I just dropped out of college, homeless and broke. Advice!!!

[Chazmania]

Ok students here's your Common Sense 101 final exam:




Option A: Go to school and listen to the instructors, even if they aren't fastlaners, and have shelter, food and then the worst thing is you end up with a college degree, with food in your belly and a roof over your head...

(or)

Option B: quit school immediately and be unemployable in a distant country, broke, cut off and F*cking homeless living under a bridge...





Please take as much time as you need to think through this problem carefully.

 

[ApparentHorizon]

i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world"

They are preparing you for the real world. One where you hone a skill and exchange your time for money. Just because it's not your ideal world, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The biggest lie is the one you told yourself where you thought you were ready for the real world.

BUT...

You have no choice now.

You have to succeed.

You're at rock bottom, or close to it. So the only direction you have left to go, is up.

Like Elon Musk, figure out what the minimum amount of money you need to live where you are and get that. Then use the rest of your time finding a problem to solve.

 

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[JAJT]

Well this sounds like it might end up being a great life lesson in "thinking before acting".

In all seriousness - you need to figure out what your legal options are here and decide from those choices. And I don't mean "ask the internet what your options are". I mean go talk to a professional about what your legal options are here. Someone paid to give you proper, real, legal advice.

Once you know what you CAN do, you can decide what you WANT to do from those choices.

 

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[BellaPippin]

i'm really just freaking confused

my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food

There's your answer.


What were you thinking?? That you can drop by Walgreens and get a Green Card??


If it's possible go back, regroup and come up with a plan. Yes, professors can sound mediocre that's why your critical thinking skills filter out the good in what they're teaching and MEANWHILE you get something going on for you. ESPECIALLY in your situation. Escaping the system doesn't mean be reckless! Have a plan.

 

[458]

There's always exceptions. Go back to school brah.

 

[mrarcher]

I'm not sure how writing a thread works so sorry if i mess up anything. I'm 21, i dropped out and so my parents cut me off. i'm an international student so i can't just get a job otherwise i'd get deported, i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world" when more than half the professors haven't been in the real world since their teaching career. i'm really just freaking confused since my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food. if there's anyone whose been through this, your advice will be greatly appreciated.

You couldn't have stuck at it until you got your visa?

 

[Scot]

Hate not giving constructive advice, but you probably should have thought of these things before dropping out of school. At the very least, you didn't have to go to class and could have taken till the end of the semester, living in the dorm, until you needed to take action.

Agreed with @JAJT, you need to figure out what your legal options are. In the meantime, maybe look into saying sorry to your college administration at least so you have a place to sleep until the semester ends.

There's this stupid romanticized notion out there that you have to eat ramen noodles and sleep in your car to succeed in business. You don't.

Also, I feel like @MJ DeMarco is trolling us. Is this a test?? Haha

 

[arfadugus]

"Ready, Fire, Aim!"

 

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[Vigilante]

that's too savage...

It's not, really. From his OP, he made a decision that made him homeless and broke.

It's a serious message to our young poster to pull his head out of his a$$.

There's almost zero advice we can lend to someone that chose that path other than GO BACK.

Stabilize and then move forward. Life can wait.

 

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[mrarcher]

I wish my parents "held me hostage" by paying for me to study in the states plus living expenses. It is such a nightmare to immigrate there a chance like that is an amazing thing to have.

I've been homeless a few times.

Personally, I like being backed up against the wall. I think that's when strong people really shine. Succeed or starve has a way of...pushing people.

Seeing as the "go back to school" option has been hit on many times I will provide another viable option.

First I would look into the laws and see what options you have there.

This may seem counterproductive to the fastlane but it's an option.

Join the National Guard. Go infantry, assuming you don't get hurt or screw up you'll be home in about 15-20 weeks. Save all the money you make and use it to create a business when you return home. You'll also be made a citizen. You'll get benefits and you'll be able to proudly say you are an American because you earned it. I've always highly respected foreigners who became citizens through service.

- Benefits
- Food and shelter provided free of charge
- You'll be able to save about $7k- $10k because everything you need is provided
- Immediate citizenship. (Which you earned and looks really good)
- Depending on how you look at it. From a time perspective you'd spend 15-20 weeks of your time vs years of your time at college (which you've stated you don't like)

Obviously this option has a few drawbacks...deployments at this time are very unlikely and rare for the National Guard. But you can never rule them out and must be mentally prepared for the possibility. Presidential elections are also coming up, this may or may not have a significant influence on that.

You'd have to give up 2 days a month and 2 weeks every summer for a few years (depending on your contract)

You'd have to deal with all the other millitary drama and bs.

I've been in the National Guard over 2 years now. While I will admit this isn't always...pleasant. I have never regretted the decision to join and have always been proud.

I would take a good long hard look at how badly you do not want to be in college. Depending on your circumstances and personality, this may be a really good option for you.

Note: To my understanding you must have a green card to do this.

EDIT:

Here is my last piece of advice for you. I believe the greatest gift humans have is the gift of freewill and choice. We are the only species on earth that can say "I don't like this" and then change it. When you allow other people to influence or even worse, make decisions for you then that is one of the worst things you can do in my opinion. Going to your parents and crying makes you (bluntly speaking) a b****. Your parents are essentially trying to force you (a grown man) to do something you do not want to do by holding you hostage financially. Stop depending on them for money. If you are always depending on your mommy and daddy for money then they will always have the ability to make your decisions. Do things for yourself.

You have a choice. Would you rather be deported than go to college (free?) or would you rather go to college than be deported.

At the end of the day do what YOU want to do because you want to do it, not because you are a "victim" to outside forces.

 

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[Mr4213]

I'm not sure how writing a thread works so sorry if i mess up anything. I'm 21, i dropped out and so my parents cut me off. i'm an international student so i can't just get a job otherwise i'd get deported, i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world" when more than half the professors haven't been in the real world since their teaching career. i'm really just freaking confused since my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food. if there's anyone whose been through this, your advice will be greatly appreciated.

I've been homeless a few times.

Personally, I like being backed up against the wall. I think that's when strong people really shine. Succeed or starve has a way of...pushing people.

Seeing as the "go back to school" option has been hit on many times I will provide another viable option.

First I would look into the laws and see what options you have there.

This may seem counterproductive to the fastlane but it's an option.

Join the National Guard. Go infantry, assuming you don't get hurt or screw up you'll be home in about 15-20 weeks. Save all the money you make and use it to create a business when you return home. You'll also be made a citizen. You'll get benefits and you'll be able to proudly say you are an American because you earned it. I've always highly respected foreigners who became citizens through service.

- Benefits
- Food and shelter provided free of charge
- You'll be able to save about $7k- $10k because everything you need is provided
- Immediate citizenship. (Which you earned and looks really good)
- Depending on how you look at it. From a time perspective you'd spend 15-20 weeks of your time vs years of your time at college (which you've stated you don't like)

Obviously this option has a few drawbacks...deployments at this time are very unlikely and rare for the National Guard. But you can never rule them out and must be mentally prepared for the possibility. Presidential elections are also coming up, this may or may not have a significant influence on that.

You'd have to give up 2 days a month and 2 weeks every summer for a few years (depending on your contract)

You'd have to deal with all the other millitary drama and bs.

I've been in the National Guard over 2 years now. While I will admit this isn't always...pleasant. I have never regretted the decision to join and have always been proud.

I would take a good long hard look at how badly you do not want to be in college. Depending on your circumstances and personality, this may be a really good option for you.

Note: To my understanding you must have a green card to do this.

EDIT:

Here is my last piece of advice for you. I believe the greatest gift humans have is the gift of freewill and choice. We are the only species on earth that can say "I don't like this" and then change it. When you allow other people to influence or even worse, make decisions for you then that is one of the worst things you can do in my opinion. Going to your parents and crying makes you (bluntly speaking) a b****. Your parents are essentially trying to force you (a grown man) to do something you do not want to do by holding you hostage financially. Stop depending on them for money. If you are always depending on your mommy and daddy for money then they will always have the ability to make your decisions. Do things for yourself.

You have a choice. Would you rather be deported than go to college (free?) or would you rather go to college than be deported.

At the end of the day do what YOU want to do because you want to do it, not because you are a "victim" to outside forces.

 

[Vigilante]

Over under on this being a drive by one and done post is such that nobody should bet against it.

Thread moved Fastlane--->Sidewalk

If I were you, I'd get yourself some cardboard and a marker:

 

[BellaPippin]

I can see his point. He makes a viable point. Take his advice if you see it as something you would rather. The knowledge you could gain though. Well thats priceless, in my opinion. Plus I know you can make things work for you. use ALL RESOURCES. Make better relationships with ppl. Homelessness is chosen. Not something that just happens. If you dont have any drive then you will always b miserable. with drive, homeless is just a word to scare ppl from their success. Unless the people that mention homelessness were not your friends to bgin with. Friends n fam (true friends n fam) will believe in your vision. not the fear of being homeless. the guy above has grwat points. but dont let the logic of his reality, his perception scare you. Thats why you are here, right ?

I see where you're going to. But hey, there is a difference in context when we talk about people "scaring" you into mediocrity and not following your dreams and an impulsive move that puts you in a hardship spot unnecessarily. He isn't a citizen/permanent resident: he can't work legally, he can't register a business, he can't file taxes, he doesn't have a SSN so forget about building credit...he doesn't even have a physical address now. Nobody is trying to be a party pooper here.

You can only get so far with an under the table gig and without a place to take a shower and sleep. Yes we have all heard about the Silvester Stallones of entrepreneurship where they're homeless and they hustle their way out of it but let's be sensible, why would you wanna put yourself through that when there is no need at all? Because you feel you're too good to listen to a lecture? He could start an online business on the comfort of his dorm room right now, enjoying a free meal probably already paid for by his parents, loans, scholarship (whatever, most likely not him), and eventually drop out, go back to his country, whatever he wants, with a fat wallet. He has between 1-4 years of a free ride to make it happen. Sucking up a lecture, homework and a test here and there is all he needs to do in exchange, it seems. It's not like he's sucking up a full-time retail job that sucks the life out of you because he has a family to support. He might be too young to put it in perspective but it makes me cringe a little, you know, wish I had it as hard, going to school full-time!

 

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[Soulrize]

Ok students here's your Common Sense 101 final exam:




Option A: Go to school and listen to the instructors, even if they aren't fastlaners, and have shelter, food and then the worst thing is you end up with a college degree, with food in your belly and a roof over your head...

(or)

Option B: quit school immediately and be unemployable in a distant country, broke, cut off and F*cking homeless living under a bridge...





Please take as much time as you need to think through this problem carefully.

I did exactly this option B. You will go back to school , you will do Option A and figure out life isn't fair.
You'll return a grown up because life isn't just your ideology , theres a reality that you are apart of wither you like it or not.
Spend some time in college figuring out what you want to do after besides working for someone, it buys you time before you enter the real world is how I looked at college. Read some books and never put yourself in a position where you will be homeless, ever.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

 

[Vigilante]

OP was last seen 45 minutes after he posted this. One and done.

 

[fanatis]

I'm not sure how writing a thread works so sorry if i mess up anything. I'm 21, i dropped out and so my parents cut me off. i'm an international student so i can't just get a job otherwise i'd get deported, i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world" when more than half the professors haven't been in the real world since their teaching career. i'm really just freaking confused since my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food. if there's anyone whose been through this, your advice will be greatly appreciated.

 

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[Chazmania]

Yeah you could absolutely hustle for 3-5 years and be employing your classmates - but you kinda should have some capacity to fill a need/solve a problem (..ya know - a viable business model...) before you go and make yourself homeless through some foolish act, and then come here looking for either a pat on the back for dropping out, or someone here to give you the *steps* of what to do.

But oh yeah.....just breathe (lol), you'll be ok.

 

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[luniac]

It's not, really. From his OP, he made a decision that made him homeless and broke.

It's a serious message to our young poster to pull his head out of his a$$.

There's almost zero advice we can lend to someone that chose that path other than GO BACK.

Stabilize and then move forward. Life can wait.

oh i agree completely but...
dat pic doe... lol...
u didn't give @theag a chance...

 

[townhaus]

I'm not sure how writing a thread works so sorry if i mess up anything. I'm 21, i dropped out and so my parents cut me off. i'm an international student so i can't just get a job otherwise i'd get deported, i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world" when more than half the professors haven't been in the real world since their teaching career. i'm really just freaking confused since my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food. if there's anyone whose been through this, your advice will be greatly appreciated.

I'd freelance as a high end escort

 

[mrarcher]

Why are you even here?

well , you have to really know what you want in life .

consider that you are already richer than most people who live on earth or who ever lived in human history.

i thought i wanted the rich lifestyle but the price is too high to pay and in the socialist country that is France , nearly 70 % of your wealth go to the state as an entrepreneur

entrepreneurs are punished for wanting to stand above the stupid crowd.

so why working hard anyway ? i don't want to feed the stupid crowd.

i want a stress free life. i am ready to live with basic confort if i have maximum freedom and peace of mind.

 

[luniac]

... and am not the OP

lmao i gotta stop skimming these threads.

 

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[Pilot35]

Is it just me or do I find it stupid that parents nowadays are threatening to cut off their kids financially just because they don't do as they say? In my opinion, this just fades their kids' respect for them. Seriously, who likes being told what to do all the time? Parents instead should sit down and ask their kids what they want to be and what they want to do, instead of shoving them with some typical Slowlane dogma like "get a degree because that's what you do".

 

[E-Sharp]

Phone your parents and apologize for being thoughtless and careless with their resources. Ask them for a loan - because you don't deserve a handout from them - and use the money for plane fare back to your home country. Before you do that, make sure you come up with an actual plan you'll present to them as to what you'll do to repay them and support yourself. Be realistic about it, because delivering pizzas or working as a busboy shouldn't be off the table right now. PAY BACK the loan. Then use this as a learning experience to grow some humility.

You say your parents cut you off, but I can't imagine that they're untroubled about their 21 year old kid being on his/her own in a foreign country without money or a work visa. They are probably quite worried about you, but I can't blame them for cutting you off.

 

[mrarcher]

Assuming you are in the USA you cannot start and work in your own company on a student visa. If you are caught you will be barred from entry into the united states for at least 10 years. Either go back to college (find another course even) or youll have to go back. If you overstay your visa or breach the terms you will royally screw yourself for the future even if you do make up a successful business.

 

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[luniac]

Over under on this being a drive by one and done post is such that nobody should bet against it.

Thread moved Fastlane--->Sidewalk

If I were you, I'd get yourself some cardboard and a marker:

that's too savage...

 

[luniac]

What do you mean by "life can wait"? Do you mean "bigger plans" aka fastlane-plans?

He means you need stability so you can properly focus on your goals.

It takes fulltime dedication to go fastlane, how the fuk do you expect to do it when you don't have solid ground to stand on and everything is crashing down around u.

Use your head, ur 21, a grown man. You can be naive, but don't be stupid.

 

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[Greg R]

"Is this the condition that I feared"~ Seneca

Many top performers (like Tim Ferris) and those who study stoicism, force themselves into poverty once a year.

I'm not sure if this has a name, but in your case the lesson is simple:

Being broke, homeless, and out of college is not that bad.

It all comes down to your narrative.

Change your narrative and change your process.

Work diligently to get back on your feet and things will fall into place.

I you don't want to change, take a quote from MJ.

"Keep doing what you are doing and see if that gets you to where you want to go."

Good luck.

EDIT: Thank you mod for changing the thread tag and title!

 

[Mikkel]

OP was last seen 45 minutes after he posted this. One and done.

He did take quite a verbal beating for his actions. Hopefully he comes back, there is defiantly some good advice he can take from this thread.

 

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[Raoul Duke]

I'm not sure how writing a thread works so sorry if i mess up anything. I'm 21, i dropped out and so my parents cut me off. i'm an international student so i can't just get a job otherwise i'd get deported, i just thought the school system was feeding me lies "preparing me for the real world" when more than half the professors haven't been in the real world since their teaching career. i'm really just freaking confused since my idealisms can't provide me shelter or food. if there's anyone whose been through this, your advice will be greatly appreciated.

My advice.



Stop being a little bitch.

 

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