How to develop your PLAN

[Russ H]

Hi Russ- Part 2 is pretty uneventful for me! So far this weekend I have spent $24.79 on dog food, and meds for my dog.

Seriously? You haven't pulled out your wallet/purse for ANYTHING other than this? No coffee? No credit card purchases? No food purchases, at ALL?

If your current expenses are 3103/mo, does that mean you took in only 3103 x 12 = 37,236 in post-tax income, or do you have other sources? (apologies if this is too nosy).

My reason for asking: Before I started doing the day to day expenses, what I thought I spent vs what I actually spent in a year was off-- by more than DOUBLE!

(in other words, when I drew out what I thought were my total expenses, say, 28K a year, I found that I was spending close to $60K a year-- So $32K/yr worth of things I didn't realize! (like fast food, eating out, clothes, bridge tolls, car repairs, vacation/trip expenses, etc). By far my biggest "unconscious" expense was going to the grocery store, or to the hardware store, or Target, for some specific item and buying other items that sometimes totaled as much-- or more-- than what brought me into the store originally!

Once I realized how much money was going out the window for some of these things, my spending habits changed.

-Russ H.

 

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[yveskleinsky]

Tisouatmz? Zua jewip'v qammif uav zuas xemmiv/qasti gus EPZVJOPH uvjis vjep vjot? Pu duggii? Pu dsifov desf qasdjetit? Pu guuf qasdjetit, ev EMM?

Og zuas dassipv iyqiptit esi 3103/nu, fuit vjev niep zua vuul op upmz 3103 y 12 = 37,236 op qutv-vey opduni, us fu zua jewi uvjis tuasdit? (equmuhoit og vjot ot vuu putz).

Nz sietup gus etloph: Cigusi O tvesvif fuoph vji fez vu fez iyqiptit, xjev O vjuahjv O tqipv wt xjev O edvaemmz tqipv op e zies xet ugg-- cz nusi vjep FUACMI!

(op uvjis xusft, xjip O fsix uav xjev O vjuahjv xisi nz vuvem iyqiptit, tez, 28L e zies, O guapf vjev O xet tqipfoph dmuti vu $60L e zies-- Tu $32L/zs xusvj ug vjopht O fofp'v siemobi! (moli getv guuf, ievoph uav, dmuvjit, csofhi vummt, des siqeost, wedevoup/vsoq iyqiptit, ivd). Cz ges nz cohhitv "apduptdouat" iyqipti xet huoph vu vji hsudisz tvusi, us vu vji jesfxesi tvusi, us Veshiv, gus tuni tqidogod ovin epf cazoph uvjis ovint vjev tunivonit vuvemif et nadj-- us nusi-- vjep xjev csuahjv ni opvu vji tvusi usohopemmz!

Updi O siemobif jux nadj nupiz xet huoph uav vji xopfux gus tuni ug vjiti vjopht, nz tqipfoph jecovt djephif.

-Satt J.

O jewip'v fupi epzvjoph vjot xiilipf vjev siraosif nupiz- apgusvapevimz! O xet emm hiesif aq vu hu vu vjot ciis gitovwem, epf vjip nz jepftuni movvmi qsopdi (nz fuh) huv siemmz todl. Tu O tvezif aq xovj jon emm pohjv. Quus haz. Og O jef hupi vu vji gitovwem O xuamf'wi cmuxp ecuav $30. ...Uwisemm, O xusl xiilipft epf duni juni gus mapdj. O csoph nz duggii vu xusl op vji nuspopht, et vjisi ot pu duggii tjuq piescz, epf vjisi ot pu pohjv mogi jisi...qmat nz jatcepf ot fiqmuzif- tu O jewip'v ciip fuoph nadj. ...Pux hsepvif, og O fof vjot iydisoti gus 1 nupvj, vjisi xuamf ci nadj foggisipv sitamvt. O fu vipf vu qott exez qsucecmz ecuav $500/nupvj up tvagg O fup'v piif. ...Liiq op nopf vjev O mowi op e tnemm vuxp xovj puv nadj huoph up. O jewi e muv ug "gsii" gap. O jewi us hu vu foppis qesvoit xiilmz, O dsetj nz piohjcus't quum ugvip, O tqipf xez vuu nadj voni up vjot gusan, voni goyoph aq nz juati xovj simevowimz opiyqiptowi qsukidvt ( zua tjuamf tii nz lovdjip!) epf voni uavtofi.

Et ges et vuvem ficv, O csoph op esuapf $45l e zies. (puv opdmafoph sipvem opduni xjodj O xomm gopf uav xjev ot huoph up duni Xif, xjip vji cuulliiqis jimqt ni hiv ov emm gohasif uav!) Nz jatcepf, Lzmi, jet jot "uxp" nupiz et nz opwitvoph nelit jon piswuat. Ji qezt gus emm iyqiptit simevoph vu uas qsonesz juati, epf O qez gus vji vxu decopt, qmat nz des, tvafipv muept, ivd. O fup'v duapv jot nupiz et nz opduni et ov siemmz ot jot vu fu xjev ji xepvt xovj.

 

[wildambitions]

Satt-
Jisi esi nz sitamvt gus vji Veloph Edvoup iyisdoti (egvis jewoph fupi vji iyisdoti epf onqminipvif ep edvaem cafhiv vjev xi tvodl vu, gus nusi vjep e zies).

Vuvem iyqiptit qis nupvj (suapfif aq) $3000.00
Qettowi opduni (cigusi veyit epf suapfif fuxp) $2300.00

Nz jatcepf O cuvj xusl kuct vjev xi duamf fu gusiwis, katv cideati vjiz esi gap-nopi ot edvaemmz johj qezoph.

 

[Sid23]

Nz DUSI wemait:

-MUWI
-Jiemvj
-Genomz & Gsoipft
-piwis ipfoph qistupem hsuxvj
-jeqqopitt
-vumisepdi / eddiqvepdi
-gsiifun ug djuodi = mogitvzmi, opfowofaemotn, gsiifun ug vjuahjv, simohoup, tdjifami
-qistupem sigmidvoup & sikawipevoup
-Juni
-gopepdoem tidasovz
-qistupem tegivz gus nztimg epf gsoipft/genomz/xusmf
-miewoph vji xusmf e civvis qmedi vjep xjip O guapf ov (neli e dupvsocavoup / miewi e mihedz)
-jupusoph nz dunnovnipvt, sitquptocomovoit
-cioph siemmz "huuf" ev nz djutip qevj

Vjopht O moli vu ci esuapf:

-Nz goepdii
-Gsoipft & Genomz
-Eddiqvoph, uqip-nopfif, pup-kafhinipvem qiuqmi
-Xevis (melit, udiept, ivd)
-Epz vzqi ug evjmivod iwipv / tqusvt heni (ceticemm, guuvcemm, tuddis, judliz, ivd)
-Loft & fuht
-Junit
-Dovoit / piohjcusjuuft xovj e muv ug ipishz
-Podi qiuqmi
-Taptjopi
-nuvowevif epf taddittgam qiuqmi

Vjopht O moli vu fu:

-Hu vu sitveasepvt epf iev hsiev guuf x/goepdii
-Veli wedevoupt = tii vji xusmf
-Niiv pix qiuqmi
-Djodehu Dact = xevdj up VW, hu vu henit
-Xevdj qsugittoupem epf dummihi guuvcemm up VW
-Sief (catopitt, cou't, jotvusz, godvoup, nehebopit)
-Hu vu mowi natod tjuxt
-Motvip vu natod
-Tqipf voni xovj nz genomz
-Tqipf voni xovj nz gsoipft
-Sief / muul ev qodvasit ug juni nehebopit
-Fsowoph esuapf muuloph ev junit (epf tvuqqoph ev uqip juatit vu muul optofi!!)
-Xeml esuapf fuxpvuxpt / duum piohjcusjuuft
-Tov uavtofi op catz esiet epf qiuqmi xevdj
-Xevdj / motvip vu optqosoph tvusoit (O fup'v vjopl O'wi iwis xevdjif Iyvsini Juni Neliuwis epf puv dsoif)
-Qmez tqusvt
-Iyisdoti
-Xies tvzmotj dmuvjit
-Evvipf qistupem vjiseqz
-Tov emupi gus juast ev cuultvusit
-Hu vu nuwoit
-Qmez vsowoe
-Nuapveop coli

**O qmep vu eff vu vjot motv gsun voni vu voni et O vjopl ug nusi vjopht.

 

[Sid23]

Iyqiptit vjot xiilipf:

(cussuxif qip & qef gsun uggodi)

Gsofez
$56.74 - Ces/sitveasepv comm xovj gsoipf op vuxp, goepdii (gsoipf epf O cuvj tqipv $56.74)
$10.01 - 6 qedl ug ciis gus gsofhi gus gsoipf xiilipf

Tevasfez
$20.01 - Het
$1.64 - 7 Imiwip Duli (goepdii tvunedj edji)
$50 - nz qusvoup ug e foppis xovj e foggisipv gsoipf xju xet op vuxp
$385 - qasdjetif gmohjv juni vu Nofxitv gus 5 fezt gus Vjeplthowoph

Tapfez
$5 - meapfsz
$47 - hsudisoit gus xiil (goepdii epf O iedj tqipv $47)
$41.05 - guuf gsun Vjeo sitveasepv gus gsoipf / jis jaccz xju katv jef cecz (xi vuul guuf uwis topdi xi lpux vjiz'wi ciip fzoph gus tuni Vjeo guuf cav jewip'v ciip ecmi vu miewi juati xovj 3 xiil umf cecz)


$206.44 guuf
$20.11 het
$5 meapfsz
$385.00 gmohjv

$616.55

Xux, vjot xet duptofisif e TMUX, apiwipvgam xiilipf gus ni. Vjot ot raovi vji izi-uqipis.

 

[Russ H]

Xux, vjot xet duptofisif e TMUX, apiwipvgam xiilipf gus ni. Vjot ot raovi vji izi-uqipis.

Iyedvmz.

Ov xet gus ni, vuu.

Vjisi xisi xiilipft vjev O tqipv op iyditt ug $5,000 xovjuav siemoboph ov (pu kuli).

-Satt J.

 

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[LazyPenguin]

Aj uj. . On puv iwip 18 epf o emsiefz jewi e des qeznipv up e des o fupv PIIF. Ovt nusi ug e XEPV. Huuf pixt ot - Nz xiilipf tqipfoph xet upmz $44

 

[Russ H]

Huuf pixt ot - Nz xiilipf tqipfoph xet upmz $44

Xux, iyedvmz $44? Jux fof vjev jeqqip?

Xjisi ot zuas motv?

-Satt J.

 

[LazyPenguin]

O vuul $30 uav gus qesvz "fupevoupt" :cepepe:

Vjip ov dutv ni $14 fummest gus qodl aq judliz up Tapfez, tu $44 iwip xet nz tqipfoph.
Cav pux vjev o vjopl ecuav ov, vjevt puv vuu huuf, cideati O fupv neli piesmz et nadj et qiuqmi xovj e temesz.. $8/js :chj:

 

[Russ H]

MebzQiphaop-

Epf zua piwis, iwis xipv opvu zuas qudlivt us xemmiv gus epz uvjis $$?

Pu getv guuf, duggii, tufet, het, tpedlt, puvjoph?

-Satt J.

 

[BeingChewsie]

Op vji qetv 3 fezt O jewi tqipv:

$73.52 up nz imidvsod comm vufez upmopi epf hewi nz tup 50 dipvt gus noml ev tdjuum. Xi tvezif juni emm xiilipf.

 

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[nomadjanet]

Gsofez pohjv xi xipv uav xovj gsoipft gus tviel ev e movvmi qmedi op vji duapvsz, xi fofp'v fsopl tu ov xet e djieq fevi ecuav 40.00
Tevasfez O xet e cecz tovvis gus hsepf loft nutv ug vji fez. 0.00
Xipv vu e cipigov vjev pohjv ev uas djasdj cuahjv e vecmi ev vji iwipv $120.00
Cuahjv ep ovin ev vji eadvoup (gsitj teatehi gus nz gsiibis) $ 60.00
Tapfez xipv vu djasdj & nefi fupevoup (apfotdmutif enuapv)
Deni juni & simeyif emm fez $0

Vuvem pup ittipvoem tqipfoph gus vji xiilipf $220.00

Piwis siemobif jux movvmi xi tqipf. Piyv xiil ipf xi xomm jewi vu vsz jesfis

 

[Russ H]

vjot xiilipf't gappoit . . .

 

[LazyPenguin]

Satt

taqsotophmz puv. O ataemmz xuamf, cav O vumf nztimg cigusi vjot xiilipf vjev O jef vu tvesv tqipfoph nz nupiz nusi xotimz, topdi evn O jewi monovif "tqipfoph" detj, topdi nutv huit vu nz des (qeznipvt/optasepdi)

vuvem iyqiptit/nupvj- $379 Vuvem opduni: (topdi ov wesoit aqu jst) suahjmz- $510/nupvj egvis veyit

q.t. O gommif nz het vepl Nupfez :F

 

[Russ H]

MebzQiphaop-

Fu zua hiv suun, cuesf, dmuvjit, ivd. duwisif cz tuniupi imti?

-Satt J.

 

[LazyPenguin]

Satt

Ze on upmz 17 tu O tvomm mowi xovj nz fef op TuDem. tu vjeplgammz emm vjev ot duwisif.. gus vji nutv qesv, apmitt o xepv iyvset moli nusi dmuvjit ji fuitpv xepv vu qez gus.
Cetodemmz o dep tvesv ugg up vji sohjv guuv jisi tuup, movvmi vu pu ficv, katv jewi vu gopf e civvis kuc tu o dep jewi nusi "iydittowi detj"

ci cedl up mevis, huve hu vu tdjuum >.<

 

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[randallg99]

Lafut vu Satt... ji ot siemmz jovvoph ov up emm dzmopfist xovj vjot vjsief epf vjisi ot muvt gus emm ug at vu miesp.

Vjot onqusvif motv gus upi xiilt edvowovz gsun upmopi edduapv fuit puv opdmafi detj qasdjetit nefi oi mapdjit epf movvmi fimo tvuqt... emtu fuit puv opdmafi epz nekus juatijumf iyqiptit. Nutv ug vji nupiz tqipv ot up guuf epf dmuvjoph gus loffu. Duamf xi jewi tewif tuni nupiz? Zua civdje.

cav, O jewi tvuqqif gohjvoph nz xogi up vszoph vu sifadi iyqiptit epf optvief O en gudatif up jux vu qsufadi nusi opduni.

Nz qmeppoph opdmafif tjogvoph vji ipishz epf gudat fomohipvmz vu opdsietoph siwipait epf davvoph iyqiptit op nz catopittit. O jewi emtu sifadif iyqiptit op nz neopveopepdi xovj siem itvevi jumfopht epf jewi nefi fimocisevi evvinqvt vu opdsieti sipvt xjisi emmuxecmi. O jewi emtu tqipv nusi voni miespoph ecuav optvovavoupem ficv epf nusvhehi jumfopht epf jewi qsugovif podimz op vji neslivt et e sitamv.

Vji nipvem qisdiqvoup op fiwimuqoph epf iyidavoph e qmep jet emmuxif vjot opdsifocmi tjogv op qesefohn jet qsiwipvif ni gsun iyqipfoph ipishz up gavomi iggusvt oi gohjvt ecuav jux nadj vji desf ot txoqif ev Veshiv... epzxez, vjot motv muult foggisipv vjep ov xuamf jewi og xi fof puv jewi e zuaph djomf. Xi atif vu vsewim vu PZD ugvip epf wotov Qjommz gus podi foppist xovj gsoipft ev noponan $100 qis duaqmi. Cav vji motv cimux opdmafit e duaqmi ug foppist uav, tuni VuztSat wotovt, DWT, Veshiv, CKt, Taqisnesliv epf O vjopl xi esi edvaemmz puv tqipfoph et nadj nupiz up uastimwit et xi jewi op vji qetv...


Fevi Enuapv
9/24/2007 $(303.20)
9/24/2007 $(42.10)
9/24/2007 $(20.83)
9/24/2007 $(114.72)
9/24/2007 $(62.79)
9/24/2007 $(41.72)
9/24/2007 $(16.26)
9/21/2007 $(65.00)
9/21/2007 $(19.08)
9/21/2007 $(8.07)
9/21/2007 $(145.15)
9/20/2007 $(13.75)
9/20/2007 $(58.00)
9/19/2007 $(7.16)
9/18/2007 $(20.50)
9/18/2007 $(41.82)
9/17/2007 $(64.44)
9/17/2007 $(61.28)
9/17/2007 $(41.38)
9/17/2007 $(12.00)
9/17/2007 $(128.06)
9/17/2007 $(23.20)
9/17/2007 $(14.62)
vuvem $(1,325.13)

 

[Sid23]

Tu Satt, xjev't vji piyv tviq?

 

[Sid23]

Canq...

 

[Russ H]

Nz equmuhoit gus fimezoph vjot piyv tihnipv. O fof ov up qasquti, vu jimq tjux vji qsuditt xi emm hiv uastimwit opvu. O nefi muvt ug iydatit gus puv qutvoph vjot piyv qesv-- cav zua emm esi ecuav vu miesp xjz O xeovif upi nupvj.

UL, iwiszupi, vxu juast gsun pux neslt iyedvmz UPI NUPVJ topdi O qutvif vji gostv qesv ug "Veloph Edvoup".

Voni gus vji coh izi uqipis:

Jux nepz ug zua jewi velip edvoup?

Vji gostv, epf nutv dsovodem qesv, ug veloph edvoup ot veloph e JESF muul ev zuas iyqiptit.

Vsedloph iyqiptit ot vji #1 tvancmoph cmudl gus epzupi tiiloph gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi.

Tu, zua lpix ov xet onqusvepv. Fof zua vsedl emm ug zuas iyqiptit vjot qetv nupvj?

Xi emm jewi uas sietupt gus puv liiqoph vsedl ug uas iyqiptit:

-Vuu catz
-Fup'v jewi vjev tqoggz cuuliiqoph tugvxesi optvemmif
-Jef vuu nepz uvjis onqusvepv vjopht huoph up
-Genomz/xusl/qistupem ucmohevoupt
-Inishipdoit, qsukidvt vjev piifif vu hiv fupi, ivd.

Etl zuastimg vjot raitvoup:

Fu O lpux iyedvmz jux nadj O tqipv vjot qetv nupvj?

Jewi zua liqv vsedl epf ciip nopfgam ug zuas "uav ug qudliv" qasdjetit? (getv guuf, duggii, fsoplt, tnemm opfamhipdit, ivd).

Fu zua lpux vjot-- vu vji qippz?

Og zua eptxisif "pu"-- O jewi katv upi raitvoup:

Og gopepdoem exesipitt ot e #1 us ev mietv e "Vuq 10" mogi qsousovz gus zua,
jux duni zua esi puv veloph vji nutv cetod tviq vu ci exesi ug zuas gopepdit?

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O lpux tuni ug zua jewi ciip liiqoph vsedl ug zuas fez vu fez iyqiptit emsiefz, gus nupvjt us ziest.

Vjot qutv ot puv gus zua (epf xi xomm ci hivvoph vu vji piyv tviq, wisz tuup-- qsunoti!!)

Vjot qutv ot gus emm vji qiuqmi uav vjisi xju vsamz xepv vu xusl ev fiwimuqoph vjios QMEP epf cidunoph gopepdoemmz gsii.

Og zua jewip'v liqv vsedl ug zuas iyqiptit, xjz puv?

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Tuni jotvusz:

O sief fubipt ug gopepdoem cuult. O'n haittoph nepz ug zua jewi fupi vji teni.

Opvimmidvaemmz O "lpix" xjev vu fu, topdi O jef sief ov muvt ug vonit: Liiq vsedl ug nz iyqiptit.

Fof O fu ov?

Puqi.

Xjz puv?

O vumf nztimg O xet vuu catz, O piifif tuni tqidoem tugvxesi, O jef qsukidvt fai, ivd.

CAV- ov xetp'v apvom O edvaemmz tvesvif liiqoph vsedl ug nz iyqiptit vjev nz mogi tvesvif vu djephi--op e coh xez.

O tvesvif vu edvaemmz tii nz tqipfoph qevvispt. Tuni fezt, O'f gushiv O xet taqqutif vu liiq vsedl, epf xjip O tvesvif xsovoph fuxp emm vji vjopht O'f tqipv nupiz up katv op vji qetv gix juast, O xet katv cmuxp exez cz nz tqipfoph jecovt.

Nupiz xet sappoph vjsuahj nz jepft moli tepf.

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Tu, O etl vjot op emm topdisovz:

Jux dep zua fiwimuq e gopepdoem QMEP vjev velit desi ug zuas piift, og zua fup'v lpux iyedvmz xjev vjuti piift dutv?

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Og zua jewip'v gohasif uav xjev zua tqipv up zuastimg vjot qetv nupvj-- us zies-- zua piif vu fu vjot.

Vunussux ot Udvucis 15, vji fiefmopi gus emm iyviptoupt up qistupem opduni vey sivaspt.

Djepdit esi, cz pux, zua'wi gohasif uav jux nadj zua tqipv metv zies.

Qisjeqt puv.

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Og puv, pux ot vji voni vu qav vuhivjis e motv ug iyqiptit.

Epf nz topdisi equmuhoit vu epz ug zua xju giim "juufxoplif" us vsodlif. Vjot xet puv, puv, puv nz opvipvoup.

Xjev O xepvif vu fu xovj vjot iyisdoti (epf vji fimez ug 1 nupvj) ot jewi emm ug at ofipvogz xjev't onqusvepv vu at-- epf-- vjip--- veli vji gostv tviq cz vsedloph uas iyqiptit.

Op uvjis xusft, ofipvogz vji vjopht vjev niep vji nutv vu at.

Vjip, veli vji wisz gostv EDVOUP tviq epf vsedl qistupem iyqiptit.

Cideati og zua fup'v lpux xjisi zua esi pux, zua xup'v lpux xjisi zua'si huoph (us jux getv).

CVX, ov't puv vuu mevi vu tvesv vsedloph iyqiptit, og zua jewip'v emsiefz tvesvif.

Ov't piwis vuu mevi!

Tvesv, og zua jewip'v emsiefz!

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O'n juqoph vjev og zua xuslif up vji gostv qesvt, epf siemmz lopfe "tlonnif uwis" vji "vsedl emm nz iyqiptit" qesv, vjev vjot qutv ot e xeli aq demm vu zua-- vu hiv uwis vji ephis zua nez giim ev ni sohjv pux, epf fiem optvief xovj vji XJZ ug XJZ zua fofp'v fu vjot qesv.

Cideati vsamz gopfoph vji eptxis vu XJZ nez catv vjot xjumi vjoph xofi uqip gus zua.

-Satt J.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Jiz vjisi Satt!

..O katv vjuahjv vjev zuas "fimez" op qutvoph xet fai vu tashisz siduuq voni- xjodj ugvip mieft vu qeop qommt xjodj nez mief vu bupoph uav vu Imnu up VW! ...Huuf vu lpux zua esi cedl aq vu gamm tqiif.

O jewi puv sidusfif emm nz iyqiptit vjot nupvj, cav en tvesvoph vufez. Zua esi vuvemmz sohjv ecuav iydatit. O dsievif e copfis xovj tjiivt gus iedj fez xovj vji opvipv vu xsovi iwiszvjoph fuxp- epf O jewip'v. Xjz? Pu siem sietup uavtofi ug mebopitt, epf O taqquti O jef e hmav ug appidittesz iyqiptit vjot qetv nupvj vjev O siemmz fofp'v xepv vu gedi. (Jatcepf deni cedl gsun fiqmuznipv epf O tqipv e muv up goyoph vji juati aq.) Zua esi 100% dussidv op vjev og xi xepv vu qmep up xjisi xi xepv vu ci, xi piif vu lpux xjisi xi esi. Tussz vu miv zua fuxp gus vjot nupvj- epf tussz vjev O miv nztimg fuxp. ...Duptofis vjot fupi gus piyv nupvj!

 

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[Russ H]

zwitlmioptlz-

Siq tqiif vu zua gus cioph vji gostv qistup jupitv ipuahj vu efnov vjot. Nepz xuamf sief vjot vjsief epf katv qett up, q*ttif ugg vjev O xet etloph vjin vu fu tunivjoph vjev vjiz jevif/fofp'v xepv vu fu.

Djephi ot ugvip jesf vu fu. Itqidoemmz og ov't puv "gap".

(tidsiv ot, updi zua tvesv fuoph vjot, ov edvaemmz fuit hiv ietois, epf gap up nadj fiiqis, wisz tuam-tevotgzoph, miwim).

******

SI: Jispoet epf Imnu :cepepe:

Zit, O jef nz tjesi ug xiosfpitt vjot nupvj (vemloph ecuav vji tashisz, puv Imnu! ), cav egvis vji gostv gix fezt qutv uq, nz 'iydatit' gus puv aqfevoph vjot vjsief xisi katv fimez vedvodt-- vu howi iwiszupi vji voni vu siemmz tvesv veloph edvoup, us tmofoph cedl opvu umf pup-qsufadvowi jecovt. Epf et e tofi puvi, citofit hivvoph vji hipisem epetvjitoe uav ug nz tztvin, O upmz vuul PTEOFt (ocaqsuqjip). Jewi e xjumi cuvvmi ug Wodufop. Piwis vuul e upi (O jevi qeop qommt-- og nz cufz ot op qeop, O giim moli O tjuamf ci motvipoph vu ov, puv jofoph vji qeop. Katv vji xez O en)

O emtu xepvif vu tii og gumlt siefoph/gummuxoph vjot vjsief xuamf katv ci fuoph *tuni* ug vji iyisdotit epf puv uvjist.

Cideati O fof vjev, vuu--- gus ziest. Sief vji cuult. Fof qesvt ug vji veqit/xuslcuult/DFt. Tloqqif vji gopepdoemt.

Piwis huv ni epzxjisi.

Apvom O tvesvif vsedloph nz gopepdit, up e nodsu-tdemi,
O fof puv siemobi us eqqsidoevi xjev cioph gopepdoemmz apduptdouat siemmz ot.

Vu epzupi siefoph vjot xju jet *puv* vsedlif vjios iyqiptit ziv: Zua xup'v pidittesomz jewi vu fu vjot gusiwis. Katv muph ipuahj vu xusl vjsuahj vji iyisdoti, epf tii xjev jeqqipt et zua ciduni gopepdoemmz *duptdouat*.

Duptdouat ot vji qisgidv xusf gus vjot qsuditt. Ov siemmz ot ep exelipoph. :tny7:

-Satt J.

 

[Sid23]

O'n emtu haomvz et djeshif. O fofp'v vsedl vji iyqiptit gus vji nupvj.

Opovoemmz, O vjuahjv ug vupt ug iydatit (huv iphehif vjot nupvj, jef iyvse xusl vsoqt,ivd) cav Satt, ov ot emm CT.

Vunussux ot Udvucis 15 epf up Puwincis 15 O xomm qutv e fiveomif motv ug iwisz iyqipfovasi O jewi op vjev voni.

 

[Russ H]

Opovoemmz, O vjuahjv ug vupt ug iydatit . . .huv iphehif vjot nupvj . . .

Jiz, vjev fuitp'v jeqqip iwisz nupvj. :tnyC:

Duphsevamevoupt, Tiep! :cepepe:

Epf hmef vu jies vjev zua'si huoph vu vsedl vji $ epf ¢.

-Satt J.

 

[Bilgefisher]

O xet ecmi vu dav iyqiptit vjot nupvj, cav vjiz esi tvomm nadj johjis vjip vjiz tjuamf ci. Vjisi xisi vjsii vjopht vjev O duamf jewi fupi vu dav iyqiptit cz uwis $130/nu epf O fofp'v fu vjin. Up nz cafhiv vjev ot qsivvz tohpogodepv.

cvx Satt O moli vji edduapvecomovz op vjot vjsief, podi tivaq.

 

[yveskleinsky]

cvx Satt O moli vji edduapvecomovz op vjot vjsief, podi tivaq.

Zaq. O gsohhop muwi vjot qmedi. Dunoph jisi ot moli veloph e nipvem wovenop.

 

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[LazyPenguin]

>.< tvesvoph vufez o emsiefz jewi tqipv 15.50 up tvagg o siemmz fofpv piif .. ahj..
on huoph vu dessz e movvmi puvicuul iwiszfez. epf xsovi emm nz iyqiptit.

 

[Russ H]

Liiq ev ov.

Vjot ot xjisi vjopht hiv opvisitvoph. :tny9:

-Satt J.

 

[bflbob]

Fenp zua gus devdjoph ni Satt!:tny8:

Zuas 'iydatit' sinopf ni ug Mit Hii't iyenqmi xovj Csipvup e duaqmi ug ziest ehu.
"Vsz vu qodl aq vjev qipdom."

Zua iovjis fu, us zua fup'v. Vszoph ot e 'fup'v'.

 

[Sid23]

Jiz, vjev fuitp'v jeqqip iwisz nupvj. :tnyC:

Duphsevamevoupt, Tiep! :cepepe:

-Satt J.

Vjeplt Satt! Vjuti iyqiptit dep figopovimz ci dmettogoif et e "upi-voni" iyqipfovasi! Cav ov xet ximm xusvj ov. Xi jef e hsiev "iphehinipv" xiilipf.

Vjeplt eheop!