying bills, and having a mortgage. Society has taught us to believe that true responsibility was to wait until we were older and more "educated". When we're young, people doubt our abilities and tell us we're not "mature" enough to "understand" and eventually we let them convince us. And we wait for responsibility. We wait for life to come to us. Just like everyone else. We wait for our designated, predestined time to shine. It's time for society to stop suppressing all the different meanings of responsibility. Let us define our responsibility, and support it.
Interestingly our generation, or a small subset of it, is slowly waking up to this. 50 years ago, quitting a cushy corporate job to work for yourself was far less a phenomenon than today. All I can say is, being on the other side of the interviewing table is only getting more rewarding and couldn't imagine going back to working for someone else.
 

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Everyone thinks they have control until they realize they were being fooled. You didn't bring yourself into this world. You don't control when or how you will die. Why would you believe that you always have control over your life?

Because there are far more controllable things than everyone thinks. Saying and living like you are not in control is half way into taking what you can control for uncontrollable.

Now let me go back to my medium wage job, because only the rich or lucky can get rich and I have no control over that, I'm just unlucky.
 

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You don't have control over society, you're correct. But once you "wake up" you have control over your reaction to the repeated attempts at brainwashing.

Sure, you can't control the "feelthebern" clowns, but you can ignore them.

You can't control when you die? Sure you can. You can jump out into traffic, that's exerting control. Or you can do everything you can to mitigate known risks of premature death (obesity, etc.) and hope for the best.

Why are you so concerned with society? why all the angst over it?

Because I am tired to be told to worship homosexuals and transgenders, tired of all the idiotic myths and misconceptions about life and purpose, I am sick and tired of the pretentious and greedy being glorified and voluntary simplicity being ridiculed. I don't F*cking want an app for everything and by the way stop looking at your F*cking cellphone for one second and look at me like I am a human being and not a pop-up on your screen. Stop saying the word hashtag. Stop F*cking improving and updating everything. My message to society is can we just F*cking hit pause for like 2 decades and enjoy what we have? Nooooooooo, we gotta produce, produce, hire, fire, go go go. The spreadsheets, call support! Kim Kardashian is pregnant? Why the F*ck would I care, isn't everyone famous today anyways?
 

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Everyone thinks they have control until they realize they were being fooled. You didn't bring yourself into this world. You don't control when or how you will die. Why would you believe that you always have control over your life?

If society was indeed in control, then everyone would end up exactly the same. However, that's not the case.

There are plenty of young millionaires that made it. Now ask yourself? Why are they different than you?

The answer as rough as it may be to hear is because they don't/didn't have these self limiting beliefs. They don't/didn't care what the world told them was right, acceptable or the norm. They were mavericks! They blazed their own trail.

And you know what: You can do the exact same thing. YOU ARE IN CONTROL of the decisions you make, of the things you believe, of the effort you put forth.

Once you take 100% accountability for your life and your future, the world opens up to you. You can do or be anything you want.
 

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Debating whether or not we have control over our lives is nothing more than mental masturbation--you don't even get the pleasure of an orgasm.

If you're bothered by what's going on in the world, quit analyzing it. Go out and do something that brings actual value to people's lives.
 

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Welcome to the Fastlane. Glad you have the fire in your belly.

There are a lot of ways responsibility can be defined. One can be responsible for an action. One can make independent decisions. One can have control of a situation. One can get of of their parent's house and support themselves while making their way in life.

I hope all of your rant is not just hot air, I hope you impress and amaze the world. Show us your version of responsibility. I look forward to it. Good luck.

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And, OP, to your post, this is the way it has always been. "Society" has always previously been set up to facilitate the survival of the most people in the best way possible. Now that we've evolved to a point where survival is no longer the primary objective (in this country, at least, we're lucky), it's up to YOU to figure out what you want & pursue that. You can complain about what you were taught/brought up with or you can be grateful that you're born in a place that allows you time/safety to make such pontificates instead of having to avoid RPG's on your walk to the grocery store.
 

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Interestingly our generation, or a small subset of it, is slowly waking up to this. 50 years ago, quitting a cushy corporate job to work for yourself was far less a phenomenon than today. All I can say is, being on the other side of the interviewing table is only getting more rewarding and couldn't imagine going back to working for someone else.

I'm not too sure of that. Last I checked there are twice as many people per capita are going to college today when compared to the 1980's. That's why people (especially the younger generation) are trying to increase minimum wage instead of economic output/productivity. Most jobs that didn't require a degree in the past do now because there's too many people looking for high wage work so employers can raise requirements.
 
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Well there has to be people who work or many businesses couldn’t thrive. And indeed there are many people who are happy doing as such. George from of mice and men. "I could go get a job an' work, an' no trouble. No mess at all, and when the end of the month come I could take my fifty bucks and go into town and get whatever I want. Why, I could stay in a cathouse all night. I could eat any place I want, hotel or any place, and order any damn thing I could think of. An' I could do all that every damn month. Get a gallon of whisky, or set in a pool room and play cards or shoot pool." For many the risk isn't something they want and there’s nothing wrong with that. Just be thankful you found your path and welcome to the world of an entrepreneur!
 
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Because I am tired to be told to worship homosexuals and transgenders, tired of all the idiotic myths and misconceptions about life and purpose, I am sick and tired of the pretentious and greedy being glorified and voluntary simplicity being ridiculed. I don't F*cking want an app for everything and by the way stop looking at your F*cking cellphone for one second and look at me like I am a human being and not a pop-up on your screen. Stop saying the word hashtag. Stop F*cking improving and updating everything. My message to society is can we just F*cking hit pause for like 2 decades and enjoy what we have? Nooooooooo, we gotta produce, produce, hire, fire, go go go. The spreadsheets, call support! Kim Kardashian is pregnant? Why the F*ck would I care, isn't everyone famous today anyways?

You having a bad day? Seem a little angry.

I thought this was a business forum and business is about growing, improving, and optimizing. Not sure what the problem is.
 
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Why are you working on your "fastlane" in the first place if you are okay with society. If it doesn't bother you then why are you grinding away your time until you can come out of your cocoon and not have to actually be a cog in the wheel anymore, or a ghost in the machine, or a social insurance number. To be able to say "F*ck society", I am independent and virtually self-sufficient. I thought that was one of the main reason beside wanting to create value no?

Yes I do fastlane partly because i don't wanna be a cog, true.
Have you ever seen a cog pop out of a machine? It takes a lot of shaking around, a massive amount of effort, while all the other cogs are still doing their thing around you.
You can't touch those other cogs during your escape, they can only watch you vibrate your way out and that's all you can really do to inspire, through your actions!

anyways lol... when i said "not bothered" i meant i just don't have the time or energy to care anymore cause im so goddamn busy! my mind is fully occupied with my life and my goals!
 
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I disagree. Debating or not whether we have control over our lives is one of the first things the great Philosophers did. If Illumination has become synonymous with self-realization and the true self, being regarded as a substantial essence being covered over by social conditioning (to quote Wikipedia). Whether the debate is with oneself or others, I wouldn't go to the Buddha while he is on the verge of illumination and tell him he is only doing mental masturbation. If ignorance is bliss to you that is your perception. By saying ''Go out and do something that brings actual value to people's lives'' is like saying places like this and Reddit don't have their place in the world. I am following my path and I am working on myself, I am not here to seek guidance, I'm here to debate with you guys and learn and become a better person.
I think I reacted as strongly as I did because I spent years doing what you're doing. Wasted years. Here's the thing. There are a few possible scenarios

We have no control over our lives

We have some control over our lives

We have complete control over our lives

All of these options funnel into a central question: what actually makes for a better life?
The answer is: get out and make stuff happen that improves the lives of those around you.

Whether or not we have control becomes irrelevant. Here's how.

Scenario 1: We have no control.
Getting out and doing stuff that improves the lives of those around you was going to happen anyway. It was what we were predestined to do. We were also predestined to be happy as a result of the work we did

Scenario 2: We have some control
Getting out and doing stuff...was our inclination. Though, we could have chosen to be lazy, following our predetermined path was easier. Because we chose that path we end up happy as a result (and so do countless others)

Scenario 3: We have complete control
Getting out and doing stuff...was our choice. Because we chose that path, we end up happy as a result, and so do countless others.

In each scenario, the common theme is GET OUT AND DO STUFF THAT BENEFITS OTHER PEOPLE. In the end, who really cares if we're just robots acting out a script prepared for us by society?

I can also guarantee you, though, that if you don't get out and do good for people, you'll lead a miserable life.

I tend to think that we have only some control. BUT ... as we exert force against the things that control us, those things start dropping away...but ... only if we go out and do stuff...
 

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"we spend the first half of our lives TOO YOUNG, and the second half of our lives TOO OLD"
a certain "call to action" needs to happen for old belief systems to not only be challenged but broken.
 

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I'm 18 years old and I before I knew about the Fastlane I was living a Sidewalker's life with a Slow Laner's mindset. It's the way I knew, it's the only way anybody had told me to go. Unfortunately, it's the way society tells all young people to go. I think society has tainted our (us youngins) definition of responsibility. I've noticed many other people like me, my friends, my peers in school, we define responsibility as having a career, paying bills, and having a mortgage. Society has taught us to believe that true responsibility was to wait until we were older and more "educated". When we're young, people doubt our abilities and tell us we're not "mature" enough to "understand" and eventually we let them convince us. And we wait for responsibility. We wait for life to come to us. Just like everyone else. We wait for our designated, predestined time to shine. It's time for society to stop suppressing all the different meanings of responsibility. Let us define our responsibility, and support it.

awwwww u figured it out 4 years before me! :p
good job!
 

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Everyone thinks they have control until they realize they were being fooled. You didn't bring yourself into this world. You don't control when or how you will die. Why would you believe that you always have control over your life?
You don't have control over society, you're correct. But once you "wake up" you have control over your reaction to the repeated attempts at brainwashing.

Sure, you can't control the "feelthebern" clowns, but you can ignore them.

You can't control when you die? Sure you can. You can jump out into traffic, that's exerting control. Or you can do everything you can to mitigate known risks of premature death (obesity, etc.) and hope for the best.

Why are you so concerned with society? why all the angst over it?
 
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Nice post, however don't mistake me for someone who is trying to change society for I too pretend that none of that shit bothers me.

buddy, if you were truly working on your fastlane, ur brain won't have room to be bothered.
 

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I understand. Also when I speak of society I'm really talking about general influence spread over the media, word of mouth (people repeat even the stupid shit that they hear unfortunately).

What movies do people go see? The ones that are at the box office.
What songs do people listen to? The ones that play on the radio over and over and over.
What form of art do people succomb to? Absurdity, memes, gifs, porn parodies

Eventually, no matter how deep we put our head in the sand. At one point we are subject to the influence of movies, music, art, culture, religion, institutions (nobel prize, harvard, United Nations top comittee, facebook). The rest of the influence comes from the corporations.


Society (goverment, parents, one global consciousness) creates a slow inception of the idea that you must X... and then Y but God forbid don't do Z, ever
Movies, music, art, culture, religion, institutions ---> Nourish the idea

When you come to make a decision. You believe that you have enough information to make a valid choice and not biased one. But all that "information" is not information anymore, it's poison that tastes like gummy bears.

For example:

Society: Eat meat regularly, meat contains protein it's good for you
Society: Proteins are good for you, it's proven by science
Society: Meat can give you cancer
Society: Take heavy radiation to kill cancer
Society: No, Samir Chachoua says that cancer and aids can be killed with alternative treatment to radiation
And then media, corporations, goverment spread the propaganda to the general public (society): This is madness, cancer and aids can only be cured through FDA medicine/treatment (i.e shit that WE declare legal)
Society: Ok but when is game of thrones back on. The Steelers got robbed!! Wtf Myley Cyrus!! That's outrageous.. society is brainwashing us.. Hey halooween, hurrray!!

lol i see u pretty mad bro, bad for your blood pressure man. Just gotta keep your head down and get shit done thats it.
 
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I understand. Also when I speak of society I'm really talking about general influence spread over the media, word of mouth (people repeat even the stupid shit that they hear unfortunately).

What movies do people go see? The ones that are at the box office.
What songs do people listen to? The ones that play on the radio over and over and over.
What form of art do people succomb to? Absurdity, memes, gifs, porn parodies

Eventually, no matter how deep we put our head in the sand. At one point we are subject to the influence of movies, music, art, culture, religion, institutions (nobel prize, harvard, United Nations top comittee, facebook). The rest of the influence comes from the corporations.


Society (goverment, parents, one global consciousness) creates a slow inception of the idea that you must X... and then Y but God forbid don't do Z, ever
Movies, music, art, culture, religion, institutions ---> Nourish the idea

When you come to make a decision. You believe that you have enough information to make a valid choice and not biased one. But all that "information" is not information anymore, it's poison that tastes like gummy bears.

For example:

Society: Eat meat regularly, meat contains protein it's good for you
Society: Proteins are good for you, it's proven by science
Society: Meat can give you cancer
Society: Take heavy radiation to kill cancer
Society: No, Samir Chachoua says that cancer and aids can be killed with alternative treatment to radiation
And then media, corporations, goverment spread the propaganda to the general public (society): This is madness, cancer and aids can only be cured through FDA medicine/treatment (i.e shit that WE declare legal)
Society: Ok but when is game of thrones back on. The Steelers got robbed!! Wtf Myley Cyrus!! That's outrageous.. society is brainwashing us.. Hey halooween, hurrray!!


You are correct to be woken up and pissed. It's no sign of wellness to be acclimated to a sick society. That's what we have but more and more people awaken each day thanks in great part to all the disinfo of big media, corpse-arations, and Bankster elite. We control our decisions but even then, there is research on how significant subconscious/unconsious programming is destroying free will and simple things in society as "asking the right questions" for the progression of the species, the family, etc..doesn't really happen anymore. People are on the wheel too busy:)

There has been tons of monetary and technological development over the years but little in the corresponding Moral/Spiritual development. That is a major issue and I think your anger resonates around this. Most people worship money if they don't worship god.

Real spiritual development also focuses on reality and finding real objective truth where we can....and not repeating the same dam mistakes over and over as a culture. Elements of the new age/pop culture movement are there to continually insert moral relativity into people so that degradation of a society occurs, so that Good Consumers are continually created. Many fastlaners will love this sorry to say because it ensure they are the producer to prey upon them continually.

There seems to be little money in truth that leads to worldwide change/action, but lots of money in manipulation/marketing, social engineering, pulling the strings on people with desired products, using Money as the tool for such leverage, etc

so that's why in the end you have to focus on yourself and your dreams/goals and hopefully be in alignment with your truth
 

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Because I am tired to be told to worship homosexuals and transgenders, tired of all the idiotic myths and misconceptions about life and purpose, I am sick and tired of the pretentious and greedy being glorified and voluntary simplicity being ridiculed. I don't F*cking want an app for everything and by the way stop looking at your F*cking cellphone for one second and look at me like I am a human being and not a pop-up on your screen. Stop saying the word hashtag. Stop F*cking improving and updating everything. My message to society is can we just F*cking hit pause for like 2 decades and enjoy what we have? Nooooooooo, we gotta produce, produce, hire, fire, go go go. The spreadsheets, call support! Kim Kardashian is pregnant? Why the F*ck would I care, isn't everyone famous today anyways?

You are on the right track, don't stop searching for the truth. Read about history and philosophy and watch how deep the rabbit hole goes. Don't let this alienate you from your people into total individualism and the search for the next high, the next "awesome experience".

Find people who share your values and create a situation for yourself where the system can't F*ck you over for living your values with inegrity. Entrepreneurship seems like a good fit, I guess :)

Of course you can't change society, you can't simply will it with brute force. But the pendulum always swings back and when this happens, your opinion will count.
 
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Has society ever been well? It still seems to work fine for the average person. If you found your way here that means you don't fit in society the way average people do. Your choice is to be upset and grow angry as you watch your peers obediently and somewhat contently blend into society , or you can choose to be happy knowing that there is better way to live your own life, and work towards that.

We all have control, we all make choices. both good and bad ones. As we age, I hope that we learn to reduce the number of bad choices we make.

My advice is that you go make one good choice today.

that's the point of some of the anger here of the philosophers. If you are given RED PILL AND BLUE PILL as options, and you freely decide RED over Blue, is that a real choice? It's a decision. We have power to decide and evaluate. Pull back the curtain even wider and you see what you thought was real free-will choice was pre-programmed options overlayed onto and within the same system( with similiar results) as before

in 2016 as it was in 1916 and 1716 or 1016, your choices are still within the same board game for the most part.
 

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