My family always tells me to get a job.

[MJ DeMarco]

Have you ever held a job?

Do you realize that a job can have the inside scoop to opportunities you wouldn't find sitting at home?

Do you know a job can help instill discipline and a good work ethic?

Do you know a job can teach you things you'd never know?

Do you know a job can teach you the relative value of money? I just made $150 for 10 hours of backbreaking work? And this dinner for my friends is $150, or 10 hours of my life?

Maybe your family isn't begging you for a job in the literal sense, they want to see you get the other stuff.

 

[cutthroughstatic]

I second MJ's response.

I own a business now. This would never have been possible without the string of mostly awful jobs I held.

I did landscaping and learned that I never wanted to have a job that required me to be in 100+ degree heat all day.

So I started working at Chick-Fil-A...where I realized fast food is one of the most thankless jobs out there...

So I got a job waiting tables, until I got sick of the CRAZY hours and working until 3am....

So I got a job selling cars, where I got annoyed at my lack of control over so many things like product quality, brand perception, etc...

So I got promoted and started buying cars, going to auctions etc, and I liked this but saw the opportunity to...

Buy independently as a contractor for many dealerships, where I worked 3 days a week and made more money, which I loved until I...

Started my own dealership and now run that full time. Not "Fastlane" in the sense that it's time-sucking, but very rewarding and on the right path now!

Every job I held before took me to where I am now. When I started my working career, I would have never even guessed I would be anywhere close to the industry I'm in. But life is a path and you just have to start walking it. I'm sure MJ never would have guessed that his million dollar idea would be a limo service website... but he was just walking the path doing life.

Go do something.

 

[JAJT]

I'm going to be an a$$. Sorry.

maybe im just a spoiled millenial

Not only does everything you are posting sound lazy as hell, but now it sounds like you are trying to say it's not your fault because of your generation? Really?

Your attitude screams "I hate work and don't want to do it and you can't make me".
This is not a trait of good entrepreneurs.
It's a trait of a child who thinks work is someone else's responsibility.

If you read more, you will pretty clearly see that most Entrepreneurs didn't avoid work - they were often the HARDEST workers. The BEST. Employers LOVED them. They busted their a$$ on the job, added value wherever they could, worked overtime as needed, consulted with management on issues they thought they could help with, volunteered, and in general they kicked a$$.

When they were out of work they busted a$$ to find work.
Or they freelanced.
Or they hustled.

Tell me - what was the last thing you kicked a$$ at?
Or busted a$$ for?
Do you have any history of adding value to other people's lives?
Do you help others when there is no gain in it for you?
When was the last time you got your hands filthy F*cking dirty (figuratively or literally, whatever) to get a job done for no other reason than it needed doing and you could do it?
Do you volunteer? For anything? For anyone?

I guarantee you that if you look at the top entrepreneurs on this forum, their attitude screams "I work".
The ones gloating about not working for other people do so because they put in the damn time to get to that point.

You need to understand this very clearly: Entrepreneurship is going to be many, many, many times harder, more frustrating, more exhausting and with longer hours than a normal job. You will feel lost. Nobody will be there to tell you which direction to go. Nobody will tell you a decision is right, or wrong. Almost every answer you will ever receive will be "well, it depends". Some weeks, months, and even years will have you earning LESS than even a modest job. You may make $1,000 in a week only to look at the numbers and see your expenses were $900. Or $1,200. Or $2,000. When shit breaks - you are the person who fixes it. If your website is broken and you can't pay to have it fixed, well you better put on your coding glasses because guess what? You're a coder now until it's fixed.

It's work.
Hard, thankless, frustrating, confusing, depressing, expensive, lonely work until one day you "figure it out" and something works and you make a killing, or see a nice lucrative exit. But that freedom is on the other side of hard work and adversity.

Also, what's your skillset that makes you believe you can bypass traditional employment?
Clearly if you are fighting against working for others so hard it must be because you know how to make money without it? Right?
What's your plan for money before you become successful at your own business?

Can you afford to live on your own?
Or do you expect mommy and daddy to let you live rent-free, with free food, adding no value to the family so that you can read books on Oprah while you "figure something out"?

Let me be clear

I WANT you to be here.
I WANT you to start your own business.
I WANT to see you successful and killing it and living the high life.
I do, and we do.

But your attitude is broken.
You aren't thinking things through.
You are acting childish.

If you do not have a REAL plan that makes SENSE with REALISTIC expectations, then for everyone's sake, including your own, get a damn job and work on starting something on the side. Funnel all income to your side project. Use it as seed money to build your business and build experience and get successful to a point where quitting won't be something you dream of - it will be the thing you do because it's a poor waste of time that is actually costing you more money than it brings in.

Good luck.

 

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[JAJT]

fine whatever im a bad person

Incorrect. Try again.

Here, let me show you a mature response. What people here expect and want to hear from tough love replies:

------ (In my best Tanisha voice) -----
​

"Thanks for this everyone. I really appreciate all the responses about hard work. I guess I got too caught up thinking about the freedom at the end of the tunnel that I never really stopped to think about how hard it would be to get there. I thought this life would be a lot easier than everyone says and that I could avoid putting in the work and just skip to the end. I want the money, I want the lifestyle, but I guess I also need to learn how to want the long hours and hard work that needs to come first if I want any of that. I really wasn't thinking this through and thought I was just saying what everyone here wanted to hear."

"I never really thought about how much money I would need up front and where that money would come from. I just thought I could 'start a business' and start rolling in cash like you hear all the stories talk about. I never really considered that I'd need some source of income to start and grow something valuable. Speaking of value, I never stopped to think about how anything I get is a result of helping others and adding value. I should really focus on how I can help people and solving problems."

"I think what I'll do is work a year as a bank teller, kick as much a$$ as possible, learn as much as possible and maybe ask some of my managers if they'll help me learn a bit about success - some of them seem really well off. I'll save up every dollar I have and not buy anything for myself for an entire year. At my salary that should be about $xx,xxx. Then I can start something on the side and grow it while keeping my job in case it doesn't work out. I'll keep investing every dollar into my business from my job until I don't need the job anymore and can quit when it's worth quitting and I can be proud of it because I know I'll have earned it."

"So sorry everyone, I've been really selfish and turned every attempt at help into something about myself. I can be really emotional and it's hard to hear that I'm doing things wrong and thinking about this all backwards. I'll stop posting for a while, read as much as I can, and take all your advice to heart. I've only read x, y, and z so far as it relates to business and personal development - does anyone have a good starting book list I can focus on while I learn? It seems I have a long way to go and would love to put my reading skills to good use for a change!"

"I'll also try to use grammar in my replies. I suppose if I keep saying I'm an awesome reader and super smart I should start showing it somehow, right?"

"Thanks everyone, sorry for being such a pain the last few weeks on here. Please don't give up on me with me while I grow and learn on this journey. I'm still young and have a long way to go!"

------ (back to JAJT) -----
​

Or you know, "i'm a bad person". Whatever. You do you.

 

[Esoteric Wealth]

Dude. I'm 20. At 18, right after high-school I got a job in probably the shittiest manufacturing warehouse you could find. They would hire anyone off the street. Felons, no education, etc. People smoking weed behind the building during lunch, prison tough style attitudes.

That shit sucked, 60 hour weeks, sweating all day with no AC in the warehouse, hard labor and minimum wage. It was almost depressing honestly, MON-SAT, mandatory overtime daily.
The good thing is, it led me into my next warehouse job, which was slightly better.

Fast forward 5+ shitty jobs, and I've recently found a job working for a wholesale distributor of a certain niche. They liked me, saw my work history, and decided to hire me as the "go-to utility guy", in case someone goes down.

They are teaching me everything. I'm learning purchasing, working on their website (retail website too), product photos, shipping and receiving (which was where the bulk of my experience was), photoshop, marketing, accounting, cold-calling businesses to sell to, everything.

This is so F*cking valuable to me and the business I'm building. I'm seeing shit that I was planning to do in action. It's literally shit I used to over-complicate and stress out about in my head, but now that I see them just doing it, it's like, "hey, I could do that no problem". I'm also getting into the niche that my last job (wholesaler and retailer) was into LOL.

Not only is there knowledge gained, but having a job instills some sort of hustle in me. When you get off at 5 or 6, you kinda just don't wanna waste your day, go to sleep, and wake up to do it again. It's depressing.
Of course, with no job, this sense of urgency doesn't exist.

ALSO, they would have never hired me if it wasn't for all the shit jobs I've had in the past. The money of course helps building my business too, way too annoying without some sort of fixed income trying to build something.

 

[biophase]

well honestly work and me have just never gotten along so i want that part to be as short as can be, i just like relaxing by the beach, tanning, shopping, luxury items, im good at reading

I like relaxing by the beach, reading and selling luxury items to people like you, who can't afford them but want them to impress their friends.

 

[cutthroughstatic]

oh i thought from millionaire fastlane that a job was the worst thing you could get, lack of control, no payraise increase above 3%, horrible people to work with, so i've been trying to avoid a job at all costs

I think from my post you will have surmised that yes, a job sucks. Working for others sucks. Making money for someone else, sucks.

But look at MJ, the guy that wrote TMF . What did he have BEFORE he had his big idea, and his big business? A lot of crappy jobs. He shares the gory details of those jobs in his book.

You can't ignore the process! The process is not waiting for the right idea, mooching off of others until you can find a way to be profitable, or bouncing from million dollar idea to million dollar idea... The process involves getting out and working, hustling, doing what you have to do.

Your mindset is correct in that you desire more in life than to work for someone else. That's great. But to get to that goal, sometimes you have to be in the trenches first.

It's hard to have the right motivation to work for yourself unless you have truly experienced what a soul-suck having a job can be.

Most lessons in life have to be learned first hand.

Please don't let this discourage your entrepreneurial passions. Everyone here wishes for you to succeed. The path to success might just have more bends in it than you at first imagine.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Incorrect. Try again.

Here, let me show you a mature response. What people here expect and want to hear from tough love replies:

------ (In my best Tanisha voice) -----
​

"Thanks for this everyone. I really appreciate all the responses about hard work. I guess I got too caught up thinking about the freedom at the end of the tunnel that I never really stopped to think about how hard it would be to get there. I thought this life would be a lot easier than everyone says and that I could avoid putting in the work and just skip to the end. I want the money, I want the lifestyle, but I guess I also need to learn how to want the long hours and hard work that needs to come first if I want any of that. I really wasn't thinking this through and thought I was just saying what everyone here wanted to hear."

"I never really thought about how much money I would need up front and where that money would come from. I just thought I could 'start a business' and start rolling in cash like you hear all the stories talk about. I never really considered that I'd need some source of income to start and grow something valuable. Speaking of value, I never stopped to think about how anything I get is a result of helping others and adding value. I should really focus on how I can help people and solving problems."

"I think what I'll do is work a year as a bank teller, kick as much a$$ as possible, learn as much as possible and maybe ask some of my managers if they'll help me learn a bit about success - some of them seem really well off. I'll save up every dollar I have and not buy anything for myself for an entire year. At my salary that should be about $xx,xxx. Then I can start something on the side and grow it while keeping my job in case it doesn't work out. I'll keep investing every dollar into my business from my job until I don't need the job anymore and can quit when it's worth quitting and I can be proud of it because I know I'll have earned it."

"So sorry everyone, I've been really selfish and turned every attempt at help into something about myself. I can be really emotional and it's hard to hear that I'm doing things wrong and thinking about this all backwards. I'll stop posting for a while, read as much as I can, and take all your advice to heart. I've only read x, y, and z so far as it relates to business and personal development - does anyone have a good starting book list I can focus on while I learn? It seems I have a long way to go and would love to put my reading skills to good use for a change!"

"I'll also try to use grammar in my replies. I suppose if I keep saying I'm an awesome reader and super smart I should start showing it somehow, right?"

"Thanks everyone, sorry for being such a pain the last few weeks on here. Please don't give up on me with me while I grow and learn on this journey. I'm still young and have a long way to go!"

------ (back to JAJT) -----
​

Or you know, "i'm a bad person". Whatever. You do you.

You my friend is why this has escaped the landfill.

but oh well at least they're enjoying themselves

You think this is about a moderator enjoying themselves? Because they/we have nothing better to do?

You don't get it. And I'm afraid you never will. Many folks here, including myself, have been extremely patient with you.

From what you've displayed here, you've shown you are incapable of processing any feedback or constructive criticism, you don't follow instructions, and you don't respect other people's time. You're here to find the shortcut -- not to learn about the grinding hard work and tough processes behind the success. Your mindset is fixed - I'm perfect the way I am now and I deserve the everything I want because I'm me. Any input that does not reflect my perfection is a threat. You demonstrated that you have a consumption and a money drive, your objective is not to provide value, it is to consume luxury items. In other words, you want to consume to consume, not produce to consume.

Again, we're here to HELP you.

We're here to help each other find personal freedom and happiness, whatever that might be for the individual. And yet everything I've said (and others have said) you will malign into a threat or an insult. It feels that why because you have been SCRIPTED to run on emotion, not logic, not fact, and certainly not with any self-awareness as it pertains to the real world, all of which you will need to succeed, no matter in a job or in a business.

The world, or the market, is not going to change to satisfy your ego and selfish desires. You need to change. You either get it, or you don't.

 

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[Envision]

oh i thought from millionaire fastlane that a job was the worst thing you could get, lack of control, no payraise increase above 3%, horrible people to work with, so i've been trying to avoid a job at all costs


well i'll just have to get on that

a pay raise and income is better than being a bum with no job...

Theres levels to this.

 

[biophase]

why do you hate me for no reason

Tanisha,

When I first started reading this thread I was thinking, ok, here is someone trying to get out of her situation and make a better life for herself. But as I kept reading your responses, my opinion turned into, here is someone who is lazy and wants the easy life without working for it. People here will help people who are willing to help themselves. Many of the things you've posted just make me think that you are just lazy. You say that you are educated and smart and hard working, but I don't see any evidence of this. Why do you think this thread has gone from alot of helpful replies to people wanting to put it into the landfill?

You have only been able to hold a job for 2 weeks. Jobs are EASY! If you can't hold a job. How do you ever expect to run a business. Running a business is WAY harder than going to a job, working 8 hours and going home. So if you can't work a simple job, don't even think about starting a business.

What about this response? "well since im a girl / woman, your lucky im thinking about making my own money at all i could sit at home and have my future husband pay for everything which is how your treating me but im not like that at all, im smart, able to do well with reading and im highly educated". So you want credit for being a woman that wants to be independent? Please. Nobody gives a shit what gender you are.

Then finally, "well honestly work and me have just never gotten along so i want that part to be as short as can be, i just like relaxing by the beach, tanning, shopping, luxury items, im good at reading"

What does this say about you? You and work don't get along, but you want all the things that come as a result of hard work. This is what lazy people say.

Quite honestly, you best chances right now, with your current attitude would be to buy a lottery ticket. You really need a mindset change, and everyone has been telling you that, but you have so many mental barriers that you aren't ready to even begin your journey.

 

[jon.a]

fine whatever im a bad person

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

@Tanisha has been banned.

Kind of sad in this day and age, someone cannot take such simple instructions despite being told X times. Somehow I don't think the eighth warning would make a difference, so she has been removed on the seventh.

You guys tried, and mightily hard.

Take a look at the landfill if you're curious how many mulligans we handed out...

The Landfill

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

oh i thought from millionaire fastlane that a job was the worst thing you could get, lack of control, no payraise increase above 3%, horrible people to work with, so i've been trying to avoid a job at all costs

Since you ignored the question, I'm gonna guess you never had a job?

Also, is "don't get a job" the main message you took from TMF ? If so, you might want to read it again, and then follow it up with UNSCRIPTED .

 

[MJ DeMarco]

i dont currently have a product in mind but i was considering using the $400,000 a month that mj spoke about in millionaire fastlane and pricing it according to that 5 criteria, one product for 50% or $200,000 one product for 33% or $132,000, one product for 10% or $40,000, one product for 4% or $16,000 and one product for 3% or $12,000. now what products those will be i dont know, but at least i have a pricing strategy, i think the business would be less work because i'll be the only employee and if someones interested in the products i wont need much scale because they're priced with magnitude which is something mj endorses

Huh? You have a pricing strategy for a product that doesn't exist in a business that doesn't exist from an idea that has yet to exist?

Seriously @Tanisha, before you start seeing any success you need to change your expectations and your mindset insofar as what it takes to pursue a business that actually adds value in the world. All I sense now is a search for shortcuts.

 

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[G-Man]

Because people forget why we are here on earth.

We are not here to live off the creations of our anscestors. We are not here to chill on the beach and read a book about how to learn how to chill on the beach (which I know you didn't).

We are HERE, because we are made to serve.

I'm quoting and rep+++ing because I want you to read that, Tanisha.

I spent all weekend working on investor presentations trying to get capital and it was so depressing. Then, got an email through the website from the wife of a police officer telling us she buys our food product to give to her husband so he has something to snack on while he works long hours in the squad car. A month or so ago, we got an email and photo from some kids in the military over in Afghanistan with our product talking about how they share it with each other. When I was a kid, the most poignant memory I have is one of my dad's customers telling me how grateful they were that there was such a decent and honest man in his profession. They told kid me how much better it made their life.

That's what it's all about. The dollar signs are just proof that you've done something for someone else.

 

[JAJT]

well since im a girl / woman

Doesn't matter.
There are lots of awesome, successful, hard working women on this forum.

im smart, able to do well with reading and im highly educated

1. You can't write a simple sentence.
2. My 7 year old son is also doing well with reading.

I was hoping you'd take everyone's comments to heart and have the self awareness required to self-reflect on everything said.
Instead you've acted indignant about the whole thing.

Clearly there is no progress to be made here. No growth happening.
I agree with marking this #landfill at this point.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I vote #landfill.

I'm NOT gonna landfill something that has some incredible responses, @JAJT, @EvanOkanagan and a few others -- troll or not, what you guys wrote is legendary and can help others.

 

[G-Man]

im a bank teller i just have a resistance to doing things the bosses way which could make me get fired but im trying to suck it up, the longest i've held a job so far is about 2 weeks the other jobs 4 days and then the third job 3 days so hopefully i can stick with something

Time for some soul searching. If you can't follow directions/ meet expectations for a straightforward job like bank teller, how do you expect to meet the ever more demanding expectations of the market?

I was once a young guy that thought I knew better than everyone I worked for. At some point I realized that, as it turns out, other humans have something to teach me. It doesn't mean I want to work for someone else's money for the rest of my life, just the simple realization that sometimes others know better than I do... in fact, not sometimes... a lot of times...

 

[Waspy]

If you don't have a job, where is your money coming from? How are you surviving?

If you are living from the pocket of the people telling you to get a job, they really have a right to be saying that.

If you are independent, earning your own way from a business venture, when why do there care?

I have a funny feeling it's the former.

 

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[jon.a]

well honestly work and me have just never gotten along so i want that part to be as short as can be, i just like relaxing by the beach, tanning, shopping, luxury items, im good at reading

You're joking with us, right?

 

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[ddzc]

lol, that was your only takeaway from the book? If I had a child in their 20s living under my roof doing nothing, I would tell them to get off their a$$ and find a job also. Can you blame them?

 

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[Lionhearted]

it doesnt matter what i do with my life the number one important thing i should be doing is getting a job according to my family, its so frustrating, and my grandma's the worst, she's always on my case about it, i just nod my head say yes and move on with my life, i feel so bad about it because everyone else in my family has a job "there doing something with their lives" and im not, i know i'll have to buckle down and at least start with a job hopefully not for long, i should of known about the whole scripted thing long ago because in about 2014 i went to this class called JOBS 4 LIFE omg i was so stupid but some reason i didnt fall for the job script, i ran into mj's millionaire fastlane and its the best decision i've ever made, i can remember thinking when i was 19 oh this isnt so bad at least i get the weekends off, mj has completely given me new options so im forever grateful

When your parents tell you to "get a job" what they really want for you is for you to do something positive and productive with your life, this of course will require ACTION on your part. I ask my daughter all the time if she is thinking like the 99% or the 1%? The 1% works HARD regardless of what they their "job" is. They move FORWARD every day and they don't make excuses for inaction. They are NOT victims, they OWN 100% their actions and therefore they OWN 100% of their lives (good or bad) they OWN IT!
I believe everyone owns their own business including people who work a "job". If you have a job you have a business. You are SELLING your TIME for MONEY. This is a poor business model but it's much better than not having a job. Your options are get a job or find another way to carry your own weight. You have to walk before you can run. Learn the "business" of selling your time for money first and move your way up the ladder to a better business model. One in which you don't work for money but money works for you. BTW it's NOT going to be easy or comfortable but it certainly will be worth it.

 

[cutthroughstatic]

takes years i want to be like mj and have things alot faster than that

MJ's total process took a lot longer than you're thinking. All the crappy jobs he held were PART of his process. I don't know the timeline exactly but I'm sure in total from the beginning of his working career to his starting his company was probably a decade @MJ DeMarco can probably clarify the exact time..

The point is that overnight success doesn't exist! I've yet to hear your game plan for how you are going to accomplish your fast lane dreams. Do you have one idea you wish to pursue? What unique value do you know you can bring to this world?

I was gifted to have parents who didn't push me to go to college. I was blessed with a family that themselves are entrepreneurs. I wanted what they had, and even though I watched my dad grind through years of "process" to get where he was... I just wanted the results.

I had to go out and work crappy jobs to gain the life experience and the wisdom and the true motivation to pursue the process, the grind. It doesn't come naturally.

I get that you see your parents and you DONT want what they have. But obviously your desire to not work a 9-5 is pretty massive. So I don't think you should be afraid of losing your motivation to be fastlane just by getting a "real job". It might make you want it even more.

Also, this may or not be true, but you seem to think that somehow building a business is less work than working for someone else. Sorry, this isn't the case. It takes major balls, sucks tons of time, and can be an emotional roller coaster. I am less financially stable than I was as an employee. I work way longer hours than I ever did as an employee. But I'm building MY business, one that will eventually serve me instead of me serving it. THIS TAKES TIME AND TONS OF IT.

I hope you take these replies to heart. Everyone here wants you to succeed, but your mindset as it sits is WARPED. Sorry to break it to you, but it is. Not trying to be mean. But look at the feedback you've gotten so far. Obviously, you have a lot of work to do.

Hold that job as a bank teller and DO WHAT YOUR BOSS SAYS. Someone with a lot of motivation, time, and money created the environment and system you're working in. THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU. Your job is to be the best employee you can be.

If you live at home, awesome, you can save your paycheck. You're going to need it to fund your business.

Please reply with just ONE THING you think you could do that would create massive value for the world. If you can't, then you need to keep working and saving money til you figure it out.

My last note.. and don't think I'm beating you up, I say this out of love and a desire to challenge you...
do you feel that your focus is selfish? Or selfless? It seems like you're motives are selfish to me. "I want" "I don't want" etc. stop thinking about what the hell YOU want. You'll get nowhere with that mentality. If you can't serve your employer, how will you serve the world around you? You need to shift your mind from selfish thinking to analyzing the needs of others and serving and loving others. Life isn't about you and no one cares what you want.

Serve your employer. Serve your family. Serve your community. Show people you care about THEM. This is all that matters, the rest will come.

 

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[jon.a]

Thanks, I didn't want to be that guy this time.

I'm going to be an a$$. Sorry.

 

[RHL]

some people can put up with it for decades HOW????

Lol, where do you think FTEs come from? You're not going to have an FTE playing overwatch at home and working your way through a large Chicago Style pizza while somebody else pays to keep the lights on and the internet working.

 

[jon.a]

Drop the mic.

Incorrect. Try again.

Here, let me show you a mature response. What people here expect and want to hear from tough love replies:

------ (In my best Tanisha voice) -----
​

"Thanks for this everyone. I really appreciate all the responses about hard work. I guess I got too caught up thinking about the freedom at the end of the tunnel that I never really stopped to think about how hard it would be to get there. I thought this life would be a lot easier than everyone says and that I could avoid putting in the work and just skip to the end. I want the money, I want the lifestyle, but I guess I also need to learn how to want the long hours and hard work that needs to come first if I want any of that. I really wasn't thinking this through and thought I was just saying what everyone here wanted to hear."

"I never really thought about how much money I would need up front and where that money would come from. I just thought I could 'start a business' and start rolling in cash like you hear all the stories talk about. I never really considered that I'd need some source of income to start and grow something valuable. Speaking of value, I never stopped to think about how anything I get is a result of helping others and adding value. I should really focus on how I can help people and solving problems."

"I think what I'll do is work a year as a bank teller, kick as much a$$ as possible, learn as much as possible and maybe ask some of my managers if they'll help me learn a bit about success - some of them seem really well off. I'll save up every dollar I have and not buy anything for myself for an entire year. At my salary that should be about $xx,xxx. Then I can start something on the side and grow it while keeping my job in case it doesn't work out. I'll keep investing every dollar into my business from my job until I don't need the job anymore and can quit when it's worth quitting and I can be proud of it because I know I'll have earned it."

"So sorry everyone, I've been really selfish and turned every attempt at help into something about myself. I can be really emotional and it's hard to hear that I'm doing things wrong and thinking about this all backwards. I'll stop posting for a while, read as much as I can, and take all your advice to heart. I've only read x, y, and z so far as it relates to business and personal development - does anyone have a good starting book list I can focus on while I learn? It seems I have a long way to go and would love to put my reading skills to good use for a change!"

"I'll also try to use grammar in my replies. I suppose if I keep saying I'm an awesome reader and super smart I should start showing it somehow, right?"

"Thanks everyone, sorry for being such a pain the last few weeks on here. Please don't give up on me with me while I grow and learn on this journey. I'm still young and have a long way to go!"

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Or you know, "i'm a bad person". Whatever. You do you.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

IMPORTANT! - Elon Musk stopped by today...

"If a rockstar entrepreneur visited our forum, either male or female (Elon Musk, Sarah Blakely, Marc Cuban, Kevin O'Leary) and they read this particular thread, would they be inclined to stay at the forum? Contribute their good sense? Or would they say "WTF?" and leave?"

I'll just leave this here. Seems like the OP doesn't care to learn, but maybe others reading are more willing.

 

[MarekvBeek]

Tanisha I love you for the person who you are.

Let me tell you a story.

When human civilization was not that advanced, people had to work to stay alive. They had to find food, hunt on animals and what else. They didn't had the machines or equipment we have now.

Every person in the group had its own role. There wasn't a single person without work to do.

The men went hunting and builded houses. While the women picked fruit in the forest, and teached the childrens the principles of life. It was very simplified to live back then.

But guess what. They were happy. And you know why?

Because every single person did something to contribute to the tribe. And that made them happy. Because they knew they were valuable to other people. It gave them a sense of meaning to their life.

And not only that, they knew they were growing, and that one day their childrens wouldn't have to work ever again because of technological advancement.

That day seemed to be arrived. Many of us doesn't have to work any more, at least not in the way people did not so long ago.

That is a true gift and blessing.

But guess what. It makes people miserable. Suicide rates are skyrocketing now, same as the use of antidepressants. And you know why?

Because people forget why we are here on earth.

We are not here to live off the creations of our anscestors. We are not here to chill on the beach and read a book about how to learn how to chill on the beach (which I know you didn't).

We are HERE, because we are made to serve.

And I know you have that kind of heart. Otherwise you wouldn't care that much about your family.

Because deep down inside, you want yourself to love them, because they loved you no matter what. And you know that is true.

So do what you gotta do. You can't fail, because every failure you make is good, because you did it from a position of love.

So what are you going to do?

 

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[Vigilante]

i always liked you and your posts, you have a good writing style, and actually you cant even find any of my posts for the last week or so because the new moderator has landfilled every single thing i wrote about from holiday debt to retirement, but oh well at least they're enjoying themselves

There's a new moderator? Have I been demoted?

 

[biophase]

@Tanisha has been banned.

Kind of sad in this day and age, someone cannot take such simple instructions despite being told X times. Somehow I don't think the eighth warning would make a difference, so she has been removed on the seventh.

You guys tried, and mightily hard.

Take a look at the landfill if you're curious how many mulligans we handed out...

The Landfill

Wow, it's like she got dumber as time went by. Most people have shitty first posts and improve, but she went from sounding like a 20 year old to making me think that some grammar school kid has been trolling us the whole time.