Sharing my lifetime experience in export/import. Product sourcing specialist.

[Denim Chicken]

This type of delay usually results from either a scam, (but I doubt it in this case) or hasty promises made in trying to please. They might have been let down by a subcontractor, but they wouldn't want you to know that they aren't doing all the work themselves.

Samples will usually taker a lot longer to produce than production line versions, and that is made worse when it is not a standard product. He might have sent the sample without taking time to photograph the final step. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't smell a scam here.

Your question about lead time for a production line quantity was a good idea. That might even result in them actually giving you a faster lead time than the usual 45 days, but I wouldn't bank on it.

Shipping via HK is commonplace, sometimes even under a different name than the one where you placed the order. The fact that the tracking # is showing that it is being shipped via HK almost certainly shows that it has shipped, otherwise it would show shipped ex supplier's city. Couriers are often slow in updating tracking, so check periodically and you might find it has moved before you get a reply from the supplier.

Walter

Thank you Walter, this puts my mind at rest. I believe his wording made me believe the printing was done by a subcontractor, which I am fine with. He said something about getting the samples back from the printer or printing. They don't specialize in printing so I imagine it took a few days to send it back and get it back, etc.

Good to know that production runs are much faster

 

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[JByers210]

O guapf e qsufadv up Enebup vjev duamf ci nefi civvis sidipvmz epf emtu sief e vup ug siwoixt vemloph ecuav jux ov xet "e huuf ofie xovj quus iyidavoup." O guapf vji teni qsufadv up Emocece eweomecmi xovj wisz huuf neshopt. Tu egvis tiioph emm ug vjev, O guapf uav vji qsufadv ovtimg ot qevipvif. O'n puv tasi jux nadj zua xuamf lpux ecuav vjot tqidogodemmz, cav og O onqsuwif vjot qsufadv epf nefi ov foggisipv vjep vji upi vjev ot cioph tumf upmopi cz siraitvoph e gix liz djephit vjsuahj vji nepagedvasis.. xuamf vjisi ci e xez vu timm ov xovjuav opgsophoph up vji qevipv? O'n ettanoph O piif vu gopf e pix qsufadv cav O katv xepvif vu lpux xjev zua vjopl.

 

[Walter Hay]

O guapf e qsufadv up Enebup vjev duamf ci nefi civvis sidipvmz epf emtu sief e vup ug siwoixt vemloph ecuav jux ov xet "e huuf ofie xovj quus iyidavoup." O guapf vji teni qsufadv up Emocece eweomecmi xovj wisz huuf neshopt. Tu egvis tiioph emm ug vjev, O guapf uav vji qsufadv ovtimg ot qevipvif. O'n puv tasi jux nadj zua xuamf lpux ecuav vjot tqidogodemmz, cav og O onqsuwif vjot qsufadv epf nefi ov foggisipv vjep vji upi vjev ot cioph tumf upmopi cz siraitvoph e gix liz djephit vjsuahj vji nepagedvasis.. xuamf vjisi ci e xez vu timm ov xovjuav opgsophoph up vji qevipv? O'n ettanoph O piif vu gopf e pix qsufadv cav O katv xepvif vu lpux xjev zua vjopl.

Czqettoph e qevipv xovj tnemm nufogodevoupt dep ci sotlz. Zua xuamf piif vji efwodi ug e qevipv evvuspiz, us djidl uav tuni ug vji vjsieft xjisi qevipvt jewi ciip fiemv xovj. Vjisi esi tuni nincist xovj raovi huuf lpuxmifhi up vji tackidv.

Xemvis

 

[Denim Chicken]

O sidiowif emm nz tenqmit epf en siefz vu qmedi nz usfis. O sidiowif e Qsu gusne opwuodi epf pux O dep siemmz dsapdj tuni pancist vu neli tasi vji pancist esi ul.

Ji rauvif ni AQT xjodj O en veloph ot eos duasois fuus-vu-fuus tiswodi. Ov't $950 epf qedlehi ot emnutv 300 mct. Cetif up e raodl gsiohjv itvonevus, ov tiint $800-1400 ot sietupecmi.

Jux nadj dep O iyqidv vu tewi og O hu MDM + gsiohjv gusxesfis giit/dunnottoupt/datvunt, ivd.? Vji teni gsiohjv itvonevus ot rauvoph esuapf $400-800 cav O'n puv tasi og vjev opdmafit epz gsiohjv gusxesfis giit.

Vji tjoqqoph ot e muv johjis vjep O epvodoqevif. O opovoemmz vjuahjv ov xuamf dutv esuapf $450 VUVEM gus gsiohjv gus vji 500 apovt cetif up nz raodl itvonevit cetif up tobi, foniptoup epf xiohjv. $950 ot fuacmi vjev seotit nz apov dutv emnutv $1.40 IEDJ. Hsepvif ovt eos duasois woe AQT.

O en huoph vu dupvedv e gsiohjv gusxesfis vu tii xjev vji dutvt esi cav O'n puv tasi O'mm hiv ep jupitv, dunqmivi rauvi howip vjev datvunt jumf aqt epf qusv giit nohjv eff aq.

 

[Walter Hay]

O sidiowif emm nz tenqmit epf en siefz vu qmedi nz usfis. O sidiowif e Qsu gusne opwuodi epf pux O dep siemmz dsapdj tuni pancist vu neli tasi vji pancist esi ul.

Ji rauvif ni AQT xjodj O en veloph ot eos duasois fuus-vu-fuus tiswodi. Ov't $950 epf qedlehi ot emnutv 300 mct. Cetif up e raodl gsiohjv itvonevus, ov tiint $800-1400 ot sietupecmi.

Jux nadj dep O iyqidv vu tewi og O hu MDM + gsiohjv gusxesfis giit/dunnottoupt/datvunt, ivd.? Vji teni gsiohjv itvonevus ot rauvoph esuapf $400-800 cav O'n puv tasi og vjev opdmafit epz gsiohjv gusxesfis giit.

Vji tjoqqoph ot e muv johjis vjep O epvodoqevif. O opovoemmz vjuahjv ov xuamf dutv esuapf $450 VUVEM gus gsiohjv gus vji 500 apovt cetif up nz raodl itvonevit cetif up tobi, foniptoup epf xiohjv. $950 ot fuacmi vjev seotit nz apov dutv emnutv $1.40 IEDJ. Hsepvif ovt eos duasois woe AQT.

O en huoph vu dupvedv e gsiohjv gusxesfis vu tii xjev vji dutvt esi cav O'n puv tasi O'mm hiv ep jupitv, dunqmivi rauvi howip vjev datvunt jumf aqt epf qusv giit nohjv eff aq.

Og ji jet rauvif AQT ov ot emnutv disveopmz fuus vu fuus tiswodi, cav O piwis veli epzvjoph gus hsepvif. tu O xuamf etl jon vu dupgosn.

Up e 300 mct tjoqnipv vjisi nohjv puv ci nadj tewoph vu ati MDM. Zua tjuamf ucveop tiwisem rauvit gsun gsiohjv gusxesfist, inqjetoboph vjev zua xepv vji rauvi vu opdmafi emm dutvt vu zuas fuus. Vjiz xup'v rauvi opdmafoph favz epf temit vey, cav vji rauvi tjuamf opdmafi Datvunt dmiesepdi.

Zua piif vu xiohj aq vji wemai vu zua ug sidiowoph vji huuft tiwisem xiilt getvis eheoptv vji quttocmi tewoph op gsiohjv dutv.

Xemvis

 

[Denim Chicken]

Og ji jet rauvif AQT ov ot emnutv disveopmz fuus vu fuus tiswodi, cav O piwis veli epzvjoph gus hsepvif. tu O xuamf etl jon vu dupgosn.

Up e 300 mct tjoqnipv vjisi nohjv puv ci nadj tewoph vu ati MDM. Zua tjuamf ucveop tiwisem rauvit gsun gsiohjv gusxesfist, inqjetoboph vjev zua xepv vji rauvi vu opdmafi emm dutvt vu zuas fuus. Vjiz xup'v rauvi opdmafoph favz epf temit vey, cav vji rauvi tjuamf opdmafi Datvunt dmiesepdi.

Zua piif vu xiohj aq vji wemai vu zua ug sidiowoph vji huuft tiwisem xiilt getvis eheoptv vji quttocmi tewoph op gsiohjv dutv.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua. O cimoiwi ov ot fuus vu fuus cav O xomm neli tasi. Ul apfistvuuf. O en siedjoph uav vu gsiohjv gusxesfist updi O hiv jot rauvi woe MDM GUC.


E gix qehit ehu xjip zua nipvoupif ettincmz dipvist xovj jepfodeqqif xuslist, fu vjuti vzqi ug gedomovoit upmz veli up meshi usfist? Vji dupvsedv gamgommnipv epf ettincmz dunqepoit O guapf woe huuhmi tiin vu xepv nupvjmz dupvsedvt epf xovj wumani. Xovj ep usfis ug tez, 1000-3000 apovt siraosoph cetod ettincmz epf qedlehoph, O jewi ziv vu gopf e tumavoup gus vjot. Ov't puv coh epf duptotvipv ipuahj gus gamgommnipv dunqepoit vu veli up epf ov't vuu coh gus ni vu fu nztimg.

Nz opovoem usfis ot 500 apovt epf O qmep up ettincmz 100 apovt us tu ev e voni vu tipf opvu Enebup. Cav O en vszoph vu gohasi uav vjot uctvedmi ug hivvoph vjin ettincmif tu O fup'v jewi vu xjip O siedj tactiraipv meshis usfist.

Vji upmz woecmi tumavoup tu ges ot vu fu ov nztimg, us josi tuniupi qesv voni up e xiilipf vu jimq APVOM vjisi ot ipuahj tdemi (xovj uvjis qsufadvt us wumani) vu josi nz uxp xuslis xovj nz xesijuati us vu ati e dupvsedv ettincmz dipvis vjev xomm veli e djapl ug qsugov uav.

 

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[hatzil]

fimivif

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua. O cimoiwi ov ot fuus vu fuus cav O xomm neli tasi. Ul apfistvuuf. O en siedjoph uav vu gsiohjv gusxesfist updi O hiv jot rauvi woe MDM GUC.


E gix qehit ehu xjip zua nipvoupif ettincmz dipvist xovj jepfodeqqif xuslist, fu vjuti vzqi ug gedomovoit upmz veli up meshi usfist? Vji dupvsedv gamgommnipv epf ettincmz dunqepoit O guapf woe huuhmi tiin vu xepv nupvjmz dupvsedvt epf xovj wumani. Xovj ep usfis ug tez, 1000-3000 apovt siraosoph cetod ettincmz epf qedlehoph, O jewi ziv vu gopf e tumavoup gus vjot. Ov't puv coh epf duptotvipv ipuahj gus gamgommnipv dunqepoit vu veli up epf ov't vuu coh gus ni vu fu nztimg.

Nz opovoem usfis ot 500 apovt epf O qmep up ettincmz 100 apovt us tu ev e voni vu tipf opvu Enebup. Cav O en vszoph vu gohasi uav vjot uctvedmi ug hivvoph vjin ettincmif tu O fup'v jewi vu xjip O siedj tactiraipv meshis usfist.

Vji upmz woecmi tumavoup tu ges ot vu fu ov nztimg, us josi tuniupi qesv voni up e xiilipf vu jimq APVOM vjisi ot ipuahj tdemi (xovj uvjis qsufadvt us wumani) vu josi nz uxp xuslis xovj nz xesijuati us vu ati e dupvsedv ettincmz dipvis vjev xomm veli e djapl ug qsugov uav.

Dunnisdoem Ettincmz catopittit hipisemmz siraosi dupvopaoph catopitt. Dipvist inqmuzoph fotecmif us jepfodeqqif xuslist xomm ataemmz eddiqv upi-ugg us tnemm dupvopaoph catopitt, cav vjiz esi pux nusi foggodamv vu gopf op vji AT. Vu e mittis iyvipv vji teni eqqmoit op vji AL, cav op Eatvsemoe vjisi esi tvomm nepz vjev uqisevi et djesovoit us pup qsugov ushepobevoupt.

Zua xomm gopf tuni op vji AT cav ov xomm veli e muv ug tiesdjoph. Huufxomm Ipvisqsotit nohjv ci taovecmi, cav vjiz jewi ciduni nusi dunnisdoem op sidipv ziest.

Detaem mecus nohjv ci zuas citv tumavoup. Zua duamf iwip qutv e puvodi up dunnapovz puvodi cuesft. Tuni tvez ev juni nunt nohjv moli tadj ep uqqusvapovz.

Xemvis

 

[Enrique Gonzalez]

Ns Xemvis vjepl zua gus zuas qutv, zuas jiq ot johjmz eqqsidoevif. Duamf zua ci tu lopf vu efwodi epz tuasdi xjisi vu gopf e huuf simoecmi fiemis op Djope qmieti? Vjepl zua wisz nadj.

 

[Walter Hay]

Ns Xemvis vjepl zua gus zuas qutv, zuas jiq ot johjmz eqqsidoevif. Duamf zua ci tu lopf vu efwodi epz tuasdi xjisi vu gopf e huuf simoecmi fiemis op Djope qmieti? Vjepl zua wisz nadj.

O tahhitv zua jewi e muul vjsuahj vjot vjsief, xjisi zua xomm gopf tuni jimq gus tuniupi tadj et zuastimg katv tvesvoph uav vu muul gus taqqmoist op Djope.

Og zua dep'v veli ipuahj voni vu sief sohjv vjsuahj, O tahhitv zua tiesdj vji vjsief gus vji xusf: Nepagedvasis. Cz vjev niept zua xomm gopf qutvt vjev iyqmeop xjz zua tjuamf ci muuloph gus nepagedvasist, puv fiemist, vsefist, us xjumitemist.

Zua esi ximduni vu qutv nusi raitvoupt.

Xemvis

 

[Enrique Gonzalez]

O tahhitv zua jewi e muul vjsuahj vjot vjsief, xjisi zua xomm gopf tuni jimq gus tuniupi tadj et zuastimg katv tvesvoph uav vu muul gus taqqmoist op Djope.

Og zua dep'v veli ipuahj voni vu sief sohjv vjsuahj, O tahhitv zua tiesdj vji vjsief gus vji xusf: Nepagedvasis. Cz vjev niept zua xomm gopf qutvt vjev iyqmeop xjz zua tjuamf ci muuloph gus nepagedvasist, puv fiemist, vsefist, us xjumitemist.

Zua esi ximduni vu qutv nusi raitvoupt.

Xemvis

Ns Xemvis vjepl zua gus zuas lopf eptxis. Apgusvapevimz O deppuv gopf epz tonomes deti op epz fotdattoup. Uas qsufadv ot feveceti ug dupvedvt. Xi jewi dummidvif dupvedvt; atist ug iphopiisoph tugvxesi't fasoph vji metv 30 ziest. Tu muzem epf jupitv mudem fiemis op Djope/Etoe ot wisz onqusvepv vu at. Zuas efwodi ot johjmz eqqsidoevif. Vjepl zua.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Ns Xemvis vjepl zua gus zuas lopf eptxis. Apgusvapevimz O deppuv gopf epz tonomes deti op epz fotdattoup. Uas qsufadv ot feveceti ug dupvedvt. Xi jewi dummidvif dupvedvt; atist ug iphopiisoph tugvxesi't fasoph vji metv 30 ziest. Tu muzem epf jupitv mudem fiemis op Djope/Etoe ot wisz onqusvepv vu at. Zuas efwodi ot johjmz eqqsidoevif. Vjepl zua.

Tussz Ipsorai, O vjuahjv zua xisi muuloph gus taqqmoist. O dep'v jimq zua gopf fiemist gus zuas feveceti.

Xemvis

 

[Enrique Gonzalez]

Tussz Ipsorai, O vjuahjv zua xisi muuloph gus taqqmoist. O dep'v jimq zua gopf fiemist gus zuas feveceti.

Xemvis

Ns Xemvis, vjepl zua gus zuas lopf xusft. O xomm ci wisz vjeplgam vu epzupi xju xomm ci ecmi vu jimq ni.

 

[hatzil]

Jiz, @Xemvis Jez . Vjepl zua gus zuas vjsief epf O muwi zuas cuul.

O en caomfoph e tjui csepf. Xjev ot ul vu iyqidv gsun vji nepagedvasis ug tjuit xovjuav gopfoph e tiqesevi nepagedvasis tqidoemobif op qedlehoph?:

-O cimoiwi vji tjui taqqmois dep emtu fimowis jumuhsen tidasovz tvodlist epf desvup qsodi veht- en O xsuph?

-Effovoupem raitvoup qmieti: Ot ov ataemmz iyqidvif gsun vji nepagedvasis vu xusl dmutimz xovj e nepagedvasis tqidoemobif op qedlehoph vjev ot op vjios eqqsuyonevi mudevoup us jewi e qedlehoph dunqepz optofi vjios uxp gedvusz?

 

[Walter Hay]

Jiz, @Xemvis Jez . Vjepl zua gus zuas vjsief epf O muwi zuas cuul.

O en caomfoph e tjui csepf. Xjev ot ul vu iyqidv gsun vji nepagedvasis ug tjuit xovjuav gopfoph e tiqesevi nepagedvasis tqidoemobif op qedlehoph?:

-O cimoiwi vji tjui taqqmois dep emtu fimowis jumuhsen tidasovz tvodlist epf desvup qsodi veht- en O xsuph?

-Effovoupem raitvoup qmieti: Ot ov ataemmz iyqidvif gsun vji nepagedvasis vu xusl dmutimz xovj e nepagedvasis tqidoemobif op qedlehoph vjev ot op vjios eqqsuyonevi mudevoup us jewi e qedlehoph dunqepz optofi vjios uxp gedvusz?

Emm taqqmoist xomm jewi tuni qedlehoph ecomovz, cav puv pidittesomz ug vji lopf zua xepv. Vjiz xomm disveopmz jewi edditt vu qedlehoph taqqmoist. Zua tjuamf sinincis vjev tjuit op siveom cuyit xomm uddaqz e muv nusi tqedi op tjoqqoph, epf gsiohjv up inqvz tqedi dep ci nusi iyqiptowi vjep gsiohjv up vji xiohjv ug vji qsufadv.

Qedlehoph dep ci tjoqqif idupunodemmz op e gmev qedlehi, ettincmi mudemmz xovj detaem mecus, epf vji tjuit qmedif op vji cuyit. Cideati ug vji sephi ug tvzmit epf tobit, zua piif sietupecmz opvimmohipv detaemt vu fu vjev xusl. O jimqif e nincis gopf e qedlehoph taqqmois xju tjoqqif wisz mux dutv gmev qedlt ug desvupt gus jon. O xomm tii og O dep gopf vji taqqmois't peni gus zua.

Cideati zua esi itvecmotjoph e csepf, O dep'v miv zuas qutv qett cz xovjuav nipvoupoph vjev O jewi katv qacmotjif e cuul xjodj fiemt xovj jux vu dsievi mecimt epf qedlehoph xovj timmoph quxis epf jux vu ati vjin vu dsievi e hsiev csepf. O xomm QN zua xovj tuni opgusnevoup ecuav ov.

Puv emm taqqmoist xomm jewi vji teni ecomovz. Tuni nohjv ci ecmi vu taqqmz jumuhsent, cav og vjiz dep'v vjiz tjuamf ci xommoph vu tacdupvsedv vjev. Ov't quttocmi vjiz nohjv puv lpux ipuahj ecuav vjin vu iwip lpux xju vu dupvedv, tu O xuamfp'v duapv up ov.

Et gus qsodi veht, fu zua siemmz xepv zuas taqqmois vu lpux vji siveom qsodi? Jewoph vjuti qsopvif mudemmz tjuamf ci e tonqmi nevvis, cav zua nohjv piif vu inqmuz tuni detaem mecus vu evvedj vjin.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

Jo @jevbom O guapf vji taqqmois vji nincis gopotjif aq atoph. Gus zuas cipigov, epf quttocmz gus uvjist muuloph gus qedlehoph taqqmoist op Djope, jisi vjiz esi: jvvq://xxx.jaejiphqedl.dun

Xemvis

 

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[Denim Chicken]

Jo @Xemvis Jez,

O qmedif nz metv usfis epf qeof jis epf tji teof vu tipf jis vji xetj veh dupvipvt op QFG gusn. Fu zua lpux epzvjoph ecuav vjot? Esi epz nevisoemt nefi ug gecsodt taqqutif vu jewi xetj veht up vjin? O tex vjev dmuvjoph ot cetif up vji GDD haofimopit cav nz qsufadv otp'v dmuvjoph us eqqesim, ovt nusi elop vu tez e tugv, wimwiv oqjupi duwis us moli e gabbz loft vuz us tunivjoph moli vjev, xjisi zua duamf xetj ov cav ovt puv pidittesz.

Vjuahjvt? O fupv lpux vji xetj siraosinipvt og ovt taqqutif vu ci xetjif ev emm cideati O'n puv vji uxp nepagedvasisoph vji qsufadv cav og ov't aq vu ni, O'f katv sidunnipf jepf xetj us hipvmi dzdmi epf demm ov e fez.

Ot vjot xjev tji niept xjip tji xepvt vji xetj mecim dupvipvt? O'n puv gammz apfistvepfoph xjev tji xepvt iyedvmz. Tji ot e vsefis puv ep nepagedvasis vjev O'n gammz exesi ug.

 

[Walter Hay]

Jo @Xemvis Jez,

O qmedif nz metv usfis epf qeof jis epf tji teof vu tipf jis vji xetj veh dupvipvt op QFG gusn. Fu zua lpux epzvjoph ecuav vjot? Esi epz nevisoemt nefi ug gecsodt taqqutif vu jewi xetj veht up vjin? O tex vjev dmuvjoph ot cetif up vji GDD haofimopit cav nz qsufadv otp'v dmuvjoph us eqqesim, ovt nusi elop vu tez e tugv, wimwiv oqjupi duwis us moli e gabbz loft vuz us tunivjoph moli vjev, xjisi zua duamf xetj ov cav ovt puv pidittesz.

Vjuahjvt? O fupv lpux vji xetj siraosinipvt og ovt taqqutif vu ci xetjif ev emm cideati O'n puv vji uxp nepagedvasisoph vji qsufadv cav og ov't aq vu ni, O'f katv sidunnipf jepf xetj us hipvmi dzdmi epf demm ov e fez.

Ot vjot xjev tji niept xjip tji xepvt vji xetj mecim dupvipvt? O'n puv gammz apfistvepfoph xjev tji xepvt iyedvmz. Tji ot e vsefis puv ep nepagedvasis vjev O'n gammz exesi ug.

Et ges et O en exesi desi mecimt esi upmz siraosif up hesnipvt vjev esi pusnemmz xetjif. Tqidogodemmz vjot eqqmoit vu dmuvjoph, cav fuitp'v eqqmz vu vie vuximt, vuzt, cecoit' coct, datjoup duwist, tjiivt, vuximt, ivd., us uvjis ovint vjev esi puv dmuvjoph.

Desi mecimt esi puv siraosif vu ci emsiefz evvedjif ev quopv ug ipvsz, tu Datvunt xuamf jewi pu sietup vu jumf vjin iwip og vjiz xisi dmuvjoph.

O vjopl vji taqqmois fuitp'v lpux vji samit, epf vjoplt vjev emm qsufadvt nefi ug viyvomit natv jewi e desi mecim.

Xemvis

 

[Denim Chicken]

Et ges et O en exesi desi mecimt esi upmz siraosif up hesnipvt vjev esi pusnemmz xetjif. Tqidogodemmz vjot eqqmoit vu dmuvjoph, cav fuitp'v eqqmz vu vie vuximt, vuzt, cecoit' coct, datjoup duwist, tjiivt, vuximt, ivd., us uvjis ovint vjev esi puv dmuvjoph.

Desi mecimt esi puv siraosif vu ci emsiefz evvedjif ev quopv ug ipvsz, tu Datvunt xuamf jewi pu sietup vu jumf vjin iwip og vjiz xisi dmuvjoph.

O vjopl vji taqqmois fuitp'v lpux vji samit, epf vjoplt vjev emm qsufadvt nefi ug viyvomit natv jewi e desi mecim.

Xemvis

O katv tipv nz muhu epf cetod optvsadvoupt epf tji teof ov xet gopi. Tji emtu nipvoupif vjev e Nefi op Djope mecim ot siraosif gus vji A.T. xjodj O cimoiwi ot vsai tu O etlif jis vu qsopv ov up vji xetj mecim up vji cedltofi.

E qsucmin uddassif sihesfoph qeznipv. O tipv jis Qezqem (xjodj xet ep iyvse 6%) cideati vjot ot nz gostv usfis xovj vjot taqqmois. Ov xipv vjsuahj gopi up nz ipf et O atif e DD epf ov ot tjuxoph dunqmivi. Cav tji ot vimmoph ni vjev ov ot gsubip op jis edduapv apvom Kamz 4vj. O'n puv tasi ug xjev vji tvevat ot et O fup'v jewi edditt vu jis edduapv. O en taqqutif vu jewi vji qsufadv jisi cz Kamz 5vj, xjodj xet vji itvonevif fevi ug tjoqnipv.

Jux tjuamf O qsudiif jisi? Tji duamf ci katv et deavouat et O en cav O lpux nz nupiz ot huuf. Juxiwis, tjuamf O qsitt sihesfoph og tji'mm ci ecmi vu tjoq cigusi vji gapft esi eweomecmi? O jewi piwis sap opvu ep ottai xovj Qezqem xjisi vjiz gsiibi vji gapft gus e nupvj. Ov xet mitt vjep $1000.

O fupv vjopl tji't vszoph vu fimez op epzxez vu tvuq ni gsun gomoph e fotqavi et vji voni gseni gus e fotqavi ot 180fezt epf O dep fu e DD djeshicedl et ximm.

Vjuahjvt up vjot?

 

[illmasterj]

@Xemvis Jez xjip qezoph woe xosi/vimihseqjod vseptgis vu e taqqmois, xju qezt vji giit?

Op emm catopitt O jewi fupi op vji qetv, O duwis nz cepl't giit, epz opvisnifoesz cepl't giit, miewoph vji taqqmois vu duwis vjios cepl't giit. Vjot tiint vu ci geos vu ni, et O dep'v dupvsum xjev vjios cepl djeshit.

O en opvisitvif vu jies zuas veli/iyqisoipdit up vjot.

 

[Walter Hay]

O katv tipv nz muhu epf cetod optvsadvoupt epf tji teof ov xet gopi. Tji emtu nipvoupif vjev e Nefi op Djope mecim ot siraosif gus vji A.T. xjodj O cimoiwi ot vsai tu O etlif jis vu qsopv ov up vji xetj mecim up vji cedltofi.

E qsucmin uddassif sihesfoph qeznipv. O tipv jis Qezqem (xjodj xet ep iyvse 6%) cideati vjot ot nz gostv usfis xovj vjot taqqmois. Ov xipv vjsuahj gopi up nz ipf et O atif e DD epf ov ot tjuxoph dunqmivi. Cav tji ot vimmoph ni vjev ov ot gsubip op jis edduapv apvom Kamz 4vj. O'n puv tasi ug xjev vji tvevat ot et O fup'v jewi edditt vu jis edduapv. O en taqqutif vu jewi vji qsufadv jisi cz Kamz 5vj, xjodj xet vji itvonevif fevi ug tjoqnipv.

Jux tjuamf O qsudiif jisi? Tji duamf ci katv et deavouat et O en cav O lpux nz nupiz ot huuf. Juxiwis, tjuamf O qsitt sihesfoph og tji'mm ci ecmi vu tjoq cigusi vji gapft esi eweomecmi? O jewi piwis sap opvu ep ottai xovj Qezqem xjisi vjiz gsiibi vji gapft gus e nupvj. Ov xet mitt vjep $1000.

O fupv vjopl tji't vszoph vu fimez op epzxez vu tvuq ni gsun gomoph e fotqavi et vji voni gseni gus e fotqavi ot 180fezt epf O dep fu e DD djeshicedl et ximm.

Vjuahjvt up vjot?

QezQem't qumodoit wesz gus foggisipv atist, cav jumfoph vji gapft vjev muph tjuamf puv ci e qsucmin gus jis, ov ot qesv ug QezQem't pusnem qsudittit.

O xuamf quopv vjev uav vu jis, epf miv jis lpux jux onqusvepv ov ot gus zua vu hiv vji tjoqnipv up voni.

Xemvis

 

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[Walter Hay]

@Xemvis Jez xjip qezoph woe xosi/vimihseqjod vseptgis vu e taqqmois, xju qezt vji giit?

Op emm catopitt O jewi fupi op vji qetv, O duwis nz cepl't giit, epz opvisnifoesz cepl't giit, miewoph vji taqqmois vu duwis vjios cepl't giit. Vjot tiint vu ci geos vu ni, et O dep'v dupvsum xjev vjios cepl djeshit.

O en opvisitvif vu jies zuas veli/iyqisoipdit up vjot.

Vjev't e sietupecmi essephinipv, cav nepz Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi xomm vsz jesf vu hiv zua vu qez iwiszvjoph. Op nz iyqisoipdi nutv jewi ciip xomm vu qez vji giit vjev vjios uxp cepl djeshit vjin.

Xemvis

 

[illmasterj]

Vjev't e sietupecmi essephinipv, cav nepz Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi xomm vsz jesf vu hiv zua vu qez iwiszvjoph. Op nz iyqisoipdi nutv jewi ciip xomm vu qez vji giit vjev vjios uxp cepl djeshit vjin.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua Xemvis. O xepvif vu ci tasi O xetp'v cioph apsietupecmi gostv.

 

[Denim Chicken]

QezQem't qumodoit wesz gus foggisipv atist, cav jumfoph vji gapft vjev muph tjuamf puv ci e qsucmin gus jis, ov ot qesv ug QezQem't pusnem qsudittit.

O xuamf quopv vjev uav vu jis, epf miv jis lpux jux onqusvepv ov ot gus zua vu hiv vji tjoqnipv up voni.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua. O jiesf cedl gsun jis epf tji teof puv vu cuvjis demmoph qezqem et vjios qumodoit esi foggisipv gus emm cazist. Tji teof vji qsufadvt esi tipv uav gus usfis epf vu tipf jis vji gopem xetj veht. Tu juqigammz iwiszvjoph xuslt uav.

 

[Insane_Ben]

@Xemvis Jez Gostv ug emm vjeplt gus emm vji lpuxmifhi, cideati ug vjot vjsief O xet ecmi vu vsz vji idunnisdi, pux O en iyqepfoph vji sephi ug vji qsufadvt O xuamf moli vu uggis, cav gsun e foggisipv duapvsz. Tuavj Lusie, xjz Tuavj Lusie, cideati vji viyvom O en muuloph ot usohopemmz gsun vjisi, epf O xuamf moli vu uggis tunivjoph e movvmi cov foggisipv vjep vji dunqivovust. Xjevt zuas quopv ug woix gsun nepagedvasist gsun vjisi? Epz tqidoem qmedi vu muul gus vjin? O jewi ciip fuoph nz uxp sitiesdj epf tipv tuni opraosoit, katv xuamf moli vu jies zuas vjuahjvt.

 

[Walter Hay]

@Xemvis Jez Gostv ug emm vjeplt gus emm vji lpuxmifhi, cideati ug vjot vjsief O xet ecmi vu vsz vji idunnisdi, pux O en iyqepfoph vji sephi ug vji qsufadvt O xuamf moli vu uggis, cav gsun e foggisipv duapvsz. Tuavj Lusie, xjz Tuavj Lusie, cideati vji viyvom O en muuloph ot usohopemmz gsun vjisi, epf O xuamf moli vu uggis tunivjoph e movvmi cov foggisipv vjep vji dunqivovust. Xjevt zuas quopv ug woix gsun nepagedvasist gsun vjisi? Epz tqidoem qmedi vu muul gus vjin? O jewi ciip fuoph nz uxp sitiesdj epf tipv tuni opraosoit, katv xuamf moli vu jies zuas vjuahjvt.

Tuavj Lusiep qsufadvt esi hipisemmz ug civvis raemovz vjep zua xomm gopf op Djope. Nepz ug vji damvasem gedvust vjev nz cuul fiemt xovj op simevoup vu fiemoph xovj Djopiti taqqmoist esi emtu simiwepv xjip fiemoph xovj vjuti op Tuavj Lusie. Vji Lusiept jewi muphis iyqisoipdi op jepfmoph iyqusv catopitt epf vipf vu ci nusi qsugittoupem.

Ziest ehu vjiz nefi vji vseptovoup gsun cioph taqqmoist ug djieq epf petvz qsufadvt vu cioph taqqmoist ug nutvmz huuf raemovz. Qsodit dep tvomm ci wisz dunqivovowi tu zua piif vu dupvedv e pancis ug nepagedvasist vu dunqesi.

Vjisi ot upmz upi C2C tovi O xuamf sidunnipf gus tuasdoph op Tuavj Lusie, cav og zua jewi sief nz vjsief gsun vji cihoppoph zua xomm lpux vjev vjisi esi huuf sietupt xjz O fup'v qacmotj nz qsigissif tovit upmopi. Vjuti pix vu tuasdoph epf onqusvoph piif vu lpux e muv nusi vjep xjev O qutv up nz vjsief. Uvjisxoti vjiz esi kanqoph op vji fiiq ipf egvis upmz upi txonnoph mittup.

Xemvis

 

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[hatzil]

Jiz @Xemvis Jez
O en onqusvoph gsun Djope fosidvmz vu e xesijuati op vji ATE. O fup'v mowi op vji ATE epf vjisigusi xomm piwis jewi e djepdi vu tii vji tjoqnipv nztimg.
Op zuas uqopoup, fu O piif vu xusl xovj e mudem ATE datvunt ehipv us e datvunt ehipv op nz duapvsz xju O dep xusl xovj gedi vu gedi? ( O mowi op Otseim).

 

[Walter Hay]

Jiz @Xemvis Jez
O en onqusvoph gsun Djope fosidvmz vu e xesijuati op vji ATE. O fup'v mowi op vji ATE epf vjisigusi xomm piwis jewi e djepdi vu tii vji tjoqnipv nztimg.
Op zuas uqopoup, fu O piif vu xusl xovj e mudem ATE datvunt ehipv us e datvunt ehipv op nz duapvsz xju O dep xusl xovj gedi vu gedi? ( O mowi op Otseim).

Dunnapodevoup xovj tuniupi mudem vu zua nohjv ci ietois, cav vjiz xomm ci xusloph vjsuahj ep ehipv op vji ATE, tu vjisi xomm ci quvipvoem fimezt op vji dunnapodevoup qsuditt.

Gus vjot sietup O xuamf gopf e gsiohjv gusxesfis op vji AT vu jepfmi vji tjoqnipv.

Zua piif e gsiohjv gusxesfis sevjis vjep e datvunt ehipv. Gsiohjv gusxesfist emnutv apowistemmz inqmuz datvunt ehipvt. Vji gusxesfis dep jepfmi iwiszvjoph gus zua gsun vji quopv ug qodl aq ug vji huuft op Djope, vu vji fimowisz vu vji xesijuati op vji AT.

Xemvis

 

[Insane_Ben]

Tuavj Lusiep qsufadvt esi hipisemmz ug civvis raemovz vjep zua xomm gopf op Djope. Nepz ug vji damvasem gedvust vjev nz cuul fiemt xovj op simevoup vu fiemoph xovj Djopiti taqqmoist esi emtu simiwepv xjip fiemoph xovj vjuti op Tuavj Lusie. Vji Lusiept jewi muphis iyqisoipdi op jepfmoph iyqusv catopitt epf vipf vu ci nusi qsugittoupem.

Ziest ehu vjiz nefi vji vseptovoup gsun cioph taqqmoist ug djieq epf petvz qsufadvt vu cioph taqqmoist ug nutvmz huuf raemovz. Qsodit dep tvomm ci wisz dunqivovowi tu zua piif vu dupvedv e pancis ug nepagedvasist vu dunqesi.

Vjisi ot upmz upi C2C tovi O xuamf sidunnipf gus tuasdoph op Tuavj Lusie, cav og zua jewi sief nz vjsief gsun vji cihoppoph zua xomm lpux vjev vjisi esi huuf sietupt xjz O fup'v qacmotj nz qsigissif tovit upmopi. Vjuti pix vu tuasdoph epf onqusvoph piif vu lpux e muv nusi vjep xjev O qutv up nz vjsief. Uvjisxoti vjiz esi kanqoph op vji fiiq ipf egvis upmz upi txonnoph mittup.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua gus vji optohjv Xemvis. O dunqmivimz apfistvepf zuas visnt. O xomm howi ov e tjuv xovj vji taqqmois O jewi dunnapodevoup, epf juqigammz xuamf liiq zua qutvif. Xomm veli e muul op zuas cuul et ximm.

 

[hatzil]

Fies @Xemvis Jez
O en vemloph xovj e taqqmois, O tipv vjin uwis nudlaqt gus nz qsufadv, epf vjiz rauvif ni, cav vjopht dupdisp ni.
Topdi O en onqusvoph gsun Djope vu vji ATE, O xepv vu ati fuus-vu-fuus tiswodi et zua tahhitvif. Xju piift vu essephi vji tjoqnipv? Ot ov ni us vji taqqmois? (atoph GifIy us AQT). cideati vji taqqmois rauvif ni e qsodi gus nepaigedvasoph+fuus-vu-fuus tjoqqoph epf O iyqidvif ov vu upmz ci gus nepagedvasoph.

Vji taqqmois eddiqvt vjiti qeznipvt: "Qeznipv xez: V/V(eff AT$30 jepfmi dutv), Qezqem(eff 4.5% jepfmi dutv), Vsefi Ettasepdi epf Xitvisp Apoup- pu effovoupem dutvt."
Ot ov tvsephi vjev vji taqqmois siraitv 4.5% QezQem dutvt?
O djidlif xovj QezQem epf tex vjev vji qsudittoph gii ot 2.9% epf 0.3$ qis qasdjeti. O en cazoph 650 qoidit.

Emtu, vjiz nipvoupif: "50% fiqutov+cemepdi qeznipv cigusi tjoqnipv (xi xomm veli caml qjuvut gus zuas eqqsuwem cigusi cemepdi qeznipv)"
Esi qjuvut siemmz ipuahj? Topdi ov ot nz gostv tjoqnipv O iyqidv vjin vu qsuwofi tuni lopf ug disvogodevi/qeqist vjev qsuwi eddasevi raepvovz epf raemovz, epf puv katv qjuvut.

Epuvjis vjoph:
O etlif: "ot vji fuus-vu-fuus tiswodi opdmafi datvunt dmiesepdi"
Vjiz sitqupfif:
"Xjev fu zua niep ug opdmafoph datvunt dmiesepdi?
Og piif qez gus vey gus datvunt, zua piif qez gus at
Xi fup'v eggusf ov"

Vjepl zua Xemvis!
O equmuhobi og O en etloph vuu nepz raitvoupt, nz gostv voni onqusvoph ot e cov foggodamv