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We’re not angry that she went mad, we’re angry because HBO offered them 10 episodes and they stayed with 6.That might be a good reason. The problem is they'd need not only a few more chapters, but probably an entire new season or two to tie all that stuff off, and they decided to finish now (I imagine salaries + CGI were getting crazy expensive).
Anyway, I've seen many people complaining for what's actually happened, more than for what's not been tied off.
Some complain about Daenerys going mad (as if she hadn't burned people since season one - she didn't burn cities down much earlier because she had advisers who calmed her down, now she's got none). I bet they wanted her to keep being a heroin and keep her mad side offline.
Some others complain about the Night King being killed quickly by the most skilled assassin in the show. Maybe they were expecting an epic one to one with Jon, but a guy who doesn't melt under dragon fire and has supernatural powers would kill any human out there on a combat that takes longer than 10 seconds (unless they underpower him just for the sake of sword fights).
I might be wrong, but my impression is that people wanted a happy ending with Jon and Daenerys ruling together, Cersei caught and tortured to death, etc. If games of thrones were good for being predictable, they would have lost their audience after season 1.
I wonder what the books (if the author ever finishes...) will tell. Hopefully, they will make some angry fans happy. Others will not be happy because everyone has a different ending in their minds.
Yeah, but we knew before they even started filming. Seasons 7 and 8 are definitely rushed, no doubt about it.We’re not angry that she went mad, we’re angry because HBO offered them 10 episodes and they stayed with 6.
She was already uncomfortable on season 7 with the idea of not destroying Kings Landing. That was before she went to Winterfell. Mad was long time ago, they only rushed that side taking over. A few more chapters in between would have helped to avoid making it look like it happens next day.The entire season felt rushed with little build up to the “madness”.
Indeed, her hobby was more to burn bad guys instead of good people before. And also threaten her advisers if they were naughty.Not to mention Danny had NEVER, EVER killed innocent citizens. Now all of a sudden she’s burning women and children alive AFTER ALREADY WINNING THE BATTLE.
I would’ve preferred Rhaegal to have been killed DURING the battle (actually using the damn ballistas), and the townspeople cheering for Danny’s death.What would be the alternative plot line to the slaughter? Given there was +30 minutes left, probably burning Cersei alive (for sure) and then... not sure. We'll see what episode 6 shows so we can speculate what would have been a better plot for episode 5 (better for some - I'm personally quite happy to see the Mad Queen honoring her name ).
The townspeople hate Cersei, I'm not sure why they'd be cheering for Danny's death. They would have preferred to be liberated, so Danny's victory without slaughter would have been ideal for themI would’ve preferred Rhaegal to have been killed DURING the battle (actually using the damn ballistas), and the townspeople cheering for Danny’s death.
THEN the slaughter would’ve been warranted.
Yeah, to me the second arrow that hits Rhaegal in his neck from the right is pointless, providing the other one comes from the front. Ships should be visible if they are deployed in that way.Instead, Rhaegal gets 360 no scoped three times in a row in episode 4.
To me, Danny studied the battle for a few days after what happened with Rhaegal. It's clear during the battle that she learned how to take advantage of the slow ballistas if she changed directions fast enough. That's what happened, and even if there's still risk to be hit, makes sense to me. Some people where complaining why she didn't round the ships on episode 4 and destroyed they while the guys moved the ballistas. Now she does something like that and people still complainEpisode 5 comes along (golden company + ballistas absolutely useless somehow) and the random slaughter begins.
This guy on YouTube created a brilliant alternate story for episode 3 Battle of winterfell which closed several open loops. Just goes on to show that with a little imagination and creativity this season could have been far more satisfying. You don't need more episodes or budget or CGI, just more imagination.Good example of the “opening loops” NLP principle.
The show created dozens of loops that just never really went anywhere. A great show is very hard to stop watching because of all the separate stories you want mental resolve on. Have a look at the 1000s of derailed YouTube GOT fan theory videos that now we know will go nowhere.
They stacked the whole show with great stories and characters and never really had any game plan to tie it all off. Reminds me of Lost.
I wonder if that’s the reason they stalled on releasing this season.
It’s never stated that the townspeople hate Cersei, only that Cersei hates them. The people probably hate every monarch on the throne up until the battle.The townspeople hate Cersei, I'm not sure why they'd be cheering for Danny's death. They would have preferred to be liberated, so Danny's victory without slaughter would have been ideal for them
Yeah, to me the second arrow that hits Rhaegal in his neck from the right is pointless, providing the other one comes from the front. Ships should be visible if they are deployed in that way.
I don't mind the dragon being killed by surprise though. I was expecting one to die during the battle too, but I prefer surprises, otherwise it gets boring and previsible.
To me, Danny studied the battle for a few days after what happened with Rhaegal. It's clear during the battle that she learned how to take advantage of the slow ballistas if she changed directions fast enough. That's what happened, and even if there's still risk to be hit, makes sense to me. Some people where complaining why she didn't round the ships on episode 4 and destroyed they while the guys moved the ballistas. Now she does something like that and people still complain
The writers of the series could probably say that Dany wanted Cersei to see the destruction, but there was still too little character development to buy into that.
Yes, it seems like they suddenly departed from the strengths that made GOT, GOT.It's sad to see that by far one of the best TV series in history ends like that, with many fans of the series disappointed by the sudden change from a well-thought out, well-paced story into yet another rushed, gimmicky TV show.
GOT is the only show/movie in years that I've watched with some interest.The common thread among the famous as well as the infamous is a dominant meaning-and-purpose. And likewise, the common thread amongst the SCRIPTED sheeple is they have no meaning.Instead, hyperreality babysits—this is why we have a society addicted to Game of Thrones and whoever wins some stupid singing contest.
--MJ DeMarco in Unscripted
Yes, viewers who love GOT lore for the reasons I mentioned above would surely be disappointed in this season. Just feels like a bad superhero flick with zero in-fantasy plausibility.lol to be fair, we're here heavily criticizing game of thrones after many seasons of built up trust.
Sheeple would convince themselves GOT is still good.
GOT attracted an audience because it was different, a fantasy concept that challenged your mind. No one was safe, and the audience loved it. In common Hollywood movies, you know the main character(s) is safe and won't die. In GOT, you never knew who was next.It goes to show that there are no such thing as market saturation, if you provide a very superior product.
Wow Greyworm turned into such an a**hole by the end of the show. They made him so unlikeable.Wow, can't believe no opinions on the last episode yet? We all knew it wasn't going to be good, but it was way worse I even expected. The crazy thing is that when Tyrion was talking to Jon Stark about taking over the throne, I thought, if there were 4 more episodes to go, this would actually be exciting. But with 60 minutes left, I really didn't care.
And my big question... WTF is up with the wall? Didn't it all get melted? Did the white walkers rebuild it after they passed it? And why do they even need it and why did Jon Snow go north at the end, wasn't he supposed to stay at the fort? So many WTFs?
They killed Missandei, so I guess her death took its toll on him.Wow Greyworm turned into such an a**hole by the end of the show. They made him so unlikeable.
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