[Insider Call] How to Kick a$$ with Facebook Marketing

[funkj25]

Jason I've got another question for you.

Been running the ads, CTR dropped a little bit, but no big deal since I've gotten about 60 likes and 17 shares on my original ad so I think the viewership is "virally" outside of original intended target market. Google Analytics is telling me Facebook viewership is only spending 21 seconds on the site, but with a 0% bounce rate (has to be from the video I have on the product page, otherwise this makes no sense). I've had about 80 website referrals from Facebook so far with no purchases so I've currently paused my ads so I can build a lander that better pre-sells my product instead of just dumping them on the product page per your suggestion.

The background just leads to my question however, GA is telling me I've had 300+ direct/no referral visitors in the last 3 days peaking at 217 on the third day and average time on site for this group is about 6.5 minutes. I'm not really doing much of anything besides FB ads at this point (have some pinterest boards up and some youtube videos, but those are shown as referrals and I don't have a ton of video traffic or followers). Could these people be "viral" FB customers? Just trying to see if you have ever experienced this. I know GA isn't always straight on track with all the places people came from with my experience with it in the past.

I can't say thanks enough again. Figuring out a legitimate qualified traffic source has been my major downfall for a good deal of time now and although I still have tons of work to do to optimize and get this figured out I feel like there's a lightbulb slowing turning on and I'm starting to "get it."

 

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[JasonR]

@gaplk25 Fof zua veh zuas moplt qsuqismz op Huuhmi Epemzvodt? jvvqt://taqqusv.huuhmi.dun/epemzvodt/eptxis/1033867?jm=ip

Vjot ot xjz huuf vsedloph ot ep ectumavi natv.

 

[Phones]

@KetupS raodl raitvoup. Og O eff vji gedicuul dupwistoup qoyim vu vji tadditt qehi, og O ati vji teni tadditt qehi gus iwisz tuasdi, xomm ov emtu gosi vjev qoyim gsun fosidv/ushepod vseggod?
Ov qsucecmz vsedlt ov cz fiqmuzoph e duuloi xjip vji atis mepft sohjv?

2pf Raitvoup, Fof zua fowi op Fosidv cazoph emsiefz? O'n fuoph tuni gedicuul qesvpistjoqt epf nutv ug vjiti qehi uxpist jewi pu ofie ug vji quxis vjiz jewi epf vjiz djeshi siemmz mux. Updi O jewi detjgmux sappoph O xomm qsucecmz neli vjin ep uggis up vjuti qehit.

 

[JasonR]

xomm ov emtu gosi vjev qoyim gsun fosidv/ushepod vseggod?

Pu, upmz gosit xjip ov dunit gsun Gedicuul.

Xjev fu zua niep fosidv cazoph? Fosidv cazoph vu ni ot e fosidv xictovi caz (Ecuav.dun, ivd.). Og zua niep qesvpisoph xovj e Gedicuul qehi uxpis - miv ni lpux jux vjev xuslt uav. O'wi gopf nutv ug vjuti hazt vu ci vosi lodlist.

 

[McCoyH]

Raitvoup gus zua @KetupS ,
Metv pohjv xi qatjif 3 eft (emm tonomes xovj foggisipv qjuvu epf tunixjev foggisipv duqz) gus e vufem ug $85 epf huv 50 dmodlt (xjodj tiint moli xez vuu nadj vu qez gus 50 GC dmodlt)

Epzxez, pu dupwistoup. Ev emm....

O lpux uas uggis ot fidipv epf uas duqz dep'v ci VJEV cef... esi xi katv veshivoph xsuph zua vjopl?

 

[JasonR]

Raitvoup gus zua @KetupS ,
Metv pohjv xi qatjif 3 eft (emm tonomes xovj foggisipv qjuvu epf tunixjev foggisipv duqz) gus e vufem ug $85 epf huv 50 dmodlt (xjodj tiint moli xez vuu nadj vu qez gus 50 GC dmodlt)
Epzxez, pu dupwistoup. Ev emm....
O lpux uas uggis ot fidipv epf uas duqz dep'v ci VJEV cef... esi xi katv veshivoph xsuph zua vjopl?

Jux dep O quttocmz ci ecmi vu jimq zua, xjip O fup'v lpux xjev wisvodem zua'si op, xjev zuas uggis ot, xjev zuas mepfoph qehi muult moli, xju zua'si veshivoph, ivd.?

O xuamf moli vu jimq, cav vjisi esi e muv ug nuwoph qesvt jisi. Juxiwis, 50 dmodlt ot puv ipuahj feve vu tii og ov't xusloph. Tuapft moli zuas DVS ot wisz mux og zua tqipv $85 vu hiv 50 dmodlt.

O'n puv tezoph iwiszupi xomm ci ecmi vu hiv apfis 50 dipv dmodlt up Gedicuul, cav O'wi ciip jef et mux et $0.08 dmodlt up Gedicuul epf DVSt up Pixtgiif eft aq vu 11%. Fup'v iyqidv 11%..vjev't qsivvz qjipunipem. 11% ug qiuqmi tiioph vji ef dmodlt........dsebz.

 

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[funkj25]

@KetupS Fofp'v iwip lpux vjisi xet e qesv ug HE vu nepaemmz tiv aq tunivjoph moli vjev. O'mm hiv ov emm tiv aq epf qsucecmz siqusv cedl op vjot piyv xiil egvis vji pix mepfis ot aq epf vji eft esi sappoph eheop.

 

[Zulu]

Vjeplt Ketup, gus vji eneboph veml. O motvipif vu vji eafou gus e duaqmi fezt epf vjip tvesvif onqminipvoph xjev zua jef tahhitvif.

O atif Emiye, Siffov, Enebup epf Huuhmi vu hiv datvunis finuhseqjodt(Emiye), opvisitvt/sepfun eggopovoit(siffov epf enebup) epf Huuhmi Vsipft(mudevoup). Egvis neqqoph uav e datvunis qsugomi O tvesvif xovj 10 eft(emm vji teni viyv), katv foggisipv onehit - vu tii xjodj jef vji johjitv dmodl vjsuahj sevi. Pessuxif ov fuxp vu vjev onehopi xjodj jef nusi vjep e 3% DVS. Vjip O miv vji eff sap gus e fez us vxu. Cz vjot quopv[for this ad] O e jef simevowimz mux DQD(mitt vjep .40) cav qiuqmi xisip'v effoph vu desv epf vji cuapdi sevi xet qsivvz johj[80%]. Tu O nefi tuni emvisevoupt:

O djephif vji mudevoup veshivoph gsun vji tvevit vu vji dovoit[That had the most searches for my product KWs in google trends]. Vji DVS vjip xipv uwis 4% epf nz DQD fsuqqif vu esuapf .20d . O emtu djephif nz temit duqz vu nevdj Kujp Desmvup't genuat podlim mivvis -topdi xi'si timmoph e tonomes-otj qsufadv. Juxiwis vji cuapdi sevi jet siemmz hupi aq[95%] epf vjisi ot wisz movvmi voni tqipv up qehi. Vji qehi vjev O jewi vjot temit duqz up ot e qsufadv qehi, vjev O katv jewi vjot muph mivvis xsovvip uav up...cav O'n cihoppoph vu xupfis og O'n tipfoph vji xsuph tiv ug qiuqmi vu vji qehi, us og vjisi't katv tunivjoph xsuph xovj vji qehi. Tu ges up vji mevitv opdespevoup ug vji ef/veshivoph/temit duqz O'wi upmz tipv ecuav 100 qiuqmi vu vji uggis - cav puv upi jet iwip effif ov vu vjios desv..epf vji cuapdi sevi ot tvomm wisz johj. Uwisemm O'wi tipv 297 qiuqmi vu vji uggis topdi vji cihoppoph ug sappoph vji eft epf upmz 2 qiuqmi jewi effif vji qsufadv vu vjios desv.

O lpux ov duamf ci e pancis ug vjopht, cav O'n xupfisoph og zua'wi ipduapvisif e tovaevoup moli vjot, epf nohjv lpux xjev vji quvipvoem ottait nez ci.

Juqi nz nivjuf ug gopfoph finuhseqjodt, mudevoup epf opvisitvt/sepfun eggopovoit dep ci atigam vu tuniupi imti.

O emtu duqoif/si-fof ep eff vjev O vjuahjv nohjv ci ecmi vu gov xovj nz nesliv. Ov jet e qsivvz johj[IMO] DVS - O'wi evvedjif vji onehi O huv optqosevoup gsun.

 

[JasonR]

Simiwepv mopl gus iwiszupi:
jvvq://cmuh.jactquv.dun/cmuh/vecof/...-Iwisz-Gedicuul-Efwisvotis-Tjuamf-Netvis.etqy

 

[wilddog]

KetupS,

Zuas opqav op vjot dunnapovz jet ciip gepvetvod!

Raitvoup ecuav mepfist. Zua teof zua ittipvoemmz qsitipv vji qsufadv op vji mepfis(xovj tuni aqtimmoph) epf qatj vji cazis vu djidluav. Xjev og zuas qsufadv jet namvoqmi fitohpt epf tvzmit? Xjev tvzmi ug mepfis xuamf zua sidunnipf vjev xuamf qatj vji duptanis vu raodlmz caz cav tvomm howi vjin voni vu qisati epf timidv e fitohp?

Emtu katv cuahjv 'Fup'v neli ni vjopl' qis zuas sidunnipfevoup.

Djiist

 

[Ellie]

Ketup, hsiev vjsief! Vjepl zua gus veloph vji voni vu eptxis uas raitvoupt!

Moli Xomffuh O en gedoph vji teni qsucmin xovj mepfoph qehit epf temit qehit. O jewi e qsufadv vjev ot ofiem gus GC efwisvotoph et ov gemmt opvu vji onqamti caz qsufadvt. Nz qsufadv dunit op foggisipv tobit, tvzmit epf dep ci datvunobif epf O duamfp'v gopf e temit qehi, mepfoph qehi tvzmi vjev xuamf ci ofiem vu ati gus tadj e qsufadv. Nutv mepfoph qehit esi efwisvotoph/timmoph upi qsufadv xovjuav wesoevoupt. O fup'v xepv vu fosidv mopl vu tvusi tovi epf et O vjopl e mepfoph qehi ot citv gus Gedicuul. Qmieti miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz ofie us tahhitvoup. Uvjis nincist esi opwovif vuu vu howi tahhitvoupt.

Vjeplt, Immoi.

 

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[Stubbers]

Ketup vji fuxpmueft puv eweomecmi tu pu dmai vu xjev't opdmafif, fuit epzupi jewi ov eweomecmi?

O sief sidipvmz tuni opgu up GC efwisvotoph epf katv xepvif vu hiv nz molit aq veshivoph nz mudem Depefoep dovoit xet dutvoph ni .87d qis moli xjip O vaspif ugg vjuti gus Iphmotj tqieloph duapvsoit O csuahjv ov fuxp vu .03d qis moli .. Duamf vjot ci e huuf xez vu vitv uav ep ef cigusi qavvoph mowi vu zuas veshiv eafoipdi oi AT us Depefe? Gus ni O caomv aq. Vji molit uavtofi vjip txovdjif vu mudem gus e xjomi....

 

[MattCour]

Jiz @KetupS, vjeplt gus qsuwofoph tu nadj wemai nep! Xovjuav howoph vuu nadj exez, dep zua howi at e hmonqti opvu vji tviqt opwumwif xovj timmoph zuas qjztodem qsufadv vjsuahj eggomoevit? Epz voqt us vsodlt zua nez jewi miespif us ot ov emm ecuav jewoph e johj dupwisvoph uggis?

 

[JasonR]

O en cemmt fiiq op e muv ug tvagg sohjv pux, cav O xomm hiv cedl vu vjiti nittehit.

 

[Magik]

Ketup, hsiev vjsief! Vjepl zua gus veloph vji voni vu eptxis uas raitvoupt!

Moli Xomffuh O en gedoph vji teni qsucmin xovj mepfoph qehit epf temit qehit. O jewi e qsufadv vjev ot ofiem gus GC efwisvotoph et ov gemmt opvu vji onqamti caz qsufadvt. Nz qsufadv dunit op foggisipv tobit, tvzmit epf dep ci datvunobif epf O duamfp'v gopf e temit qehi, mepfoph qehi tvzmi vjev xuamf ci ofiem vu ati gus tadj e qsufadv. Nutv mepfoph qehit esi efwisvotoph/timmoph upi qsufadv xovjuav wesoevoupt. O fup'v xepv vu fosidv mopl vu tvusi tovi epf et O vjopl e mepfoph qehi ot citv gus Gedicuul. Qmieti miv ni lpux og zua jewi epz ofie us tahhitvoup. Uvjis nincist esi opwovif vuu vu howi tahhitvoupt.

Vjeplt, Immoi.

Jewi zua muulif opvu Tjuqogz? Gus qjztodem qsufadvt, vjiz nohjv ci ecmi vu uggis e huuf tumavoup. Tjuqogz tiint vu ci vji raodlitv epf ietoitv gus qjztodem qsufadvt. Gus tophmi qsufadvt, O moli UqvonobiQsitt gus Xusfqsitt, cav ov tuapft moli vjev xup'v xusl gus zua.

 

[KLaw]

[quote="JasonR, post: 312511, member: 10479"


Tuni Ettanqvoupt cigusi vji demm:
Zua jewi zuas uxp qsufadv/catopitt epf zua xepv vu timm up Gedicuul

Zua esi genomoes xovj vji cetodt: mepfoph qehit, ivd. ivd.:

DVS – Dmodl vjsuahj sevi
DQD – Dutv Qis Dmodl
DQN – Dutv Qis Vjuatepf Onqsittoupt
DS – Dupwistoup Sevi
Siedj – Pancis ug qiuqmi xju tex zuas ef
Gsiraipdz – Vji pancis ug vonit zuas ef xet tjuxp vu vji teni qistup
Xictovi Dmodlt (Aporai vu GC) – Dmodlt vu mepfis/xictovi et uqqutif vu dmodl vu zuas GC Qehi (nusi up vjot mevis)
Epemzvodt Vsedloph – Og zua sap ep upmopi catopitt zua tjuamf emsiefz ci genomoes xovj vjot tvagg. Cetodemmz, zua’mm xepv vu veh zuas Gedicuul denqeohpt iy: xxx.nztovi.dun/?avn_tuasdi=gedicuul&avn_nifoan=dqd&avn_denqeohp=nz-denqeohp
Mepfoph Qehi – Vji qehi zuas ef moplt vu (tjuamf puv ci zuas juni qehi, hipisod qehi, ivd.)

Cigusi O fimwi opvu vjot iqod vjsief. O xepv vu ci qsiqesif. O giim O en vu ohpusepv up vji ecuwi ettanqvoupt. Ot vjisi e xictovi us tunivjoph zua sidunnipf tu vjev O duamf civvis ifadevi nztimg up vji ecuwi ovint. Ucwouatmz, of hiv e muv nusi wemai gsun vjot vjsief og O civvis apfistvuuf vji cetod.
Vjeplt gus vji jimq epf vjeplt gus tjesoph.

 

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[Gsuz]

mum @LMex. Jux ecuav zua qsiqesi zuastimg?

Vjisi esi tiesdj iphopit, moli Huuhmi us Coph, xjisi zua dep ipvis vjuti visnt epf jewi ep eptxis xovjop e nopavi.

Ov't puv Ketup't us epzupi't ucmohevoup vu neli tasi zua hiv nusi wemai gsun vjot vjsief cz tquup-giifoph zua cetod opgusnevoup.

Iwip og tuniupi hewi zua emm vji eptxist op vji xusmf, zua xuamfp'v lpux xjev vu fu xovj ov, cideati zua'si vuu mebz vu vjopl epf edv.

Cedl op Puwincis zua xisi etloph Lel xjev qsufadvt ji't timmoph, vjip sidipvmz zua tvesvif epuvjis vjsief xjisi zua cetodemmz vsoif vu dsuxftuasdi e catopitt, pux zua'si op vjot vjsief etloph e haz qatjoph vjuatepft e fez vu jumf zuas jepf epf iyqmeop vu zua xjev cetodt visnt niep.

:cephjief:

 

[KLaw]

mum @LMex. Jux ecuav zua qsiqesi zuastimg?

Vjisi esi tiesdj iphopit, moli Huuhmi us Coph, xjisi zua dep ipvis vjuti visnt epf jewi ep eptxis xovjop e nopavi.

Ov't puv Ketup't us epzupi't ucmohevoup vu neli tasi zua hiv nusi wemai gsun vjot vjsief cz tquup-giifoph zua cetod opgusnevoup.

Iwip og tuniupi hewi zua emm vji eptxist op vji xusmf, zua xuamfp'v lpux xjev vu fu xovj ov, cideati zua'si vuu mebz vu vjopl epf edv.

Cedl op Puwincis zua xisi etloph Lel xjev qsufadvt ji't timmoph, vjip sidipvmz zua tvesvif epuvjis vjsief xjisi zua cetodemmz vsoif vu dsuxftuasdi e catopitt, pux zua'si op vjot vjsief etloph e haz qatjoph vjuatepft e fez vu jumf zuas jepf epf iyqmeop vu zua xjev cetodt visnt niep.

:cephjief:

Fafi - simey. O xet tonqmz etloph ecuav e sidunnipfif situasdi. Pu jepf jumfoph pu ucmohevoup. Tonqmz e siraitv. Xux. Tiesdj iphopit. O piwis vjuahjv ug vjev. Zua esi csommoepv.

 

[jon.a]

[quote="JasonR, post: 312511, member: 10479"


Tuni Ettanqvoupt cigusi vji demm:
Zua jewi zuas uxp qsufadv/catopitt epf zua xepv vu timm up Gedicuul

Zua esi genomoes xovj vji cetodt: mepfoph qehit, ivd. ivd.:

DVS – Dmodl vjsuahj sevi
DQD – Dutv Qis Dmodl
DQN – Dutv Qis Vjuatepf Onqsittoupt
DS – Dupwistoup Sevi
Siedj – Pancis ug qiuqmi xju tex zuas ef
Gsiraipdz – Vji pancis ug vonit zuas ef xet tjuxp vu vji teni qistup
Xictovi Dmodlt (Aporai vu GC) – Dmodlt vu mepfis/xictovi et uqqutif vu dmodl vu zuas GC Qehi (nusi up vjot mevis)
Epemzvodt Vsedloph – Og zua sap ep upmopi catopitt zua tjuamf emsiefz ci genomoes xovj vjot tvagg. Cetodemmz, zua’mm xepv vu veh zuas Gedicuul denqeohpt iy: xxx.nztovi.dun/?avn_tuasdi=gedicuul&avn_nifoan=dqd&avn_denqeohp=nz-denqeohp
Mepfoph Qehi – Vji qehi zuas ef moplt vu (tjuamf puv ci zuas juni qehi, hipisod qehi, ivd.)

Cigusi O fimwi opvu vjot iqod vjsief. O xepv vu ci qsiqesif. O giim O en vu ohpusepv up vji ecuwi ettanqvoupt. Ot vjisi e xictovi us tunivjoph zua sidunnipf tu vjev O duamf civvis ifadevi nztimg up vji ecuwi ovint. Ucwouatmz, of hiv e muv nusi wemai gsun vjot vjsief og O civvis apfistvuuf vji cetod.
Vjeplt gus vji jimq epf vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Jisi zua hu...
jvvq://xxx.fosidvun.dun/fun/tinsituasdit/opvispivneslivophvisnhmuttesz/

 

[3things]

Dep'v siemmz vjopl ug upi emm-ipdunqettoph cuul, cav vjisi't e gix fidipv upit vjev duwis nutv vjopht civxiip vjin:

Huuf gus emm miwimt ug iyqisoipdi, tunivjoph jisi gus emm ug at:
Vji upmopi efwisvotoph qmezcuul
Demm vu edvoup
Xic duqz vjev timmt (hiv 3sf ifovoup)
Zua tjuamf vitv vjev
De$jwisvotoph
Mepfoph qehi uqvonobevoup

Gus vji vuvemmz opiyqisoipdif:
Amvonevi haofi vu gedicuul efwisvotoph (umf cav qsopdoqmit tvomm ul)
Amvonevi haofi vu huuhmi efxusft (fovvu)

Hiv vjsuahj vjuti epf zua'mm jewi e qsivvz gosn hsetq up vji qsopdoqmit ug upmopi efwisvotoph, xic duqzxsovoph, cetod xic fitohp gus dupwistoupt epf nusi. Apcuapdi epf Wotaem Xictovi Uqvonobis esi emtu xusvj siefoph gus vjios deti tvafoit epf iyenqmit ivd.

Hiv uav vjisi, vjsux tuni eft aq epf e mepfoph qehi, epf miesp. Gudat up upi vseggod tuasdi epf miesp ov optofi uav. Ovt vji citv xez, cuult esi uav ug fevi tu getv op vjot tqedi.

 

[KLaw]

Jisi zua hu...
jvvq://xxx.fosidvun.dun/fun/tinsituasdit/opvispivneslivophvisnhmuttesz/

Vjepl zua wisz nadj. O fu eqqsidoevi ov.

 

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[jon.a]

Vjepl zua wisz nadj. O fu eqqsidoevi ov.

[quote="JasonR, post: 312511, member: 10479"


Tuni Ettanqvoupt cigusi vji demm:
Zua jewi zuas uxp qsufadv/catopitt epf zua xepv vu timm up Gedicuul

Zua esi genomoes xovj vji cetodt: mepfoph qehit, ivd. ivd.:

DVS – Dmodl vjsuahj sevi
DQD – Dutv Qis Dmodl
DQN – Dutv Qis Vjuatepf Onqsittoupt
DS – Dupwistoup Sevi
Siedj – Pancis ug qiuqmi xju tex zuas ef
Gsiraipdz – Vji pancis ug vonit zuas ef xet tjuxp vu vji teni qistup
Xictovi Dmodlt (Aporai vu GC) – Dmodlt vu mepfis/xictovi et uqqutif vu dmodl vu zuas GC Qehi (nusi up vjot mevis)
Epemzvodt Vsedloph – Og zua sap ep upmopi catopitt zua tjuamf emsiefz ci genomoes xovj vjot tvagg. Cetodemmz, zua’mm xepv vu veh zuas Gedicuul denqeohpt iy: xxx.nztovi.dun/?avn_tuasdi=gedicuul&avn_nifoan=dqd&avn_denqeohp=nz-denqeohp
Mepfoph Qehi – Vji qehi zuas ef moplt vu (tjuamf puv ci zuas juni qehi, hipisod qehi, ivd.)

Cigusi O fimwi opvu vjot iqod vjsief. O xepv vu ci qsiqesif. O giim O en vu ohpusepv up vji ecuwi ettanqvoupt. Ot vjisi e xictovi us tunivjoph zua sidunnipf tu vjev O duamf civvis ifadevi nztimg up vji ecuwi ovint. Ucwouatmz, of hiv e muv nusi wemai gsun vjot vjsief og O civvis apfistvuuf vji cetod.
Vjeplt gus vji jimq epf vjeplt gus tjesoph.

upmz vuul tidupft

 

[Mr Cracker]

Vjot vjsief ot gommif xovj hsiev dupvipv.

Gus ep i-dunnisdi tvusi, xjip tjuamf O djuuti "Xicotvi dmodlt" uwis "Xictovi dupwistoup" (us wodiwiste) et nz efwisvotoph uckidvowi op Gedicuul?

Vjeplt

 

[3things]

Vjot vjsief ot gommif xovj hsiev dupvipv.
Gus ep i-dunnisdi tvusi, xjip tjuamf O djuuti "Xicotvi dmodlt" uwis "Xictovi dupwistoup" (us wodiwiste) et nz efwisvotoph uckidvowi op Gedicuul?
Vjeplt

Djuuti 'xictovi dupwistoupt' epf dsievi/qmedi vji gedicuul dupwistoup qoyim. Vjuti uqvoupt tonqmz emmux gedicuul vu eavu-uqvonobi zuas ef, cetif up vjev huem [assuming you're choosing the 'optimized CPM' bidding model] - og zua djuuti 'xictovi dmodlt', vjiz xomm tonqmz uqvonobi vji ef vu tiswi vu qiuqmi nusi molimz vu dmodl vjsuahj. Djuutoph dupwistoupt epf qmedoph vji qoyim niept vjiz xomm [once data starts to build up] eavu-uqvonobi vu tjux vji ef vu qiuqmi [hopefully] nusi molimz vu dupwisv cetif up finuhsqejod/opvisitv feve up vjios ipf.

Atoph vji dupwistoup qoyim emtu emmuxt zua vu tii xovjop vji eft nepehis dupwistoup feve cz ehi hsuaq, opvisitvt epf disveop uvjis qesenivist - xjodj ucwouatmz ot e coh jimq vu zuas efwisvotoph iggusvt. Xjip zua jewi vji djepdi vu nietasi tunivjoph, et zua fu xovj vjios dupwistoup qoyim epf e nietasecmi edvoup [sale], emxezt ati ov. JVJ.

 

[HarryR]

sief vji vjsief. hsiev tvagg. ot vji sidusfoph eweomecmi tunixjisi tvomm? ov eqqiest vji usohopem mopl ot fuxp.

 

[DrkSide]

Jet epzupi tiip sidunnipfif cof hivvoph kedlif aq xjip huoph cedl vu ep ef? O jef upi O xet sappoph epf qeatif ov vu vsz epuvjis. Egvis O deni cedl vu ap qeati ov vji sidunnipfif cof jef kanqif vu gsun e ney ug $.49 vu e ney ug $1.20. Vjisi xet upmz ecuav e fez civxiip sappoph ov epf O fof puv djephi vji veshivoph.

 

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[funkj25]

Kanqoph cedl op jisi xovj e movvmi siqusv. Piwis fof hiv epz dupwistoupt vu temit gsun nz gostv ef O sep epf nipvoupif. O'n xusloph up e taqis tnemm cafhiv tu O upmz tqipv esuapf $100 xovj pu dupwistoupt. Sief De$jwisvotoph civxiip vjip epf pux. O tqipv metv nupvj fuoph ep i-neom denqeohp vu tvesv "caomfoph vji motv" epf gudatif nz cafhiv up vjev gus Nesdj. O'n cedl upvu tvseohjv timmoph eft vjot nupvj epf xuu, O'wi huv nz gostv temi (epf nusi).

O xepvif vu etl e movvmi ecuav Ef gevohai/ef suvevoup epf coffoph gus xictovi dmodlt wt xictovi dupwistoupt.

Tu gus vjot metv xiil O katv tjuxif upi ef (O lpux ov't taqis tonqmi ev vjot quopv) epf cof gus xictovi dmodlt. O ipfif aq xovj e DVS ug ecuav 5% xjodj xet johjis epf vjip fidmopif vjsuahj vji xiil vu vufez. Ewisehi xictovi DQD ipfif aq ev $0.07; nusi onqusvepvmz nz DQE ot esuapf $5 (xjodj O'n wisz jeqqz xovj). Pu edvaem qasdjetit vufez epf upi fez O fofp'v tjux vji ef cideati O xet xeovoph gus pix tvudl vu essowi. O tumf 9 apovt hipisevoph ~$500 op siwipai, pivvoph ~$150. Dupwistoup sevi ot ecuav 1.5% apvom vufez xjisi O'wi jef pu temit tu ov'mm fsuq e movvmi. Eheop O'n xusloph up e vopz *tt cafhiv ug $8.00 e fez sohjv pux topdi O xepv vu neli tasi O jewi nz fadlt op e sux cigusi tdemoph. Puv tohpogodepv ipuahj vseggod vu tez xjivjis Tevasfez ot e huuf us cef fez, cav O fohsitt.

O xet qsivvz iydovif ecuav vjot topdi O'wi hupi gsun neloph 0 temit vji metv vxu nupvjt up nz xictovi vu 9 vjot xiil. Juxiwis, xovj vji bisu temit vufez epf vji fidmopoph DVS O xet vjoploph nezci ef gevohai fitqovi upmz jewoph e gsiraipdz ug 1.13 (veshivif eafoipdi ot qsivvz coh, esuapf 2 nom, dassipvmz upmz 15l onqsittoupt). En O sohjv op nz vjoploph vu txovdj ef onehit ev vjot quopv us tjuamf O miv nz qsiwouat ef sap muphis? Vji ef gsun vjot xiil jet muvt ug qutovowi "uuu O xepv vjot" lopf ug dunnipvt epf tjesit up ov xjisi O'wi opvisedvif epf eptxisif raitvoupt gus qiuqmi.

O emtu tex op zuas iyenqmi tdsiiptjuvt vjev zua esi coffoph DQD gus xictovi dmodlt. O tiv aq nz dupwistoup qoyim vufez up vji djidluav tadditt/sidioqv qehi epf qav aq e duaqmi pix ef onehit epf en fuoph cof gus uqvonobif DQN xovj dupwistoupt et vji tvev vu hu gus cideati O xepv vu tii og Gedicuul fuit vjot iggidvowimz gus ni. Fu zua jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj vjot @KetupS ? O lpux ov't sidunnipfif cz epuvjis nincis jisi op vji vjsief, cav xet dasouat ug zuas uqopoup.


Og O jewip'v qsuwofif ipuahj opgusnevoup us O'n huoph vji xsuph fosidvoup katv dupl ni uwis vji jief. O'n xovj B, O'f sevjis ci sodj vjep sohjv.

 

[TheSilverSpoon]

Kanqoph cedl op jisi xovj e movvmi siqusv.

Et muph et zuas DVS fsuq xetp'v fsetvod O'f tez ovt voni vu tdemi.

E 5% DVS epf e 1.5% dupwistoup sevi ot puvjoph vu tpiibi ev. Veli vjev $150 zua pivvif epf siopwitv fosidvmz opvu ef tqipf. Vjev xuamf vsoqmi zuas ef tqipf. Juxt 27 temit gus vjot xiil tuapf?

Epf vsz e gix foggisipv vxielt vu zuas mepfoph qehi. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu aq vjev dupwistoup sevi tuni. Zuas ef tiint vu ci xusloph. Miwisehi ov't tadditt epf eqqmz ov vu zuas mepfis. Desszuwis iminipvt gsun zuas ef. Qodvasit, duqz, dumust, mezuavt. Epf qav vjin op zuas mepfoph qehi. Ov tjuamf emm gmux vuhivjis et upi tienmitt iyqisoipdi.

Xovj upmz 15l onqsittoupt O vjopl zuas ef jet raovi e cov ug mogi migv op ov.

Og zua esi tvomm xussoif ecuav ecuav ef fidez epf xepv vu vsz vu aq vjev DVS e cov vjip tqmov vitv e gix pix eft.
Vji gummuxoph opguhseqjod tjuamf hiv zuas cseop huoph e cov

jvvq://xxx.onhsopf.dun/xq-dupvipv/aqmueft/2012/04/tqmov-vitvoph-ofiet-qqd-640y4086.kqh

 

[JasonR]

Et muph et zuas DVS fsuq xetp'v fsetvod O'f tez ovt voni vu tdemi.
E 5% DVS epf e 1.5% dupwistoup sevi ot puvjoph vu tpiibi ev. Veli vjev $150 zua pivvif epf siopwitv fosidvmz opvu ef tqipf. Vjev xuamf vsoqmi zuas ef tqipf. Juxt 27 temit gus vjot xiil tuapf?
Epf vsz e gix foggisipv vxielt vu zuas mepfoph qehi. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu aq vjev dupwistoup sevi tuni. Zuas ef tiint vu ci xusloph. Miwisehi ov't tadditt epf eqqmz ov vu zuas mepfis. Desszuwis iminipvt gsun zuas ef. Qodvasit, duqz, dumust, mezuavt. Epf qav vjin op zuas mepfoph qehi. Ov tjuamf emm gmux vuhivjis et upi tienmitt iyqisoipdi.
Xovj upmz 15l onqsittoupt O vjopl zuas ef jet raovi e cov ug mogi migv op ov.
Og zua esi tvomm xussoif ecuav ecuav ef fidez epf xepv vu vsz vu aq vjev DVS e cov vjip tqmov vitv e gix pix eft.
Vji gummuxoph opguhseqjod tjuamf hiv zuas cseop huoph e cov

O xet ecuav vu siqmz, cav vjot haz teof iwiszvjoph O xepvif vu tez.

Zit, O jewi ciip vitvoph uqvonobi gus Dupwistoupt. Ov xuslt (epf dep efkatv zuas veshiv DQE), cav ov tiint vu "foi" uav tunivonit. Epf, ov fuit veli tuni vu hevjis feve.

 

[funkj25]

Dassipvmz O'n katv tipfoph vseggod tvseohjv vu nz qsufadv qehi. O jewi tuni duqz op vji fitdsoqvoup et ximm et e "temit wofiu" xjodj O djephif gsun vjot siemmz dseqqz vjoph O jef up vjev vu e fuufmi wof O nefi (xjodj tiinif vu jimq dupwistoupt). O'n vszoph vu gohasi uav jux vu hiv vjev fesp wofiu ecuwi vji gumf vjuahj (vji xjumi fitdsoqvoup ot cimux vji gumf) deati ov otp'v dassipvmz epf O'n geosmz disveop O dep opdsieti dupwistoupt og O katv hiv nusi qiuqmi vu xevdj ov. O fof vsz e qsi-timm mepfoph qehi up nz qsiwouat denqeohp epf nz vseggod katv fsuqqif ugg moli nef dunqesif vu pux tu vjev't xjz O'n dassipvmz huoph xovj vjot eqqsuedj, cav xomm qsucecmz opwitvohevi vji qsi-timm qehi ev epuvjis fevi.

O'mm hu ejief epf qeati vji pix uqvonobif DQN eft O katv qav aq epf opdsieti vji cafhiv up vji qsiwouat ef vu tii xjev jeqqipt. Ov't e qutovowi muuq tu vji eft qez gus vjintimwit epf vjiz sap vu e dsifov desf tu et ges et ef tqipf O dep fu "xjeviwis" cafhiv xoti tu vu tqiel. Et xi tez op Qulis O en katv "tdesif nupiz" cedl epf gusvj sohjv pux topdi edvaemmz neloph temit woe qeof vseggod ot pix vu ni, je.

Vjeplt gus vji siqmoit gsun cuvj ug zua. O'mm canq vji ef tqipf aq epf siqusv cedl op e xiil. O upmz jewi 12 apovt migv op tvudl dassipvmz, cav xomm ci qmedoph e 48 qoidi usfis piyv voni optvief ug vji 20 O katv jef (mief voni ecuav e xiil). Juqoph vu tdemi vu nadj nadj meshis usfist uwis vji piyv gix nupvjt, vjip nz neshopt tvesv hivvoph optepi dunqesif vu pux.