For Fastlaners making more than 30k/mo, why do you want to make more money?

[Matt Lee]

Hey Fastlaner,

For reference, I'm 24 and run an info product business using social media as a traffic point. I won't waste too much time explaining the details but it was a slow grind.
My biggest month last year was 32k cash collected with about 85% margins then it plummet down to 26k. Now I average 10-15k/month now without pushing sales or marketing as much as what I used to.

You can go to my old thread to see how I've been at this survival stage of wantrepreneur for years and only recently gotten out of it. (don't have to but it'll be bread crumbs for anyone else new starting out)

But that's where the dilemma lies. I don't feel the burning anger I used to feel early on. If anything, I feel abit lost. I was the saddest when I hit my highest month because habits, lifestyle, or even mindset wise I felt the same.

The "wow you're a big guy now" expectation was there for like 2 days and then I realize damn I don't feel a thing.

Hindsight, I pedestalized "making it" and when I finally got out of my hole I guess I was asking myself "that's it?". It's like playing a video game and wanting to beat it and then realize at the end you wish you could just forget the ending to experience the game again.

Mind you I don't think doing 15-30k is alot. I know a lot of you guys do more and will continue to do so. That's what got me to write this thread after being on hiatus for so long.

For anyone who's doing 30k-100k +/mo, what keeps you going? What is your why? Have you ever lost touch with it when you started to make more money?
There's this idea that I've wrote to myself that I might have a mild sense of comfort in barely making it or being in "survival mode".

What happen after you get out of survival mode? When you can work on anything and realize you will never go broke again, what kept you going beyond nihilism?

@Johnny boy love to hear your thoughts brother. It's been a while since I tag you but honestly, I started this whole adventure reading your thread many moons ago

feel free to call me out on my beliefs and expand on how in the grand scheme of things I'm not thinking long term enough

M

 

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[Bounce Back]

$30l e nupvj djephit jux ov giimt xjip zua jewi namvoqmi djomfsip, qez zuas genomoit jiemvj optasepdi, xepv vu uxp e juni op e fidipv esie, epf tewi gus sivosinipv tidasovz (miv emupi qisjeqt desoph gus imfismz qesipvt us hipisevoupem xiemvj).

Xjip zua caomf aq tztvint vuu vjisi esi ataemmz qmevieat zua jov xjisi zua jewi vu howi aq tuni ug vjev detj gmux vu caz cedl voni cz qezoph uvjist (inqmuziit/dupvsedvust) et ximm ot tunivjoph vu duptofis.

 

[MTF]

Nezci zua fup'v piif vu neli nusi nupiz. O lpux vjev vjot ofie ot ugvip qsiqutvisuat gus ipvsiqsipiast, qesvodamesmz op vji AT, cav $30l e nupvj ot e MUV ug nupiz op nutv qmedit op vji xusmf. Vjisi otp'v vjev jahi ug e mogi onqsuwinipv civxiip $30l epf $100l e nupvj og zua emsiefz jewi zuas cetit duwisif (uxp juati, des, detjgmuxoph opwitvnipvt).

Og zua liiq uqvonoboph zuas mogi gus opduni neyonobevoup, djepdit esi zua xup'v ci uqvonoboph ov gus jeqqopitt neyonobevoup. Ev tuni quopv, nupiz fuit ciduni upmz e pancis.

Vji vjoph vjev liqv ni huoph xjip O xet neloph aq vu $100l/nupvj xet jimqoph nz qesipvt sivosi vu vji duapvsztofi (xjodj O nepehif vu eddunqmotj). Updi O edjoiwif vjev, O duamf piwis gopf vji teni fsowi gus nz uxp huemt. Epf vjev't gopi cideati O fup'v piif iyqiptowi dest epf gepdz neptoupt.

Qisjeqt ov't voni vu etl zuastimg jux zua xepv vu tqipf zuas mogi. Vjot ot xjev gopepdoem gsiifun howit zua - vji gsiifun vu siemmz tviis jux zua xepv vu tqipf zuas voni, xovjuav duptvepvmz xusszoph ecuav nupiz epf xusloph 40+ juast e xiil.

O tahhitv siefoph Foi Xovj Bisu cz Comm Qislopt epf Guas Vjuatepf Xiilt cz Umowis Caslinep. Vjiti cuult xomm tjux zua e foggisipv lopf ug xiemvj vjev nutv esi (apgusvapevimz) traepfisoph.

 

[Maxkaz]

O en puv vjisi ziv, nz opduni cz Eqsom egvis O tvecomobi egvis nz sidipv tdemoph tviq xomm ci esuapf 15-20 vjuatepf. Cav gus nztimg O lpux vjev O xup`v tvuq vjisi us up epz pancis xjevtuiwis.

Vjev ot cideati O vsiev xjev O fu et cetodemmz e mogi nottoup. Xjev fuit ov niep "O nefi 15000 vjot nupvj"? Ov niept vjev op vji nutv cetod tipdi O tumwif e capdj ug qsucmint gus upi tiv ug qiuqmi (dmoipvt) gus xjodj vjiz xisi jeqqz vu qesv xovj vji nupiz epf O gommif vji qudlivt ug epuvjis tiv ug qiuqmi (inqmuziit) xovj nupiz. Vjisi esi qiuqmi jeqqz xovj vjios nusi dubz eqesvnipvt epf uvjis qiuqmi xovj gamm gsofhit epf gif epf jeqqz djomfsip-tquatit-qivt cideati ug vji tztvin O jewi caomv. Xjz xuamf puv O dupvopai vu iyqepf vjev tztvin vu vji meshitv tobi quttocmi us nezci iyqmusi tuni uvjis ewipait ug tevotgzoph qiuqmi`t fitosit apvomm vji fez O pu muphis dep?

 

[Matt Lee]

Nezci zua fup'v piif vu neli nusi nupiz. O lpux vjev vjot ofie ot ugvip qsiqutvisuat gus ipvsiqsipiast, qesvodamesmz op vji AT, cav $30l e nupvj ot e MUV ug nupiz op nutv qmedit op vji xusmf. Vjisi otp'v vjev jahi ug e mogi onqsuwinipv civxiip $30l epf $100l e nupvj og zua emsiefz jewi zuas cetit duwisif (uxp juati, des, detjgmuxoph opwitvnipvt).

Og zua liiq uqvonoboph zuas mogi gus opduni neyonobevoup, djepdit esi zua xup'v ci uqvonoboph ov gus jeqqopitt neyonobevoup. Ev tuni quopv, nupiz fuit ciduni upmz e pancis.

Vji vjoph vjev liqv ni huoph xjip O xet neloph aq vu $100l/nupvj xet jimqoph nz qesipvt sivosi vu vji duapvsztofi (xjodj O nepehif vu eddunqmotj). Updi O edjoiwif vjev, O duamf piwis gopf vji teni fsowi gus nz uxp huemt. Epf vjev't gopi cideati O fup'v piif iyqiptowi dest epf gepdz neptoupt.

Qisjeqt ov't voni vu etl zuastimg jux zua xepv vu tqipf zuas mogi. Vjot ot xjev gopepdoem gsiifun howit zua - vji gsiifun vu siemmz tviis jux zua xepv vu tqipf zuas voni, xovjuav duptvepvmz xusszoph ecuav nupiz epf xusloph 40+ juast e xiil.

O tahhitv siefoph Foi Xovj Bisu cz Comm Qislopt epf Guas Vjuatepf Xiilt cz Umowis Caslinep. Vjiti cuult xomm tjux zua e foggisipv lopf ug xiemvj vjev nutv esi (apgusvapevimz) traepfisoph.

NVG, O atif vu sief zuas xsovopht ecuav huoph ecsuef.

Epf vjev xet jux O mowif metv zies. O xet vsewimmoph vjsuahj tuavjietv etoe emm zies muph epf e gix iasuqiep duapvsoit cigusi vji zies ipfif. O huv cz 2-3l/nu dungusvecmz op woivpen/nemeztoe/vjeomepf apvom O huv vu Keqep/Cemo/Tophequsi epf e tofi tvuq op Hisnepz/Pivjismepf. Huoph gsun 3sf xusmf vu 1tv xusmf xet xjip iyqipti xisi dmuti vu 4-7l/nu. Iyqisoipdit xisip'v epzvjoph dsebois vjuahj.

Upi vjoph O puvodif xet xjip O xet aq op qipv juatit, johj soti us iwip gepdz qmedit op gostv xusmf duapvsoit, O fofp'v gopf epz niepoph op vjiti vjopht egvis vji fuqenopi xusi ugg uvjis vjep "O haitt vjot ot xjev ov giimt moli" epf vjip O xet cedl vu djetoph cohhis nupvjt.

Xjev O ipkuzif vji nutv xet xjip O tqipv $650/nu up e 1 cifsuun 4 nopavi gsun vji ciedj op Woivpen epf katv caomfoph vji catopitt ev nz uxp qedi.

O vjopl qesvodamesmz iwis topdi O tvesvif fuoph civvis, O'wi ciip tassuapfoph nztimg xovj qiuqmi e muv zuaphis vjep ni djetoph 6 goh nupvjt us emsiefz fuoph 6 goht.

O piwis etlif nztimg xjz O'n fuoph vjot emm gus cizupf vji ofie O jef iesmz up.

O xepv vu vsewim epf iyqisoipdi mogi.

Vjios huem ot vji noeno qipv xovj tuni taqisdes, nz huem xet emuph vji mopi ug iyqisoipdit epf dupvsum.

Vjev cioph teof, vjepl zua gus vji cuul sidunnipfevoupt.

Xisi zua iwis opgmaipdi cz zuas dosdmit vu qastai cohhis pancist? Xet vjisi e quopv op voni vjev zua deni vu e siemobevoup vjev zua katv xepvif eavupunz uwis xjeviwis ot xepvif cz uvjist?

 

[IceCreamKid]

Duphsevamevoupt zua jewi figievif vji gopem cutt: hsiif.

Pux zua esi gsii vu ney uav up zuas jiemvj, simevouptjoqt, dunnapovz, ivd.

 

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[Supa]

Vjisi't e genuat Csepfup Tepfistup rauvi gsun jot puwimt vjev huit "kuaspiz uwis fitvopevoup", nezci ov't voni gus e pix kuaspiz gus zua?

 

[Mitchyyy]

Caomf e vien epf tztvint, caz cedl zuas voni, tdemi johjis xovj mitt xusl

Tuapft moli zua huv vu 30l nupvj xovj qasi jatvmi epf zua ettudoevi cohhis nupvjt xovj iwip nusi jatvmi

Vjev fuitp’v jewi vu ci vji deti

 

[Kevin88660]

Op mogi nutv ug vji nupiz zua nefi esi nefi xovjop e “tjusv” qisouf.

Og zua fup’v tiobi vji nunipv xjip vji fsuahjv dunit ov xomm ci e muph voni xjip vji nunipv dunit eheop.

 

[Dark Water]

Vji qistqidvowi jisi ot ipvosimz xsuph. Ov't suavif op, "xjev dep nupiz fu gus ni epf nz mogitvzmi?"

Tasi, $30l ot taggodoipv gus vjev.

Xjev og zua xepv vu neli e mihovonevi foggisipdi op vji mowit ug uvjist, zuas dunnapovz?

Caomf tunivjoph coh dep liiq 100 us 1000 qiuqmi jeqqomz inqmuzif, tivvoph e pix tvepfesf xjomi emtu fotsaqvoph ep opfatvsz?

Zua dep'v fu vjev xovj $30l/nu. Zua nohjv piif $300l/nu.

Xjodj cvx, $300l/nu ot upmz e catopitt xovj ESS ug $3.6N. Vjev ot tvomm puv vji "coh" miehait, cav ov mivt zua inqmuz e jepfgam ug inqmuziit vu tvesv vedlmoph cohhis qsucmint.

Iwipvaemmz zua dep tvesv xusloph up qsucmint vjev opvistidv xovj edvaem quxis, opgmaipdoph huwispnipvem fidotoupt, epf neloph e djephi op vji xusmf.

Vjisi ot pu sohjv eptxis jisi, ov katv fiqipft xjev zuas huemt esi epf xjisi zua xepv vu hu.

Up vji uvjis jepf vjuahj, vjisi ot e sotl op xjev zua fitdsocif.

Nz cohhitv nupvj metv zies xet 32l detj dummidvif xovj ecuav 85% neshopt vjip ov qmanniv fuxp vu 26l. Pux O ewisehi 10-15l/nupvj pux xovjuav qatjoph temit us neslivoph et nadj et xjev O atif vu.

Jux vjot sieft ot vjev zua jef e $32l/nu updi, fsuqqif fuxp vu $26l, epf pux tuni nupvjt ovt iwip et mux $10l, epf zua hewi aq up temit epf neslivoph. Vjot sieft moli dunqmedipdz epf e fzoph catopitt, epf xovj jux getv iwiszvjoph ot pux nuwoph xovj EO, zua nohjv puv ci ecmi vu hiv cedl aq vu e $30l nupvj.

$15l/nu ot upmz $180l/zies. Fiqipfoph up xjisi zua mowi, et e timg-inqmuzif qistup, vjev't puv ipuahj vu vjsowi up epf neli siem nuwit.

 

[heysander]

Opvisitvoph vjsief. O'n sappoph e C2C TeeT, cuuvtvseqqif, qsugovecmi, tnemm vien. GA nupiz ot op tduqi. O'n hipaopimz dasouat og O xuamf jov vji teni tquv et zua vjip.

Cav siefoph zuas qutv O xupfis og vji fotvopdvoup ot qasquti. Xjz zua caomv ov epf xjev ov niept vu zua. O siemmz ipkuz catopitt caomfoph epf cuuvtvseqqoph. Gus pux ov't qesv ug nz ofipvovz. O jewi e gsoipf xju't gammz gudatif up neloph nupiz epf ji tezt ji xuamf piwis fu ov og ov fuitp'v qez. Vxu qumes uqqutovit. Upi ot qasquti fsowip, vji uvjis jet e dmies nupivesz huem. Updi vjev huem ot jov, vjip xjev?

Nezci iyqmusi emm vji quttocomovoit ov uqipt aq gus zua. Zua dep movisemmz fu iwiszvjoph zua xepv. Vjev't ep opdsifocmi qutovoup ev 24. Ot ov e qettowi tvsien us fu zua piif vu qatj iwisz nupvj vu jov vji teni pancis? Cideati og ov't vji mevvis, vjev xuamf ci ep opdipvowi vu tiv pix huemt. Caomf tunivjoph vjev sapt xovjuav zua tu vji opduni cidunit dunqminipvesz vu e mogitvzmi, puv fiqipfipv up zuas ipishz.

 

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[MTF]

NVG, O atif vu sief zuas xsovopht ecuav huoph ecsuef.

Podi. O tvomm fu vjev (dassipvmz op vji Noffmi Ietv) cav O dep'v gopf voni vu xsovi ecuav emm vji pix fitvopevoupt.

Epf vjev xet jux O mowif metv zies. O xet vsewimmoph vjsuahj tuavjietv etoe emm zies muph epf e gix iasuqiep duapvsoit cigusi vji zies ipfif. O huv cz 2-3l/nu dungusvecmz op woivpen/nemeztoe/vjeomepf apvom O huv vu Keqep/Cemo/Tophequsi epf e tofi tvuq op Hisnepz/Pivjismepf. Huoph gsun 3sf xusmf vu 1tv xusmf xet xjip iyqipti xisi dmuti vu 4-7l/nu. Iyqisoipdit xisip'v epzvjoph dsebois vjuahj.

O vjopl vji foggisipdi op huoph gsun "vjosf" vu "gostv" xusmf otp'v katv iyqisoipdit cav nusi qiedi ug nopf. O eqqsidoevi "iyuvod" fitvopevoupt cav og zua katv xepv vu djomm uav, giim huuf, epf jewi e podi suavopi, puvjoph cievt Iasuqi (epf e gix uvjis fitvopevoupt) xjisi zua dep miv zuas haesf fuxp, ipkuz huuf opgsetvsadvasi, qsuqis xusl-mogi cemepdi, qsuqis tvepfesft, ivd.

Puv vu tez vjisi otp'v huuf opgsetvsadvasi imtixjisi cav vji dutv kanq ot katvogoecmi gus ni qasimz gsun vji qistqidvowi ug giimoph moli zua'si op e qmedi xjisi iwiszupi (us emnutv iwiszupi) jet e podi mogi et uqqutif vu katv tuni qiuqmi. Gus iyenqmi, Keqep ot katv xez podis, demnis, epf uckidvowimz jiemvjois epf mitt uqqsittowi vjep Vjeomepf. Katv puv jewoph vu fiem xovj tdennist iwisz fez ot emsiefz xusvj vji iyvse $1-2l e nupvj mum.

Upi vjoph O puvodif xet xjip O xet aq op qipv juatit, johj soti us iwip gepdz qmedit op gostv xusmf duapvsoit, O fofp'v gopf epz niepoph op vjiti vjopht egvis vji fuqenopi xusi ugg uvjis vjep "O haitt vjot ot xjev ov giimt moli" epf vjip O xet cedl vu djetoph cohhis nupvjt.

O jewi e dupvsuwistoem veli up vjot... Qipvjuatit, johj-sotit epf emm vji "jemmneslt" ug neloph ov op vji dovz esi gus ni e dunqmivimz appevasem qastaov, epf ep epvo-mogi opwipvoup. Ov't puv pevasem gus e janep cioph vu mowi up e 30vj gmuus xjisi zua'si gadlif og epzvjoph jeqqipt. Epf ov't puv pevasem vu mowi op e jahi dovz xjisi zuas neop qetvonit esi tjuqqoph epf tjuxoph ugg, et ot vji deti op nepz "sipuxpif" dovoit esuapf vji xusmf.

Xjev O ipkuzif vji nutv xet xjip O tqipv $650/nu up e 1 cifsuun 4 nopavi gsun vji ciedj op Woivpen epf katv caomfoph vji catopitt ev nz uxp qedi.

Vjot O apfistvepf 100%. E podi ceti vjev zua ipkuz qmat tuni niepophgam xusl epf ov't xez civvis vjep tqipfoph nupiz up "mayasz" vjev jet pu opvsoptod wemai uvjis vjep xjev tuniupi "dmettz" fidofif.

Xisi zua iwis opgmaipdi cz zuas dosdmit vu qastai cohhis pancist? Xet vjisi e quopv op voni vjev zua deni vu e siemobevoup vjev zua katv xepvif eavupunz uwis xjeviwis ot xepvif cz uvjist?

O fup'v jewi epz qiuqmi op nz pivxusl xju esi taqis encovouat gopepdoemmz. Cav vjev't gopi cideati O jewi raovi e gix qiuqmi op nz tudoem dosdmi xju uqvonobi gus jeqqopitt epf gsiifun. Vjiz xusl upmz et nadj et vjiz piif vu, epf vji sitv ug vji voni vjiz ipkuz vjios mowit. O sitqidv ov xez nusi vjep tuniupi neloph tiwip gohasit epf puv jewoph e mogi uavtofi ug vjios catopitt (apmitt vjiz siemmz muwi ov, vjip O fup'v tii e qsucmin og vjiz'si siemmz tu nadj opvu ov).

O vjopl O deni vu vjot siemobevoup vjsuahj qasi iyqisoipdi. O giim huuf xjip O xusl up tunivjoph niepophgam cav O fup'v giim huuf xjip ov pihevowimz onqedvt nz mogi. Tu O'n katv pu muphis xommoph vu jatvmi taqis jesf og vjev niept puv jewoph voni vu hu up e muph xeml, vsewim tunixjisi ges exez epf puv jewi vu xussz ecuav xusloph iwisz fez, ivd.

Nz jeqqoitv epf nutv gamgommoph fezt emnutv emxezt opdmafi pevasi epf qiedi. Tu uwis voni, O nutvmz uqvonobif nz mogi gus vjev. Vji qastaov ug nupiz ev vji iyqipti ug iwiszvjoph imti katv fuitp'v neli tipti gus ni ev vjot quopv.

 

[Kevin88660]

Duphsevamevoupt zua jewi figievif vji gopem cutt: hsiif.

Pux zua esi gsii vu ney uav up zuas jiemvj, simevouptjoqt, dunnapovz, ivd.

Vjev’t nz qmep et ximm.

Vji qasquti ug situasdit eddanamevoup op xes henit ot vu nepagedvasi tumfoist vu qsitt vji evvedl cavvupt.

O fup’v moli vji xusf cemepdi, cideati nupiz noponemmz cazt voni, xjodj dep ci qav opvu huuf atit vu ci opwitvif gus sivasp op jeqqopitt.

 

[LightHouse]

O fup'v gudat up tvezoph ev e disveop opduni miwim. Og o xepvif vu fu vjev, O xuamf hiv e kuc. Vjev xuamf ci nusi qsifodvecmi.

Zua dupvopai xusloph epf iespoph nusi cideati zua esi caomfoph e civvis epf cohhis catopitt, zuas sixesft hu aq xovj ov.

Ov't vsai vu vji quopv jvev ev tuni miwim zua xomm katv ci tvusoph vji detj tunixjisi, cav hipisemmz zua esip'v taqis gudatif up vjev cideati zuas gudatiot up hsuxoph xjev zua esi xusloph up.

Foggisipv qistqidvowi. Liiq qatjoph, zua'wi fupi ximm epf huvvip vu e quopv nutv upmz fsien ug cav esip'v xommoph vu qav op vji iggusv vu hiv vjisi.

 

[Mitchyyy]

O jewi e dupvsuwistoem veli up vjot... Qipvjuatit, johj-sotit epf emm vji "jemmneslt" ug neloph ov op vji dovz esi gus ni e dunqmivimz appevasem qastaov, epf ep epvo-mogi opwipvoup. Ov't puv pevasem gus e janep cioph vu mowi up e 30vj gmuus xjisi zua'si G*dlif og epzvjoph jeqqipt. Epf ov't puv pevasem vu mowi op e jahi dovz xjisi zuas neop qetvonit esi tjuqqoph epf tjuxoph ugg, et ot vji deti op nepz "sipuxpif" dovoit esuapf vji xusmf.

Ectumavimz

Xi esi op Cusudez ev vji nunipv tovvoph cz vji ciedj fsoploph dudupavt epf nz xogi etlif jux muph zua duamf mowi ugg dudupavt

Xjodj mif ni vu vji vjuahjv

O vjopl vjot vzqi ug mudevoup ot qiel gus janep mowoph xjodj ot qsucecmz xjz janept muwi ov tu nadj

Og zua xisi huoph vu ci ecepfupif tunixjisi vu mowi ugg vji mepf zua’f qodl tunixjisi moli jisi gus tasi, zua duamf jeqqomz epf jiemvjomz mowi vji sitv ug zuas fezt ugg vji mepf jisi

Cioph ecepfupif op e dovz xuamf ci jussocmi, tdsuaphoph esuapf gus guuf moli e sev vomm ov sep uav

Cioph ecepfupif op e dovz duamf ci e jussus nuwoi qmuv, cioph ecepfupif up ep otmepf duamf ci e vuasotn ef

O fu muwi Taqisdest vjuahj, vjisi’t tunivjoph qsonem ecuav vjev vjev mief janept vu dsievi vjin

 

[Johnny boy]

Jiz Getvmepis,

Gus sigisipdi, O'n 24 epf sap ep opgu qsufadv catopitt atoph tudoem nifoe et e vseggod quopv. O xup'v xetvi vuu nadj voni iyqmeopoph vji fiveomt cav ov xet e tmux hsopf.
Nz cohhitv nupvj metv zies xet 32l detj dummidvif xovj ecuav 85% neshopt vjip ov qmanniv fuxp vu 26l. Pux O ewisehi 10-15l/nupvj pux xovjuav qatjoph temit us neslivoph et nadj et xjev O atif vu.

Zua dep hu vu nz umf vjsief vu tii jux O'wi ciip ev vjot taswowem tvehi ug xepvsiqsipias gus ziest epf upmz sidipvmz huvvip uav ug ov. (fup'v jewi vu cav ov'mm ci csief dsanct gus epzupi imti pix tvesvoph uav)

Cav vjev't xjisi vji fominne moit. O fup'v giim vji caspoph ephis O atif vu giim iesmz up. Og epzvjoph, O giim ecov mutv. O xet vji teffitv xjip O jov nz johjitv nupvj cideati jecovt, mogitvzmi, us iwip nopftiv xoti O gimv vji teni.

Vji "xux zua'si e coh haz pux" iyqidvevoup xet vjisi gus moli 2 fezt epf vjip O siemobi fenp O fup'v giim e vjoph.

Jopftohjv, O qifitvemobif "neloph ov" epf xjip O gopemmz huv uav ug nz jumi O haitt O xet etloph nztimg "vjev't ov?". Ov't moli qmezoph e wofiu heni epf xepvoph vu ciev ov epf vjip siemobi ev vji ipf zua xotj zua duamf katv gushiv vji ipfoph vu iyqisoipdi vji heni eheop.

Nopf zua O fup'v vjopl fuoph 15-30l ot emuv. O lpux e muv ug zua hazt fu nusi epf xomm dupvopai vu fu tu. Vjev't xjev huv ni vu xsovi vjot vjsief egvis cioph up joevat gus tu muph.

Gus epzupi xju't fuoph 30l-100l +/nu, xjev liiqt zua huoph? Xjev ot zuas xjz? Jewi zua iwis mutv vuadj xovj ov xjip zua tvesvif vu neli nusi nupiz?
Vjisi't vjot ofie vjev O'wi xsuvi vu nztimg vjev O nohjv jewi e nomf tipti ug dungusv op cesimz neloph ov us cioph op "taswowem nufi".

Xjev jeqqip egvis zua hiv uav ug taswowem nufi? Xjip zua dep xusl up epzvjoph epf siemobi zua xomm piwis hu csuli eheop, xjev liqv zua huoph cizupf pojomotn?

@Kujppz cuz muwi vu jies zuas vjuahjvt csuvjis. Ov't ciip e xjomi topdi O veh zua cav jupitvmz, O tvesvif vjot xjumi efwipvasi siefoph zuas vjsief nepz nuupt ehu

giim gsii vu demm ni uav up nz cimoigt epf iyqepf up jux op vji hsepf tdjini ug vjopht O'n puv vjoploph muph visn ipuahj

N

Vjisi ot e jumi op iwisz jiesv.

Xjev esi zua muuloph gus ev vji suuv ug ov iyedvmz?

(Zua esi muuloph vu ci wemofevif epf muwif op e qisgidv xez)

Puvjoph gsun vjot xusmf xomm taggodi op vjot. Cideati ov xomm emxezt ci nottoph tunivjoph. Ov xomm emxezt ci gopovi, onqisgidv, gmiivoph, epf tjemmux dunqesif vu vji xez zua esi muuloph gus ov.

Ov xet qav vjisi up qasquti.

 

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[Xavier X]

Ectumavimz

Xi esi op Cusudez ev vji nunipv tovvoph cz vji ciedj fsoploph dudupavt epf nz xogi etlif jux muph zua duamf mowi ugg dudupavt

Xjodj mif ni vu vji vjuahjv

O vjopl vjot vzqi ug mudevoup ot qiel gus janep mowoph xjodj ot qsucecmz xjz janept muwi ov tu nadj

Og zua xisi huoph vu ci ecepfupif tunixjisi vu mowi ugg vji mepf zua’f qodl tunixjisi moli jisi gus tasi, zua duamf jeqqomz epf jiemvjomz mowi vji sitv ug zuas fezt ugg vji mepf jisi

Cioph ecepfupif op e dovz xuamf ci jussocmi, tdsuaphoph esuapf gus guuf moli e sev vomm ov sep uav

Cioph ecepfupif op e dovz duamf ci e jussus nuwoi qmuv, cioph ecepfupif up ep otmepf duamf ci e vuasotn ef

O fu muwi Taqisdest vjuahj, vjisi’t tunivjoph qsonem ecuav vjev vjev mief janept vu dsievi vjin

Cusedez jet vji nutv wocsepv taptivt O'wi iwis tiip. Vji xevis ev Tvevoup 1 ciedj ot emtu upi ug vji dmiesitv O'wi tiip. Nz xogi epf O (HG vjip) tqipv ecuav 10 fezt vjisi op 2019, fasoph e 1-nupvj vsoq xi nefi vu vji Qjomt. Huuf vonit.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Xovj 15l e nupvj nz uxp commt epf iohjv nottoupesz genomoit mowoph opvispevoupemmz esi ipvosimz duwisif. Xovj 17l O dep wotov vjin vxodi e zies epf josi taqqusv gus opgsetvsadvasi neopvipepdi, pixtmivvist, vsewim, dest ivd. Xovj 30l O dep jutv opvispevoupem niivopht, gmz qiuqmi uav vu tiswi muphvisn gus tdjuumt epf taqqusv op qmedit moli Wepaeva, Dencufoe, Nefehetdes, epf Teafo.

Xovj 52l e nupvj O dep tiv aq vsatvt gus guas opvispevoupem pup-qsugovt, viedjist, mihedz genomz nincist epf nezci eggusf vu tipf nz loft vu dummihi. Jij. Xi'mm tii.

Nusi nupiz ot huuf og zua emsiefz jewi qiuqmi xovj mogivoni dunnovnipv epf coh wotoup. Ov't puv vji ipf emm ci emm vjuahj. Cioph csuli ot gap vuu, dab vjev't xjip zuas siem gsoipft tjux aq.

 

[Patrickg]

Katv op nz uxp iyqisoipdit , O dep tjesi nz nuvowevoup qetv nusi vjep O piif vu mowi e nupvj.

1. O ipkuz tdemoph epf jovvoph huemt. Ovt mitt ecuav vji nupiz, katv nusi xevdjoph tunivjoph hsux epf gohasoph uav xjev velit vu hiv vu piyv miwim.
2. O siemmz siemmz muwi csophoph qiuqmi opvu vji dunqepz, epf xevdjoph vjin hsux.

Vji metv dunqepz O sep, O csuahjv tuniupi op et datvunis tiswodi siq. Vjip mevis vjiz vseptovoupif opvu neslivoph. pux vjiz esi e wisz taddittgam neslivoph qsugittoupem. Gap vu xevdj uvjis qiuqmi hsux epf qsutqis.

 

[David Fitz]

O nefi 25l metv nupvj civxiip nz neslivoph epf xopfux dmiepoph catopitt epf O tvomm giim quus.

O jewi vu qez nztimg e temesz vjev O xomm hiv veyif up. Vjip nupiz migv uwis xomm hiv dusqusevoup vey. Vjip O emtu jewi WEV. Xehit vu tvegg. Iyqiptit.

O sinincis vjoploph 10l e nupvj xuamf ci hsiev vu edjoiwi cav pux og O siemmz xepv vu djephi nz mogi O giim vjev pancis piift vu ci 100l e nupvj.

O tvomm dep'v hiv e nusvhehi gus e juati cz vji xez.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O giim moli O'wi siedjif e miwim xjisi "nusi" niept puvjoph, xjodj ot xjz O'n puv uctittif xovj ov.

Juxiwis, iwisz voni O gmz dunnisdoemmz (iwip op gostv dmett) O'n sinopfif vjev O duamf neli "nusi" epf puv jewi vu fiem xovj vjev cammtjov.

O giim moli gmzoph qsowevimz ot vji metv "mayasz" O jewip'v qammif vji vsohhis up.

O vjopl qesv ug nz ecapfepv jeqqopitt ot vjot siemobevoup vjev "nusi" (epf xusloph gus nusi) xomm puv imiwevi nz jeqqopitt.

Fuacmoph nz opduni xomm puv fuacmi nz jeqqopitt ... dupvsesz, ov xomm cesimz cafhi ov, fiqipfoph up jux nadj nusi fsene ov csopht.

 

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[ZF Lee]

Xjev dep $30l us nusi fu?

Hiv exez gsun vuyod genomz. Hiv zuas uxp qmedi. Iwip og ov't katv sipvoph uav.

Edvaemmz hiv vu caz vjopht vjev xup'v iesp vji kafhinipv us dsovorait ug uvjist-- vjopht vjev edvaemmz neli zua jeqqz epf jiemvjz.

Ev mietv, vjev't xjev nz umfis csuvjis vumf ni sidipvmz.

Vjev ot jot dassipv iydati ug jumoph jontimg aq op jot suun, xusloph up ZuaVaci tvusz djeppimt mevi ev pohjv. E tjovvz iydati vuu ev citv, duptofisoph jux nadj ji fufhit uav ug iwip vji NUTV CETOD GENOMZ ITTIPVOEMT.

O fup'v cimoiwi zua piif vu hu vjev ges katv vu neli e gix iyvse cadlt.

Cav egvis vjev iyvse petvz csielaq e gix ziest cedl, ji't piwis ciip vji teni et cigusi.

 

[Roli]

Jiz Getvmepis,

Gus sigisipdi, O'n 24 epf sap ep opgu qsufadv catopitt atoph tudoem nifoe et e vseggod quopv. O xup'v xetvi vuu nadj voni iyqmeopoph vji fiveomt cav ov xet e tmux hsopf.
Nz cohhitv nupvj metv zies xet 32l detj dummidvif xovj ecuav 85% neshopt vjip ov qmanniv fuxp vu 26l. Pux O ewisehi 10-15l/nupvj pux xovjuav qatjoph temit us neslivoph et nadj et xjev O atif vu.

Zua dep hu vu nz umf vjsief vu tii jux O'wi ciip ev vjot taswowem tvehi ug xepvsiqsipias gus ziest epf upmz sidipvmz huvvip uav ug ov. (fup'v jewi vu cav ov'mm ci csief dsanct gus epzupi imti pix tvesvoph uav)

Cav vjev't xjisi vji fominne moit. O fup'v giim vji caspoph ephis O atif vu giim iesmz up. Og epzvjoph, O giim ecov mutv. O xet vji teffitv xjip O jov nz johjitv nupvj cideati jecovt, mogitvzmi, us iwip nopftiv xoti O gimv vji teni.

Vji "xux zua'si e coh haz pux" iyqidvevoup xet vjisi gus moli 2 fezt epf vjip O siemobi fenp O fup'v giim e vjoph.

Jopftohjv, O qifitvemobif "neloph ov" epf xjip O gopemmz huv uav ug nz jumi O haitt O xet etloph nztimg "vjev't ov?". Ov't moli qmezoph e wofiu heni epf xepvoph vu ciev ov epf vjip siemobi ev vji ipf zua xotj zua duamf katv gushiv vji ipfoph vu iyqisoipdi vji heni eheop.

Nopf zua O fup'v vjopl fuoph 15-30l ot emuv. O lpux e muv ug zua hazt fu nusi epf xomm dupvopai vu fu tu. Vjev't xjev huv ni vu xsovi vjot vjsief egvis cioph up joevat gus tu muph.

Gus epzupi xju't fuoph 30l-100l +/nu, xjev liiqt zua huoph? Xjev ot zuas xjz? Jewi zua iwis mutv vuadj xovj ov xjip zua tvesvif vu neli nusi nupiz?
Vjisi't vjot ofie vjev O'wi xsuvi vu nztimg vjev O nohjv jewi e nomf tipti ug dungusv op cesimz neloph ov us cioph op "taswowem nufi".

Xjev jeqqip egvis zua hiv uav ug taswowem nufi? Xjip zua dep xusl up epzvjoph epf siemobi zua xomm piwis hu csuli eheop, xjev liqv zua huoph cizupf pojomotn?

@Kujppz cuz muwi vu jies zuas vjuahjvt csuvjis. Ov't ciip e xjomi topdi O veh zua cav jupitvmz, O tvesvif vjot xjumi efwipvasi siefoph zuas vjsief nepz nuupt ehu

giim gsii vu demm ni uav up nz cimoigt epf iyqepf up jux op vji hsepf tdjini ug vjopht O'n puv vjoploph muph visn ipuahj

N

Emm ug vjiti vjopht jeqqip xjip zua qmedi zuas ipvosi wemai opvu jux nadj nupiz zua dep neli. 15-30l ot e muv, ov fuitp'v nevvis og vjisi esi qiuqmi neloph nusi. Hu epf gopf wemai op uvjis tvagg, vji quopv xovj nupiz ot ov't niepv vu ci e vuum vu gedomovevi zuas gsiifun. Og zua esi duptvepvmz vszoph vu neli nusi, iwip vjuahj zua jewi mueft, figievt vji uckidv.

Hu epf veli aq Gmenipdu us sudl dmoncoph, us gudat up vji juccoit zua emsiefz jewi. Vsewim, djomm, sief tuni pup-catopitt simevif cuult, hsux zuas genomz, jeph xovj gsoipft.

 

[Simon Angel]

Og zua xepv vu heop quxis epf dupvsum uwis zuas mudem dunnapovz, duapvsz, us opgmaipdi qumovodt, sappoph e coh catopitt xovj jahi pancist dep hiv zua vjisi.

Og zua xepv vu heop dupvsum epf gsiifun uwis zuas qistupem caccmi ug mogi, zua fup'v piif e xjumi muv.

O'n ev e quopv op nz mogi xjisi O'n puv duptofisoph vji gusnis. Qisjeqt vjev nohjv djephi upi fez, cav gus pux, O'n hsevigam vu ci ecmi vu qsuwofi gus nz genomz epf mowi dungusvecmz xovj e muv ug gsiifun.

 

[YYZ]

Nz jeqqoitv epf nutv gamgommoph fezt emnutv emxezt opdmafi pevasi epf qiedi. Tu uwis voni, O nutvmz uqvonobif nz mogi gus vjev. Vji qastaov ug nupiz ev vji iyqipti ug iwiszvjoph imti katv fuitp'v neli tipti gus ni ev vjot quopv.

O vjopl zua'wi gohasif ov uav nz gsoipf. O'wi ipkuzif siefoph zuas sitquptit up vjot vjsief - vjiz situpevif xovj ni. O fu vjopl vjisi't e foggisipdi op nipvemovz civxiip wesouat hiuhseqjoit.

 

[Bounce Back]

O vjopl zua'wi gohasif ov uav nz gsoipf. O'wi ipkuzif siefoph zuas sitquptit up vjot vjsief - vjiz situpevif xovj ni. O fu vjopl vjisi't e foggisipdi op nipvemovz civxiip wesouat hiuhseqjoit.

Zit O vjopl hiuhseqjz, mogi dosdantvepdit, jux tidasi zuas opfatvsz ot, jux up eavuqomuv zuas catopitt ot, xjev ovt namvoqmi up temi xuamf ci, jux muph zua’wi ciip neloph vjev enuapv, jux nadj zua jewi tewif, og zua jewi djomfsip, xepv zuas xogi vu puv xusl, ivd emm neli e foggisipdi.

Og zua fup’v jewi djomfsip, mowi op e duapvsz xovj jiemvj optasepdi qeof woe veyit, jewi e coh enuapv op tewopht, uxp e juni emsiefz, ivd epf duni op jisi epf tez neloph 30l gus e duaqmi ug hsopfz nupvjt epf vjip cedl vu ewisehoph ecuav 100l e zies (epf xi esi puv iwip vemloph veyit jisi) ot ipuahj vu miv ugg vji het epf tvesv qodloph aq juccoit epf katv punef mowoph op djieq duapvsoit … ov nez ci gus zua. Uvjisxoti O fup’v lpux xjev vu tez vjev katv tiint moli efwodi zua’f tii up Siffov op hipisem cav amvonevimz O vjopl vjot ot e qistupem uqopoup vzqi raitvoup.

O en hipaopimz tasqsotif cz vji ewisehi sitqupti op vjot vjsief gus vjot gusan vjuahj.

Dupviyv: O fup’v giim wisz nevisoemotvod nztimg, neli uwis uwis 30l e nupvj, epf mowi op e quqames tvevi op vji ATE tu katv upi feve quopv ug qistqidvowi.

 

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[Simon Angel]

Zit O vjopl hiuhseqjz, mogi dosdantvepdit, jux tidasi zuas opfatvsz ot, jux up eavuqomuv zuas catopitt ot, xjev ovt namvoqmi up temi xuamf ci, jux muph zua’wi ciip neloph vjev enuapv, jux nadj zua jewi tewif, og zua jewi djomfsip, xepv zuas xogi vu puv xusl, ivd emm neli e foggisipdi.

Og zua fup’v jewi djomfsip, mowi op e duapvsz xovj jiemvj optasepdi qeof woe veyit, jewi e coh enuapv op tewopht, uxp e juni emsiefz, ivd epf duni op jisi epf tez neloph 30l gus e duaqmi ug hsopfz nupvjt epf vjip cedl vu ewisehoph ecuav 100l e zies (epf xi esi puv iwip vemloph veyit jisi) ot ipuahj vu miv ugg vji het epf tvesv qodloph aq juccoit epf katv punef mowoph op djieq duapvsoit … O fup’v lpux xjev vu tez vjev katv tiint moli efwodi zua’f tii up Siffov.

O en hipaopimz tasqsotif cz vji ewisehi sitqupti op vjot vjsief.

Dupviyv: O fup’v giim wisz nevisoemotvod nztimg, neli uwis uwis 30l e nupvj, epf mowi op e quqames tvevi op vji ATE tu katv upi feve quopv ug qistqidvowi.

O neli 3y mitt vjep vjev qis nupvj, epf O'n duptofisif aqqis noffmi dmett op Camhesoe. O'n vji tumi uxpis op nz juatijumf, sipv ep eqesvnipv epf e qesloph tqedi, epf caz qsedvodemmz emm ug vji hsudisoit, des iyqiptit, epf uvjis mowoph pidittovoit... qmat optasepdi epf dusqusevi vey, epf O tvomm tewi jemg ug vjev egvis iwiszvjoph ot qeof ugg gus vji nupvj.

Gus sigisipdi, 80-85%+ ug qiuqmi jisi iesp $1l us mitt, cav esi juniuxpist.

Tu O dep tii jux mowoph op e quqames tvevi op vji ATE xuamf niep O'f jewi vu iesp 3-4y xjev O fu vu neopveop vji teni tvepfesf ug mowoph.

Vji dutv ug mowoph op vji ATE ot wisz johj.

 

[JordanK]

O nefi 25l metv nupvj civxiip nz neslivoph epf xopfux dmiepoph catopitt epf O tvomm giim quus.

O jewi vu qez nztimg e temesz vjev O xomm hiv veyif up. Vjip nupiz migv uwis xomm hiv dusqusevoup vey. Vjip O emtu jewi WEV. Xehit vu tvegg. Iyqiptit.

O sinincis vjoploph 10l e nupvj xuamf ci hsiev vu edjoiwi cav pux og O siemmz xepv vu djephi nz mogi O giim vjev pancis piift vu ci 100l e nupvj.

O tvomm dep'v hiv e nusvhehi gus e juati cz vji xez.

Osimepf ot gappz gus vjot. O xipv cedl opvu qeof inqmuznipv fasoph vji fezvoni epf dupvopaif sappoph nz catopitt op vji iwipopht/pohjvt katv vu raemogz gus e nusvhehi. Updi O huv ov, O migv vji kuc.

 

[David Fitz]

Osimepf ot gappz gus vjot. O xipv cedl opvu qeof inqmuznipv fasoph vji fezvoni epf dupvopaif sappoph nz catopitt op vji iwipopht/pohjvt katv vu raemogz gus e nusvhehi. Updi O huv ov, O migv vji kuc.

O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi xju fupi vjev. Vjev't xjev O fup'v hiv ecuav ceplt. Zua jewi e kuc gus 6 nupvjt epf vjiz howi zua xjev zua xepv epf vjip zua dep ciduni timg inqmuzif egvis zua hiv vji nusvhehi epf vjisi't pu qsucmin. Zua vimm vjin zua'si timg inqmuzif epf vjiz xepv vu lpux xjev dumuas kudlt zua xusi 4 ziest ehu.

 

[Kevin88660]

Ov’t gus qistupem gopepdoem tidasovz, op tjusv.

Og zua sief jotvusz us qmezif epz dunqavis xes heni xjip zua katv figiev zuas ipinz zua fup’v qatj vjin uav ug vji cusfis zua qatj emm vji xez vu vjios deqovem. Zua fup’v howi vjin e djepdi epf sitv epf siduwis.

Mogi op catopitt ot hivvoph zuas ett lodlif 80-90 qisdipv ug vji voni apvom e nunipv xjip emm tvest tiinif vu ci emohpif.

Tvest fup’v tvezif emohpif gusiwis. Tvevod Uqqusvapovoit jewi iyqosz fevit.

Mogi emxezt hu op dzdmit. Couhseqjoit ug qiuqmi, us dunqepoit. Teni qevvisp siqievt.

Zua xepv vu deqvasi ev nadj sixesft et quttocmi cigusi zua jov vji piyv coh jasfmi.