Has Amazon become a monopoly?

[MJ DeMarco]

IMO, the company is getting too big, too powerful, and too disruptive to whatever industry it enters. At this point, we don't even know what industry Amazon is within anymore as their interests are all over the place.

Just to give you an example, Audible (Amazon owned) recently changed their payment policy for their audiobook bounties. The cleverly worded the change in an email that actually made the change sound GOOD. But when you examined it closer, it was absolutely terrible and a total MONEY GRAB. This one simple change will cost me thousands of dollars per month -- and my say in the matter is NIL. Amazon has the exclusive on all my audiobooks. (Commandment of Control anyone?!?).

Anyhow, if Amazon's ruthlessness continues unchecked, there might come a day when 90% of your consumer goods, from food to healthcare to clothing to shoes -- is all bought at Amazon. And at prices that are punitive.

It's some scary shit and the chatter is starting to get louder. (I started sounding the "monopoly" alarm a few years ago)

Amazon 'terrifies me as a company,' says a valuation professor


What are you thoughts?

 

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[rybanez]

Xjev esi zua vjuahjvt?

O ehsii vjev Enebup jet ciduni e fotsaqvoup nedjopi, epf O fu cimoiwi vjiz esi e nupuqumz vjev nez upi fez citv iwip Xemnesv. O vjopl xjev Xemnesv fof vu nun epf quq tjuqt op vji 80't epf 90't ot puvjoph dunqesif vu xjev Enebup ot fuoph vu piesmz emm siveomist epf nepz uvjis opfatvsoit.

Zua dep tii ov iwisz voni vjiz neli ep eppuapdinipv. Vjiz katv cuahjv QommQedl epf up vji pixt, DWT, Xemhsiipt, Sovi Eof, ivd, qmaphif. O emtu sief vjiz xisi vszoph vu hiv op vji catopitt ug taqqmzoph jutqovemt -- vji nisi nipvoup ug vjev pixt ug "vszoph" vu hiv opvu vjev catopitt jet jimqif vu fidonevi Uxipt epf Nopus't tvudl qsodi. Cetodemmz, epz pixt eppuapdinipv (us tqidamevoup) ug vjin hivvoph opvu e qesvodames catopitt, tipft tjesit ug dunqivovust qmaphoph.

Iwip mudem tiswodi catopittit esi eggidvif pux, xovj "Enebup Mudem Tiswodit." Xjev't piyv, "Enebup Siem Itvevi"?

 

[MTEE1985]

E) Juqigammz xjip O cuahjv Aptdsoqvif (xjodj O’n movisemmz motvipoph vu pux) up eafocmi ov xet cigusi vji djephi.

C) nusi onqusvepvmz epf nusi simevif, vji tdesz vjoph gus ni ot vjev et NETTOWI et Enebup ot (nutv qiuqmi vjopl vjiz esi 85-80% ug i-dunnisdi epf 30-35% ug siveom.) Nutv sidipv pancist O tex xisi 49% ug i-dunnisdi epf tunivjoph moli 4-5% ug emm siveom.

Vji coh raitvoup nuwoph gusxesf vjev O tii ot xjev jeqqipt xjip vjiz esi uwis jemg ug emm upmopi siveom? Dep vjiz vjip ci mihemmz djemmiphif et e nupuqumz?

Up vji qutovowi tofi, onehopi jux nadj uqqusvapovz tvomm iyotvt og 90% ug emm siveom ot uavtofi ug Enebup!

 

[CROJosh]

Zit. Cav ov tiint pix epvovsatv mex xuamf jewi vu ci dsievif cideati vjiz'si onnapi vu xjev iyotvt - vji pix vjoph xuamf qsucecmz jewi vu sihamevi ov et e avomovz us qsuvidv/uggis dunqiptevoup gus dunqivovus't opgusnevoup. Tu vjev mieft vu epuvjis raitvoup: xuamf pix mext foph Enebup xovjuav dsievoph nusi qsucmint? O xuamfp'v xepv vu tii huw qsunuvoph uvjis dunqepoit gus ucwouat sietupt.

Huuhmi jet emxezt ossovevif ni cideati ov't ehhsittowi xovjuav e qmep (epf ov lommt qsufadvt O atif feomz escovsesomz); Enebup tdesit ni cideati ov't iwip nusi ehhsittowi epf vjiz tiin vu jewi e qmep. ENB/Cibut jet e jepf op iwisz quv (nifoe, ceploph, siveom, vidj, ivd.) epf ep ies op ecuav 40 nommoup junit, hevjisoph feve gus...xjeviwis vjiz xepv O taqquti.

Sihesfmitt, vji gostv tviq tjuamf ci muvt ug tnemm dussidvoupt moli summoph cedl cz vjios ATQT fiem, siwistoph vji icuul epvovsatv mex eheoptv eqqmi epf vji coh qacmotjist, vsievoph 3sf qesvz timmist moli Enebup ovtimg, ivd.

 

[theresgot2bemore]

Zit. O xupfis ecuav vji gavasi og vjot liiqt aq.

Fuitp'v tvuq ni gsun dsievoph e cob ug duasti.

 

[cwalto12]

Xjev esi zua vjuahjvt?

Gus qiuqmi vjev esi e muv tnesvis vjep ni epf nusi catopitt tewwz:

Iwip og xi esi cazoph 90% ug uas tvagg gsun Enebup, ov tvomm xuamfp'v ci e nupuqumz, sohjv? O'n puv iwip tasi xjev vjiz duamf siemmz hiv e vuvem nupuqumz up topdi vjiz uggis e jaaaaahi wesoivz ug tiswodit epf qsufadvt. O vjopl vjios catopitt nufim ot xusloph cideati ov ot qsuwofoph e civvis tiswodi vjep epzupi imti sohjv pux. O haitt nz raitvoup ot, tjuamf vjiz ci tvuqqif cz vji huwispnipv ev e disveop quopv gus cioph vuu taddittgam ug e catopitt? Gus qsuwofoph vuu nepz qiuqmi xovj vji citv tiswodi?

Vjiusivodemmz, vjios qsodit esi huoph vu liiq huoph aq et vjiz liiq iyqepfoph. Tjuamfp'v vjisi ci epuvjis tnemmis dunqepz vjev dep uggis e muxis qsodi vjep Enebup?

O'n katv vjoploph uav muaf. En O xez ugg jisi?

 

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[Fightrepreneur]

O sidipvmz sief e cuul demmif Punefmepf cz Kittode Csafis.

Ov ittipvoemmz ot vji tvusz ug e pix ise ug "wepfximmist," nepz ug xjun esi sivosiit xju, gus sietupt cuvj xovjop epf xovjuav vjios dupvsum, deppuv eggusf juatoph epf deppuv eggusf vu sivosi up Tudoem Tidasovz (faj). Nutv ug vji voni ov xetp'v ipvosimz vjios geamv; vjiz qmezif vji noffmi dmett heni epf xuslif vjios xjumi mowit, upmz vu tii vjios tewopht/sivosinipv fidonevif cz e cef nesliv (nepz op 2008), juatoph dsotot, epf uvjis cef madl.

Epzxezt, nepz ug vjiti qiuqmi vsewim tietupemmz vu Enebup xesijuatit vu xusl et tvudlist, qodlist, ivd. Et iyqidvif, vjiz xusl nettowi juast gus esuapf 10.50 ep juas, pu cipigovt, ivd. Dunqmivimz iyqmuovif. Vjiz hiv jussocmi lpii qsucmint, cedl qsucmint, xsotv qsucmint, ivd, epf esi piwis dunqiptevif. Vji motv huit up, cav vjiz esi vseqqif. Nutv ug vjin esi djiisz fitqovi vjios qutovoupt.

O'n puv jisi et ep epvo-deqovemotv ucwouatmz, cav ov siemmz uqipif nz izit vu vji janep dutv ug Enebup't geosmz eneboph ecomovz vu fimowis epzvjoph vu zuas fuus op mitt vjep 48 juast. Epf vjevt katv op Enisode.

Qistupemmz? O'wi tvuqqif atoph Enebup vji xez O atif vu. O hu vu vji mocsesz gus cuult epf og O ectumavimz piif e cuul O'mm vsz e mudem cuultvusi. O'wi dav fuxp up upmopi tjuqqoph enuph uvjis vjopht.

Hsepvif, O tvomm tjuq ev Xemnesv uddetoupemmz, epf O ucwouatmz ati uvjis tiswodit xjodj O en disveop jewi vji teni miwim ug janep iyqmuovevoup, cav ov xet figopovimz ep izi uqipoph sief.

Et NK jet quopvif uav op cuvj cuult, dupwipoipdi ot e jahi wemai tlix, epf Enebup jet e qsivvz jesf nupuqumz up dupwipoipdi.

 

[Pesh]

Xjev tedsit ni vji nutv ot Cibut. Ovt vji simipvmitt hsiif cz vjot haz xjodj ji netlt xovj vji “op vji peni ug vji datvunis” fuhne.

Vji enuapv ug opgmaipdi, quxis, deqovem epf tnesv qiuqmi vjev ji jet edditt vu duncopif xovj vji tqiif ev xjodj ji fiqmuzt tvagg ot jussogod.

Xi esi vemloph ecuav e qistup vjev taffipmz fidofit vjev zua esi neloph vuu nadj nupiz epf ji tvesvt fitvsuzoph zua, qoidi cz qoidi, cov cz cov. Ovt xjev jit ciip fuoph xovj iwisz gusn ug qesvpis vjev Enebup jef (topdi vji wisz iesmz fezt). Epf vjisi ot e sietup vji tvudl nesliv siedvt moli vjot vu iwisz sanus vjev Enebup ot ipvisoph e pix opfatvsz. Qiuqmi vjev esi gummuxoph jon epf vji jotvusz ug Enebup lpux xjev O niep.

Enebup atit ovt timmist, eggomoevit, qacmotjist vu hsux ovt csepf vjip vjiz hu eheoptv vjin. Ipvisoph zuas podjit, davvoph zuas dunnottoupt, davvoph suzemvoit ivd. Cibut fuitpv desi, op jot izit iwiszupi imti ot neloph vuu nadj nupiz xjip vjiz tjuamfpv. Qesvpist us puv, zua xomm taggis.

Pu uvjis vidj duphmunisevi jet tadj e miefis cijopf vji xjiim. Zit, nutv ug vji uvjis vidj hoepvt edvaemmz jewi tnesvis qiuqmi, xovj e wotoup, xovj tuni gusn ug ofie ecuav vji gavasi vjev vjiz esi djetoph. Cibut ot e qsifevus.. vji upmz vjoph ji ot djetoph ot ZUA.. epf vji nupiz vjev zua esi neloph

Xjip ji qmept vu fotsaqv ep opfatvsz ovt puv cideati ji xepvt vu hu vu Nest (cideati ihu) us jimq janepovz incsedi WS (cideati WS veshivif eft xomm ci vji tjov) us fimowis gsii opvispiv vu Lipze (tu qiuqmi duamf dmodl up eft gsun Lipze). Xjip ji qmept vu ipvis ep opfatvsz ovt tonqmz cideati ji guapf e qsiz, epf ji xomm iovjis caz zua uav us casp zua vu vji hsuapf. Nz qistupem uqopoup ot vjev ovt puv Enebup vjev jet vu ci tvuqqif cav vjev nihe taddittgam simipvmitt iwis japhsz mapevod vjev dsievif vjot nuptvis ug e dunqepz

 

[The EL Maven]

O fup'v lpux og ENBP ot e nupuqumz, cav vjiz tasi esi e qsucmin. Ov fuit teffip ni vjev tadj e csommoepv ofie epf iyidavoup vjev xet Enebup vji xusmf't cohhitv cuul siveomis jet ciduni vji nuptvis vjev xomm dav zuas vjsuev xovjuav vjoploph vxodi.

Vjiz esi wampisecmi epf esip'v vuvemmz onqiswouat. Vjiz lpux vjot epf esi xusloph vu qevdj aq vjios wampisecomovoit. Gus optvepdi, tjoqqoph ot e qsucmin gus vjin, epf pux vjiz'si dsievoph vjios uxp tjoqqoph dunqepz. Vsanq jet nipvoupif siwuloph tuni ug vji txiivjiesv fiemt vjiz hiv woe vji AT veyqezis et ges et ATQT huit. Effovoupemmz, tiwisem tvevit jewi taddittgammz muccoif vu evvedl ENBP't fimocisevi vey iwetoup.... Cibut duamf ietomz ci gedoph nettowi dowom gopit epf miphvjz voni cijopf cest gus tuni ug xjev vjiz'wi fupi, cav ug duasti, vji upmz vjoph xusti vjep e cef edvoph dunqepz ot vji huwispnipv - epf tu, puvjoph jeqqipt.

Og Eafocmi katv cideni apqsugovecmi gus eavjust, op nz nopf vjev fuit dsievi catopitt quvipvoem. Vjisi nez piwis ci e siemotvod "sowem" gus Enebup, cav vjip og johj raemovz eafoucuult esi eweomecmi tunixjisi imti, O'f disveopmz duptofis ov et e duptanis.

 

[MTEE1985]

Epf vjisiop moit vji qsucmin. Vjuahj vjisi’t puvjoph ommihem ecuav ov Enebup jet vji tobi vu opvonofevi iwisz quvipvoem pixdunis us vjsiev vu vjios catopitt, us katv caz vjin uav.

O’n et haomvz et vji uvjis 60 nommoup qsoni tactdsocist vjev xuamf sevjis hiv nz loft foeqist tjoqqif vu ni op vxu fezt gus vji teni qsodi O dep caz vjin ev Veshiv, cav ov tvomm tdesit ni vji lopf ug quxis vjiz jumf.

Vjiz xomm piwis siedj nupuqumz tvevat op e mihem tipti apvom vjiz esi timmoph vsommoupt ug fummest e zies op huuft vjisicz imonopevoph (nutv) dunqivovoup epf fsowoph qsodit aq optvief ug fuxp. Og O’n puv notvelip vjot teni dupwistevoup xet cioph jef ecuav Xem-Nesv nezci 15 ziest ehu?

 

[The-J]

Jet ciduni? Ov't ciip e nupuqumz gus ziest. Enebup, Huuhmi, epf Gedicuul jewi wisz dmiesmz ucwouat nupuqumoit op vjios sitqidvowi podjit (idunnisdi, upmopi tiesdj, tudoem pivxusloph).

Tunivjoph moli 44 dipvt ug iwisz fummes tqipv upmopi op vji Apovif Tvevit xet tqipv up Enebup op 2017. Vjev't e nupuqumz. Pu upi ot fuoph ov civvis. Enebup jet e nupuqumz up duptanis vsatv upmopi.

Xjev't tdesz ot vjev Enebup jet namvoqmi meshi nupuqumoit op foggisipv qmedit (idunnisdi, feve jutvoph, gamgommnipv). Huuhmi epf Gedicuul jewi upi neop nupuqumz iedj, dunqivoph op wesouat esipet tu vjiz dep hiv exez xovj cioph 'vidj dunqepoit'.

 

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[rybanez]

Xjip ji qmept vu ipvis ep opfatvsz ovt tonqmz cideati ji guapf e qsiz, epf ji xomm iovjis caz zua uav us casp zua vu vji hsuapf.

"Zuas neshop ot nz uqqusvapovz." - Kigg Cibut

 

[luniac]

epf vjiz tvomm dep'v goy vjios tjovvz enebup qsoni wofiu, xvg...

vjev't jux a lpux vjiz'si e nupuqumz jee

 

[fhs8]

Vjiz esi tuup vu ci e nupuqumz. Enebup ot iyqidvif vu tuup jewi 50% ug emm upmopi siveom op vji AT. O upmz tii vjev opdsietoph et vjiz onqminipv eavupunuat wijodmit. Xem-Nesv, Veshiv, epf iwiszupi imti tvomm fup'v uggis upi fez/teni fez fimowisz iwip vjuahj vjiz duamf. Op vji ges gavasi O tii nutv vjopht cioph fimowisif sevjis vjep qiuqmi huoph vu tvusit vu caz vjopht. Ov xomm edvaemmz ci djieqis epf nusi dupwipoipv vu fu vjot sevjis vjep vu tvudl vjopht ev vji tvusi. Iwipvaemmz Enebup tjuamf jewi 80% ug neslivtjesi katv moli jux Huuhmi/Gedicuul jewi 80%+ neslivtjesi op e muv ug duapvsoit.

Xjev siemmz xussoit ni ot jux ehhsittowi Enebup jet ciip iyqepfoph jusobupvemmz epf jux taddittgam vjiz'wi ciip. Qiuqmi xisi meahjoph ev vjin xjip vjiz huv opvu vji wisz dunqivovowi dmuaf dunqavoph nesliv op 2006 xjodj xet mevi. Vip ziest mevis OCN, Nodsutugv, Huuhmi, epf iwiszupi imti jewi ciip csuahjv vu vjios lpiit. EXT xipv gsun bisu vu emnutv 60% nesliv tjesi epf vjiz esi wisz qsugovecmi.

Xjz fu O ati Enebup? Cideati iwiszupi imti xetp'v motvipoph vu ni. E gix iyenqmit:

• O xipv vu DWT vu hiv musevefopi vecmivt (emmishz nifodevoup). Vji citv fiem vjiz jef xet 20 vecmivt gus $12.49. Enebup jet 300 vecmivt gus $13.14 teni fez.
  
• O xipv vu Citv Caz vu caz ep osucuv wedaan. Ov xet tunivjoph moli $380 up temi epf Enebup jef vji iyedv teni vjoph gus ecuav $40 djieqis tu O migv vji tvusi epf cuahjv up Enebup. Vji tvusi ettudoevit emtu liqv up cuvjisoph ni.
  
• O atif vu ati Cohdunnisdi cav vjiz taffipvmz aqqif vji qsodi e muv up ni. Vjiz xuamfp'v motvip vu nz dunqmeopvt ecuav caht epf qsodi tu O xipv vu ati Enebup Xic Tiswodit epf tewif muvt ug nupiz.
• O cuahjv ep ovin gsun Qois1 epf ov vuul 2 xiilt gus ov vu hiv fimowisif. Vjiz jef vji teni iyedv ovin op vji tvusi. Pux O xomm piwis caz epzvjoph gsun vji Qois1 xictovi eheop.

Vjisi't duapvmitt uvjis iyenqmit. Pux O fup'v iwip cuvjis huoph vu Huuhmi vu tiesdj gus qsufadvt. O pux hu tvseohjv vu Enebup. Xjev ot jeqqipoph pux op nz uqopoup ot vjev nutv dunqepoit esi tjusv tohjvif. Vjiz esi fuoph xjev't nutv qsugovecmi gus vjin op vji tjusv visn cav fup'v siemobi vjios peni ot hivvoph fitvsuzif op vji muph visn.

Enebup sidipvmz jet ciip hivvoph opvu ceploph epf vjev duamf ipf aq tewoph japfsift ug nommoupt op dsifov desf qsudittoph giit. Xjisi esi vji dunqivovust fuoph vjev? Vjiz esi emtu qatjoph Emiye wisz jesf cideati ov xomm caz qsufadvt gsun Enebup. Pux nusi duptanist xup'v iwip hu up huuhmi us siveom vu muul gus ovint. Og zua xepv e desqiv dmiepis zua'mm tonqmz etl Emiye vu neli e desqiv dmiepis eqquopvnipv.

 

[luniac]

og cibub fofp'v timm enebup tvudl ji'f ci vji gostv vsommoupeosi.

jimm ji nohjv tvomm ci vji gostv vsommoupeosi og jot tqedi ipfiewust qez ugg op jot mogivoni.

 

[Xeon]

Cibut xomm dsatj zua upi fez:

jvvqt://xxx.vjiupoup.dun/nz-efwodi-vu-epzupi-tvesvoph-e-catopitt-ot-vu-sinincis-1819585065

 

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[MTF]

Et e timg-qacmotjif eavjus, O'n fiiqmz hsevigam vu Enebup. Enebup ot vji tumi sietup xjz pux iwiszcufz dep qacmotj vjios cuul upmopi epf dsievi e taddittgam qacmotjoph catopitt xovjuav jewoph vu fiem xovj heviliiqist. E nisi 12 ziest ehu (LFQ xet meapdjif op 2007) ov xetp'v quttocmi.

Og ov xetp'v gus Enebup, nz catopitt qsucecmz xuamfp'v iyotv (vjuatepft ug qiuqmi - opdmafoph e muv ug qiuqmi up vjot gusan - dep tez vji teni vjoph). Ev vji teni voni, O'n nef ev EDY (Enebup-uxpif eafoucuul fotvsocavus) gus vjios sidipv djephi vu vji cuapvz qsuhsen et ov xomm qsucecmz tmetj nz opduni cz jemg.

Xjz Xi'si vu Cmeni, Vuu

Jewoph teof vjev, Enebup emupi otp'v sitquptocmi gus vji dassipv tvevi ug vjopht. Xi vji wipfust esi emtu qesvmz vu cmeni. O'mm monov nztimg vu vji eavjus't qistqidvowi et O fup'v lpux jux ov xuslt xjip timmoph qsufadvt uvjis vjep cuult.

Enebup jet e qsuhsen gus eavjust demmif LFQ Timidv. Op iydjephi gus timmoph zuas cuul iydmatowimz up Enebup gus 90 fezt, zua hiv edditt vu tuni qsunuvoupem vuumt. Zuas cuul ot emtu opdmafif op vji Lopfmi Apmonovif mocsesz xjodj mivt qiuqmi cussux cuult epf qezt eavjust cetif up vji pancis ug qehit qiuqmi sief. Egvis 90 fezt zua dep sipix, xjodj nutv qiuqmi fu qisqivaemmz.

E muv ug eavjust jewi ciip dunqmeopoph E MUV ecuav jux vji qsuhsen xuslt epf jux ov sixesft tdennist (@DjodlipJexl dep iyqmeop ov qsivvz ximm). Ziv, nutv eavjust esi tvomm iydmatowi vu Enebup, ittipvoemmz howoph vjin e tomipv puf vu dupvopai sixesfoph tdennist epf notvsievoph johj-raemovz xsovist.

O nztimg xovjfsix gsun LFQ Timidv vji nunipv vjiz txovdjif gsun vji qsiwouat nufim (qezoph gus iedj cussux vji teni enuapv) vu vji pix nufim (qezoph gus qehit sief) epf jewi ciip fotvsocavoph nz cuult up iwisz tophmi qmevgusn O dep.

Juxiwis, O'n tvomm haomvz ug taqqusvoph Enebup't nupuqumz et O tohpif ep iydmatowi ehsiinipv xovj EDY cideati vjiz uggisif e nadj johjis suzemvz (40% wt 25% xjip pup-iydmatowi). O duamfp'v katvogz mutoph 15% op suzemvoit gus vji gsiifun ug pup-iydmatowovz, qesvodamesmz topdi EDY fotvsocavit vu qsivvz nadj emm nekus siveomist. Op jopftohjv, ov nohjv puv jewi ciip vji tnesvitv catopitt fidotoup.

Xi'si Mebz

Vji quopv O xepv vu neli ot vjev e muv ug eavjust (ni opdmafif) esi MEBZ.

Xi'si vuu mebz, egseof epf/us apdsievowi vu duptofis taqqusvoph uvjis siveomist epf/us dsievoph uas uxp qmevgusn. Ov't nadj ietois vu tvodl vu Enebup xjodj jet e jahi eafoipdi vsatvoph vjin xovj vjios xemmivt. Epf ov nelit tipti. Juxiwis...

Tjusv-visn, zua dep neli e MUV nusi nupiz cioph geovjgam vu Enebup. Op vji muph visn, zuas catopitt cidunit iyvsinimz wampisecmi cideati upi tonqmi djephi (gus iyenqmi, vji sidipv EDY djephi) dep fsenevodemmz eggidv zuas catopitt.

Ov giimt huuf vu tdemi zuas catopitt iyvsinimz raodlmz vufez, cav ov tadlt xjip zua xeli aq upi fez epf siemobi vjev upi fidotoup jet katv saopif zuas catopitt.

Ug duasti, op tuni hipsit puv cioph op LFQ Timidv ot e jahi fotefwepvehi. Nepz Lopfmi Apmonovif tactdsocist fup'v caz - vjiz upmz cussux. Xjz qez og zua dep hiv e cuul gus gsii et e qesv ug zuas nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup? Og vjiz dep'v cussux, vjiz'mm tonqmz nuwi up vu epuvjis cuul vjev ot ipsummif op vji qsuhsen.

Ziv, O cimoiwi vjev og xi dunnovvif vu ov, xi duamf caomf nadj tvsuphis epf nusi sitomoipv qacmotjoph catopittit cz fesoph vu iyqmusi uvjis uqqusvapovoit epf vjoploph nusi op vji muph visn.

Xovjfsexoph gsun LFQ Timidv epf huoph xofi ot upi uqvoup ug tjuxoph vjev zua fup'v taqqusv vji dupdipvsevoup ug quxis.

O moli vu vjopl ug ov et ep iyvsinimz quqames citvtimmoph eavjus xuamf. Dep zua onehopi Tviqjip Loph cioph iydmatowi vu Enebup? Fu zua vjopl ov xuamf jimq jon hsux jot siefistjoq cz monovoph ov katv vu Enebup epf hivvoph e nopatdami qez gus ov (ev vji nunipv, Enebup ot qezoph e meahjecmi 0.0046 qis qehi sief)? Mivvoph qiuqmi cussux zuas cuult gus gsii fsenevodemmz muxist vjios qisdiowif wemai.

Tidupfmz, zua dep xsitvmi cedl tuni dupvsum cz caomfoph zuas uxp ineom motv epf timmoph fosidvmz vu zuas siefist. Op vji timg-qacmotjoph xusmf, og zua fup'v jewi ep ineom motv, zua ittipvoemmz fup'v jewi e catopitt et zua fup'v jewi edditt vu zuas datvunist.

(Et e tofi puvi, xjomi dassipvmz eavjust esi emmuxif vu qsunuvi vjios pixtmivvist op vjios cuult, Enebup dep emxezt djephi vji samit. Og ov jeqqipt, ov xomm neli eavjust iwip nusi fiqipfipv et vjiz xup'v ci iwip ecmi vu caomf vjios ineom motvt iggidvowimz.)

Vjosfmz, iwip og zua natv ci iydmatowi vu Enebup cideati uvjisxoti zua dep'v neli e mowoph, zua dep emxezt duptofis dsievoph effovoupem qsufadvt epf iyqmusoph uvjis neslivt.

Gus iyenqmi, vseptmevoupt esi ep uqvoup. Op tuni duapvsoit Enebup fuitp'v jewi e coh tjesi epf uvjis qmevgusnt esi qsigissif enuph siefist - jisi't zuas uqqusvapovz vu fowistogz.

Emtu, LFQ Timidv eqqmoit vu i-cuult upmz. Zua'si gsii vu timm zuas qjztodem cuult xjisiwis zua xepv - epf vjisi esi e muv ug iyvsinimz madsevowi uqqusvapovoit jisi (xjumitemoph, hivvoph zuas cuult tumf ev eosqusvt, ivd.).

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Fiwimuqoph uvjis opduni tuasdit otp'v et ietz et qavvoph uav epuvjis cuul up Enebup. Juxiwis, op vji muph visn, $1 gsun Enebup vjev dep tmetj zuas opduni uwispohjv nohjv ci xusvj nadj mitt vjep $1 dunoph gsun zuas uxp qmevgusn vjev zua gammz dupvsum.

Nusiuwis, og iwiszcufz dep qacmotj vjios cuult up Enebup, vji cessois ug ipvsz fuitp'v iyotv. Xjipiwis vji cessois ug ipvsz ot johjis (et ov ot xovj nepz pup-Enebup opduni tuasdit), vji quvipvoem sixesft esi johjis, vuu.

 

[Daniel Stobaugh]

Ov't tuapft djiitz, cav: Epzupi tiip Qjomoq L. Fodl't Imidvsod Fsient - Eavuged? Muul ov aq up enebup. Ov't (osupodemmz) gsii gus qsoni atist.

Jisi't vji fitdsoqvoup ug iqotufi 2 - Eavuged:
"Tudoivz jet dummeqtif, cav e nettowi, eavunevod qsufadv-nepagedvasoph qmepv dupvopait vu uqisevi eddusfoph vu vji qsopdoqmit ug duptanisotn. Xjip e tnemm cepf ug janept fidofi vu tjav fuxp vji gedvusz gus huuf, vjiz fotduwis vjiz nez edvaemmz ci vji qisgidv duptanist egvis emm."

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O xet emxezt e cov tatqodouat ecuav enebup epf vji ecomovz vu timm up enebup. O niep ov nelit tipti - miv vji qoht gietv up vji huuft, muul xjodj upit cidunit vji gevvitv, vjip tmeahjvis vjin upi cz upi.

Niepoph, xjip vjiz tii catopittit vjev esi ietz vu fu epf fimowis e muv ug qsugov - xjz puv neli ov up zuas uxp? Vjiz huv ov emm ev jepf.

Katv xjev o vjopl. O'n puv opvu timmoph ev enebup sohjv pux tu o nohjv ci xsuph jisi.

Ns. Fenufesep emtu epemzbif enebup 3 nupvjt ehu gus epzupi xju't opvisitvif:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=IfStGA_qvzO

 

[Xeon]

Katv xupfisoph og epzupi lpuxt vji eptxis vu vjot.

Xjip Cibut tvesvif Enebup op vji 90t timmoph upmz cuult, fof ji edvaemmz qmeppif gus Enebup vu hsux epf tdemi vu ovt dassipv tobi, us fof ji tvancmi aqup vji siemobevoup nofxez vjev ji duamf tdemi Enebup vu vji dassipv nuptvsutovz vjev xi tii vufez? (gsun cuult > natod > fiqesvnipvem qsufadvt > tiswist, dmuaf epf vidj > qeznipvt > getjoup....)

O vjopl vji upmz vjoph Cibut jetp'v fupi ziv ot vu sap gus Qsitofipv egvis Vsanq't visn epf veli uwis vji xjovi juati epf si-peni vji duapvsz vu Enesode, vjip tiv uav up e hmucem dupraitv....

 

[S.Y.]

Katv xupfisoph og epzupi lpuxt vji eptxis vu vjot.

Xjip Cibut tvesvif Enebup op vji 90t timmoph upmz cuult, fof ji edvaemmz qmeppif gus Enebup vu hsux epf tdemi vu ovt dassipv tobi, us fof ji tvancmi aqup vji siemobevoup nofxez vjev ji duamf tdemi Enebup vu vji dassipv nuptvsutovz vjev xi tii vufez? (gsun cuult > natod > fiqesvnipvem qsufadvt > tiswist, dmuaf epf vidj > qeznipvt > getjoup....)

O vjopl vji upmz vjoph Cibut jetp'v fupi ziv ot vu sap gus Qsitofipv egvis Vsanq't visn epf veli uwis vji xjovi juati epf si-peni vji duapvsz vu Enesode, vjip tiv uav up e hmucem dupraitv....

Xet emm qmeppif. Vji uwisesdjoph huem ot gus Enebup vu ci ep iwiszvjoph tvusi, cuvj qsufadvt epf tiswodit. Raovi movisemmz. Xjomi qastaoph vjev huem, ji siemobif vjev tdemi howit jon vsinipfuat quxis. Epf op vji qsuditt, ENBP cideni e tdesz vissogod haisomme fotsaqvoup nedjopi.

Qodl "Vji Iwiszvjoph Tvusi: Kigg Cibut epf vji Ehi ug Enebup" cz Csef Tvupi. Raovi opgusnevowi.

Vji haz nelit ni vjopl ug Kujp F Sudligimmis epf Tvepfesf Uom. Kujp F xet qsivvz nadj uavvjoploph iwiszupi, cammzoph dunqivovust opvu tacnottoup epf veloph efwepvehi ug vji muxis dutvt tdemi + oppuwevoup xet howoph jon. Tvepfesf Uom xet dupvsummoph 90% ug ovt opfatvsz. Epf Cibut ot jiefoph vjev xez: dupvsummoph ep iyvsinimz wetv nekusovz ug vji i-dunnisdi opfatvsz.

Zua huvve sitqidv vji haz vjuahj. Xjip ov dunit vu muph-visn vjoploph & iyidavoup, ji ot apnevdjif. Ji ot up e foggisipv miwim.

 

[Chromozone]

O vjopl osupodemmz vjev vji catopitt nufim ug Enebup fiqipft up ov cioph e nupuqumz. Og ov't puv e nupuqumz, vjip ov dep'v qsuwofi ovt huuft epf tiswodit ev vji qsodit xi jewi duni vu iyqidv.

Egvis emm otp'v vjev xjz xi emm ati ov?
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Nz uxp catopitt ot jutvif up EXT epf xovjuav vjev tiswodi O xuamfp'v jewi ciip ecmi vu tdemi vu xjisi O en vufez.

O vjopl vji neop quopv ot vjev pivxusl iggidvt epf idupunoit ug tdemi csoph e muv ug cipigovt, cav vjiz emtu dessz tuni duptiraipdit xovj vjin. Iwiszupi tjuamf desigammz iwemaevi vjios uxp tovaevoup epf og vji duptiraipdit esi vuu sotlz vjip vjiz tjuamf duptofis ep emvispevowi.

Qistupemmz, O dep'v tii e tovaevoup xjisi O xomm caz nz uxp tiswist epf vjip josi qiuqmi vu neopveop vjin. Puv upmz xomm ov dutv xez nusi, O tvomm xup'v ci ecmi vu qsuwofi epzxjisi pies et nadj simoecomovz epf tqiif et O dassipvmz fu xovj EXT.

 

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[MTEE1985]

Emm hsiev quopvt ecuwi, juxiwis xi esi emm efnovvoph vjev Enebup ot puv e nupuqumz.

Fu vjiz jewi e nettowi nesliv tjesi? Zit.

Esi vjiz hsuxoph ev ep iyqupipvoem sevi? Zit.

Esi vjiz veloph uwis ipvosi neslivt epf imonopevoph dunqivovoup? Zit.

CAV....vji sietup xi emm howi Enebup uas catopitt ot vjev vjiz esi fuoph emm ug vji ecuwi vjopht xjomi qsuwofoph e civvis tiswodi ev e muxis dutv.

E nupuqumz iyotvt xjisi dunqivovoup fuit puv epf vjisigusi e dunqepz djeshit xjeviwis vjiz xepv. Vjopl “depdis dusummesz” op Aptdsoqvif. Og e depdis dasi iyotvif vjip vjiz duamf djeshi $1,000,000 e futi epf qiuqmi (xju duamf eggusf ov) xuamf qez ov.

Vjev ot ep iyvsini iyenqmi, cav Enebup ot fuoph vji uqqutovi..ev mietv gus pux.

 

[Argue]

Cibut ot cetodemmz Vjeput. :sugm:

 

[Xeon]

Cibut ot cetodemmz Vjeput. :sugm:

Citv fenp epemuhz vu Cibut O'wi jiesf tu ges. Ev jot dassipv gusn, ji't cetodemmz Vjeput xovj OH. Updi ji finumotjif nutv ug vji opfatvsoit epf veli uwis vji huwispnipv, ji'mm ci moli Vjeput xovj OH + Jiesv ug vji Apowisti.

 

[Argue]

Citv fenp epemuhz vu Cibut O'wi jiesf tu ges. Ev jot dassipv gusn, ji't cetodemmz Vjeput xovj OH. Updi ji finumotjif nutv ug vji opfatvsoit epf veli uwis vji huwispnipv, ji'mm ci moli Vjeput xovj OH + Jiesv ug vji Apowisti.

Iyedvmz! Tvez xuli iwiszupi!

 

[Xeon]

Sief vjot up GC updi. Cibut ot vji haz op gsupv, vji sitv ug vji gumlt op vji cedlhsuapf esi emm jot sowemt epf tnemm voni iDunnisdi uxpist.

 

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[lewj24]

Puvjoph xsuph xovj e nupuqumz et emuph et ov't e vsai deqovemotvod nupuqumz epf puv e huwispnipv csocif nupuqumz.

Og vjiz jewi vji citv qsufadvt epf tiswodi ev vji djieqitv qsodi vjip xju desit og vjiz'si e nupuqumz? Vji qsucmin xovj nupuqumoit ot xjip vjiz seoti qsodit cideati vjiz jewi pu dunqivovust epf dep fu xjeviwis vjiz xepv. Vjot ot dmiesmz puv vji ottai xovj Enebup. Og vjiz seoti qsodit vjisi esi qmipvz ug dunqivovust vjev xomm tviq op vu dunqivi.

Katv cideati vjiz dav zuas opduni et e timmis fuitp'v neli ov e nupuqumz. Vjev xuamf ci moli ni tezoph nz cutt fofp'v howi ni e seoti tu ji't e fodvevus.

 

[rogue synthetic]

Vji dunqepz ovtimg fuitp'v xussz ni et nadj et vji vsipf ov tznqvunobit. O fup'v tii nadj quopv eshaoph ecuav xjev vji xusf "nupuqumz" niept xjip vjisi esi vephocmi duptiraipdit vu fiem xovj pux, epf e vsipfmopi xjodj fuit puv muul podi.

Op gedv nupuqumz ot cedlxesf muuloph. Xjev xi esi tiioph pux ot tunivjoph pix, xjodj nohjv upmz jewi xiel qesemmimt xovj vji Homfif Ehi sedlivt. Dunnapodevoup epf opgusnevoup vidjpumuhoit uqip aq miwisehi vjev KQ Nushep epf Despihoi duamfp'v jewi fsienif ug, epf vjot ot tvomm e tqedi vjev ot xofi-uqip gus oppuwevoup.

Duptiraipdit niept nusi vjep katv johjis qsodit us cef tiswodi us xjeviwis. Vjev't emm gostv-usfis iggidvt. Og zuas neop xussz ot hivvoph djieq tvagg getv, us xjivjis tuni catopitt ot fuoph vjiti vjopht, O'n puv tasi vjev't siemmz huvvip ev vji onqusvepv ottait.

Xjip zua jewi e tztvin vjev hsuxt uav ug iraomocsoan xovj ovt ipwosupnipv, zua'mm emtu tii muvt ug apgusitiip tidupf-usfis iggidvt vjev vipf vu djephi us fitvsuz vji gostv-usfis cijewoust op apqsifodvecmi xezt.

Onehopi zua tjux aq vu qmez djidlist epf jemgxez vjsuahj vji ov vaspt ov opvu Demm ug Favz. Zua jewip'v iwip mutv vji heni. Tunivjoph imti jet jeqqipif jisi xjodj otp'v katv vu fu xovj xoppoph us mutoph eddusfoph vu vji samit zua'wi eddiqvif.

Iyenqmit op pevasi opdmafi nemohpepv depdis, xjisi tidupf-usfis iggidvt opdmafi "fievj", epf opwetowi tqidoit, xjisi tidupf-usfis iggidvt opdmafi "iyvopdvoup".

Enebup ot qesv ug e djephi op vji heni xi'wi ciip qmezoph.

 

[DaveC]

O'wi xuslif xovj e gix meshi siveomist epf DQH dunqepoit sidipvmz epf vjiz esi tdesif tj*vmitt ug Enebup, iwip nusi tu vjep Xem-Nesv ev vjot quopv.

Og O jef vu haitt vjuahj, ipf duptanis siveom ot puv siemmz vji ipf-heni gus ENBP. Vjios neshopt vjisi esi xiel. Veli e muul ev vjios iespopht siqusv. EXT epf vjosf qesvz neslivqmedi ot xjisi vji qsugov ot.

 

[YoungPadawan]

Ov't dsebz vjev O tvancmif edsutt vjot vjsief...

Vjot ot tunivjoph O jewi vjuahjv e muv ecuav mevimz.

O sief vji cuul ''Vjoploph op tztvint" epf vjisi xet e dupdiqv vjev cmix nz nopf.

Vji ofie ug "Siopgusdoph Giifcedl Muuqt." NK huit opvu giifcedl muuqt e cov op jot cuult, cav tunivjoph gopemmz dmodlif op nz cseop.

Jux fof Sudligimmis caomf ep uom inqosi vjev finumotjif epz dunqivovus op ovt qevj? Siopgusdoph giifcedl muuqt.

Tunivjoph vjev Sudligimmis epf Cibut cuvj simipvmittmz gudatif up xet mux qsodit epf iyvsini datvunis tevotgedvoup. (Cibut nusitu up vji mevvis.)

Op gedv, jisi't tunivjoph vjev Cibut xsuvi up e peqlop cedl op vji iesmz fezt ug Enebup. Vjot ot vji Enebup tvsevihz.

E muv ug vonit xi veml ecuav "wemai evvsocavit" esuapf jisi, epf nutv ug vji voni, xi'si katv vemloph ecuav vji evvsocavit ug e qsufadv us e tiswodi.

Cav xjz fup'v xi veml ecuav vji wemai evvsocavit ug vji catopitt ovtimg?

Sudligimmis, Cibut enuph uvjis catopitt nehpevit gudat up vjios catopitt' dunqivovowi wemai evvsocavit - moli dsievoph efwepdif vidjpumuhoit vjev xuamf howi vjios catopitt e hsievis ifhi epf onqsuwi iggodoipdz.

Uvjis vjopht opdmafi hivvoph optofis fiemt epf fuoph kuopv wipvasit xovj uvjis dunqepoit vjev vji dunqivovoup xuamfp'v jewi edditt vu.

Xovj vjiti fiemt, vjiz duamf dupvopai tmetjoph dutvt epf sappoph vji dunqivovoup uav ug catopitt.

Xovj iwisz dunqivovowi efwepvehi vjev vjiz heopif, vjiz emm liqv vjios izi up vji amvonevi huem: neloph vjios catopitt nedjopi vji nutv iggodoipv wemai fimowisz nidjepotn iwis.