POLL: Side effects from recent vaxcination? Or none?

[Timmy C]

Make minding your own business and not policing your fellow citizens great again .

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Had to breeze over to Twitter for a few moments and I stumbled across some guy preaching about health and vaccines. Mind you, this guy had 4 chins and looked like he swallowed a watermelon whole. Then his profile said something to the likes of "gravy, pizza, and burgers". OK, bro.

 

[Mathuin]

Today at lunch, I walked into my favourite fast casual Mexican place (similar to Chipotle in the US) and they were asking people for proof of vackthination to sit in and eat their burrito.

Immediately left. Looks like I'm never going there again.

 

[MitchC]

We could learn a lot from these business people.

I've created some instagram quote style business tips for you all.

Feel free to steal this concept and start a page, it will do well, I cannot be bothered.

 

[MitchC]

I'm only allowed 10 attachments

 

[Mathuin]

We could learn a lot from these business people.

I've created some instagram quote style business tips for you all.

Feel free to steal this concept and start a page, it will do well, I cannot be bothered.

Hilarious! I'm jealous those bastards came out with such a genius, well-orchestrated scam before I did.

2020/2021 is a Marketing masterclass

 

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[MitchC]

Hilarious! I'm jealous those bastards came out with such a genius, well-orchestrated scam before I did.

2020/2021 is a Marketing masterclass

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[Thoelt53]

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All in lockstep.

It’s truly amazing the utter lack of morality these “journalists” have. They are whores.

 

[GPM]

The next variant is going to have the following symptoms: "Pain in your covid vaccine injection site"

 

[MattR82]

I'm gradually hearing more stories about side effects here in Australia. So far it's only been from someone who knows someone that had a heart related issue though. The worst case being a healthy 18 year old girl that now needs 20k AUD for surgery.

It's really difficult to figure out just how rare these issues are.

I have however met a lot of people (finally - it's not common where I live) that had the delta variant and were only a little bit sick for a day. It seems the majority of the population where I live in QLD Australia think it's almost a death sentence or at least guaranteed hospitalization.

 

[Raoul Duke]

It is more important to know HOW a person died?!?! Jesus F<cking Christ. I hate people.

 

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[Antifragile]

It is more important to know HOW a person died?!?! Jesus F<cking Christ. I hate people.

Confirmation bias at its best. You think ppl die from vaccine, you look for it everywhere and pretend like Covid doesn’t kill people. This “us vs them” is the whole big problem of today.
Sides. People want to pick sides.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Confirmation bias at its best. You think ppl die from vaccine, you look for it everywhere and pretend like Covid doesn’t kill people. This “us vs them” is the whole big problem of today.
Sides. People want to pick sides.

No sides. Just freedom, love, support. Please, that is what we need

 

[Antifragile]

No sides. Just freedom, love, support. Please, that is what we need

Well put. 100%.
Want to increase productivity and live a good life? Stop with the "us vs them" nonsense. Listen to your fellow humans. We are more similar than different. Love and support each other.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Well put. 100%.
Want to increase productivity and live a good life? Stop with the "us vs them" nonsense. Listen to your fellow humans. We are more similar than different. Love and support each other.

I agree; the problem is when one person wants this, and the other person wants to control the first person.

 

[Antifragile]

I agree; the problem is when one person wants this, and the other person wants to control the first person.

Fight for power, for the “right” opinions etc. it’s all the same. Left, Right politics - all for power. So yes, you think “freedom” means one thing, and Bon over there thinks it means a different thing. Take guns in the USA. And now covid etc.

And when one person thinks “but wait… my freedom!!!” And then the next… all are F*cked.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Fight for power, for the “right” opinions etc. it’s all the same. Left, Right politics - all for power. So yes, you think “freedom” means one thing, and Bon over there thinks it means a different thing. Take guns in the USA. And now covid etc.

And when one person thinks “but wait… my freedom!!!” And then the next… all are f*cked.

You have good points, but it's not all equally relative like that. Just my 2 cents. Always enjoy talking with you.

 

[MTF]

Fight for power, for the “right” opinions etc. it’s all the same. Left, Right politics - all for power. So yes, you think “freedom” means one thing, and Bon over there thinks it means a different thing. Take guns in the USA. And now covid etc.

And when one person thinks “but wait… my freedom!!!” And then the next… all are f*cked.

The right to decide not to take the vaccine—or any other medical procedure for that matter—because the risks overweigh its benefits* is an universal freedom.

*as is the case for young, healthy people who have had a natural infection and have a very high risk of myocarditis if they take the vaccine

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

The right to decide not to take the vaccine—or any other medical procedure for that matter—because the risks overweigh its benefits* is an universal freedom.

*as is the case for young, healthy people who have had a natural infection and have a very high risk of myocarditis if they take the vaccine

This, but don't even make people prove the risk/benefit part.

We should begin from the foundation that a person is sovereign over their own body. Nobody else should own you

 

[Antifragile]

The right to decide not to take the vaccine—or any other medical procedure for that matter—because the risks overweigh its benefits* is an universal freedom.

*as is the case for young, healthy people who have had a natural infection and have a very high risk of myocarditis if they take the vaccine

Is there anyone here who disagrees with the above?

The better questions is where the "fighting" is happening today. It's along the lines of "wear the mask or you are not allowed into a restaurant". Is that a freedom for the government to decide? Is that a freedom for the majority vs minority to vote on? Is that a business owner decision?

 

[Antifragile]

This, but don't even make people prove the risk/benefit part.

We should begin from the foundation that a person is sovereign over their own body. Nobody else should own you

Hitler took away that freedom with fascism, jewish population suffered unimaginably. He did it by force.

Today's world is different (USA at least). You have "inconveniences" if you don't get vaccine. So people start debating the meaning of the word "forced". No one physically forced you but if you can't keep you job, make a living, travel etc. Is that the same thing?

Do you see my point? Before you know it, little arguments grow like a snowball. And people become entrenched into their own "side". Even if the vaccine became 100% safe, lack of trust would prevent from believing it. No one knows the facts or the truth and division continues. The opposite is also true. Anyone who's gotten the vaccine and din't die won't accept that there was a risk with taking it in the first place. Any evidence to the contrary will be shrugged as "those anti-vax ppl again". Right?

That dynamic is fascinating and scary at the same time.

But if you are unwilling to even listen to the other side, then you've got a problem that's only getting worse. And I repeat, we are more similar than different. It's the people who fight for power that drive this division in the regular good hearted people. And those people doing all this for power grab are all scum. We need leaders who can unite people and we don't have any. That's the bad news.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Hitler took away that freedom with fascism, jewish population suffered unimaginably. He did it by force.

Today's world is different (USA at least). You have "inconveniences" if you don't get vaccine. So people start debating the meaning of the word "forced". No one physically forced you but if you can't keep you job, make a living, travel etc. Is that the same thing?

Do you see my point? Before you know it, little arguments grow like a snowball. And people become entrenched into their own "side". Even if the vaccine became 100% safe, lack of trust would prevent from believing it. No one knows the facts or the truth and division continues. The opposite is also true. Anyone who's gotten the vaccine and din't die won't accept that there was a risk with taking it in the first place. Any evidence to the contrary will be shrugged as "those anti-vax ppl again". Right?

That dynamic is fascinating and scary at the same time.

But if you are unwilling to even listen to the other side, then you've got a problem that's only getting worse. And I repeat, we are more similar than different. It's the people who fight for power that drive this division in the regular good hearted people. And those people doing all this for power grab are all scum. We need leaders who can unite people and we don't have any. That's the bad news.

I don't understand why you're lecturing me about this... Whose side am I not listening to? Are you listening to every side?

Define "inconvenience." Personally, I believe losing your sole means of earning a living to be more than an inconvenience.

 

[Antifragile]

I don't understand why you're lecturing me about this... Whose side am I not listening to? Are you listening to every side?

Define "inconvenience." Personally, I believe losing your sole means of earning a living to be more than an inconvenience.

Woah. Chill bro.

Not lecturing. Ranting and lecturing are very different. Replying to you... you are reading into what I am saying something more than what I am saying.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Woah. Chill bro.

Not lecturing. Ranting and lecturing are very different. Replying to you... you are reading into what I am saying something more than what I am saying.

...??? Lol

 

[Antifragile]

...??? Lol

Need coles notes? LOL

My prediction is that this divisiveness of "us vs them" will only continue and get worse. Doom and gloom from me this morning. I know...

 

[GPM]

Let me summarize the official narrative for you.

If you don't get the magic fairly arm juice you have a 100% chance of dying, but before you do you will infect everyone around you, including 4x boosted good citizens. So by not being injected you will kill untold thousands of boosted and injected good people.

If you are a good citizen you will be vaxxed and get every booster that comes along and you will be 100% fine. Unless you are near a person who doesn't have arm juice, or near someone who isn't wearing a mask. Even if that other person with no mask has their 6th booster shot they will still kill you. So make sure you never see a face anywhere, unless you are sitting to eat, then it is okay.

Oh, and if you have a vaccine apparently you have a 100% chance of dying. It's depopulation people!!

Did I miss anything?

 

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[Antifragile]

Let me summarize the official narrative for you.

If you don't get the magic fairly arm juice you have a 100% chance of dying, but before you do you will infect everyone around you, including 4x boosted good citizens. So by not being injected you will kill untold thousands of boosted and injected good people.

If you are a good citizen you will be vaxxed and get every booster that comes along and you will be 100% fine. Unless you are near a person who doesn't have arm juice, or near someone who isn't wearing a mask. Even if that other person with no mask has their 6th booster shot they will still kill you. So make sure you never see a face anywhere, unless you are sitting to eat, then it is okay.

Oh, and if you have a vaccine apparently you have a 100% chance of dying. It's depopulation people!!

Did I miss anything?

You nailed it.
Maybe add that if a vax'ed person meets the un-vax'ed, they look at each other and the other person is always an a**hole. 🙄

 

[I Am I Said]

Did I miss anything?

yup:

 

[GPM]

You nailed it.
Maybe add that if a vax'ed person meets the un-vax'ed, they look at each other and the other person is always an a**hole. 🙄

It is like the Spaceballs scene:

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I moved all these VAX discussions to the VAX thread.