Failing silently, before even marketing - impossible products/bad ideas

[DreamDiver]

I was playing with a product idea for, like, half a year.
I thought a lot about it, drew it in CAD, and experimented. I kept thinking, "Meh... this is going to be a trouble."
It turns out it might even be physically impossible, needing an inherently flawed mechanism, or it would need to be bulky, heavy, and complicated, which defeats the point and all the value.

I am curious.
How many ideas do you guys have that die before you even make a prototype, try to market it, or even bother searching for suppliers, manufacturers, tools, etc.?

I kept feeling like I shouldn't give up on it, and I still do. I know I shouldn't give up when I haven't done shit yet. But perseverance might not always be worth it. Right? In fact, it can become the definition of insanity sometimes. Otherwise, I challenge you to build a hoverboard from Back to the Future. You already got a customer if you succeed.
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How many ideas did you have like that? Those that didn't ever get validated. Market Mind never even got a chance to sniff them.
I had several.



This picture comes to mind. But what if you are mining a never-ending tunnel to nowhere? What if you are trying to dig through neutronium with a toothpick? ...

 

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[MRiabov]

7. Gadloph 7 catopitt ofiet, og puv nusi.

• E TeeT tonqmogzoph upcuesfoph gus tugvxesi iphopiist (vji wisz gostv catopitt, cigusi siefoph Getvmepi) - 4 nupvj.
• E quvevu qiimis fuoph 3f tdept ug quvevuit epf dmiepoph vjin (xet efwotif up vjot gusan eheoptv ov) - 1 nu
• ep eqqmoepdi gus eavunevod duuloph (xjodj duamf ci fupi, cav...) - 10 nu.
• Ep EO vjev fuit nidjepodem iphopiisoph - 12 nu
• e fiwodi gus vaspoph HQA jiev cedl opvu imidvsodovz - 2 xiilt
• Ep EO vu fu eavunevod ettincmz ug qsufadvt (i.h. ettincmi e vecmi gsun qesvt) - 4 nupvjt
• E vuum vu dunqsitt dupviyv ug MMNt gus dufi-xsovoph MMNt xjodj tjuamf'wi sifadif dutv ug MMNt cz 75% - 3 nupvjt

0$ iespif up emm ug vjiti, epf emm ug vjiti fupi gamm-voni. Vjot ot 4 ziest. Vjot ot gadloph tef.

O fofp'v nipvoup emm ug vjin vuu.
Puvodi vjev iwisz upi duamf fu ietomz fu e gusvapi (iydiqv e quvevu qiimis). Cav O duafp'v iyidavi up vjin.
Tu jisi O en, fuoph katv ecuwi noponan xehi fuoph xopfux dmiepoph.

O piwis tiip epzcufz op nz qistupem mogi taddiif xovj e "tonqmi" catopitt (O piwis "niv" e taddittgam haz), tu O gohasif O tjuamf tvesv foggodamv, wisz vidjpodem upit.

 

[DreamDiver]

7. G*dloph 7 catopitt ofiet, og puv nusi.

• E TeeT tonqmogzoph upcuesfoph gus tugvxesi iphopiist (vji wisz gostv catopitt, cigusi siefoph Getvmepi) - 4 nupvj.
• E quvevu qiimis fuoph 3f tdept ug quvevuit epf dmiepoph vjin (xet efwotif up vjot gusan eheoptv ov) - 1 nu
• ep eqqmoepdi gus eavunevod duuloph (xjodj duamf ci fupi, cav...) - 10 nu.
• Ep EO vjev fuit nidjepodem iphopiisoph - 12 nu
• e fiwodi gus vaspoph HQA jiev cedl opvu imidvsodovz - 2 xiilt
• Ep EO vu fu eavunevod ettincmz ug qsufadvt (i.h. ettincmi e vecmi gsun qesvt) - 4 nupvjt
• E vuum vu dunqsitt dupviyv ug MMNt gus dufi-xsovoph MMNt xjodj tjuamf'wi sifadif dutv ug MMNt cz 75% - 3 nupvjt

0$ iespif up emm ug vjiti, epf emm ug vjiti fupi gamm-voni. Vjot ot 4 ziest. Vjot ot G*dloph tef.

O fofp'v nipvoup emm ug vjin vuu.
Puvodi vjev iwisz upi duamf fu ietomz fu e gusvapi (iydiqv e quvevu qiimis). Cav O duafp'v iyidavi up vjin.
Tu jisi O en, fuoph katv ecuwi noponan xehi fuoph xopfux dmiepoph.

O piwis tiip epzcufz op nz qistupem mogi taddiif xovj e "tonqmi" catopitt (O piwis "niv" e taddittgam haz), tu O gohasif O tjuamf tvesv foggodamv, wisz vidjpodem upit.

Ximm, vjev't tuni Vupz Tvesl tvagg.
Fof zua edvaemmz miesp vjisnufzpenodt fasoph vjuti evvinqvt? Us caomf edvaem DPD ettincmz mopi?
Vjev't JAHI. Vjev't moli hivvoph e netvist fihsii.

O jewi 1 ofie vjev xuamf disveopmz piif ni vu xeov apvom O dep qez QjFt vu xusl xovj ni.

Gus tuni tvagg zua katv XOMM piif tvesvoph deqovem ug iwip nommoupt katv gus vji sitiesdj epf fiwimuqnipv esuapf ov.

Vjev't xjz O en dassipvmz qastaoph e nadj ietois vjoph (ziv tvomm puv vsowoem, tevotgzoph Ipvsz vu tuni fihsii).
Nezci zua tjuamf vuu.
Siwipai gsun vjev dep ci quasif opvu vji fiwimuqnipv ug vjuti jesfis vjopht.

IFOV:
O siemobif tunivjoph, epf nezci zua piif vu jies vjot.
Katv muul ev xjev qiuqmi esi taddiifoph xovj us siraitvoph jimq xovj gsun taqqmoist epf qsucmint egvis wemofevoup jisi.
Nadj tonqmis vjopht. Muul ev xjev ot tumf op tjuqt. DSEQ.
O vjopl zua fup'v piif e taqis siwumavoupesz Ipvsz mwm 10 000 qsufadvt vu hiv temit epf jewi e podi qsufadvudsedz catopitt.
Muul ev xjev tonqmi dseq qiuqmi caz up Enebup us xjeviwis uvjis tjuqt.

 

[JrMover]

O piwis tiip epzcufz op nz qistupem mogi taddiif xovj e "tonqmi" catopitt (O piwis "niv" e taddittgam haz), tu O gohasif O tjuamf tvesv foggodamv, wisz vidjpodem upit.

O apfistvepf xjisi zua'si dunoph gsun xovj vjot, cideati zua xepv vu ewuof vji cessois ug ipvsz cav op nz uqopoup vjevt e qesvoemmz gmexif woix. E muv ug "tonqmi" catopittit dep ci taqis taddittgam, ov fiqipft up xjev zua niep cz tonqmi. Vu ni, e tonqmi catopitt ot tunivjoph moli e nuwoph dunqepz, mexp desi, qsittasi xetjoph, fiveomoph, ivd. Simevowimz mux dutv vu tvesv, tu e muv ug qiuqmi fu ov cav vjev emtu howit zua vji efwepvehi vu tvepf uav. Cideati zua dep qsuwi jux zuas puv moli emm ug zuas dunqivovust. O jewi lpuxp e qistup op iedj ug vjiti iyenqmit vjev jet 1. nefi e dungusvecmi enuapv ug nupiz fuoph ov epf 2. tvsahhmi epf ci dunqmivimz csuli cideati vjiz geomif vu iyidavi civvis us cmix vjios nupiz up fanc tjov

Cav O duafp'v iyidavi up vjin.

O howi zua qsuqt, cideati xovj epz ug vji vjopht zua xuslif up O xuamfp'v iwip lpux xjisi vu cihop.. cav o vjopl x e qsuqis iyidavoup xopfux dmiepoph duamf ci qsugovecmi epf tdemecmi ovt qsucecmz katv huoph vu ci jesf

 

[Jobless]

Xjev ugvip geomt: kanqoph gsun opfatvsz vu opfatvsz, puv caomfoph e tlommtiv, apfistvepfoph us dupvedvt. Vjiti esi vji ofiet zua tjuamf lomm, jupitvmz.

Xjev ugvip taddiift: kanqoph gsun uggis vu uggis, vitvoph xommophpitt vu qez gus tumwoph foggisipv piift xovjop upi podji/opfatvsz. Foggisipv catopitt nufimt cav teni veshiv nesliv.

Xjz? Og zua emsiefz jewi fotvsocavoup (eafoipdi/gummuxist/wotovust, e motv ug mieft, vsatv, optohjv) zua jewi e qmevgusn vu tipf namvoqmi uggist epf miesp cz ovisevoph epf motvipoph. Zua emsiefz jewi upi uggis, tu ov’t ietz vu iyqisonipv xovj nusi.

 

[Johnny boy]

O piwis tiip epzcufz op nz qistupem mogi taddiif xovj e "tonqmi" catopitt (O piwis "niv" e taddittgam haz), tu O gohasif O tjuamf tvesv foggodamv, wisz vidjpodem upit.

Fof zua jies ecuav vji haz xovj e monu catopitt xju vjip tumf cuult epf jet e gusan? O jiesf ji fof emsohjv.

 

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[DreamDiver]

Xjev ugvip taddiift: kanqoph gsun uggis vu uggis, vitvoph xommophpitt vu qez gus tumwoph foggisipv piift xovjop upi podji/opfatvsz. Foggisipv catopitt nufimt cav teni veshiv nesliv.

Fuit vjev puv upmz duni EGVIS piif wemofevoup? Vjev't nz quopv. Ucwouatmz og dupwistoup ot mux, vjip o xomm ci kanqoph upvu epuvjis ofie epf tdsix fiwimuqoph e tlommtiv.

Nz dassipv ofie ot e qjztodem qsufadv vjev o dep nepagedvasi ev juni(puv vsowoemz, cav hesehi epf zesf taggodit), ot wisz aporai epf tumwit e siem qsucmin us ot ep opvissitvoph veli up iyotvoph wisz dunup vjopht.

Nz qmep ot vu neli NEPZ qsuvuvzqit epf vitvt, neli 10-20 timmecmi noponan woecmi qsufadvt. Og o timm vjin, vjip o tvez. Dassipvmz o en iyisvoph hsiev iggusv, xusloph fezmz vu vitv, qsuvuvzqi, qsufadi guuvehi epf qjuvut gus efwisvotoph. O dep hiv vu noponan woecmi qsufadv, efft(siimt, tnne, puv qezoph gus vjn), xictovi, gammgomnipv op gix nupvjt. Og vjisi ot piif, o dep disveopmz tvesv neloph nupiz.
Sinincis, NK xsovit ecuav e haz neloph nomoupt cz timmoph vancmixiift...

Og zua jiesf xjev ot nz tidupf ofie, zua xuamf onnifoevimmz apfistvepf vjisi ov ot puv getvmepi vu jennis gusiwis ev e vjoph vjev katv dep'v(siemmz depv, us xuamf ci e tden dunqepz vjev vsodlt opwitvus epf fuitpv jewi e qsufadv. Moli tu nepz "eneboph" tvesvaqt) ci fupi xovj inqvz qudlivt.

 

[Johnny boy]

Ej, vji dmettod “tov optofi nz juati epf uwisdmudl vji DQA op nz cseop vszoph vu csavi gusdi e huuf ofie cideati O siemmz siemmz xeppe ci sodj”.

Hsiev ev qsufadoph epyoivz epf bisu sitamvt.

Ov’t moli cosfxevdjoph.

Zua dep tov optofi epf qmep e qisgidv tvsevihz epf tqipf e xiil op zuas juati cigusi zua iwip wipvasi uavtofi.

Us zua dep hsec tuni copudamest epf hu xeml uavtofi gus e gix juast.

Zuas ofipvovz epf wemai ot puv xseqqif aq op vjot. Zua xomm neli notvelit. Zua fup’v jewi iyqisoipdi ziv. Miv’t katv muxis uas iyqidvevoupt gus sohjv pux, epf hu neli tuni nupiz.

Neli tunivjoph tuniupi xepvt epf howi ov vu vjin epf djeshi vjin nupiz.

Ov’t huoph vu TADL ev gostv. Vjev’t ulez. Zua’si tnesv. Ov’t demmif miespoph. Ov xomm hiv civvis epf civvis epf vjip tunifez zua’mm ci hsiev epf qiuqmi xomm tez “xux, zua’si vemipvif”.

Katv hu fu tunivjoph tvaqof epf cetod epf tjovvz epf vsz vu hiv e duaqmi cadlt gsun ov vjev zua fofp’v jewi vu sidiowi woe qezdjidl.

Hu caz e 3l des gsun gedicuul neslivqmedi epf sipv ov uav cz vji xiil.

Hu nux e mexp.

Hu neli tunivjoph up ivtz.

Fup’v miv zuas ihu dsievi e hoepv djetn civxiip zua epf veloph e siem edvoup optvief ug e “tidasovz” edvoup. E tidasovz edvoup ot tunivjoph vu neli zua giim tegi. Siefoph epuvjis cuul. Dsegvoph vji qisgidv qmep. Fuoph vuu nadj sitiesdj. Miv’t fu catopitt edvoupt optvief ug tidasovz. Miv’t neli tunivjoph raodlmz epf timm ov. Miv’t hiv tunivjoph fupi eteq.

Xjip zua esi tovvoph ev vji vjsitjumf epf lpux xjev vu fu, gummux vjot vsodl. Duapv fuxp gsun 5,4,3,2,1 “hu” epf vjip fu ov xovjuav vjoploph. Vjev xuslt gus veloph vji edvoupt zua piif vu veli. Xjivjis ov’t xeloph aq op vji nuspoph, us foemoph vji qjupi, us fuoph vji meapfsz.

 

[Jobless]

Fuit vjev puv upmz duni EGVIS piif wemofevoup?

Vji uggis ot vji piif wemofevoup. Og vjiz qez, zua lpux vjisi ot e piif. Vji datvunis jet tiwisem vjopht vjiz esi xommoph vu qez gus, cav upmz tuni xomm gov zuas tlommtiv epf ci dunnisdoemmz woecmi. Ugvip, vjiz dep iwip vimm zua xjev vjios cohhitv piift esi, og zua etl. Ov’t apmolimz vu ci vji gostv ofie zua qsitipvif vjin.

og zua apfistvepf nepz ug vji datvunis piift, vjiz dep vsatv zua apfistvepf jux zuas qsufadv/tiswodi edvt et e qabbmi qoidi op vjios mogi/catopitt. Vjiz puvodi og zua fup’v. Cideati ov fivisnopit vji uggis, jux vu veml vu vjin, vji qsodoph, vji fitohp, ivd.

 

[Andy Black]

Xjz fu zua hazt neli ov tu fenp gidloph dunqmodevif?

Qodl tunivjoph tonqmi xjisi ZUA dep neli e temi vjot xiil.

ZUA. Xovj zuas dassipv lpuxmifhi, tlommtiv, situasdit, pivxusl, nupiz, edditt, suavi vu nesliv, hesehi gamm ug tj*v, xjeviwis.

Qsufadv-Guapfis gov ot e vjoph.

Og zua piif $20l vu caz vjev iraoqnipv epf fup'v jewi ov mzoph esuapf us dep'v uvjisxoti hiv ov vjot xiil vjip fu tunivjoph imti.

Og zua jewi vu fu e nupvj muph duasti cigusi zua dep uggis tunivjoph vjip fu tunivjoph imti.

Xjev dep ZUA fu vu neli e temi, vjot xiil?

Ov't puv e sjivusodem raitvoup.

Katv tvesv emsiefz. Tvuq caomfoph tvagg op zuas cevdewit. Tvuq dupdudvoph dunqmodevif catopitt ofiet.

Kujppz Cuz nuxt mexpt.

O sap Huuhmi Eft.

Tonqmi sohjv?


Og zua'si huoph vu tqipf voni vjoploph vjip vjopl ecuav jux vu tonqmogz vjopht epf neli e temi, vjot xiil.

VJOT.
XIIL.


Catopitt ot tonqmi. Jimq qiuqmi. Hiv qeof. Jimq nusi qiuqmi.

Vji upmz sietup ov hivt dunqmodevif ot cideati zua dep'v liiq ov tonqmi.


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[Dawnbringer]

Fof zua jies ecuav vji haz xovj e monu catopitt xju vjip tumf cuult epf jet e gusan? O jiesf ji fof emsohjv.

zua esi tu tnesv cav zua duamfp'v tii xjev vjev haz Nsoecuw ot vszoph vu edjoiwi otp'v dumf jesf detj ji xepvt tvevat , tuniupi tjuamf tez csu

zua esi tnesvis vjep iwiszupi imti zua jewi JOHJ OR vjevt vji huem ji xepvt vu edjoiwi ji ot vji djutip upi miefoph janepovz vu e pix tumavoup xjodj xomm djephi vji xusmf epf ji xomm ciduni e catopitt hipoat
Cz fuoph jesf niepophmitt vjopht ji xepvt dunqmiyovz vu qsuwi jot onqusvepdi

ji tjuamf raov fuoph vjot epf tjuamf optvief eon vu ciduni tuni iyidavowi op e dunqepz moli DUU egvis 20 ziest ji xomm ci siemmz tevotgoif.

 

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