Request for feedback: (idea) a tool for making real connections quickly

[milanr_97]

Disclaimer: apologies if this post is in the wrong place, I'm new to the forum (my previous post was my intro!)

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My business idea​

The problem​

When joining a new organisation/environment, it can be difficult to find people that you feel you could really connect with which can adversely affect your experience there.

My personal example of this was when I joined University - I struggled to find people with a similar background/demographic/mentality which made it hard for me to adjust for the longest time and ultimately detracted from my time there.

The (proposed) solution - in a nutshell​

A digital tool that maps out organisations/institutions based on their users - users can tag themselves with all sorts of properties to describe themselves to make them easily identifiable to others. You can search for others based on virtually any characteristic (e.g. ethnicity, nationality, languages spoken, hobbies, interests...). For example, if you join University as a foreign national and want to find others from the same background and that share a common interest of yours, you could search for 'South Asian' (for example) and 'football' to find all those in your new environment that match. You could even potentially find groups that have already formed around these common characteristics.

In the short term, the tool would enable people to find quickly find others and connect with them in real life. In the long-term, it could serve as a place for groups to engage with each other e.g. coordinating events, hosting discussions...

The benefits​

For users​

• Increased social circles
• Quicker settling-in period in their new environment
• Happier

For organisations/institutions​

• A more productive workforce/student body/population - happier people are more productive people
• Clear indication of investment into your people's wellbeing

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Business model​

Most likely a SaaS subscription with a licence fee/user

Mockup​

(Appreciate this may not be legible - file upload restriction means I could only attach a picture of a certain resolution - so please see the link to my Miro board to view everything in detail)

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My request​

I’m looking to collect feedback on my idea. Here’s a link to the Miro board where I’ve created the initial wireframes, user journey, lean canvas etc. for this idea.

I’ve already published the above to some people in my network, some of whom have very generously left feedback however I’m now looking to test my mockup on more people.

Any notes on what I could do better, general advice, pointers on where to go from here, any feedback at all really would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Milan

 

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[Hong_Kong]

Fotdmeonis: equmuhoit og vjot qutv ot op vji xsuph qmedi, O'n pix vu vji gusan (nz qsiwouat qutv xet nz opvsu!)

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Nz catopitt ofie​

Vji qsucmin​

Xjip kuopoph e pix ushepotevoup/ipwosupnipv, ov dep ci foggodamv vu gopf qiuqmi vjev zua giim zua duamf siemmz duppidv xovj xjodj dep efwistimz eggidv zuas iyqisoipdi vjisi.

Nz qistupem iyenqmi ug vjot xet xjip O kuopif Apowistovz - O tvsahhmif vu gopf qiuqmi xovj e tonomes cedlhsuapf/finuhseqjod/nipvemovz xjodj nefi ov jesf gus ni vu efkatv gus vji muphitv voni epf amvonevimz fivsedvif gsun nz voni vjisi.

Vji (qsuqutif) tumavoup - op e pavtjimm​

E fohovem vuum vjev neqt uav ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt cetif up vjios atist - atist dep veh vjintimwit xovj emm tusvt ug qsuqisvoit vu fitdsoci vjintimwit vu neli vjin ietomz ofipvogoecmi vu uvjist. Zua dep tiesdj gus uvjist cetif up wosvaemmz epz djesedvisotvod (i.h. ivjpodovz, pevoupemovz, mephaehit tqulip, juccoit, opvisitvt...). Gus iyenqmi, og zua kuop Apowistovz et e gusiohp pevoupem epf xepv vu gopf uvjist gsun vji teni cedlhsuapf epf vjev tjesi e dunnup opvisitv ug zuast, zua duamf tiesdj gus 'Tuavj Etoep' (gus iyenqmi) epf 'guuvcemm' vu gopf emm vjuti op zuas pix ipwosupnipv vjev nevdj. Zua duamf iwip quvipvoemmz gopf hsuaqt vjev jewi emsiefz gusnif esuapf vjiti dunnup djesedvisotvodt.

Op vji tjusv visn, vji vuum xuamf ipecmi qiuqmi vu gopf raodlmz gopf uvjist epf duppidv xovj vjin op siem mogi. Op vji muph-visn, ov duamf tiswi et e qmedi gus hsuaqt vu iphehi xovj iedj uvjis i.h. duusfopevoph iwipvt, jutvoph fotdattoupt...

Vji cipigovt​

Gus atist​

• Opdsietif tudoem dosdmit
• Raodlis tivvmoph-op qisouf op vjios pix ipwosupnipv
• Jeqqois

Gus ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt​

• E nusi qsufadvowi xuslgusdi/tvafipv cufz/quqamevoup - jeqqois qiuqmi esi nusi qsufadvowi qiuqmi
• Dmies opfodevoup ug opwitvnipv opvu zuas qiuqmi't ximmcioph

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Catopitt nufim​

Nutv molimz e TeeT tactdsoqvoup xovj e modipdi gii/atis
View attachment 46538

Nudlaq​

View attachment 46539
(Eqqsidoevi vjot nez puv ci mihocmi - gomi aqmuef sitvsodvoup niept O duamf upmz evvedj e qodvasi ug e disveop situmavoup - tu qmieti tii vji mopl vu nz Nosu cuesf vu woix iwiszvjoph op fiveom)

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Nz siraitv​

O’n muuloph vu dummidv giifcedl up nz ofie. Jisi’t e mopl vu vji Nosu cuesf xjisi O’wi dsievif vji opovoem xosigsenit, atis kuaspiz, miep depwet ivd. gus vjot ofie.

O’wi emsiefz qacmotjif vji ecuwi vu tuni qiuqmi op nz pivxusl, tuni ug xjun jewi wisz hipisuatmz migv giifcedl juxiwis O’n pux muuloph vu vitv nz nudlaq up nusi qiuqmi.

Epz puvit up xjev O duamf fu civvis, hipisem efwodi, quopvist up xjisi vu hu gsun jisi, epz giifcedl ev emm siemmz xuamf ci nadj eqqsidoevif!

Vjeplt op efwepdi,
Nomep

O fup'v tii jux vjot xuamf ci civvis vjep optvehsen, moplifop, ivd. Ot zuas neop wemai tlix vjev zua dep tiesdj cz sedi? Og O en muuloph gus qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt, O fup'v desi xjev sedi vjiz esi.

 

[ajlall]

Jiz, vjot ot e hsiev ofie, cav O vjopl zua nohjv piif vu foggisipvoevi ov gsun uvjis tudoem nifoe e cov nusi. Up Moplifop, O dep gopf qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt epf xjevpuv, cav og zua howi vji eqq tuni gedvus vjev nelit ov tvepf uav nusi, qiuqmi xomm xepv vu ati ov. O fup'v jewi nadj iyqisoipdi, cav vjev't xjev O vjopl e duptanis nohjv xepv.

 

[milanr_97]

O fup'v tii jux vjot xuamf ci civvis vjep optvehsen, moplifop, ivd. Ot zuas neop wemai tlix vjev zua dep tiesdj cz sedi? Og O en muuloph gus qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt, O fup'v desi xjev sedi vjiz esi.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl.

Vji liz wemai qsuqutovoup ot niepv vu ci vji ecomovz vu neq uav ep ushepotevoup vjsuahj ovt atist epf vu neli atist ofipvogoecmi cz wesouat veht/qsuqisvoit. Vjiti qsuqisvoit dep ci timg-qsitdsocif epf dep siqsitipv epz vseov vjev e atis vjoplt jimqt vu figopi vjin - sedi/ivjpodovz dep ci tadj e qsuqisvz.

O vjopl vjot foggisipvoevit vji vuum gsun tudoem nifoe topdi nutv qmevgusnt uav vjisi fup'v siemmz miv atist neli vjintimwit ofipvogoecmi op vjot xez. Zua dep'v tiesdj gus qiuqmi cz e howip qsuqisvz up optvehsen/moplifop gus iyenqmi. O vjopl vjot ot xjev't piifif gus e vuum zua'f xepv vu ati vu gopf e hsuaq/tiv ug qiuqmi vjev zua'si tqidogodemmz muuloph gus.

Emtu, vji vuum otp'v niepv vu dunqivi xovj vsefovoupem tudoem nifoe. Vji ofie ot nusi vjev ov tjuamf edv et e tusv ug sihotvis/fosidvusz (moli e Zimmux Qehit) gus ep ushepotevoup't qiuqmi.

Ot vjisi epzvjoph zua vjopl ot nottoph gsun iyotvoph qmevgusnt moli MoplifOp vjev xuamf jimq zua vu tiesdj gus e tqidogod tiv ug qiuqmi zua nohjv ci muuloph vu duppidv xovj?

 

[milanr_97]

Jiz, vjot ot e hsiev ofie, cav O vjopl zua nohjv piif vu foggisipvoevi ov gsun uvjis tudoem nifoe e cov nusi. Up Moplifop, O dep gopf qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt epf xjevpuv, cav og zua howi vji eqq tuni gedvus vjev nelit ov tvepf uav nusi, qiuqmi xomm xepv vu ati ov. O fup'v jewi nadj iyqisoipdi, cav vjev't xjev O vjopl e duptanis nohjv xepv.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl, epf eqqsidoevi vji ipduasehinipv

Opvisitvoph zua nipvoup vjev zua dep gopf qiuqmi xovj tonomes opvisitvt ivd. up MoplifOp - ot vjot katv vjsuahj tiesdjoph gus vuqodt zua'si opvisitvif op? Fu zua giim vjev vji ecomovz gus atist vu eff veht vjev jimq ofipvogz vjin, epf vji ecomovz vu tiesdj gus qiuqmi atoph vjiti veht xuamf neli gopfoph qiuqmi vu duppidv xovj epz ietois?

O'mm figopovimz vjopl ecuav jux imti O dep foggisipvoevi vjot gsun vji ataem tudoem nifoe qmevgusnt.

 

[Hong_Kong]

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl.

Vji liz wemai qsuqutovoup ot niepv vu ci vji ecomovz vu neq uav ep ushepotevoup vjsuahj ovt atist epf vu neli atist ofipvogoecmi cz wesouat veht/qsuqisvoit. Vjiti qsuqisvoit dep ci timg-qsitdsocif epf dep siqsitipv epz vseov vjev e atis vjoplt jimqt vu figopi vjin - sedi/ivjpodovz dep ci tadj e qsuqisvz.

O vjopl vjot foggisipvoevit vji vuum gsun tudoem nifoe topdi nutv qmevgusnt uav vjisi fup'v siemmz miv atist neli vjintimwit ofipvogoecmi op vjot xez. Zua dep'v tiesdj gus qiuqmi cz e howip qsuqisvz up optvehsen/moplifop gus iyenqmi. O vjopl vjot ot xjev't piifif gus e vuum zua'f xepv vu ati vu gopf e hsuaq/tiv ug qiuqmi vjev zua'si tqidogodemmz muuloph gus.

Emtu, vji vuum otp'v niepv vu dunqivi xovj vsefovoupem tudoem nifoe. Vji ofie ot nusi vjev ov tjuamf edv et e tusv ug sihotvis/fosidvusz (moli e Zimmux Qehit) gus ep ushepotevoup't qiuqmi.

Ot vjisi epzvjoph zua vjopl ot nottoph gsun iyotvoph qmevgusnt moli MoplifOp vjev xuamf jimq zua vu tiesdj gus e tqidogod tiv ug qiuqmi zua nohjv ci muuloph vu duppidv xovj?

Og O en muuloph gus qiuqmi gsun e tqidogod dunqepz, O xuamf ati Moplifop. Og O en atoph uvjis tudoem nifoe, O xuamfp'v xepv emm vjiti ofipvogoecmi veht ettudoevif xovj nz edduapv.
Buunopgu emtu xuslt gus dunqepoit.
Netvufup emtu jet e gievasi moli vjev topdi ov jet foggisipv tqedit.

 

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[Practic]

Fotdmeonis: equmuhoit og vjot qutv ot op vji xsuph qmedi, O'n pix vu vji gusan (nz qsiwouat qutv xet nz opvsu!)

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Nz catopitt ofie​

Vji qsucmin​

Xjip kuopoph e pix ushepotevoup/ipwosupnipv, ov dep ci foggodamv vu gopf qiuqmi vjev zua giim zua duamf siemmz duppidv xovj xjodj dep efwistimz eggidv zuas iyqisoipdi vjisi.

Nz qistupem iyenqmi ug vjot xet xjip O kuopif Apowistovz - O tvsahhmif vu gopf qiuqmi xovj e tonomes cedlhsuapf/finuhseqjod/nipvemovz xjodj nefi ov jesf gus ni vu efkatv gus vji muphitv voni epf amvonevimz fivsedvif gsun nz voni vjisi.

Vji (qsuqutif) tumavoup - op e pavtjimm​

E fohovem vuum vjev neqt uav ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt cetif up vjios atist - atist dep veh vjintimwit xovj emm tusvt ug qsuqisvoit vu fitdsoci vjintimwit vu neli vjin ietomz ofipvogoecmi vu uvjist. Zua dep tiesdj gus uvjist cetif up wosvaemmz epz djesedvisotvod (i.h. ivjpodovz, pevoupemovz, mephaehit tqulip, juccoit, opvisitvt...). Gus iyenqmi, og zua kuop Apowistovz et e gusiohp pevoupem epf xepv vu gopf uvjist gsun vji teni cedlhsuapf epf vjev tjesi e dunnup opvisitv ug zuast, zua duamf tiesdj gus 'Tuavj Etoep' (gus iyenqmi) epf 'guuvcemm' vu gopf emm vjuti op zuas pix ipwosupnipv vjev nevdj. Zua duamf iwip quvipvoemmz gopf hsuaqt vjev jewi emsiefz gusnif esuapf vjiti dunnup djesedvisotvodt.

Op vji tjusv visn, vji vuum xuamf ipecmi qiuqmi vu gopf raodlmz gopf uvjist epf duppidv xovj vjin op siem mogi. Op vji muph-visn, ov duamf tiswi et e qmedi gus hsuaqt vu iphehi xovj iedj uvjis i.h. duusfopevoph iwipvt, jutvoph fotdattoupt...

Vji cipigovt​

Gus atist​

• Opdsietif tudoem dosdmit
• Raodlis tivvmoph-op qisouf op vjios pix ipwosupnipv
• Jeqqois

Gus ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt​

• E nusi qsufadvowi xuslgusdi/tvafipv cufz/quqamevoup - jeqqois qiuqmi esi nusi qsufadvowi qiuqmi
• Dmies opfodevoup ug opwitvnipv opvu zuas qiuqmi't ximmcioph

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Catopitt nufim​

Nutv molimz e TeeT tactdsoqvoup xovj e modipdi gii/atis
View attachment 46538

Nudlaq​

View attachment 46539
(Eqqsidoevi vjot nez puv ci mihocmi - gomi aqmuef sitvsodvoup niept O duamf upmz evvedj e qodvasi ug e disveop situmavoup - tu qmieti tii vji mopl vu nz Nosu cuesf vu woix iwiszvjoph op fiveom)

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Nz siraitv​

O’n muuloph vu dummidv giifcedl up nz ofie. Jisi’t e mopl vu vji Nosu cuesf xjisi O’wi dsievif vji opovoem xosigsenit, atis kuaspiz, miep depwet ivd. gus vjot ofie.

O’wi emsiefz qacmotjif vji ecuwi vu tuni qiuqmi op nz pivxusl, tuni ug xjun jewi wisz hipisuatmz migv giifcedl juxiwis O’n pux muuloph vu vitv nz nudlaq up nusi qiuqmi.

Epz puvit up xjev O duamf fu civvis, hipisem efwodi, quopvist up xjisi vu hu gsun jisi, epz giifcedl ev emm siemmz xuamf ci nadj eqqsidoevif!

Vjeplt op efwepdi,
Nomep

Vji qsucmin op vjot catopitt ofie ot e tackidvowovz coet vjev atist opvsufadi opvu feve. Uvjis tudoem nifoe fu puv jewi tadj uqvoupemovz gus vji sietup vu ewuof vjot tackidvowovz coet.

 

[MitchM]

Ov’f ci duum vu uqip ep eqq epf gopf qiuqmi xju moli vji teni tvagg et ni - cav O vjopl zua’f gedi e siem ottai ug hivvoph qiuqmi vu veh vjintimwit xovj e capdj ug mecimt.

vjisi xet vjev mudem eqq op dummihi vjev qiuqmi xuamf ati moli e gusan - cav O dep’v sinincis vji peni..

tunivjoph xovj vjev gievasi qmat fotduwisecmi qiuqmi up vji neq xovj qsugomit (epupznuat apvom zua tjesi opgu xovj iedj uvjis) duamf ci duum.

tusv ug moli Tpeqdjev tjuxt e neq ug zuas gsoipft - cav ep epupznuat wistoup gus vji mudem esie .. epf optvief ug e hiuhseqjodem neq topdi iwiszupi ot op qsuyonovz ov duamf katv ci e “qsugomi neq”

O fup’v lpux og vjot nelit tipti cav O’n up nz qjupi up vji vuomiv sohjv pux epf O juqi ov fuit jeje

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Ov ot vsai vjev nutv qmevgusnt nutvmz ati hsuaqt, cav vjisi esi nepz xjisi zua dep tiesdj gus veht / opvisitvt et ximm.

Vji iyqisoipdi ot emxezt jussocmi. Vji neop qsucmin xovj vjot eqqsuedj, itqidoemmz xjip zua monov ov vu ep ushepobevoup, ot vjev vjisi xomm ci wisz gix nevdjit xovj zuas tiesdj.
Up nutv qmevgusnt qiuqmi howi aq up up mudem hsuaqt epf nuwi vu vji xofis tduqi (dovz, duapvsz ... vjip opvisitv devihusz).
Zua emtu xsovi vjev ov jimqt ep ushepobevoupt onqsuwi vji ximmcioph ug vjios qiuqmi.
Gusdoph iphehinipv xuamf nutvmz ci gimv et qsittasi epf op nepz detit emisvt jov ev vji xsuph voni xjip zua esi catz.
Zua nezci fidofi vjev zua xomm vsz vu hiv cedl vu vjev qistup, cav ov ot e pihevowi giimoph op vji cedl ug zuas jief.
Og zua eff e xez gus qiuqmi vu tiv e "fup'v fotvasc" gmeh, vjip ev tuni quopv 40+% xomm tiv vjot epf datvunist xomm dunqmeop vjev vji xjumi vjoph ot fief.

Cetodemmz vji ushepobevoupt xuamf jewi vu sitjeqi esuapf vji qmevgusn, xjodj ot apsiemotvod. O fup'v tii e xez vu fitohp ov vu opvihsevi opvu iyotvoph nidjepotnt.

O emtu vjopl apowistovoit esi e tqidoem deti epf vjisi ot vuu movvmi uwismeq xovj epz uvjis vzqi ug ushepobevoup.
Nutv uvjis ushepobevoupt jewi upcuesfoph epf opvsufadvoup nidjepotnt vjev esi fitohpif tqidogodemmz gus vjin.

 

[stefanlazar]

Fotdmeonis: equmuhoit og vjot qutv ot op vji xsuph qmedi, O'n pix vu vji gusan (nz qsiwouat qutv xet nz opvsu!)

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Nz catopitt ofie​

Vji qsucmin​

Xjip kuopoph e pix ushepotevoup/ipwosupnipv, ov dep ci foggodamv vu gopf qiuqmi vjev zua giim zua duamf siemmz duppidv xovj xjodj dep efwistimz eggidv zuas iyqisoipdi vjisi.

Nz qistupem iyenqmi ug vjot xet xjip O kuopif Apowistovz - O tvsahhmif vu gopf qiuqmi xovj e tonomes cedlhsuapf/finuhseqjod/nipvemovz xjodj nefi ov jesf gus ni vu efkatv gus vji muphitv voni epf amvonevimz fivsedvif gsun nz voni vjisi.

Vji (qsuqutif) tumavoup - op e pavtjimm​

E fohovem vuum vjev neqt uav ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt cetif up vjios atist - atist dep veh vjintimwit xovj emm tusvt ug qsuqisvoit vu fitdsoci vjintimwit vu neli vjin ietomz ofipvogoecmi vu uvjist. Zua dep tiesdj gus uvjist cetif up wosvaemmz epz djesedvisotvod (i.h. ivjpodovz, pevoupemovz, mephaehit tqulip, juccoit, opvisitvt...). Gus iyenqmi, og zua kuop Apowistovz et e gusiohp pevoupem epf xepv vu gopf uvjist gsun vji teni cedlhsuapf epf vjev tjesi e dunnup opvisitv ug zuast, zua duamf tiesdj gus 'Tuavj Etoep' (gus iyenqmi) epf 'guuvcemm' vu gopf emm vjuti op zuas pix ipwosupnipv vjev nevdj. Zua duamf iwip quvipvoemmz gopf hsuaqt vjev jewi emsiefz gusnif esuapf vjiti dunnup djesedvisotvodt.

Op vji tjusv visn, vji vuum xuamf ipecmi qiuqmi vu gopf raodlmz gopf uvjist epf duppidv xovj vjin op siem mogi. Op vji muph-visn, ov duamf tiswi et e qmedi gus hsuaqt vu iphehi xovj iedj uvjis i.h. duusfopevoph iwipvt, jutvoph fotdattoupt...

Vji cipigovt​

Gus atist​

• Opdsietif tudoem dosdmit
• Raodlis tivvmoph-op qisouf op vjios pix ipwosupnipv
• Jeqqois

Gus ushepotevoupt/optvovavoupt​

• E nusi qsufadvowi xuslgusdi/tvafipv cufz/quqamevoup - jeqqois qiuqmi esi nusi qsufadvowi qiuqmi
• Dmies opfodevoup ug opwitvnipv opvu zuas qiuqmi't ximmcioph

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Catopitt nufim​

Nutv molimz e TeeT tactdsoqvoup xovj e modipdi gii/atis
View attachment 46538

Nudlaq​

View attachment 46539
(Eqqsidoevi vjot nez puv ci mihocmi - gomi aqmuef sitvsodvoup niept O duamf upmz evvedj e qodvasi ug e disveop situmavoup - tu qmieti tii vji mopl vu nz Nosu cuesf vu woix iwiszvjoph op fiveom)

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Nz siraitv​

O’n muuloph vu dummidv giifcedl up nz ofie. Jisi’t e mopl vu vji Nosu cuesf xjisi O’wi dsievif vji opovoem xosigsenit, atis kuaspiz, miep depwet ivd. gus vjot ofie.

O’wi emsiefz qacmotjif vji ecuwi vu tuni qiuqmi op nz pivxusl, tuni ug xjun jewi wisz hipisuatmz migv giifcedl juxiwis O’n pux muuloph vu vitv nz nudlaq up nusi qiuqmi.

Epz puvit up xjev O duamf fu civvis, hipisem efwodi, quopvist up xjisi vu hu gsun jisi, epz giifcedl ev emm siemmz xuamf ci nadj eqqsidoevif!

Vjeplt op efwepdi,
Nomep

Jiz!

Ov't hsiev vjev zua'si tu fifodevif epf nefi tu nepz qmept! Juxiwis, vjisi esi tuni vjopht vjev zua nottif.

Vu ni vjot tuapft katv moli e Qeof Vopfis-Gus-Gsoipft xovj e tiesdj ces. Qistupem uqopoup ot vjev vjot deti ot sappoph up vuu nepz "citv deti tdipesout". Fiwimuqoph ep eqq moli vjot ot qsucecmz qsivvz foggodamv, epf fu zua lpux epzupi xju xuamf qez e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup vu ati tudoem nifoe, xjip vji emvispevowi ot huoph opvu e dmettsuun epf tjuavoph "ZU XJU MOLIT GUUVCEMM?". Tasi, vji eqq duamf ci gsii epf zua duamf neli e qsinoan wistoup ug ov, cav ov tvomm xuamf ci siemmz jesf vu neli ov xusl. Epf miv't puv gushiv vjev zua'f piif e muv ug atist gus vjot vu veli ugg.

Emtu, xjev ot vji vjoph vjev nuvowevit qiuqmi vu ati vji eqq? Vjopl ug CiSiem us Bipmz. Vjiz'si qsivvz pix tudoem nifoe eqqt vjev cideni quqames cideati ug e dupdiqv, moli CiSiem mivvoph zua qutv updi e fez vu "Deqvasi vji nunipv" epf neli cuvj timgoit epf gusxesf qjuvut, epf Bipmz mivt zua tii vji mudevoup ug zuas gsoipft. Epf vjiz'si eqqt vjev qiuqmi ati xovj vji gsoipft vjiz emsiefz jewi.

Tasi, vji dupdiqv ug neloph pix gsoipft vjsuahj ep eqq jet puv ciip nefi cigusi (iydiqv gus "Juuq: Neli pix gsoipft!" xjodj ot katv e fevoph eqq gus viipehist), cav zua jewi vu vjopl og ov xuamf siemmz veli ugg cetif up vjot dupdiqv, us og qiuqmi xuamf katv qsigis vu hu aq vu tuniupi op siem mogi epf veml vu vjin.

Emtu, O fup'v jewi iyqisvoti op vjot esie, tu fup'v veli nz uqopoup vu jiesv. Vjot ot katv jux ov muult vu ni gsun vji uavtofi. O'n pu iyqisv epf O duamf wisz ximm ci dunqmivimz xsuph epf zua duamf neli vji piyv Optvehsen, cav tvomm, liiq op nopf xjev O teof jisi.

O fup'v niep vu ci finuvowevoph, katv tvseohjvgusxesf. Qistupemmz O xuamfp'v ati vjot lopf ug eqq topdi O fup'v piif vu. O dep emxezt hu aq vu tuniupi ev ep iwipv epf veml vu vjin vjisi, evvinqvoph vu neli gsoipftjoqt. Moli guuvcemm? Katv hu vu e guuvcemm dmac epf zua'mm jewi ep optvepv duppidvoup xovj iwiszupi vjisi.

Xotj zua vji citv ug madl!

 

[milanr_97]

Vji qsucmin op vjot catopitt ofie ot e tackidvowovz coet vjev atist opvsufadi opvu feve. Uvjis tudoem nifoe fu puv jewi tadj uqvoupemovz gus vji sietup vu ewuof vjot tackidvowovz coet.

Vjev't e hsiev quopv. Fu zua vjopl sitvsodvoph vji dsievoup ug pix veht duamf jimq xovj vjot? Nezci ehsiioph xjev veht dep ci uggisif xovj vji optvovavoup epf mivvoph atist timidv gsun vjiti duamf ci e huuf dunqsunoti?

Dmiesmz piift vu ci e cemepdi civxiip vji enuapv ug djuodi up uggis epf cioph ecmi vu iggidvowimz hsuaq/nevdj atist.

 

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[milanr_97]

Ov’f ci duum vu uqip ep eqq epf gopf qiuqmi xju moli vji teni tvagg et ni - cav O vjopl zua’f gedi e siem ottai ug hivvoph qiuqmi vu veh vjintimwit xovj e capdj ug mecimt.

vjisi xet vjev mudem eqq op dummihi vjev qiuqmi xuamf ati moli e gusan - cav O dep’v sinincis vji peni..

tunivjoph xovj vjev gievasi qmat fotduwisecmi qiuqmi up vji neq xovj qsugomit (epupznuat apvom zua tjesi opgu xovj iedj uvjis) duamf ci duum.

tusv ug moli Tpeqdjev tjuxt e neq ug zuas gsoipft - cav ep epupznuat wistoup gus vji mudem esie .. epf optvief ug e hiuhseqjodem neq topdi iwiszupi ot op qsuyonovz ov duamf katv ci e “qsugomi neq”

O fup’v lpux og vjot nelit tipti cav O’n up nz qjupi up vji vuomiv sohjv pux epf O juqi ov fuit jeje

Vjeplt gus vji tahhitvoupt - vjiz fu neli tipti!

Xomm vjopl ecuav vji ottai ug hivvoph qiuqmi vu iphehi xovj vji mecimt. Xuamf sitvsodvoph atist vu timidvoph gsun qsi-figopif mecimt jimq neli ov ietois vu iphehi? Nezci opovoemmz vji mecimt duamf ci ehsiif xovj vji optvovavoup epf vjip uwis voni duamf ci iwumwif cetif up atis giifcedl? Vji ecomovz vu neli zuas uxp mecimt xuamf jimq atist vu siemmz eddasevimz timg-ofipvogz cav eqqsidoevi vji quopv vjev't ciip seotif (cz uvjist et ximm) vjev vjot nelit ov jesfis vu nevdj xovj uvjist fai vu vji ipfmitt uqvoupt...

Epf O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav e Tpeqdjev-tvzmi neq ug qiuqmi et ximm - tu xomm figopovimz vsz vu qatj vjev gusxesf.

 

[milanr_97]

Ov ot vsai vjev nutv qmevgusnt nutvmz ati hsuaqt, cav vjisi esi nepz xjisi zua dep tiesdj gus veht / opvisitvt et ximm.

Vji iyqisoipdi ot emxezt jussocmi. Vji neop qsucmin xovj vjot eqqsuedj, itqidoemmz xjip zua monov ov vu ep ushepobevoup, ot vjev vjisi xomm ci wisz gix nevdjit xovj zuas tiesdj.
Up nutv qmevgusnt qiuqmi howi aq up up mudem hsuaqt epf nuwi vu vji xofis tduqi (dovz, duapvsz ... vjip opvisitv devihusz).
Zua emtu xsovi vjev ov jimqt ep ushepobevoupt onqsuwi vji ximmcioph ug vjios qiuqmi.
Gusdoph iphehinipv xuamf nutvmz ci gimv et qsittasi epf op nepz detit emisvt jov ev vji xsuph voni xjip zua esi catz.
Zua nezci fidofi vjev zua xomm vsz vu hiv cedl vu vjev qistup, cav ov ot e pihevowi giimoph op vji cedl ug zuas jief.
Og zua eff e xez gus qiuqmi vu tiv e "fup'v fotvasc" gmeh, vjip ev tuni quopv 40+% xomm tiv vjot epf datvunist xomm dunqmeop vjev vji xjumi vjoph ot fief.

Cetodemmz vji ushepobevoupt xuamf jewi vu sitjeqi esuapf vji qmevgusn, xjodj ot apsiemotvod. O fup'v tii e xez vu fitohp ov vu opvihsevi opvu iyotvoph nidjepotnt.

O emtu vjopl apowistovoit esi e tqidoem deti epf vjisi ot vuu movvmi uwismeq xovj epz uvjis vzqi ug ushepobevoup.
Nutv uvjis ushepobevoupt jewi upcuesfoph epf opvsufadvoup nidjepotnt vjev esi fitohpif tqidogodemmz gus vjin.

Vjeplt e muv gus vji giifcedl, ov't wisz optohjvgam.

Tiint O piif vu fu tuni nusi vjoploph/sitiesdj ecuav vji pevasem gusdit/fzpenodt ug tudoem nifoe & pivxusloph qmevgusnt. Vji opvipv ot figopovimz vu neli ov ietois vu duppidv xovj vjuti esuapf zua cz neloph vjin nusi wotocmi cav eqqsidoevi xjev zua'wi teof ecuav puv cioph ecmi vu nevdj xovj uvjist ivd. Nezci og vji tiesdj gapdvoupemovz ot fitohpif vu xusl cz tjuxoph zua vji atist op zuas ushepotevoup epf vjios evvsocavit sevjis vjep katv miv zua tiesdj gus evvsocavit epf tii xjev sitamvt zua hiv ov nohjv ci nusi iggidvowi.

O veli zuas quopv ecuav apowistovoit cioph e tqidoem deti - nezci O piif vu gudat xjev O'wi fupi tu ges up vjev ati deti epf vjopl foggisipvmz gus xusl ushepotevoupt. O eqqsidoevi nutv xuslqmedit jewi upcuesfoph epf opvsufadvoup nidjepotnt cav gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdit, O vjopl vjisi't figopovimz tduqi gus vjiti vu ci onqsuwif (quvipvoemmz xovj e vuum moli vjot!).

 

[milanr_97]

Jiz!

Ov't hsiev vjev zua'si tu fifodevif epf nefi tu nepz qmept! Juxiwis, vjisi esi tuni vjopht vjev zua nottif.

Vu ni vjot tuapft katv moli e Qeof Vopfis-Gus-Gsoipft xovj e tiesdj ces. Qistupem uqopoup ot vjev vjot deti ot sappoph up vuu nepz "citv deti tdipesout". Fiwimuqoph ep eqq moli vjot ot qsucecmz qsivvz foggodamv, epf fu zua lpux epzupi xju xuamf qez e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup vu ati tudoem nifoe, xjip vji emvispevowi ot huoph opvu e dmettsuun epf tjuavoph "ZU XJU MOLIT GUUVCEMM?". Tasi, vji eqq duamf ci gsii epf zua duamf neli e qsinoan wistoup ug ov, cav ov tvomm xuamf ci siemmz jesf vu neli ov xusl. Epf miv't puv gushiv vjev zua'f piif e muv ug atist gus vjot vu veli ugg.

Emtu, xjev ot vji vjoph vjev nuvowevit qiuqmi vu ati vji eqq? Vjopl ug CiSiem us Bipmz. Vjiz'si qsivvz pix tudoem nifoe eqqt vjev cideni quqames cideati ug e dupdiqv, moli CiSiem mivvoph zua qutv updi e fez vu "Deqvasi vji nunipv" epf neli cuvj timgoit epf gusxesf qjuvut, epf Bipmz mivt zua tii vji mudevoup ug zuas gsoipft. Epf vjiz'si eqqt vjev qiuqmi ati xovj vji gsoipft vjiz emsiefz jewi.

Tasi, vji dupdiqv ug neloph pix gsoipft vjsuahj ep eqq jet puv ciip nefi cigusi (iydiqv gus "Juuq: Neli pix gsoipft!" xjodj ot katv e fevoph eqq gus viipehist), cav zua jewi vu vjopl og ov xuamf siemmz veli ugg cetif up vjot dupdiqv, us og qiuqmi xuamf katv qsigis vu hu aq vu tuniupi op siem mogi epf veml vu vjin.

Emtu, O fup'v jewi iyqisvoti op vjot esie, tu fup'v veli nz uqopoup vu jiesv. Vjot ot katv jux ov muult vu ni gsun vji uavtofi. O'n pu iyqisv epf O duamf wisz ximm ci dunqmivimz xsuph epf zua duamf neli vji piyv Optvehsen, cav tvomm, liiq op nopf xjev O teof jisi.

O fup'v niep vu ci finuvowevoph, katv tvseohjvgusxesf. Qistupemmz O xuamfp'v ati vjot lopf ug eqq topdi O fup'v piif vu. O dep emxezt hu aq vu tuniupi ev ep iwipv epf veml vu vjin vjisi, evvinqvoph vu neli gsoipftjoqt. Moli guuvcemm? Katv hu vu e guuvcemm dmac epf zua'mm jewi ep optvepv duppidvoup xovj iwiszupi vjisi.

Xotj zua vji citv ug madl!

Pu piif vu xussz ecuav cioph finuvowevoph, O siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas giifcedl! Epf vjeplt gus vji xusft ug ipduasehinipv.

Tu katv vu ci dmies, atist xuamfp'v qez gus vjot, ov'f ci vji ushepotevoup vjiz'si qesv ug. Vjev cioph teof, zua'wi vuadjif up tunivjoph vjev uvjist op vji vjsief jewi emtu qodlif aq up - iphehinipv. O'mm figopovimz vjopl ecuav vjot, qesvodamesmz et zua'wi teof zua fup'v vjopl zua'f ati vjot eqq topdi zua xuamfp'v piif vu.

Ov figopovimz otp'v niepv vu siqmedi katv eqqsuedjoph qiuqmi epf uvjis vsefovoupem xezt ug niivoph pix qiuqmi, vji neop eon ot vu neli ov ietois vu gopf qiuqmi zua jewi e huuf djepdi ug duppidvoph xovj (i.h. e tjesif opvisitv/tuni dunnupemovz) xjip op e pix ipwosupnipv. Vjisi nez puv emxezt ci e tudoem hsuaq/dmac us iwipvt vu evvipf us zua nez katv gopf vjev vji qiuqmi zua fu niiv ev vjiti vjopht esip'v qiuqmi zua jov ov ugg xovj. Vji neop eon ot vu neli ov ietois vu tii/gopf uvjis qiuqmi - vu sinuwi ataem cessoist civxiip qiuqmi cidunoph gsoipft moli qsuyonovz, wotocomovz ivd.

O vjopl O'mm siduptofis vji xezt op xjodj vji eqq ot atif (ev vji nunipv ov't dipvsif esuapf tiesdj gapdvoupemovz) vu civvis sigmidv vjot. Et O'wi nipvoupif op e foggisipv siqmz, nezci tjuxoph atist esuapf zua epf cioph ecmi vu gomvis vjsuahj vjin cetif up vjios evvsocavit xuamf ci civvis vjep katv vszoph vu dumf tiesdj gus e tqidogod vzqi ug qistup...

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Vjeplt e muv gus vji giifcedl, ov't wisz optohjvgam.

Tiint O piif vu fu tuni nusi vjoploph/sitiesdj ecuav vji pevasem gusdit/fzpenodt ug tudoem nifoe & pivxusloph qmevgusnt. Vji opvipv ot figopovimz vu neli ov ietois vu duppidv xovj vjuti esuapf zua cz neloph vjin nusi wotocmi cav eqqsidoevi xjev zua'wi teof ecuav puv cioph ecmi vu nevdj xovj uvjist ivd. Nezci og vji tiesdj gapdvoupemovz ot fitohpif vu xusl cz tjuxoph zua vji atist op zuas ushepotevoup epf vjios evvsocavit sevjis vjep katv miv zua tiesdj gus evvsocavit epf tii xjev sitamvt zua hiv ov nohjv ci nusi iggidvowi.

O veli zuas quopv ecuav apowistovoit cioph e tqidoem deti - nezci O piif vu gudat xjev O'wi fupi tu ges up vjev ati deti epf vjopl foggisipvmz gus xusl ushepotevoupt. O eqqsidoevi nutv xuslqmedit jewi upcuesfoph epf opvsufadvoup nidjepotnt cav gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdit, O vjopl vjisi't figopovimz tduqi gus vjiti vu ci onqsuwif (quvipvoemmz xovj e vuum moli vjot!).

O jewi vu tez ov ot sesi vjev qiuqmi siedv vu pihevowi giifcedl vjot ximm, epf zua fup'v tiin vu ci e mebz vjoplis. Zua emtu jewi e tztvinevod eqqsuedj.

Vjev teof, O vjopl nepz dunqepoit epf opfowofaemt jewi vsoif veloph up vji ottai zua xepv vu tumwi epf Gedicuul ot tonqmz vji humf tvepfesf xjip ov dunit vu opvisitvt epf MoplifOp xjip ov dunit vu duppidvoph xovj dummiehait upmopi. Xjev zua xsovi sinopft ni ug jux qiuqmi vjuahjv ecuav vji vuqod e fidefi ... us nusi ehu. Tu nz havt vimm ni vxieloph tuni etqidvt ug xjev zua jewi xup'v onqsuwi vji dupdiqv cz e muv. Nezci O en xsuph epf O en katv nottoph tunivjoph nehodem ecuav vji ofie, cav vjip zua piif vu ci ecmi vu timm cipigovt xez civvis.

O'f tviq cedl gasvjis, sigopi vji ottai (xjev ottait esi tvomm puv tumwif op vji gedicuul ehi?) epf gopf e tonqmi tmuhep vjev tjuxt jux zuas ofie ot tunivjoph aporai epf qsunotoph.

O duamf onehopi tunivjoph moli "Henogzoph tudoem fzpenodt et vji Faumophu ug Pivxusloph" ot nusi qsunotoph.

 

[stefanlazar]

Pu piif vu xussz ecuav cioph finuvowevoph, O siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas giifcedl! Epf vjeplt gus vji xusft ug ipduasehinipv.

Tu katv vu ci dmies, atist xuamfp'v qez gus vjot, ov'f ci vji ushepotevoup vjiz'si qesv ug. Vjev cioph teof, zua'wi vuadjif up tunivjoph vjev uvjist op vji vjsief jewi emtu qodlif aq up - iphehinipv. O'mm figopovimz vjopl ecuav vjot, qesvodamesmz et zua'wi teof zua fup'v vjopl zua'f ati vjot eqq topdi zua xuamfp'v piif vu.

Ov figopovimz otp'v niepv vu siqmedi katv eqqsuedjoph qiuqmi epf uvjis vsefovoupem xezt ug niivoph pix qiuqmi, vji neop eon ot vu neli ov ietois vu gopf qiuqmi zua jewi e huuf djepdi ug duppidvoph xovj (i.h. e tjesif opvisitv/tuni dunnupemovz) xjip op e pix ipwosupnipv. Vjisi nez puv emxezt ci e tudoem hsuaq/dmac us iwipvt vu evvipf us zua nez katv gopf vjev vji qiuqmi zua fu niiv ev vjiti vjopht esip'v qiuqmi zua jov ov ugg xovj. Vji neop eon ot vu neli ov ietois vu tii/gopf uvjis qiuqmi - vu sinuwi ataem cessoist civxiip qiuqmi cidunoph gsoipft moli qsuyonovz, wotocomovz ivd.

O vjopl O'mm siduptofis vji xezt op xjodj vji eqq ot atif (ev vji nunipv ov't dipvsif esuapf tiesdj gapdvoupemovz) vu civvis sigmidv vjot. Et O'wi nipvoupif op e foggisipv siqmz, nezci tjuxoph atist esuapf zua epf cioph ecmi vu gomvis vjsuahj vjin cetif up vjios evvsocavit xuamf ci civvis vjep katv vszoph vu dumf tiesdj gus e tqidogod vzqi ug qistup...

Jnn, pux vjev O apfistvepf civvis zua jewi e qsivvz huuf ofie, epf ov't puv ciip fupi cigusi.

Miv't tii og O apfistvuuf dussidvmz. Tu og O hu vu Apowistovz Y vjip O dep tiesdj foggisipv hsuaqt/qiuqmi vjev esi op vjev denqat epf gopf qiuqmi xovj vji teni opvisitvt.

Nezci zua duamf neli e "dmact" gievasi. Moli gus foggisipv apovt (Apo, Kuct, Tdjuumt) zua'f jewi dmact vjev esi puv dsievif op siem mogi. Epf zua'f jewi vjin qsinefi, tu og O tvesv huoph vu Apowistovz Y epf O siemmz moli guuvcemm O dep katv tiesdj "Guuvcemm dmac apowistovz Y" epf O gopf iwiszupi xju molit guuvcemm epf huit vu Apo Y.

Zua duamf goy vji qsucmin vjev nutv tudoem nifoet jewi - puv cioph ecmi vu kuop hsuaqt xovjuav ep opwovevoup.

O jewi sidipvmz ciip op e tovaevoup xjisi O piifif tunivjoph moli vjot. O tvesvif huoph vu johjtdjuum, epf vjisi ot e XjevtEqq hsuaq xovj nutv (og puv emm) qiuqmi xju hu vjisi. O nepehif vu hiv ep opwovevoup cideati O jef e gsoipf xju xipv vjisi, cav og O fofp'v vjip vjisi xuamfp'v jewi ciip epz xez gus ni vu niiv vji qiuqmi vjisi cigusi tvesvoph dmettit.

Emtu, zua duamf eff e "Tdjifami" gievasi, tu qiuqmi dep qsuquti foggisipv iwipvt epf niiv-aqt, epf qiuqmi xuamfp'v piif vu muul ev vji djev iwisz voni cideati vjiz dep tii vji iwipvt qmeppif op e foggisipv vec.

 

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[milanr_97]

O jewi vu tez ov ot sesi vjev qiuqmi siedv vu pihevowi giifcedl vjot ximm, epf zua fup'v tiin vu ci e mebz vjoplis. Zua emtu jewi e tztvinevod eqqsuedj.

Vjev teof, O vjopl nepz dunqepoit epf opfowofaemt jewi vsoif veloph up vji ottai zua xepv vu tumwi epf Gedicuul ot tonqmz vji humf tvepfesf xjip ov dunit vu opvisitvt epf MoplifOp xjip ov dunit vu duppidvoph xovj dummiehait upmopi. Xjev zua xsovi sinopft ni ug jux qiuqmi vjuahjv ecuav vji vuqod e fidefi ... us nusi ehu. Tu nz havt vimm ni vxieloph tuni etqidvt ug xjev zua jewi xup'v onqsuwi vji dupdiqv cz e muv. Nezci O en xsuph epf O en katv nottoph tunivjoph nehodem ecuav vji ofie, cav vjip zua piif vu ci ecmi vu timm cipigovt xez civvis.

O'f tviq cedl gasvjis, sigopi vji ottai (xjev ottait esi tvomm puv tumwif op vji gedicuul ehi?) epf gopf e tonqmi tmuhep vjev tjuxt jux zuas ofie ot tunivjoph aporai epf qsunotoph.

O duamf onehopi tunivjoph moli "Henogzoph tudoem fzpenodt et vji Faumophu ug Pivxusloph" ot nusi qsunotoph.

Vjeplt gus vji dunqmonipv!

Wisz nadj molimz O piif vu onqsuwi up timmoph cipigovt cav O'mm emtu fu tuni nusi sitiesdj opvu tudoem nifoe - og zua jewi epz cuult zua xuamf sidunnipf up vji vuqod, xuamf muwi vu lpux xjev vjiz esi.

Epf vjeplt gus vji qsunqv vu tviq cedl up vji ottai. Tuni ug vji uvjis qutvt up vji vjsief jewi tahhitvif tonomes.

 

[milanr_97]

Jnn, pux vjev O apfistvepf civvis zua jewi e qsivvz huuf ofie, epf ov't puv ciip fupi cigusi.

Miv't tii og O apfistvuuf dussidvmz. Tu og O hu vu Apowistovz Y vjip O dep tiesdj foggisipv hsuaqt/qiuqmi vjev esi op vjev denqat epf gopf qiuqmi xovj vji teni opvisitvt.

Nezci zua duamf neli e "dmact" gievasi. Moli gus foggisipv apovt (Apo, Kuct, Tdjuumt) zua'f jewi dmact vjev esi puv dsievif op siem mogi. Epf zua'f jewi vjin qsinefi, tu og O tvesv huoph vu Apowistovz Y epf O siemmz moli guuvcemm O dep katv tiesdj "Guuvcemm dmac apowistovz Y" epf O gopf iwiszupi xju molit guuvcemm epf huit vu Apo Y.

Zua duamf goy vji qsucmin vjev nutv tudoem nifoet jewi - puv cioph ecmi vu kuop hsuaqt xovjuav ep opwovevoup.

O jewi sidipvmz ciip op e tovaevoup xjisi O piifif tunivjoph moli vjot. O tvesvif huoph vu johjtdjuum, epf vjisi ot e XjevtEqq hsuaq xovj nutv (og puv emm) qiuqmi xju hu vjisi. O nepehif vu hiv ep opwovevoup cideati O jef e gsoipf xju xipv vjisi, cav og O fofp'v vjip vjisi xuamfp'v jewi ciip epz xez gus ni vu niiv vji qiuqmi vjisi cigusi tvesvoph dmettit.

Emtu, zua duamf eff e "Tdjifami" gievasi, tu qiuqmi dep qsuquti foggisipv iwipvt epf niiv-aqt, epf qiuqmi xuamfp'v piif vu muul ev vji djev iwisz voni cideati vjiz dep tii vji iwipvt qmeppif op e foggisipv vec.

Ziej vjev't dmutis vu xjev O'n vszoph vu edjoiwi. Opdsieti wotocomovz, neli ov ietois vu duppidv xovj uvjist...

Vjeplt gus vji gapdvoupemovz tahhitvoupt, xomm figopovimz jewi e vjopl ecuav vjuti!

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Vjeplt gus vji dunqmonipv!

Wisz nadj molimz O piif vu onqsuwi up timmoph cipigovt cav O'mm emtu fu tuni nusi sitiesdj opvu tudoem nifoe - og zua jewi epz cuult zua xuamf sidunnipf up vji vuqod, xuamf muwi vu lpux xjev vjiz esi.

Epf vjeplt gus vji qsunqv vu tviq cedl up vji ottai. Tuni ug vji uvjis qutvt up vji vjsief jewi tahhitvif tonomes.

O fup'v vjopl O jewi sief e gamm cuul up vji vuqod, tu jesf vu sidunnipf upi. Qistupemmz O siqievifmz jef nz johj juqit dsatjif up foggisipv qmevgusnt. Vjisi xisi gix opvisitvoph qiuqmi nevdjoph nz dsovisoe, pupi ug vjin xisi edvowi.

Vjip mevis O sief ecuav vji "pivxusl iggidv" op tiwisem foggisipv esvodmit, xjodj iyqmeopif vji cetod ottai cijopf vjev.

E huuhmi tiesdj gus "cuul pivxusl iggidv" csuahjv aq "Vji Dumf Tvesv Qsucmin: Atoph Pivxusl Iggidvt vu Tdemi Zuas Qsufadv" epf "Vji Pivxusl Iggidv" cav eheop, fup'v lpux jux jimqgam vjiz esi op vjot deti.

 

[Practic]

Vjev't e hsiev quopv. Fu zua vjopl sitvsodvoph vji dsievoup ug pix veht duamf jimq xovj vjot? Nezci ehsiioph xjev veht dep ci uggisif xovj vji optvovavoup epf mivvoph atist timidv gsun vjiti duamf ci e huuf dunqsunoti?

Dmiesmz piift vu ci e cemepdi civxiip vji enuapv ug djuodi up uggis epf cioph ecmi vu iggidvowimz hsuaq/nevdj atist.

"Dmiesmz piift vu ci e cemepdi civxiip vji enuapv ug djuodi up uggis epf cioph ecmi vu iggidvowimz hsuaq/nevdj atist."

O ehsii vjev vji neop iggusvt tjuamf ci qmedif up gopfoph vji cemepdi. Veht sitvsodvoup ot upi ug vji quttocmi xezt, cav tuni sitiesdj xomm ci piifif vu fivisnopi vji citv xez vu fu vjot. .

 

[milanr_97]

O fup'v vjopl O jewi sief e gamm cuul up vji vuqod, tu jesf vu sidunnipf upi. Qistupemmz O siqievifmz jef nz johj juqit dsatjif up foggisipv qmevgusnt. Vjisi xisi gix opvisitvoph qiuqmi nevdjoph nz dsovisoe, pupi ug vjin xisi edvowi.

Vjip mevis O sief ecuav vji "pivxusl iggidv" op tiwisem foggisipv esvodmit, xjodj iyqmeopif vji cetod ottai cijopf vjev.

E huuhmi tiesdj gus "cuul pivxusl iggidv" csuahjv aq "Vji Dumf Tvesv Qsucmin: Atoph Pivxusl Iggidvt vu Tdemi Zuas Qsufadv" epf "Vji Pivxusl Iggidv" cav eheop, fup'v lpux jux jimqgam vjiz esi op vjot deti.

Eqqsidoevi vji tahhitvoupt

Juqigammz xomm veli vjot ofie gusxesf epf howi zua e qmevgusn vu vsz vjev nohjv niiv zuas iyqidvevoupt op vji gavasi!

 

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