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Free registration at the forum removes this block.- How do I rank for synonyms?
-Do I create a completly unique page for "lawyer+city" and "attorney+city" ?
-or do I create one page with a main exact keyword [lawyer+city ] and sprinkle in attorney+ city here and there in the copy?
Highest ranking local competition is full off duplicate content just swapping out city names for each landing page. Besides that its all the same.
Here's an experiment to show you why the synonyms probably won't matter.- How do I rank for synonyms? See below
-Do I create a completly unique page for "lawyer+city" and "attorney+city" ? No
-or do I create one page with a main exact keyword [lawyer+city ] and sprinkle in attorney+ city here and there in the copy?
Part of the reason why people say different things is because Google's algorithm changes. Therefore, a blog post that was relevant at one point may completely contradict the advice of a more recent blog post.Im struggling to find reliable sources of information on some questions that I have as everyone is saying different things, mostly regarding the duplicate content issue.
We did this as part of a large marketing agency I was working at. I was a bit skeptical but it did seem to work.Another recommended strategies I found was:
- Normal page structure: Home, about, contact, services (for most important city) , blog
- hidden landing pages for every single important keyword and city.
I think you should rewrite these pages so that they are not exact copies of each other. In my opinion, the danger of having exact duplicate content on your site is NOT that it will be counted as duplicate content by Google (see Fid's post for why).Highest ranking local competition is full off duplicate content just swapping out city names for each landing page. Besides that its all the same.
The only thing that needs stuffed is a turkey. Just write your articles as you would write a letter to your mother or 12 year old kid. Just be 'normal' and that is what people AND google wants. It hasn't failed me in a decade. All the 'professionals' can go on and on but I've proved my method over time. I will say it again, @Primeperiwinkle all my sites are 1st page.
How should my page structure look? Moz recommends a structure of :
-1 page for every single service
-1 unique landing page for every single city where you list al you services.
- every page accessible from a top level menu
-Do I create a completly unique page for "lawyer+city" and "attorney+city" ?
-or do I create one page with a main exact keyword [lawyer+city ] and sprinkle in attorney+ city here and there in the copy?
No, the penalty for duplicate content is a myth. I wouldn't worry about it.
That's actually pretty crazy. It looks as if Google's algorithm is pretty archaic in the case of the German sites. In that case, you may get good results from 'old school' SEO that no longer works in English. Just be aware, though, that when the algorithm does catch up, sites can be de-ranked quickly. So make it a big part of your focus to provide value all along the way.
Thanks for the reply. This was in December. I already wrapped my head around this a long time ago. The site I asked about already ranks all over the place for every location that is relevantOP, find some information about so-called "Silo" structure. This is the most effective type of site structure in our days. Maybe it will change someday, but for now it's ideal.
Well, duplicate content hurts you most if those duplicated pages compete for the same search terms. Google's "confused" which one is the proper one and shows neither.
Also, don't overlook the role of blogs. 2 years later, a keyword-optimized blog post I wrote is still ranking on page 1 for "annuities denver co."
Now, repeat this search query with your client's product + city. Look for whether Google is also bolding both versions of the term. If it is, great! If not, that's a sign that Google has NOT yet caught up with the fact that both search queries mean the same thing.
No, the penalty for duplicate content is a myth. I wouldn't worry about it.- The way I understood it was, that google sees pages where you just swap city names or keywords as doorway pages which they penalize you for or at least dont rank you
That's actually pretty crazy. It looks as if Google's algorithm is pretty archaic in the case of the German sites. In that case, you may get good results from 'old school' SEO that no longer works in English. Just be aware, though, that when the algorithm does catch up, sites can be de-ranked quickly. So make it a big part of your focus to provide value all along the way.- yes the page will also have a blog, there is actualy a lot to write about.
I did the suggested research. Neither does google bold the synonyms nor do the same domains rank for the different synonym.
I actually believe that the Google AI is not as developed here in Germany yet.
Some examples:
-No1. for "serice-one + city A" has extremly poor onpage seo but 700 backlins, 500 of them being from some shady forums from the US that are not even remotly industry related.
-No1 for "serice-one + city B" is stuffing like 100 keywords at the bottom of this landing page and gets away with it.
- This domain ranks in the top 5 for most nearby cities and has super obvious doorway pages just swapping the H1 title and thats it. View attachment 29045View attachment 29046
It looks as if Google's algorithm is pretty archaic in the case of the German sites.
I'd recommend you run around this forum.
Hmmm, this doesn't sound that likely to me. Their language models might be a little less precise for German, but it's hard for me to believe that the whole algorithm is *years* behind. These are language-indifferent factors.
@Menery how do other pages for these queries look like?
Maybe these are actually the best sites!
Yes yes dear ancient one who does things best. Just eat your damn honeybun and let the young ones argue! ROFL
The only thing that needs stuffed is a turkey. Just write your articles as you would write a letter to your mother or 12 year old kid. Just be 'normal' and that is what people AND google wants. It hasn't failed me in a decade. All the 'professionals' can go on and on but I've proved my method over time. I will say it again, @Primeperiwinkle all my sites are 1st page.
Yeah, you are right. It's logical to be more prepared before getting started the business on SEO optimization. From the other side, there are people that work with people like u or me, since I work on the site that I built too.
So what structure did you end up using? Quite confused by seo in general, seems like everyone is trying to game the system instead of just focusing on providing value and letting the chips fall where they may.Thanks for the reply. This was in December. I already wrapped my head around this a long time ago. The site I asked about already ranks all over the place for every location that is relevant
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