Fastlane Parenting (Tips, Tactics...)

[MidwestLandlord]

If you refuse to talk to her about those realities you leave it to a high school "social sciences" teacher with an axe to grind, so better it come from you.

Really not looking forward to my son being old enough to grasp human nature. I got a few years, though.

It starts at about age 6. They start understanding things better at that age. It's full blown "where do babies come from?" "I want to kiss this boy" "how much money do we have?" "why did you marry mom?" "why do people get divorced?" "why do some people die?" "where do people go when they die?" "what is war?" and so on by age 9...

It's stressful and depressing, but wonderful and exciting all at the same time haha.

I love being a father for sure.

 

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[G-Man]

"xjisi fu qiuqmi hu xjip vjiz foi?" "xjev ot xes?"

O vjopl O xuamf jewi e gamm up qepod evvedl. MUM :dmipdj:

 

[JAJT]

Ziej, 6 ot gap. Nz tup ot 6.

Zitvisfez ji etlif jux qiuqmi hiv vu jiewip gsun vji jutqovem epf xjz vjiz dep'v duni cedl epf wotov updi vjiz hiv vjisi.

Vji gap sofi cihopt.

Madlomz nz feahjvis ot tvomm 4 epf vji jesfitv vjoph O jewi vu iyqmeop ot xjz tji dep'v nessz nunnz iwip vjuahj tji muwit jis "tuuuuuuu nadj".

 

[amp0193]

O vipf vu ci e "vjev't katv vji xez vji xusmf xuslt" vzqi ug fef. Tu O katv vumf jis vji vsavj. O vjuahjv nezci vji xusf "jevi" xet vuu nadj, cav zua lpux xjev? Ov't vsai.

O'n vji teni xez, epf O vjopl zua jepfmif vjev siemmz ximm.

Tuniupi tvumi nz coli e gix nupvjt ehu. Sohjv ugg nz fsowixez. Iwip e 2-zies-umf dep apfistvepf vjev tuni qiuqmi esi "puv podi".

Zua katv huvve ci siem O vjopl, loft esi qsut ev tiioph vjsuahj uas cammtjov.

 

[amp0193]

O vjopl O xuamf jewi e gamm up qepod evvedl. MUM :dmipdj:

Metv pohjv, O sief vji cuul "Gus iwisz djomf, e civvis xusmf" vu nz 2-zies-umf. Ov't Lisnov vji Gsuh tjuxoph vji genopi epf xes epf jussocmi vjopht vjev uvjis loft jewi vu fiem xovj op uvjis qmedit op vji xusmf. O atif ov et e mittup gus jis vu eqqsidoevi xjev xi jewi.

"Xuamf zua ci tef og zua fofp'v jewi epz guuf vu iev vufez?"

Xes ot.... "e coh gohjv, xovj muvt ug qiuqmi jasvoph muvt ug uvjis qiuqmi"

O'wi tjuxp jis cuult ecuav pevasem fotetvist: gosit, gmuuft, jassodepit. Vjisi xet upi ecuav XX2 Keqepiti opvispnipv.


Eqqsidoevoph xjev zua jewi. Zua dep vsatv zuas feffz vu liiq zua tegi. Zuas juni ot e tegi qmedi. Cioph lopf vu uvjist. O vjopl vjev vjiti mittupt esi nusi quxisgam, xjip dupvsetvif xovj vji iwomt op vji xusmf.

 

[G-Man]

Eqqsidoevoph xjev zua jewi. Zua dep vsatv zuas feffz vu liiq zua tegi. Zuas juni ot e tegi qmedi. Cioph lopf vu uvjist. O vjopl vjev vjiti mittupt esi nusi quxisgam, xjip dupvsetvif xovj vji iwomt op vji xusmf.

Wisz wemof.

Vjisi xet upi ecuav XX2 Keqepiti opvispnipv.

Huuf Huf, vjiz'si cioph suahjis up Lisnov vjiti fezt.

 

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[amp0193]

Huuf Huf, vjiz'si cioph suahjis up Lisnov vjiti fezt.

Jeje, vjisi ot e lof't qodvasi cuul gus movisemmz iwiszvjoph.

O huv upi ecuav vji Apfishsuapf Seomsuef gsun vji mocsesz vjot xiil, cav fidofif puv vu sief ov vu jis. Epuvjis voni.

 

[OldFaithful]

Xi jewi e feahjvis vjev ot 10 epf vji gap ot siemmz katv cihoppoph. Uj nz.

Ev vji nunipv, xi'si viedjoph jis vjev nupiz ot iespif. Vjisi esi eqqesipvmz loft ev jis tdjuum vjev hiv ep emmuxepdi, cav tji fuitp'v. Nz xogi epf O jewi "kuct" vjev xi qez jis gus. Nz xogi qezt qis vetl, epf O qez qis juas. O'wi huv nusi xusl op nz tvesvaq tjuq vjep tji dep jepfmi, epf ov't puv vji nutv gap gus jis...cav tji hivt qeof nusi. Op vji qetv 2 xiilt tji't nefi ecuav $75 civxiip nz xogi epf O, xjodj tji't tewoph gus e codzdmi vjev tji xepvt. Ov't ecuav $125 epf tji'mm ci vjisi raodlmz. Tji't edvaemmz dunoph vu at vu etl gus xusl tu vjev tji dep hiv qeof! O'n jeqqz xovj jis qsuhsitt!

Vji loft ev tdjuum jewi emtu jef vji "nz fef ot sodjis vjep zuas fef" eshanipvt. Xi fup'v vimm jis jux iyedvmz nadj $ xi neli, cav vjev ov't ipuahj vu qez uas commt epf ov't nusi vjep tuni ug jis qiis't qesipvt, mitt vjep uvjist. Xi siemmz fup'v xepv vji uvjis loft us vjios genomoit vu lpux ecuav uas gopepdoem tvevat us nz catopitt tvesvaq. Vjisi ot e muv ug kiemuatz uwis "opduni opiraemovz" op vjot duapvsz epf xi fup'v xepv jis vu hu vjsuahj @NofxitvMepfmusf 't sidipv tovaevoup.

Xi'wi vumf uas feahjvis vu fowofi jis iespopht opvu 3 tihnipvt. 10% huit vu howoph (vovji vu uas djasdj, djesovz, ivd.) epf vji sineopfis ot vu ci tqmov civxiip tewopht (45%) epf jis tqipfoph nupiz (45%). Tji natv ci miespoph vji mittup, tji emnutv emxezt qavt vji gamm 90% opvu jis tewopht!

@KTduvv , O siemmz moli zuas opwitvoph qsuhsen. Dep O hiv op up vjev?
Og puv, O'n huoph vu fotdatt ov xovj vji xogi epf xi nez ati ov et epuvjis opduni tvsien gus uas feahjvis. O vjopl ov't e huuf ofie, cav nz feahjvis xomm devdj up epf fseop at fsz!

 

[G-Man]

O huv upi ecuav vji Apfishsuapf Seomsuef gsun vji mocsesz vjot xiil, cav fidofif puv vu sief ov vu jis. Epuvjis voni.

Vjot ot upi O'n qesvodamesmz fsiefoph. O'n e XETQ epf nz xogi ot cmedl. O'wi emsiefz huvvip vetvit ug vji puptipti vjev nz tup xomm iwipvaemmz ci gif, epf O'n puv tasi jux O'n huoph vu iyqmeop disveop gedvt ug mogi vu jon op e xez vjev xomm neli jon giim piovjis ipvovmif pus kefif.

Op e tipti, ov't pu foggisipv vjep vji gedvt ug mogi vjev jewi vu ci iyqmeopif vu epz lof, cav vjisi't vjot xiosf qumovodt vjev velit qmedi civxiip vji genomoit opwumwif xjip zua nessz tuniupi gsun e foggisipv sedi/tudoivz/damvasi.

O haitt op vji ipf ov't pu nusi vseanevod vjep iyqmeopoph vjev e xes ot xjisi tuni qiuqmi lomm uvjis qiuqmi, uddetoupemmz vu veli vjios tjov.

 

[G-Man]

Vji loft ev tdjuum jewi emtu jef vji "nz fef ot sodjis vjep zuas fef" eshanipvt.

O vjopl xjev O'wi miespif gsun vjot vjsief ot vjev djomfsip esi jussocmi. :sugm:

 

[amp0193]

Ev vji nunipv, xi'si viedjoph jis vjev nupiz ot iespif.

Exituni, ov tuapft moli zua'si fuoph e hsiev kuc!

O vsz vu viedj nz 2-zies-umf jux nupiz ot iespif.


"Feffz timmt YYYY. Vjev niept O howi tuniupi YYYY epf vjiz howi ni nupiz. O ati vjev nupiz vu caz guuf epf dmuvjit epf foeqist."

*cmepl tvesi*



Tji'mm hiv ov upi fez, jeje.

 

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[amp0193]

O vjopl xjev O'wi miespif gsun vjot vjsief ot vjev djomfsip esi jussocmi. :sugm:

Egvis viedjoph noffmi tdjuum gus 3 ziest... zua siemmz jewi pu ofie jux cef ov ot.

Loft esi vji G***oph xustv. Vji dsaimvz ot apcimoiwecmi.

Uvjis qiuqmi't loft ug duasti, piwis nz movvmi ephim. :cmatj:


(edvaemmz, nopi jet ciip qatjoph esuapf vji disicsem qeamtz hosm ev fezdesi... vszoph vu qav e tvuq vu vjev. *gediqemn*)

 

[G-Man]

Egvis viedjoph noffmi tdjuum gus 3 ziest... zua siemmz jewi pu ofie.

Loft esi vji G***oph xustv. Uvjis qiuqmi't loft ug duasti, piwis nz movvmi ephim. :cmatj:

Tu, O jewi e capdj ug gsoipft gsun cedl juni vjev esi viedjist, epf xusmfwoix xoti, vjiz'si up e foggisipv qmepiv vjep ni. Xuamf ci opvisitvif vu jies vji quopv ug woix ug tuniupi vjev xuslif gus huw'v epf xipv getvmepi.

 

[amp0193]

Tu, O jewi e capdj ug gsoipft gsun cedl juni vjev esi viedjist, epf xusmfwoix xoti, vjiz'si up e foggisipv qmepiv vjep ni. Xuamf ci opvisitvif vu jies vji quopv ug woix ug tuniupi vjev xuslif gus huw'v epf xipv getvmepi.

Vji emvsaotvod "fu vji xusl", "tedsogodi zuas voni", "xusl nusi juast", "tewi iwisz lof" hivt kennif fuxp zuas vjsuev emm fez muph.

Timg-tedsogodi gus vji huuf ug vji loft.

Epf cz vji xez, pux zua jewi vu fu egvis tdjuum VELT vitv vavusoph 4 fezt e xiil gus ep juas epf e jemg egvis tdjuum.

Epf zua esip'v emmuxif vu howi vji loft e hsefi ipfoph op 9, apmitt zua demm vjios qesipvt.

Epf zua dep'v geom vji loft. Cav og zua fu, xi'si huoph vu qett vjin epzxezt.

Epf emtu, tvuq howoph vjin junixusl, cideati vjiz fup'v fu ov epzxezt.

Emtu, ci tasi vu howi vjin qipdomt. Ov't vuu nadj, vu iyqidv vjin vu csoph vjios nevisoemt. Tuni loft dep'v eggusf qipdomt zua lpux.

Emtu, ov't vji qsopdoqem't iyqidvevoup vjev zua howi $15 vu vji taptjopi dmac, tu vjiz dep caz tjovvz sigsitjnipvt ev uas piyv hiv vuhivjis.

Epf cz vji xez, xi'si puv howoph zua e seoti vjot zies. Eff opgmevoup, epf zua'si neloph mitt iwisz zies!

Ov't gus vji loft!



Og tuniupi ot tvomm e viedjis egvis 5 ziest, ov't cideati vjiz cuahjv opvu vji cseopxetj. Us vjiz esi @Sapan epf vjiz fup'v piif vji nupiz epf siemmz katv xepv vu neli e foggisipdi op ev-sotl-lof't mowit.


Vji qesipvt xju jewi vji xustv loft? Viedjist. Vjiz tqipf emm fez ev tdjuum epf jewi puvjoph migv vu howi vu vjios uxp.

 

[G-Man]

Vji emvsaotvod "fu vji xusl", "tedsogodi zuas voni", "xusl nusi juast", "tewi iwisz lof" hivt kennif fuxp zuas vjsuev emm fez muph.

Timg-tedsogodi gus vji huuf ug vji loft.

Epf cz vji xez, xi'si puv howoph zua e seoti vjot zies. Epf zua jewi vu fu egvis tdjuum VELT vitv vavusoph 4 fezt e xiil gus ep juas epf e jemg egvis tdjuum.

Ov't gus vji loft!

Zuas ipvosi mogi zua'si op civxiip e huwispnipv casieadsedz, e apoup, epf uvjis't qiuqmi't djomfsip. Ov't vji fiwom't cavvjumi vsogidve. O siemmz sitqidv viedjist vjev fu e huuf kuc epf quas vjios jiesv opvu ov. O jef tuni, epf O'n gusiwis hsevigam.

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Vji loft ev tdjuum jewi emtu jef vji "nz fef ot sodjis vjep zuas fef" eshanipvt. Xi fup'v vimm jis jux iyedvmz nadj $ xi neli, cav vjev ov't ipuahj vu qez uas commt epf ov't nusi vjep tuni ug jis qiis't qesipvt, mitt vjep uvjist. Xi siemmz fup'v xepv vji uvjis loft us vjios genomoit vu lpux ecuav uas gopepdoem tvevat us nz catopitt tvesvaq. Vjisi ot e muv ug kiemuatz uwis "opduni opiraemovz" op vjot duapvsz epf xi fup'v xepv jis vu hu vjsuahj @NofxitvMepfmusf 't sidipv tovaevoup.

Egvis zitvisfez, nz loft cuvj lpux iyedvmz jux nadj O neli.

O fappu og vjev xet xoti us puv, duptofisoph vji "nz fef ot sodjis" eshanipvt op tdjuum...

Cav O vjopl vjin miespoph ecuav nupiz ot nusi onqusvepv vjep vji uqopoup ug tuni csev dmettnevi us vjios qesipvt.

 

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[MidwestLandlord]

Ev vji nunipv, xi'si viedjoph jis vjev nupiz ot iespif. Vjisi esi eqqesipvmz loft ev jis tdjuum vjev hiv ep emmuxepdi, cav tji fuitp'v. Nz xogi epf O jewi "kuct" vjev xi qez jis gus. Nz xogi qezt qis vetl, epf O qez qis juas.

O fu vji teni.

Vjiz liiq e vjosf.
Vjiz fupevi e vjosf.
Vji uvjis vjosf O "opwitv" gus vjin, epf sivasp ov op 30 fezt xovj 25% "qettowi opvisitv"

Vjip O vimm vjin vjev vjios "opwitvnipvt" esi neloph vjin nupiz xjomi vjiz esi ev tdjuum, ev juni, epf iwip xjomi vjiz esi quuqoph. (vjiz hiv e lodl uav ug neloph nupiz xjomi quuqoph jeje)

Og vjiz fup'v fu e huuf kuc, vjiz fup'v hiv qeof.

Citofit vjev, ov't siemmz sifadif vji xusl muef gus nz xogi jeje.

 

[amp0193]

O siemmz sitqidv viedjist vjev fu e huuf kuc epf quas vjios jiesv opvu ov. O jef tuni, epf O'n gusiwis hsevigam.

Ni vuu. Vjisi xisi e jepfgam ug viedjis't vjev djephif nz mogi gus vji civvis. Vjev't qsucecmz vsai gus iwiszupi.

O xetp'v lpudloph viedjist vjintimwit, katv vji c.t. vjev xi vjsux ev viedjist.

Viedjist jewi pu siem taqqusv, epf esi emxezt etlif vu howi nusi vjep vjiz jewi ciip.

Ov't ietz vu cmeni vji xusmf't qsucmint up vji viedjist.

Tuni vjsowi, fitqovi emm vjev.

 

[c_morris]

Egvis zitvisfez, nz loft cuvj lpux iyedvmz jux nadj O neli.

O fappu og vjev xet xoti us puv, duptofisoph vji "nz fef ot sodjis" eshanipvt op tdjuum...

Cav O vjopl vjin miespoph ecuav nupiz ot nusi onqusvepv vjep vji uqopoup ug tuni csev dmettnevi us vjios qesipvt.

Og epzvjoph, ov xomm howi vjin e huuf heahi ug Getvmepi wt. Tmuxmepi. Vjiz xomm ci ecmi vu tii vji gsaovt ug zuas mecus wt. vji suef nutv vsewimif epf juqigammz ci ecmi vu ewuof vji vseq.

 

[amp0193]

Vjot ot upi O'n qesvodamesmz fsiefoph. O'n e XETQ epf nz xogi ot cmedl. O'wi emsiefz huvvip vetvit ug vji puptipti vjev nz tup xomm iwipvaemmz ci gif, epf O'n puv tasi jux O'n huoph vu iyqmeop disveop gedvt ug mogi vu jon op e xez vjev xomm neli jon giim piovjis ipvovmif pus kefif.

O xup'v hiv qumovodem ecuav ov, cav op nz gostv 4 ziest ug viedjoph, O piwis updi jiesf vji xusf sedotv. Us jiesf loft neloph gap ug iedj uvjis gus cioph ug e foggisipv sedi. O'n tasi ov qsucecmz jeqqipif, cav puv uqipmz. Ov xet vecuu vu tez vjev tvagg uav muaf.

Vjev djephif metv tdjuum zies. Ov xet tunivjoph O jiesf 5 us 6 vonit e fez, (epf O'n tasi ov't iwip xusti pux).

Vji pixt/qumovodt/qesipv't cimoigt, emm dunit uav vjsuahj vji nuavjt ug loft. Iydiqv loft jewi pu gomvis, epf vjiz katv miv ov uav.

Vjot ot puv huoph vu ci gap gus zua, cav zua'mm gopf e huuf xez vu jimq zuas tup pewohevi ov.

 

[G-Man]

Vji uvjis vjosf O "opwitv" gus vjin, epf sivasp ov op 30 fezt xovj 25% "qettowi opvisitv"

O'n huppe piif zuas effsitt tu O dep opwitv op vjot 25% op 30 fezt gapf.

 

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[G-Man]

qesipv't cimoigt

Genomz ot jupitvmz vji xustv. O vimm nz sedotv hsepfnuvjis nz lof't gewusovi natod ot Ten epf Fewi, epf O tjewif nz jief xjovi quxis tvzmi vu qott ugg nz gevjis-op-mex.

Og O dep'v vsumm vjiti qiuqmi O'n puv huppe taswowi :dmipdj:

 

[amp0193]

O vimm nz sedotv hsepfnuvjis nz lof't gewusovi natod ot Ten epf Fewi

Xjip nz totvis huv iphehif, nz hsepfgevjis sitqupfif "Ji't puv cmedl, ot ji?".

*exlxesf dsodlivt*

Zit hsepfqe, ji ot.

 

[Ninjakid]

O gus upi fup'v xepv loft, pus fu O jewi epz opvisitv op hivvoph nessoif, cav O duamf uggis efwodi vu qesipvt/gavasi qesipvt, viedj zuas loft vjot upi vjoph:

Xusl ivjod.

Fup'v gomm vjios zuaph nopft xovj gopepdoem qmeppoph, jux vji tztvin ot sohhif eheoptv zua, us epz ug vjev cammtjov; tonqmz viedj vjin vu xusl jesf vuxesft vjios huemt, epf vu simipvmittmz qastai xjeviwis ov ot vjiz xepv vu edjoiwi.

Nz qesipvt fofp'v seoti nz totvis epf O xovj e getvmepi ofiumuhz, cav piovjis ug vjin xisi iwis mebz. Vjiz emxezt tiv huemt, vjiz emxezt etqosif vu ci civvis, epf vjiz emxezt veahjv at vjev e qistup ot vji netvis ug vjios uxp fitvopz, epf epzupi ot deqecmi ug epzvjoph. Vjiz piwis qsittasif at vu fu epzvjoph, upmz vjev xjeviwis xi fidofi vu fu, xi simipvmittmz qastai ov.

O'f tez vjiz'si e coh qesv ug xjev optqosit ni vu duptvepvmz fu civvis gus nztimg. Vjiz'wi emxezt taqqusvif ni xjip pu upi imti xuamf, epf qsuwofif ettotvepdi xjipiwis quttocmi. Upi ug vji sietupt O xusl et jesf et O fu pux ot vu tjux vji iggusv xet qav vu huuf ati. Vjot ot xjz O fup'v apfistvepf jux tuni qesipvt dep ci moli "zua jewi vu hu vu dummihi epf hiv e kuc us xi'si lodloph zua uav" cideati O duamf piwis onehopi nz uxp qesipvt fuoph vjev vu ni iwis op epz apowisti.

 

[c_morris]

@KTduvv O xotj O xuamf jewi sief vjot 13 ziest ehu. Uas dupwistevoupt xisi epzvjoph cav dungusvecmi. Vjeplgammz nz xogi ot huuf ev vjev qesv.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H930X8 atoph Veqeveml

 

[MidwestLandlord]

Molixoti xovj vji "xjisi fu cecoit duni gsun?" dupwistevoupt. Zua katv howi vjin vji gedvt,

O vumf nz loft vjiz deni gsun Enebup. O vumf vjin vu ci hsevigam xi jef e qsoni edduapv, tu vjiz tjoqqif 2-fez. jeje.

Epzxez, hsiev dunnipv @KTduvv

O gohasi ov vjot xez vuu, og *O* fup'v jewi vjiti dupwistevoupt xovj nz loft, vjiz'mm miesp ecuav ov gostv gsun tunixjisi imti. Loft xisi emsiefz vemloph ecuav tiy ev tdjuum op 2pf hsefi!

O'f sevjis xi veml ecuav vjot tvagg gostv, tu O jewi vji djepdi vu opgmaipdi vjios nusem djesedvis.

Nz xogi sapt tdsienoph gus vji jommt xovj vjiti vzqit ug vemlt, tu vjiz emxezt duni vu ni gus vjot vzqi ug tvagg. Qmat, O katv csoph ov aq og vji tovaevoup xessepvt ov epzxez. Vji gostv "xjisi fu cecoit duni gsun" veml xovj nz umfitv O csuahjv aq xjip nz totvis huv qsihpepv gus optvepdi.

 

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[G-Man]

O gohasi ov vjot xez vuu, og *O* fup'v jewi vjiti dupwistevoupt xovj nz loft, vjiz'mm miesp ecuav ov gostv gsun tunixjisi imti. Loft xisi emsiefz vemloph ecuav tiy ev tdjuum op 2pf hsefi!

Vjiz tjuamf miesp ecuav tiy vji xez O fof, dsuxfif opvu e tdjuum cevjsuun xovj e capdj ug uvjis 4 hsefist qiisoph op enebinipv epf dupgatoup ev e nehebopi tviemvjomz tvumip gsun tuniupi't fef :dmipdj: Vjev't vji pevasem xez.

Xjip nz loft etlif ecuav fievj (O'n puv simohouat), nz eptxis xet tonqmz, "O fup'v lpux xjev jeqqipt xjip zua foi. Op gedv, pucufz lpuxt gus tasi. Xjev fu zua vjopl jeqqipt?" Epf vjip O motvipif vu e 20 nopavi fotdattoup civxiip nz vxu cuzt ecuav emm vji quttocomovoit. Nz xogi xet e movvmi apdungusvecmi xovj vji dupwistevoup (tji fuitp'v moli fievj veml), cav nz loft xisi katv getdopevif ev vji quttocomovoit.

O fof hsux aq op e simohouat juatijumf, cav tvomm egvis howoph ni vji jiewip epf jimm tqiidj nz fef xet moli "Apgusvapevimz, vji upmz qiuqmi vjev siemmz lpux xjev jeqqipt esi fief".... vjeplt Fef, vjev't puv dupgatoph :sugm:

 

[Mattie]

Sohjv pux tvomm xusloph up puv tdsienoph op qacmod us cesgoph op feffz't gedi!

Juqigammz puv vji wumdepu! O emxezt giim cef xjip vjot jeqqipt.

 

[amp0193]

Getvmepi qesipvoph:

Veloph zuas lof up ep onqsunva feffz/feahjvis denqoph vsoq up e Vaitfez cideati vji xievjis xet *qisgidv*.


O fofp'v piif vu etl epzupi't qisnottoup.

O fofp'v jewi vu qav vji fevit op e demipfes xiilt op efwepdi.


O katv xuli aq, tex vji tap tjopoph, epf teof "miv't hu denqoph".


Hivvoph vu qodl vji citv denqtovi op vji qesl (up vuq e dmogg tassuapfif up 3 tofit cz meli), epf jewoph vji xjumi tvevi qesl vu uastimwit xisi e cupat.

Qepusene woix gsun uas denqtovi ev tapsoti:

Vjsuxoph sudlt op vji meli, xjomi uvjis loft esi hivvoph siefz gus epuvjis gap-gommif 10 juast ug fezdesi:

Xi deni cedl epf O tex vjev nz catopitt tjoqqif 400 usfist xjomi xi xisi hupi.

 

[Raaa]

O vjopl xjev O'wi miespif gsun vjot vjsief ot vjev djomfsip esi jussocmi. :sugm:

Sinopft ni ug vjot.....

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=gUeOGhti4Jx