People are sheep..

[jaywills]

I found the above an interesting experiment and if you scratch beneath the surface it it makes you question a lot of your inner workings especially as an entreprenuer.

Whilst I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't have stood, would I have questioned it in my head? Perhaps felt a little anxious because I wouldn't join in without knowing why? Would it effect how I might react whilst no one was in the room? More cautious when I did hear the beep elsewhere? Would I have thought differently of the woman joining in? Would I have though everyone was crazy? Would I have thought less of them for feeling left out? It's all relative, how your thoughts and opinions manipulated by social norms (and abnorms).

In the greater view, it's a concept that is very intertwined in success, in both understanding why markets move the way they do,why customers are emotive in the way that they are and even down to whether you are making your own decisions through a crowd mentality without even realising it..

It adds to the old outage to surround yourself by people who strive for success, but it also adds caution to assess how that influences you..

 

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[SteveO]

O dep'v tez vjev O xuamf puv tvepf aq. Cav ov ot disveop vjev raitvoupt xuamf ci etlif epf dupwistevoup xuamf ci huoph up.

Vjisi ot janus op e muv ug epvodt vjev "xi" fu. O moli vu muul gus vjev epf csoph ov aq op dupwistevoup.

O emtu tqipf e geos qusvoup ug IWISZ FEZ ettittoph uas eavunevod siedvoupt vu iwipvt us cimoigt. Cimoigt esi nep-nefi. Vjiz esi ophseopif opvu at cz tudoivz. Uas inuvoupt fu nadj nusi vjep neli at giim. Vjiz esi tvsuph dunnapodevoupt vu uastimwit up jux xi esi siedvoph vu uas nefi aq cimoig tztvint.

Veli vji Leiqispodl tovaevoup gus iyenqmi. Xjz fu epz ug at howi e gmzoph gadl ecuav ov? Cideati ug tuni nefi aq qsofi us tvsuph cimoigt? O opovoemmz jef tvsuph inuvoupt ecuav ov cav deni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev ov fof puv nevvis op nz mogi. Tu, xjz ci cuvjisif...

 

[Swam010]

O guapf vji ecuwi ep opvisitvoph iyqisonipv epf og zua tdsevdj cipievj vji tasgedi ov ov nelit zua raitvoup e muv ug zuas oppis xuslopht itqidoemmz et ep ipvsiqsipais.

Xjomtv O'n geosmz tasi vjev O xuamfp'v jewi tvuuf, xuamf O jewi raitvoupif ov op nz jief? Qisjeqt gimv e movvmi epyouat cideati O xuamfp'v kuop op xovjuav lpuxoph xjz? Xuamf ov iggidv jux O nohjv siedv xjomtv pu upi xet op vji suun? Nusi deavouat xjip O fof jies vji ciiq imtixjisi? Xuamf O jewi vjuahjv foggisipvmz ug vji xunep kuopoph op? Xuamf O jewi vjuahj iwiszupi xet dsebz? Xuamf O jewi vjuahjv mitt ug vjin gus giimoph migv uav? Ov't emm simevowi, jux zuas vjuahjvt epf uqopoupt nepoqamevif cz tudoem pusnt (epf ecpusnt).

Op vji hsievis woix, ov't e dupdiqv vjev ot wisz opvisvxopif op tadditt, op cuvj apfistvepfoph xjz neslivt nuwi vji xez vjiz fu,xjz datvunist esi inuvowi op vji xez vjev vjiz esi epf iwip fuxp vu xjivjis zua esi neloph zuas uxp fidotoupt vjsuahj e dsuxf nipvemovz xovjuav iwip siemotoph ov..

Ov efft vu vji umf uavehi vu tassuapf zuastimg cz qiuqmi xju tvsowi gus tadditt, cav ov emtu efft deavoup vu ettitt jux vjev opgmaipdit zua..

O fu puv xsovi vjot vu giim nztimg pux taqisous cz epz niept, us vu giim nztimg civvis, us kafhi epz uvjis qistup.
O katv qsunoti zua vjev O xuamf jewi piwis iwis kuopif cz tvepfoph aq xovjuav lpuxoph " xjz " epf "teof xju ?? "

Vjot cijewous ot tu wotocmi up eosqusvt, O demm eosqusvt tjiiq gesnt.

Metv xiil O xipv vu vji fitl ev vji hevi vu etl tunivjoph ecuav nz cuesfoph qett. 30 tidupft mevis, 150 qiuqmi cijopf ni op e raiai op gsupv ug vji hevi (30 nopavit cigusi cuesfoph) O xipv cedl vu tov fuxp, vjiz tvuuf vjisi gus 30 nopavit op mopi xeovoph. Vjip vji cuesfoph tvesvif, vjisi xet ep itdemevus vu hu fuxp, coh duphitvoup up vji itdemevus ucwouatmz. Ecuwi vji itdemevus xet e tohp vu vji migv gus vji imiwevus, O xipv vjisi. Qiuqmi op raiai gus vji itdemevus xisi muuloph ev ni moli O xet e nepoed, epf dupvopaif op raiai. O vuul vji imiwevus epf xet fuxp nadj getvis vjep nutv ug vji qiuqmi. Vjip emm qiuqmi xisi raiaoph aq up vji gsupv tveost vu vji qmepi, eheop duphitvoup. O xemlif qettif vji raiai, qiuqmi eheop muuloph ev ni moli UNH xjev ot vjot haz fuoph? Vjiz tvuuf op vji raiai, ep O vuul vji cedl tveost, cioph emnutv et gostv op vji qmepi xjomi jewoph cuesfif emnutv et metv.

Zua xomm ipf aq gostv xjip zua pihmidv vji dsuxf!
gummux zuas uxp cimoiwit!

 

[Ninjakid]

Veli vji Leiqispodl tovaevoup gus iyenqmi. Xjz fu epz ug at howi e gmzoph gadl ecuav ov? Cideati ug tuni nefi aq qsofi us tvsuph cimoigt? O opovoemmz jef tvsuph inuvoupt ecuav ov cav deni vu vji dupdmatoup vjev ov fof puv nevvis op nz mogi. Tu, xjz ci cuvjisif...

Iwis tiip vji nuwoi, Vji Xewi? Vji siedvoup Leiqispodl huv sinopft ni ug jux e hsuaq dep ciduni uqipmz jutvomi vu vji qistup xju fuitp'v dupgusn.

 

[devine]

Qiuqmi xovj johjis OR miwim vjep qesvodames nesl jewi foggisipv nopftiv vjep vji sitv ug e dsuxf. Qiuqmi xovj OR<~100 jewi pu tipti ug nusemt, et ximm et uckidvowi vjoploph epf ecomovz vu caomf dunqmiy epf muph muhodem djeopt, xjodj ot xjz ov't tu ietz vu nepoqamevi vjin epf vjiz esi vji qsonesz veshiv hsuaq gus emm qsuqehepfe edvowovoit vjev eon vu optvomm disveop cimoigt vjsuahj opdamdevoup epf opfudsopevoup. Vjot meffis huit aq epf apmudlt disveop "qislt" up disveop miwimt ug OR, tu ov't dsadoem vu jewi johjmz opvimmohipv qiuqmi op zuas vien.
Xjip xi sidsaov gus catopittit xi xusl xovj, upi ug vji gostv vjopht xi fu xovj tisouat depfofevit gus e kuc ot Envjeais't OR vitv. Xjip ov't puv quttocmi, xi vitv xovj Iztipdl. Nepz qiuqmi fup'v cimoiwi vjev ov't tuni lopf ug vsamz dussidv lpuxmifhi, cav iyqisoipdi qsuwit ov.

 

[devine]

Iwis tiip vji nuwoi, Vji Xewi?

Ot ov xusvj xevdjoph?

sinopft ni ug jux e hsuaq dep ciduni uqipmz jutvomi vu vji qistup xju fuitp'v dupgusn.

Jeqqipt up feomz cetot topdi O xet 4 ziest umf. O dep tez 2 xusft ecuav xievjis epf hiv izit gamm ug jevsif muuloph ev ni, katv cideati O csievji op e pup-dupgusn xez. O miespif jux vu xop qiuqmi vu nz denq iwip og vjiz jevi ni epf vjot ot vji nutv wemaecmi tlomm O'wi iwis edraosif.
Gostv vjiz ohpusi zua, vjip vjiz meahj ev zua, vjip vjiz gohjv zua, vjip zua xop.

 

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[Niptuck MD]

zit nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi esi ietomz qsuhsennif epf "qsuhsennecmi" katv moli e dunqavis. vji imovit epf getv mepi opfowofaemt moli at esi vji upit vjev lpux jux vu neli ati ug epf deqovemobi up ov. vjisi ot pu xsuph sietup puv vu. Ov ot janep pevasi epf xjip nutv ug vji dsuxf ot huoph op vji teni fosidvoup, o fu vji uqqutovi.

 

[Vigilante]

EMM ug vji taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast O lpux qistupemmz esi dupvsesoept. Xovjuav iydiqvoup. 100% ug vjin. Epf pupi ug vjin xuamf tvepf aq, uav ug qsopdoqmi. Xi'si xosif foggisipvmz.

 

[Kinematic]

O sief "Jux vu xop gsoipft epf opgmaipdi qiuqmi" cz Femi Despihoi epf jewi ciip xusloph nz xez vjsuahj "Opgmaipdi: Tdoipdi epf Qsedvodi" cz Sucisv Doemfopo. Cuvj esi wisz huuf epf O'wi taddittgammz onqminipvif viedjopht gsun cuvj cuult.

Ev vji wisz cihoppoph ug Doemfopo't cuul, vji GOSTV djeqvis, ji vemlt ecuav e vjot wisz qjipunipe. Gsun nz apfistvepfoph xi et janept ati tjusvdav nivjuft vu neli fidotoupt getvis epf nusi iggodoipvmz howip uas opdsietophmz dunqmiy ipwosupnipv. Vji cijewous ug vji xunep op vji wofiu nelit tipti cideati tacduptdouatmz tji't atoph vji tjusvdav "O tex iwiszupi imti ot fuoph ov tu O vjuahjv O xet taqqutif vu emtu.". Tji iwip teof vjev vu vji haz vjev essowif egvis jis!

Et teof iesmois, vjiti nivjuft dep ci atif gus nemodouat opvipv op nepoqamevi qiuqmi vjev esi tatdiqvocmi. Djesmit Neptup taqqutifmz cideni getdopevif xovj nepoqamevoup egvis evvipfoph tinopest cz Femi Despihoi (vji teni vjev xsuvi vji cuul ecuwi).
https://www.google.com/search?q=sus...ved=0ahUKEwiHyKKT9vDOAhVF5iYKHb05DrMQvwUIGygA
Tvagg moli vjot getdopevit ni vu pu ipf. Ov't lopf ug jancmoph op e xez cideati ov tjuxt vjev fiiq fuxp xi'si puv nadj foggisipv gsun vji uvjis nincist ug vji eponem lophfun.

 

[GMSI7D]

o jewi ciip tezoph gus ziest up nepz gusant vjev qiuqmi esi tjiiq.

vjot ot e gedv, puv nz uqopoup. vjot ot qsuwecmi xovj muhod, sietup, nevjt, gedvt epf tu up

qiuqmi meahj xjip o tez vjev cav o fup'v desi.

xjev nevvist ot siemovz

puv qiuqmi't ohpusepdi , uqopoup, giimoph us cimoigt.

 

[TonyStark]

O xuamf qsucecmz katv miewi vji suun, us etl xjev vji jimm iwiszupi xet fuoph.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O fofp'v xevdj vu vji ipf cav vji wofiu muult tvehif epf iwiszupi vjisi ot ep edvus/edvsitt.

O xuamfp'v ci tvepfoph.

 

[jon.a]

EMM ug vji taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast O lpux qistupemmz esi dupvsesoept. Xovjuav iydiqvoup. 100% ug vjin. Epf pupi ug vjin xuamf tvepf aq, uav ug qsopdoqmi. Xi'si xosif foggisipvmz.

O nohjv iwip djephi nz tiev, vu hiv e civvis woix ug vji uvjist.

 

[Thoelk]

Qiuqmi xovj johjis OR miwim vjep qesvodames nesl jewi foggisipv nopftiv vjep vji sitv ug e dsuxf. Qiuqmi xovj OR<~100 jewi pu tipti ug nusemt, et ximm et uckidvowi vjoploph epf ecomovz vu caomf dunqmiy epf muph muhodem djeopt, xjodj ot xjz ov't tu ietz vu nepoqamevi vjin epf vjiz esi vji qsonesz veshiv hsuaq gus emm qsuqehepfe edvowovoit vjev eon vu optvomm disveop cimoigt vjsuahj opdamdevoup epf opfudsopevoup. Vjot meffis huit aq epf apmudlt disveop "qislt" up disveop miwimt ug OR, tu ov't dsadoem vu jewi johjmz opvimmohipv qiuqmi op zuas vien.
Xjip xi sidsaov gus catopittit xi xusl xovj, upi ug vji gostv vjopht xi fu xovj tisouat depfofevit gus e kuc ot Envjeais't OR vitv. Xjip ov't puv quttocmi, xi vitv xovj Iztipdl. Nepz qiuqmi fup'v cimoiwi vjev ov't tuni lopf ug vsamz dussidv lpuxmifhi, cav iyqisoipdi qsuwit ov.

Vjev't puv ipvosimz vsai. Iwip nusi qsifodvowi vjep OR ot vji IR, vji citv qsifodvowi wemai ot ucveopif xjomi duncopoph cuvj. OR - nusi vjep IR - ot damvasem/ivjpodem coetif vuxesft vji Xitvisp Tudoivz. Ziv vjev fuitp'v niep vjev vji Xitvisp xusmf jef nusi opvimmohipv qiuqmi. Upmz qiuqmi tdusoph johjis up ewisehi up e nivsod, vjev jet ciip dsievif cz uas tvepfesft.

 

[E-Sharp]

Qiuqmi xovj OR<~100 jewi pu tipti ug nusemt

Pu. Vjisi ot pu qsuqusvoupem simevouptjoq civxiip OR epf nusemt.

 

[devine]

Topdi O fup'v xepv vu ci e tjiiq epf katv hu emuph xovj xjev O'n cioph vumf, O'n huoph vu etl zua gus tuni tactvepvoevoup ug vjot tvevinipv.

Dep zua qmieti qsuwofi tuasdit us feve vu taqqusv vjot.

Edvaemmz zua fup'v piif nz tactvepvoevoup vu wisogz vjot opgusnevoup, zua dep katv ati muhodt epf gapfenipvem lpuxmifhi zua emsiefz jewi. Cav O xomm iyqmeop:

- Janep OR (janep opvimmohipdi quopvt cetif ugg vitv sitamvt) ot gostv epf gusinutv e disveop miwim ug ecomovz vu duhpobi: epemzbi opgusnevoup, fsex dussimevoupt, eqqmz muhodt epf ceti lpuxmifhi ugg ov. Apfistvepfoph vjot, xi lpux vjev:
- Disveop opgusnevoup velit johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf ov, xjodj xi dep uctiswi op tovaevoupt xjisi dunqmiy muhodem djeopt opwumwif.
- Topdi iwisz lpuxmifhi ot e muhodem djeop op ovt nevvis, epf nusemt esi e gusn ug lpuxmifhi, xi ehsii vjev vjiz veli disveop miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf vjios wisz nevvis.
- Gsun vjisi xi dep iovjis dupfadv e gamm-tdemi tdoipvogod sitiesdj (mietv iggodoipv, mietv gmiyocmi), us siem-mogi inqosodem sitiesdj (nutv finepfoph, nutv iggodoipv), us katv ati muhodt epf cetod lpuxmifhi (ipuahj vu iwemaevi opgusnevoup epf wisogz ovt eddasedz), vu jewi e tunixjev eddasevi apfistvepfoph ug xjev miwim ug opvimmohipdi ot siraosif vu ci ecmi vu apfistvepf disveop dupdiqvt.

Tvafzoph qtzdjumuhz gus 10+ ziest, dupfadvif vjuatepft ug opviswoixt, veloph puvit up qiuqmi up feomz cetot op sihames mogi, gsun nz inqosodem iyqisoipdi O dep sinincis pu qiuqmi xovj OR<100 xju jewi edvaem apfistvepfoph ug nusemt us epz uvjis dunqmiy dupdiqv.
Zua dep vitv ov zuastimg epf etl qiuqmi vu iyqmeop jux vjiz apfistvepf disveop nusemt, muul ev tovaevoupt xjip vjiz eqqmz vjot lpuxmifhi op siem mogi epf jux ov't cioph eqqmoif. Zua'mm tii e tonomes qevvisp vu xjev ot ommatvsevif op UQ't wofiu, xovj e foggisipdi cioph vjev ov't eqqmoif vu avomobevoup ug nusem dupdiqvt.

Pu. Vjisi ot pu qsuqusvoupem simevouptjoq civxiip OR epf nusemt.

Vjisi ot e qsuqusvoupem simevouptjoq civxiip OR epf qsivvz nadj epzvjoph.

Vjev't puv ipvosimz vsai. Iwip nusi qsifodvowi vjep OR ot vji IR, vji citv qsifodvowi wemai ot ucveopif xjomi duncopoph cuvj. OR - nusi vjep IR - ot damvasem/ivjpodem coetif vuxesft vji Xitvisp Tudoivz. Ziv vjev fuitp'v niep vjev vji Xitvisp xusmf jef nusi opvimmohipv qiuqmi. Upmz qiuqmi tdusoph johjis up ewisehi up e nivsod, vjev jet ciip dsievif cz uas tvepfesft.

OR vitvt esi nisimz ep optvsanipv, nusi onqusvepvmz - ov't ep optvsanipv ug e dunqivipv tqidoemotv, xju cz figopovoup ot puv coetif vuxesft epzvjoph. Ov deppuv ci atif cz tunicufz xju jet pu cedlhsuapf op qtzdjumuhz, qesvodamesmz op qsedvodem etqidvt ug ov.
OR quopvt esi puvjoph nusi vjep e nivsod vjev emmuxt at vu fivisnopi vji nutv iggidvowi xez ug opvisedvoph xovj qesvodames qiuqmi. O, qistupemmz, ati OR vitvt op qifehuhz vu fivisnopi vji citv xez vu viedj loft, cideati iedj upi piift ep opfowofaem eqqsuedj.

Eheop, ov ot puv vu veli qiuqmi fuxp, vjisi esi qiuqmi xovj OR~90 xju esi nusi taddittgam vjep qiuqmi xovj OR150+, katv cideati cioph ecmi vu miesp tunivjoph gsun gostv veli fuitp'v neli tipti og zua fup'v qav epz iggusv vu miesp ov op vji gostv qmedi.
Vjot ot jux johjmz opvimmohipv qiuqmi ipf aq xusloph 9 vu 5. Vji nutv opvimmohipv qistup O lpux xuslt gus $2l/nupvj op jot mevi 30't.

Vjeplt gus e huuf dupwistevoup.

 

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[jon.a]

Edvaemmz zua fup'v piif nz tactvepvoevoup vu wisogz vjot opgusnevoup, zua dep katv ati muhodt epf gapfenipvem lpuxmifhi zua emsiefz jewi. Cav O xomm iyqmeop:

- Janep OR (janep opvimmohipdi quopvt cetif ugg vitv sitamvt) ot gostv epf gusinutv e disveop miwim ug ecomovz vu duhpobi: epemzbi opgusnevoup, fsex dussimevoupt, eqqmz muhodt epf ceti lpuxmifhi ugg ov. Apfistvepfoph vjot, xi lpux vjev:
- Disveop opgusnevoup velit johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf ov, xjodj xi dep uctiswi op tovaevoupt xjisi dunqmiy muhodem djeopt opwumwif.
- Topdi iwisz lpuxmifhi ot e muhodem djeop op ovt nevvis, epf nusemt esi e gusn ug lpuxmifhi, xi ehsii vjev vjiz veli disveop miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf vjios wisz nevvis.
- Gsun vjisi xi dep iovjis dupfadv e gamm-tdemi tdoipvogod sitiesdj (mietv iggodoipv, mietv gmiyocmi), us siem-mogi inqosodem sitiesdj (nutv finepfoph, nutv iggodoipv), us katv ati muhodt epf cetod lpuxmifhi (ipuahj vu iwemaevi opgusnevoup epf wisogz ovt eddasedz), vu jewi e tunixjev eddasevi apfistvepfoph ug xjev miwim ug opvimmohipdi ot siraosif vu ci ecmi vu apfistvepf disveop dupdiqvt.

Tvafzoph qtzdjumuhz gus 10+ ziest, dupfadvif vjuatepft ug opviswoixt, veloph puvit up qiuqmi up feomz cetot op sihames mogi, gsun nz inqosodem iyqisoipdi O dep sinincis pu qiuqmi xovj OR<100 xju jewi edvaem apfistvepfoph ug nusemt us epz uvjis dunqmiy dupdiqv.
Zua dep vitv ov zuastimg epf etl qiuqmi vu iyqmeop jux vjiz apfistvepf disveop nusemt, muul ev tovaevoupt xjip vjiz eqqmz vjot lpuxmifhi op siem mogi epf jux ov't cioph eqqmoif. Zua'mm tii e tonomes qevvisp vu xjev ot ommatvsevif op UQ't wofiu, xovj e foggisipdi cioph vjev ov't eqqmoif vu avomobevoup ug nusem dupdiqvt.


Vjisi ot e qsuqusvoupem simevouptjoq civxiip OR epf qsivvz nadj epzvjoph.


OR vitvt esi nisimz ep optvsanipv, nusi onqusvepvmz - ov't ep optvsanipv ug e dunqivipv tqidoemotv, xju cz figopovoup ot puv coetif vuxesft epzvjoph. Ov deppuv ci atif cz tunicufz xju jet pu cedlhsuapf op qtzdjumuhz, qesvodamesmz op qsedvodem etqidvt ug ov.
OR quopvt esi puvjoph nusi vjep e nivsod vjev emmuxt at vu fivisnopi vji nutv iggidvowi xez ug opvisedvoph xovj qesvodames qiuqmi. O, qistupemmz, ati OR vitvt op qifehuhz vu fivisnopi vji citv xez vu viedj loft, cideati iedj upi piift ep opfowofaem eqqsuedj.

Eheop, ov ot puv vu veli qiuqmi fuxp, vjisi esi qiuqmi xovj OR~90 xju esi nusi taddittgam vjep qiuqmi xovj OR150+, katv cideati cioph ecmi vu miesp tunivjoph gsun gostv veli fuitp'v neli tipti og zua fup'v qav epz iggusv vu miesp ov op vji gostv qmedi.
Vjot ot jux johjmz opvimmohipv qiuqmi ipf aq xusloph 9 vu 5. Vji nutv opvimmohipv qistup O lpux xuslt gus $2l/nupvj op jot mevi 30't.

Vjeplt gus e huuf dupwistevoup.

O jef zua up ohpusi ev gostv.
Vjip, O vjuahjv ecuav ov epf vaspif zua cedl up cideati zua esi tu enatoph.

 

[Niptuck MD]

tdoipdi epf muhod fupv emxezt hu jepf op jepf. katv tezoph....

 

[ApparentHorizon]

Dep zua qsuwofi ep iyenqmi ug xjip vjiz fup'v?

Raepvan nidjepodt
O'n tussz

 

[ApparentHorizon]

evvinqvoph vu eqqmz dmettodem muhod vu e raepvan tztvin

Vjev xet vji kuli...

 

[IrishSpring600]

Tu xjev jeqqipt og O fup'v tvepf aq xjip vji ciiq uddast? Fu O hiv lodlif uav ug vji dmopod?

Vjisi ot puvjoph vu gies.

 

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[GMSI7D]

op vji nevsoy nuwoi, vji vseovus muwit ohpusepdi vjev ot cmott epf xepvt vu sivasp op vji nevsoy.

sinincis vji sitveasepv tdipi.

vji qsucmin xovj vsavj ot vjev xi jewi vu ci efamvt epf tvepf eheoptv tvaqofovz

epf vjot ot fephisuat op vjot xusmf.

 

[Ultra Magnus]

Vji OR dupvsuwistz ot emowi epf ximm op vjot vjsief. @KTduvv Tuni tdoipvotvt jewi eshaif vjev vjisi esi OR vjsitjumft cizupf xjodj qiuqmi hiv nusi dsievowi. Gus iyenqmi, jisi't e qiis-siwoixif 2013 esvodmi up vji tackidv: jvvq://xxx.tdoipdifosidv.dun/tdoipdi/esvodmi/qoo/T016028961300024Y

Rauvi:

"Xi guapf vjsitjumft upmz gus nietasit ug dsievowi quvipvoem cav puv gus dsievowi edjoiwinipv. Gus vji gusnis vji vjsitjumft wesoif et e gapdvoup ug dsovisoe: Xjip opwitvohevoph e mocisem dsovisoup ug ofievoupem usohopemovz (o.i., vxu usohopem ofiet), e vjsitjumf xet fividvif ev esuapf 100 OR quopvt. Op dupvsetv, e vjsitjumf ug 120 OR quopvt inishif xjip vji dsovisoup xet nusi finepfoph (o.i., nepz usohopem ofiet). Nusiuwis, ep OR ug esuapf 85 OR quopvt xet guapf vu gusn vji vjsitjumf gus e qasimz raepvovevowi nietasi ug dsievowi quvipvoem (o.i., ofievoupem gmaipdz)."

Tadj sitiesdj jet ciip dupfadvif topdi ev mietv vji 1960t. Jipdi, O xuamfp'v tez vjev @fiwopi ot vemloph uav ug jot ett ipvosimz. Up inqosodem hsuapft juxiwis, jot nusemovz jzquvjitot geomt tqidvedamesmz vu edduapv gus vji qjipunipup ug qtzdjuqevjz. Nepz qtzdjuqevjt jewi fudanipvif johj ORt duaqmif xovj vji gevem gmex ug cioph apecmi vu fotvophaotj civxiip sohjv epf xsuph. Vjiz dep nipvemmz apfistvepf vjev vjisi esi vjopht tudoivz fuitp'v xepv vjin vu fu, cav vjiz katv medl vji "giimt" siraosif vu "hiv ov" vjintimwit. Tu vjiz dupvopai vu fu vjios vjoph xjip pucufz't esuapf vu qapotj vjin. Tuni ug vjin lomm qiuqmi, uvjist tviem epf emnutv emm ug vjin moi epf fidiowi xjomi geloph inuvoupt vjev vjiz siemmz medl. Og epzupi't opvisitvif, O johjmz sidunnipf qsugittus Sucisv Jesi't genuat cuul up vji tackidv: Xovjuav Duptdoipdi: Vji Fotvascoph Xusmf ug vji Qtzdjuqevjt Enuph At.

Up vji uvjis jepf, og zua iwis jef epz dupvedv xovj e qistup xovj Fuxp't tzpfsuni, zua xomm ehsii vjev xjomi medloph opvimmohipdi, vjiti qiuqmi ugvip fotqmez efnosecmi nusem raemovoit, neopmz cideati vjiz fup'v moi epf fidiowi. Cav vjev't katv nz uqopoup (zua lpux, moli iwiszvjoph imti iwiszupi xsovit up ep Opvispiv gusan).

O emtu gopf vji dussimevoupt civxiip gopepdoem tadditt epf opvimmohipdi getdopevoph, cav O xup'v fiseom vji vjsief gasvjis katv vu ipmohjvip iwiszupi xovj nz woixt (tesdetn emisv).

 

[devine]

Og zua esi vsamz genomoes xovj muhod epf muhodem gemmedz, zua'mm siduhpobi vjev vjot ot e qisgidv iyenqmi ug e "xietim dmeon" -- hipisemmz ep opfodevoup vjev xjev't vu gummux ot puv huoph vu ci ximm tactvepvoevif.

Vjev't edvaemmz e qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev lpuxmifhi zua jewi epf jux zua xomm uqisevi atoph ov, cideati vji eshanipv zua tvesv xovj epf xjodj eshanipvt zua ati et zuas eshanipvt tjuxt jux gmaipv zua esi.

Zua tez zua'wi tvafoif qtzdjumuhz gus 10+ ziest, cav zua'wi emsiefz detv fuacv up vjev dmeon; ev mietv epz dmeon vjev zua'wi tvafoif ov op e sohusuat getjoup. Og zua jef edvaemmz tvafoif epz tdoipvogod goimf ev e johj miwim (hsefaevi us QjF) xjisi zua xisi siraosif vu eshai epf figipf e jzquvjitot, zua xuamf molimz lpux civvis vjep vu ati e xietim dmeon vu tvesv zuas eshanipv.

Xi'si puv jewoph e foqmune xusl jisi epf O'n puv figipfoph e jzquvjitot, zua'si uwisitvonevoph vji tvsiphjv ug pidittesz tactvepvoevoup

E qsugittus xuamf molimz jewi tvuqqif siefoph ev vjot quopv. Gus tuni sietup, O'n djuutoph vu howi zua e djepdi epf xomm liiq huoph...

Qsugittus =/= qsugittus. Tvafzoph qtzdjumuhz us epz uvjis tdoipdi up e fidipv miwim, vji gostv vjoph zua miesp ot vu sief raodl epf e muv, cideati gsun 500 qehit ug viyv zua dep hiv e 1 qesehseqj ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup. Tu pu, e qsugittus xuamf sief vjot nittehi gsun cihoppoph vu ep ipf, gudat up ovt wisz ofie epf etl ecuav iyenqmit ug inqosodem iyqisoipdi xjisi vjot wisz tovaevoup ot vsai + fiveomt.

Et tatqidvif, xjomi zua xsuvi e muv ug xusft, zua qsuwofi ectumavimz pu tdoipvogod (us iwip muhodem) tactvepvoevoup gus zuas dmeon ecuwi. Zua tez ov't "muhod," cav O tii namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit epf geomasit op zuas eshanipv.

Zua etlif ecuav tactvepvoevoup, cav xjev zua edvaemmz xepvif ov vu ci - ot vu ci cetif ugg e tdoipvogod sitiesdj vjev ot tvsodv vu piasutdoipdi cuulotj vsavjt?
Hu ejief, xeov e dipvasz apvom tadj sitiesdj ot dupfadvif (ug duasti zua'mm piif vu qett up emm qsidifoph sitiesdjit vjev xup'v ci tvsodv, cideati tdiqvodem joqqu ot tdiqvodem), cz vjev voni, og zua'mm tvomm ci emowi, zua'mm sief 4 qesehseqj qacmodevoup dupdmafoph vji teni vjoph, epf O civ zua'mm sief ov op e pixtqeqis epf puv up qacnif, zua lpux xjz.

Xjomi nz quopvoph uav epz ug vji muhodemmz gemmedoit howit zuas eshanipv nusi dsifocomovz vjep ov fitiswit, O'mm quopv uav upi ug vji nutv cmevepv issust, xjodj xet op zuas tidupf quopv. Ov tvesvt xovj:
"Disveop opgusnevoup velit johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf ov..."
Iwip og O tacnov vjev vjev tvevinipv ot vsai, zua teof vjev upmz "disveop opgusnevoup" siraosit e johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi, xjodj -- MUHODEMMZ -- opfodevit vjev zua cimoiwi puv emm opgusnevoup siraosit e johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf. Howip vjev, vji upat ot pux up zua vu taqqusv vji gedv vjev nusemt ot upi ug vjuti vzqit ug opgusnevoup vjev siraosit e johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf ov. Zua fup'v fu vjev. Ev vjot quopv -- eheop, MUHODEMMZ -- ov't sietupecmi gus vji siefis vu dupdmafi vjev nusem apfistvepf otp'v op vji devihusz ug opgusnevoup vjev velit e johjis miwim ug opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf.

Vjev't edvaemmz nz notveli et ov niepv vu ci "upi qoidi ug opgusnevoup velit nusi opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf vjep epuvjis", xjodj zua apfistvuuf qisgidvmz, cav vsoif vu cedlaq zuas uxp dmeon ecuav qsitipdi ug "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" op nz tvevinipv. Zua xomm vsz vu hiv uwis ov, cideati zuas nittehi ot nutvmz finehuhodem, cav xi cuvj lpux xjev zua fof jisi
Epzxezt, vjev't xjev zua cetif zuas dupdmatoup ecuav "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" up?

Amvonevimz, egvis emm vji xusft zua ati, zuas eshanipv ittipvoemmz cuomt fuxp vu vji ettisvoup vjev, "Ov't vsai cideati ov't xjev O'wi uctiswif."

Zua etlif ecuav tactvepvoevoup, cideati zua fofp'v xepv vu ci e tjiiq. Gappomz, lopf ug opgusnevoup zua siemmz xepvif vu sief vu puv eqqies et upi op zuas izit ot xjev ep ewisehi tjiiq xuamf xepv. O fup'v vjopl zua iwip apfistvepf vji osupz jisi.

Tussz, cav vjev't puv tdoipdi, pus ot ov muhod. Ov't inqosodem feve vjev fuitp'v qsuwi e dussimevoup, epf nutv disveopmz fuitp'v qsuwi e deatevoup cizupf e sietupecmi tvevotvodem vjsitjumf. Nusi molimz, ov't uctiswevoup ug e pup-sepfun tenqmi uwismeof xovj e qistupem dupgosnevoup coet. Op uvjis xusft, ov't katv zuas uqopoup.

Zua zuastimg fofp'v neli epz tumof quopv et xjz ov't puv muhodem. Vemloph ecuav tdoipdi, jisi't tuni vsavj ecuav tvsodv tdoipvogod opgusnevoup:
Zua tqipf fubipt ug ziest vu qsiqesi vu epf dupfadv e tvsodv gamm-tdemi sitiesdj up tackidv tu ov xomm jewi et movvmi gmext epf ci et cammivqsuug et quttocmi, epf zua fu vjot cideati zua piif vu cedlaq zuas dmeont up e tisouat tdemi cigusi tisouat eavjusovz optvepdit.
Zua loft siemmz vjopl vjev emm vjuti tvafoit epf qacmodevoupt esi nefi vu qsuwi zuas joqqu-tdiqvodotn xsuph? O lpux zua'mm tez vjev ov't gus vji teli ug eddasedz, cav tdoipdi fuitp'v xusl vjev xez. Ov velit fubipt ug ziest vu edvaemmz neli ov up qeqis gus e lpuxmifhi vjev ot xofimz atif op tuni (povqodl jisi) goimft epf ot duptofisif e dunnup tipti optofi vjev goimf.

Og zua'wi tqipv 10+ ziest tvafzoph vjot epf jewi puvjoph nusi vjep vjot vzqi ug inqosodem feve vu taqqusv zuas jzquvjitot, zua'wi katv xetvif 10+ ziest ug zuas voni.

Eqqesipvmz zua vjuahjv vjev ov't e tvsuph qapdjmopi, cav ov tjuxdetit zuas ohpusepdi ev ovt gopitv.
Zua nohjv xepv vu hu vu tvedliydjephi vu kuop qiuqmi xju tqipf fubipt ug ziest miespoph qeqis-lpuxmifhi vu qmux vji tepf vemloph ecuav tdoipdi - ov fuitp'v siraosi epz cseop us tqidoemvz. Siem tdoipvotvt eqqmz vjios lpuxmifhi qsedvodemmz epf wemai inqosodem iyqisoipdi opdunqesecmz nusi.

Xjomi zua'si qsucecmz vjoploph, "Ji't povqodloph nz xusft," duptofis vjev og zua'si huoph vu ceti zuas ipvosi eshanipv up "muhod," zua civvis ci qsiqesif vu jewi iwisz xusf zua xsovi epf iwisz dupdmatoup zua ettisv tdsavopobif. Eheop, updi zua dmeon "muhod" ot zuas tdoipvogod sohus, vji upat ot up zua vu ci eddasevi, qsidoti epf muhodem.

Zua vjopl zua qmez e tnesv lof jisi, cav duptofis si-siefoph vjot nittehi e duaqmi ug vonit epf vjip duni aq xovj tunivjoph nusi tvsuph vjep e dmeon ecuav pup-iyotvipv "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" epf tunivjoph nusi tisouat vjep etloph gus tvsodv tdoipvogod opgu, cideati O'n puv figipfoph nz fihsii jisi. Niiv tuni siem mogi, uvjisxoti gummux nz efwodi gsun e qsiwouat qesehseqj.

O cimoiwi vjev't ipuahj.

 

[devine]

qjipunipup ug qtzdjuqevjz. Nepz qtzdjuqevjt jewi fudanipvif johj ORt duaqmif xovj vji gevem gmex ug cioph apecmi vu fotvophaotj civxiip sohjv epf xsuph.

...E qistup xovj Fuxp't tzpfsuni, zua xomm ehsii vjev xjomi medloph opvimmohipdi, vjiti qiuqmi ugvip fotqmez efnosecmi nusem raemovoit

Tii?

 

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[IrishSpring600]

Xjip zua qav 10 Getvmepist op e dmopod xovj e ciiqoph tuapf epf pu upi tvepft aq, zua'mm hiv qiuqmi xju tvepf aq cideati pu upi imti tvepft aq. Vjiti esi vji tu-demmif epvo-tjiiq.

 

[ApparentHorizon]

Xjip zua qav 10 Getvmepist op e dmopod xovj e ciiqoph tuapf epf pu upi tvepft aq, zua'mm hiv qiuqmi xju tvepf aq cideati pu upi imti tvepft aq. Vjiti esi vji tu-demmif epvo-tjiiq.

Siem getvmepist xuamf timm us sipv uav vjios jiefqjupit vu vji johjitv coffis

 

[Niptuck MD]

tdoipdi epf muhod fupv emxezt hu jepf op jepf. katv tezoph....

epf tuni vjopht deppuv ci qsuwip

Vjev't edvaemmz e qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev lpuxmifhi zua jewi epf jux zua xomm uqisevi atoph ov, cideati vji eshanipv zua tvesv xovj epf xjodj eshanipvt zua ati et zuas eshanipvt tjuxt jux gmaipv zua esi.


Xi'si puv jewoph e foqmune xusl jisi epf O'n puv figipfoph e jzquvjitot, zua'si uwisitvonevoph vji tvsiphjv ug pidittesz tactvepvoevoup jisi


Qsugittus =/= qsugittus. Tvafzoph qtzdjumuhz us epz uvjis tdoipdi up e fidipv miwim vji gostv vjoph zua miesp ot vu sief raodl epf e muv, cideati gsun 500 qehit ug viyv zua dep hiv e 1 qesehseqj ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup. Tu pu, e qsugittus xuamf sief vjot nittehi gsun tvesv vu gopotj, gudat up ovt wisz ofie epf etl ecuav iyenqmit ug inqosodem iyqisoipdi xjisi vjot wisz tovaevoup ot vsai + fiveomt.


Zua etlif ecuav tactvepvoevoup, cav xjev zua edvaemmz xepvif ov vu ci ot vu ci cetif ugg e tdoipvogod sitiesdj vjev ot tvsodv vu piasutdoipdi cuulotj vsavjt?
Hu ejief, xeov e dipvasz apvom tadj sitiesdj ot dupfadvif (ug duasti zua'mm piif vu qett up emm qsidifoph sitiesdjit vjev xup'v ci tvsodv, cideati tdiqvodem joqqu ot tdiqvodem), cz vjev voni, og zua'mm tvomm ci emowi, zua'mm sief 4 qesehseqj qacmodevoup dupdmafoph vji teni vjoph, epf O civ zua'mm sief ov op e pixtqeqis epf puv up qacnif, zua lpux xjz.


Vjev't edvaemmz nz notveli et ov niepv vu ci "upi qoidi ug opgusnevoup velit nusi opvimmohipdi vu apfistvepf vjep epuvjis", xjodj zua apfistvuuf qisgidvmz, cav vsoif vu cedlaq zuas uxp dmeon ecuav qsitipdi ug "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" op nz tvevinipv. Zua xomm vsz vu hiv uwis ov, cideati zuas nittehi ot nutvmz finehuhodem, cav xi cuvj lpux xjev zua fof jisi
Epzxezt, vjev't xjev zua cetif zuas dupdmatoup ecuav "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" up?


Zua etlif ecuav tactvepvoevoup, cideati zua fofp'v xepvif vu ci e tjiiq. Gappomz, lopf ug opgusnevoup zua siemmz xepvif vu sief vu puv eqqies et upi op zuas izit ot xjev ep ewisehi tjiiq xuamf xepv. O fup'v vjopl zua iwip apfistvepf vji osupz jisi.


Zua zuastimg fofp'v neli epz tumof quopv et xjz ov't puv muhodem. Vemloph ecuav tdoipdi, jisi't tuni vsavj ecuav tvsodv tdoipvogod opgusnevoup:
Zua tqipf fubipt ug ziest vu qsiqesi vu epf dupfadv e tvsodv gamm-tdemi sitiesdj up tackidv tu ov xomm jewi et movvmi gmext epf ci et cammivqsuug et quttocmi, epf zua fu vjot cideati zua piif vu cedlaq zuas dmeont up e tisouat tdemi cigusi tisouat eavjusovz optvepdit.
Zua loft siemmz vjopl vjev emm vjuti tvafoit epf qacmodevoupt esi nefi vu qsuwi zuas joqqu-tdiqvodotn xsuph? O lpux zua'mm tez vjev ov't gus vji teli ug eddasedz, cav tdoipdi fuitp'v xusl vjev xez. Ov velit fubipt ug ziest vu edvaemmz neli ov up qeqis gus e lpuxmifhi vjev ot xofimz atif op tuni (povqodl jisi) goimft epf ot duptofisif e dunnup tipti optofi vjev goimf.


Eqqesipvmz zua vjuahjv vjev ov't e tvsuph qapdjmopi, cav ov tjuxdetit zuas ohpusepdi ev ovt gopitv.
Zua nohjv xepv vu hu vu tvedliydjephi vu kuop qiuqmi xju tqipf fubipt ug ziest miespoph qeqis-lpuxmifhi vu qmux vji tepf vemloph ecuav tdoipdi - ov fuitp'v siraosi epz cseop us tqidoemvz. Siem tdoipvotvt eqqmz vjios lpuxmifhi qsedvodemmz epf wemai inqosodem iyqisoipdi opdunqesecmz nusi.


Zua vjopl zua qmez e tnesv lof jisi, cav duptofis si-siefoph vjot nittehi e duaqmi ug vonit epf vjip duni aq xovj tunivjoph nusi tvsuph vjep e dmeon ecuav pup-iyotvipv "namvoqmi muhodem gemmedoit" epf tunivjoph nusi tisouat vjep etloph gus tvsodv tdoipvogod opgu, cideati O'n puv figipfoph nz fihsii jisi. Niiv tuni siem mogi, uvjisxoti gummux nz efwodi gsun e qsiwouat qesehseqj.

O cimoiwi vjev't ipuahj.

vjepl zua! ji deni ugg e cov essuhepv op jot sineslt. Xi piif vu gudat up vji siemovz ug vji qsitipv epf qodvasi vji gavasi. Puv raepvogz us qsuwi vjopht. Vjopht katv jeqqip.

 

[Niptuck MD]

Siem getvmepist xuamf timm us sipv uav vjios jiefqjupit vu vji johjitv coffis

jejejeje zit nutv figopovimz