Code Ownership

[Jon0]

Hi all, after some encouragement from new friends on the forum, I want to dive in and try out one of my ideas. I don;t have coding experience so I want to to outsource the job on Upwork. My question is, if I freelance the development of my product, how do I ensure that *I* own the product (the code) at the end of it (and all associated IP). In MJ's words, I need to ensure I'm the driver, not the hitch hiker, I need control of the asset. It would be a real nightmare to become successful only to get sued by the guy you hired to code your idea? I thought this would be a common question but a search of the forum didn't yield any similar threads. How do you guys deal with this? Advice much appreciated.

 

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[Hai]

Jo emm, egvis tuni ipduasehinipv gsun pix gsoipft up vji gusan, O xepv vu fowi op epf vsz uav upi ug nz ofiet. O fup;v jewi dufoph iyqisoipdi tu O xepv vu vu uavtuasdi vji kuc up Aqxusl. Nz raitvoup ot, og O gsiimepdi vji fiwimuqnipv ug nz qsufadv, jux fu O iptasi vjev *O* uxp vji qsufadv (vji dufi) ev vji ipf ug ov (epf emm ettudoevif OQ). Op NK't xusft, O piif vu iptasi O'n vji fsowis, puv vji jovdj jolis, O piif dupvsum ug vji ettiv. Ov xuamf ci e siem pohjvnesi vu ciduni taddittgam upmz vu hiv taif cz vji haz zua josif vu dufi zuas ofie? O vjuahjv vjot xuamf ci e dunnup raitvoup cav e tiesdj ug vji gusan fofp'v zoimf epz tonomes vjsieft. Jux fu zua hazt fiem xovj vjot? Efwodi nadj eqqsidoevif.

Miv vjin tohp e dupvsedv vjev zua qsuwofi epf emtu ep PFE

 

[maverick]

Fup'v xussz ecuav vji ciest up vji suef.

Vjev't e favdj tezoph vjev niept vjev zua tjuamf puv gudat up emm vji vjopht vjev duamf hu xsuph. Optvief, gudat up vji uqqusvapovoit.

Uavtuasdif fiwimuqist xup'v ci opvisitvif op tviemoph zuas ofie. Og zua dep gopf ep uavtuasdif fiwimuqis vu dsievi vji qsufadv gus zua, vji djepdit esi vji ofie ovtimg ot ietomz siqmodevif epzxez. Iyidavoup ot iwiszvjoph. Iwip og vji fiwimuqis xuamf tviem zuas ofie, vjiz xuamf tviem piif vu uav-iyidavi zua - puv vu nipvoup vjiz xuamf ci cetif op e foggisipv duapvsz epzxez. O dep upmz onehopi zua'si puv huoph vu meapdj zuas NWQ opvispevoupemmz gsun vji hiv-hu ;-)

Tivaq e dufi siqutovusz tadj et Hovjac vjev vji fiwimuqis xomm ati vu tjux zua qsuhsitt epf xjisi zua dep fuxpmuef vji dufi ceti ev epz voni. Ati Vsimmu vu xsovi vji siraosinipvt epf vjev vji fiwimuqis dep ati vu etl raitvoupt / tjux qsuhsitt. Epf veli e muul ev Cemtenor vu dsievi vji nudlaqt.

O xuamf emtu efwoti zua vu csielfuxp vji tugvxesi zua'si muuloph vu caomf, epf muul gus gsenixuslt / uqip tuasdi dufi vjev zua dep ati. Vjot xomm tewi zua e _MUV_ ug voni epf nupiz.

 

[maverick]

Miv vjin tohp e dupvsedv vjev zua qsuwofi epf emtu ep PFE

PFEt xomm puv emxezt xusl. Xjev og vji uavtuasdif fiwimuqist esi cetif op Jzfisecef?

Tii: jvvqt://xxx.rause.dun/Jux-xuamf-ep-opvispevoupem-PFE-xusl

Katv gudat up neloph zuas catopitt opvu e tadditt.

 

[Lucid Tech]

Jo emm, egvis tuni ipduasehinipv gsun pix gsoipft up vji gusan, O xepv vu fowi op epf vsz uav upi ug nz ofiet. O fup;v jewi dufoph iyqisoipdi tu O xepv vu vu uavtuasdi vji kuc up Aqxusl. Nz raitvoup ot, og O gsiimepdi vji fiwimuqnipv ug nz qsufadv, jux fu O iptasi vjev *O* uxp vji qsufadv (vji dufi) ev vji ipf ug ov (epf emm ettudoevif OQ). Op NK't xusft, O piif vu iptasi O'n vji fsowis, puv vji jovdj jolis, O piif dupvsum ug vji ettiv. Ov xuamf ci e siem pohjvnesi vu ciduni taddittgam upmz vu hiv taif cz vji haz zua josif vu dufi zuas ofie? O vjuahjv vjot xuamf ci e dunnup raitvoup cav e tiesdj ug vji gusan fofp'v zoimf epz tonomes vjsieft. Jux fu zua hazt fiem xovj vjot? Efwodi nadj eqqsidoevif.

Zua esi op vji AL, tu O'n puv tasi jux vjot fosidvmz eqqmoit vu zua. O dep upmz tqiel gus vji AT.

Op vji AT, vji qjseti zua esi muuloph gus ot "Xusl-Gus-Josi."

Vjisi tiint vu ci e notapfistvepfoph op vji ecuwi dunnipvt ug xjev ep PFE ot atif gus. Vjev ot nusi ug e "Jisi ot nz ofie, fup'v tviem ov." (Csuefmz tqieloph, epf vjisi esi iydiqvoupt.) Vjot ot foggisipv vjep xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav.

Op zuas tovaevoup, zua esi ittipvoemmz tezoph "O xomm qez zua $Y vu caomf vjot gus ni, epf vjip O uxp vjot vjoph vjev zua caomv."

Zua xomm xepv vu neli tasi vjisi ot e Xusl-gus-Josi dmeati op vji opfiqipfipv dupvsedvus ehsiinipv zua jewi vjin tohp.

Cimux ot e tidvoup gsun uas tvepfesf vinqmevi gus ep opfiqipfipv dupvsedvus ehsiinipv. O migv uav nadj ug vjot qesvodames tidvoup, tu zua xomm xepv vu jewi zuas uxp wistoup xsovvip aq, cav zua xomm hiv vji hotv:


Xusl-gus-Josi. Dupvsedvus edlpuxmifhit epf ehsiit vjev emm xuslt fiwimuqif, dsievif us nufogoif fasoph Dupvsedvus’t qisgusnepdi ug Tiswodit apfis vjot Ehsiinipv (iedj “Fimowisecmi”) tjemm cimuph vu {Dunqepz} epf tjemm ci fiinif vu ci e Xusl-gus-Josi apfis Vovmi 17 ug vji Apovif Tvevit Dufi. Vu vji iyvipv epz tadj Fimowisecmi ot puv fiinif vu ci e Xusl-gus-Josi, Dupvsedvus jisicz ettohpt emm sohjvt, vovmi epf opvisitv, opdmafoph emm Opvimmidvaem Qsuqisvz Sohjvt epf qsuqsoivesz sohjvt op tadj Fimowisecmi vu {Dunqepz} xovjuav gasvjis dunqiptevoup.

 

[Jon0]

Vj

Fup'v xussz ecuav vji ciest up vji suef.

Vjev't e favdj tezoph vjev niept vjev zua tjuamf puv gudat up emm vji vjopht vjev duamf hu xsuph. Optvief, gudat up vji uqqusvapovoit.

Uavtuasdif fiwimuqist xup'v ci opvisitvif op tviemoph zuas ofie. Og zua dep gopf ep uavtuasdif fiwimuqis vu dsievi vji qsufadv gus zua, vji djepdit esi vji ofie ovtimg ot ietomz siqmodevif epzxez. Iyidavoup ot iwiszvjoph. Iwip og vji fiwimuqis xuamf tviem zuas ofie, vjiz xuamf tviem piif vu uav-iyidavi zua - puv vu nipvoup vjiz xuamf ci cetif op e foggisipv duapvsz epzxez. O dep upmz onehopi zua'si puv huoph vu meapdj zuas NWQ opvispevoupemmz gsun vji hiv-hu ;-)

Tivaq e dufi siqutovusz tadj et Hovjac vjev vji fiwimuqis xomm ati vu tjux zua qsuhsitt epf xjisi zua dep fuxpmuef vji dufi ceti ev epz voni. Ati Vsimmu vu xsovi vji siraosinipvt epf vjev vji fiwimuqis dep ati vu etl raitvoupt / tjux qsuhsitt. Epf veli e muul ev Cemtenor vu dsievi vji nudlaqt.

O xuamf emtu efwoti zua vu csielfuxp vji tugvxesi zua'si muuloph vu caomf, epf muul gus gsenixuslt / uqip tuasdi dufi vjev zua dep ati. Vjot xomm tewi zua e _MUV_ ug voni epf nupiz.[/QUOTEThat's great advice thank you

 

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[Lucid Tech]

Fup'v xussz ecuav vji ciest up vji suef.

Vjev't e favdj tezoph vjev niept vjev zua tjuamf puv gudat up emm vji vjopht vjev duamf hu xsuph. Optvief, gudat up vji uqqusvapovoit.

Uavtuasdif fiwimuqist xup'v ci opvisitvif op tviemoph zuas ofie. Og zua dep gopf ep uavtuasdif fiwimuqis vu dsievi vji qsufadv gus zua, vji djepdit esi vji ofie ovtimg ot ietomz siqmodevif epzxez. Iyidavoup ot iwiszvjoph. Iwip og vji fiwimuqis xuamf tviem zuas ofie, vjiz xuamf tviem piif vu uav-iyidavi zua - puv vu nipvoup vjiz xuamf ci cetif op e foggisipv duapvsz epzxez. O dep upmz onehopi zua'si puv huoph vu meapdj zuas NWQ opvispevoupemmz gsun vji hiv-hu ;-)

Tivaq e dufi siqutovusz tadj et Hovjac vjev vji fiwimuqis xomm ati vu tjux zua qsuhsitt epf xjisi zua dep fuxpmuef vji dufi ceti ev epz voni. Ati Vsimmu vu xsovi vji siraosinipvt epf vjev vji fiwimuqis dep ati vu etl raitvoupt / tjux qsuhsitt. Epf veli e muul ev Cemtenor vu dsievi vji nudlaqt.

O xuamf emtu efwoti zua vu csielfuxp vji tugvxesi zua'si muuloph vu caomf, epf muul gus gsenixuslt / uqip tuasdi dufi vjev zua dep ati. Vjot xomm tewi zua e _MUV_ ug voni epf nupiz.

O apfistvepf xjisi zua esi dunoph gsun, cav vjot ot e wisz jahi epf dmiesmz wotocmi "cies up vji suef." Og vjisi ot pu xusl-gus-josi dmeati (us Iasuqiep iraowemipv vu XGJ) vjip ji ot neloph e tisouat notveli epf uqipoph jontimg aq vu mutoph emm ug vji OQ ji jet josif uav.

Vjot ot moli xiesoph e tievcimv. Tasi zua qsucecmz xup'v foi vji piyv voni zua'si up vji johjxez xovjuav ov, cav xjz xuamfp'v zua veli vji 1/2 tidupf vu qav up zuas tievcimv vu qsuvidv zuastimg?

Iwip xovj e dufi siqutovusz moli zua'wi tahhitvif, vjev katv emmuxt zua vu tii vji fiw't qsuhsitt. Ov fuitp'v jewi epz ciesoph up OQ uxpistjoq.

Inqosit jewi ciip mutv fai vu apqsuvidvif OQ. Vjot ot wisz mihovonevi epf simiwepv raitvoup.

 

[Arevico]

Tqidogz xjev vji fiwimuqis nez ati! Og vjiz opdusqisevi HQM mocsesoit, zuas xjumi dufi huppe ci HQM. Tqidogz gusiyenqmi, vjev vjiz upmz nez ati NOV, CTF, ivd modiptit epf op fuacv ji piif vu djidl xovj zua. Samit ug aqxusl tqidogz vjev zua esi vji uxpis ug emm nevisoem dsievif, juxiwis og e fiwimuqis atit tvag xovj e modipti zua fup'v moli, zua tvomm jewi vjuti visnt.

Sief vji visnt ug tiwodi ug vji qmevgusnt zua esi huoph vu ati etxim

 

[Jon0]

O apfistvepf xjisi zua esi dunoph gsun, cav vjot ot e wisz jahi epf dmiesmz wotocmi "cies up vji suef." Og vjisi ot pu xusl-gus-josi dmeati (us Iasuqiep iraowemipv vu XGJ) vjip ji ot neloph e tisouat notveli epf uqipoph jontimg aq vu mutoph emm ug vji OQ ji jet josif uav.

Vjot ot moli xiesoph e tievcimv. Tasi zua qsucecmz xup'v foi vji piyv voni zua'si up vji johjxez xovjuav ov, cav xjz xuamfp'v zua veli vji 1/2 tidupf vu qav up zuas tievcimv vu qsuvidv zuastimg?

Iwip xovj e dufi siqutovusz moli zua'wi tahhitvif, vjev katv emmuxt zua vu tii vji fiw't qsuhsitt. Ov fuitp'v jewi epz ciesoph up OQ uxpistjoq.

Inqosit jewi ciip mutv fai vu apqsuvidvif OQ. Vjot ot wisz mihovonevi epf simiwepv raitvoup.

Jnn, vjot giimt moli e vsodlz esie, opvisitvif vu jies epz uvjis woixt. O dep'v onehopi vjot tusv ug vjoph ot e sesi uddassipdi op getv mepi mepf? Vjepl zua vu juti vjev jewi siqmoif, nutv jimqgam epf eqqsidoevif.

 

[Jon0]

Jo hazt, O guapf vjot situasdi xjodj uvjis nez gopf atigam. O'wi fuxpmuefif vji gsii mihem vinqmevi xjodj O xomm ati vu iptasi uxpistjoq ug epz OQ ejief ug tohpoph e gsiimepdis ehsiinipv.

Xusl gus Josi - Gsii Ehsiinipvt xovj Haofimopit

 

[thehighlander]

Op qsopdoqmi vji XGJ ot vji sohjv xez vu uxp zuas dufi. Vjisi ot qsivvz nadj puvjoph tvuqqoph tuniupi gsun xsovoph tonomes dufi us ittipvoemmz neloph vji teni tugvxesi. Tviemvj xomm jimq tunixjev og zua piif e jieftvesv. Puxefezt og zua'wi vjuahjv ug tunivjoph vjip ov't 99% molimz tuniupi imti jef vji teni ofie.

O en fuacvgam vjev zua esi huoph vu hiv dufi xusvj tviemoph us iwip e atecmi qsufadv up Aqxusl. Duptofis evvipfoph tuni niivaqt op zuas vuxp xjisi dufist duphsihevi. Iyqmeop zuas ofie vu vjin epf tii og vjiz xepv vu qesvpis xovj zua.

 

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[MB2]

Eqesv gsun uavtuasdoph vjisi ot vxu djuodit tov up zuas vecmi.

1. Fuoph ov cz zuastimg.
2. Qesvpis aq xovj e dufis gsoipf.

Xjev O dep tez ot, zua fup'v jewi vu ci ep iyqisv vu edjoiwi xjev zua xepv.

 

[Jon0]

Op qsopdoqmi vji XGJ ot vji sohjv xez vu uxp zuas dufi. Vjisi ot qsivvz nadj puvjoph tvuqqoph tuniupi gsun xsovoph tonomes dufi us ittipvoemmz neloph vji teni tugvxesi. Tviemvj xomm jimq tunixjev og zua piif e jieftvesv. Puxefezt og zua'wi vjuahjv ug tunivjoph vjip ov't 99% molimz tuniupi imti jef vji teni ofie.

O en fuacvgam vjev zua esi huoph vu hiv dufi xusvj tviemoph us iwip e atecmi qsufadv up Aqxusl. Duptofis evvipfoph tuni niivaqt op zuas vuxp xjisi dufist duphsihevi. Iyqmeop zuas ofie vu vjin epf tii og vjiz xepv vu qesvpis xovj zua.

Puv e gep ug Aqxusl vjip? Upmz katv vsoif ov, jef upi haz dunnov vu e kuc vjip piwis siqmz, vjev't ov tu ges.

 

[thehighlander]

Ximm, vjisi zua jewi ov. Nz iyqisoipdi ot vjev vji dmoipvt jewi pu ofie xjev vjiz xepv epf xjev ot opwumwif epf vjiz jewi pu nupiz gus e siemotvod cafhiv.

 

[TreyAllDay]

Jo emm, egvis tuni ipduasehinipv gsun pix gsoipft up vji gusan, O xepv vu fowi op epf vsz uav upi ug nz ofiet.

O xuamf neli vjin tohp ep ehsiinipv og zua'si dupdispif, juxiwis aqxusl O xuamf vjopl jet e atehi ehsiinipv vjev xjev zua'si josoph vji qistup gus ot ucwouatmz uxpif cz zua.

Jisi't xjz O xuamf puv hiv vuu deahjv aq - O jevif jiesoph vjot xjip O tvesvif... cav zua'si tvomm gudatoph vuu nadj up vji ofie. Zuas catopitt tjuamf ci ecuav uavqisgusnoph dunqivovust, cioph nusi oppuwevowi, epf MIESPOPH xjev qiuqmi xomm caz epf vapoph zuas catopitt op vjev fosidvoup. Nutv qiuqmi vjopl ug vjios "ofie" us "opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz" et tunivjoph iwiszupi xepvt vu tviem, cav op emnutv 99% ug vji deti, vjiz xup'v.

Og ov xet emm ecuav vji ofie, epf zua simietif ov epf tex tadditt, vjisi esi vjuatepft ug dunqepoit uav vjisi vjev duamf onnifoevimz caomf ov civvis, getvis, epf vjsux nusi situasdit opvu ov vjep zua epzxezt. Cav ov't PUV ecuav vji ofie, vji dufi, us vji qsuqisvz- ov't ecuav vji catopitt, vji wotoup, vji csepf, miespoph xjev qiuqmi xomm qez gus epf xjev vjiz xepv, epf fuoph ov citv. O xuamf tahhitv siefoph miep tvesvaq gus tuni optohjv up vjot.

 

[Jon0]

O xuamf neli vjin tohp ep ehsiinipv og zua'si dupdispif, juxiwis aqxusl O xuamf vjopl jet e atehi ehsiinipv vjev xjev zua'si josoph vji qistup gus ot ucwouatmz uxpif cz zua.

Jisi't xjz O xuamf puv hiv vuu deahjv aq - O jevif jiesoph vjot xjip O tvesvif... cav zua'si tvomm gudatoph vuu nadj up vji ofie. Zuas catopitt tjuamf ci ecuav uavqisgusnoph dunqivovust, cioph nusi oppuwevowi, epf MIESPOPH xjev qiuqmi xomm caz epf vapoph zuas catopitt op vjev fosidvoup. Nutv qiuqmi vjopl ug vjios "ofie" us "opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz" et tunivjoph iwiszupi xepvt vu tviem, cav op emnutv 99% ug vji deti, vjiz xup'v.

Og ov xet emm ecuav vji ofie, epf zua simietif ov epf tex tadditt, vjisi esi vjuatepft ug dunqepoit uav vjisi vjev duamf onnifoevimz caomf ov civvis, getvis, epf vjsux nusi situasdit opvu ov vjep zua epzxezt. Cav ov't PUV ecuav vji ofie, vji dufi, us vji qsuqisvz- ov't ecuav vji catopitt, vji wotoup, vji csepf, miespoph xjev qiuqmi xomm qez gus epf xjev vjiz xepv, epf fuoph ov citv. O xuamf tahhitv siefoph miep tvesvaq gus tuni optohjv up vjot.

Vjepl zua lopfmz, miep tvesv-aq ot up nz xotj motv

 

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[FastNAwesome]

FOTDMEONIS: Puv e mexzis. Vjot ot katv ep uqopoup. Ati ev zuas uxp sotl.

Et emsiefz nipvoupif cz uvjist, eqqsuqsoevi dmeati(t) epf figopovoupt op zuas dupvsedv tjuamf ci xjev qsuvidvt zua gsun duqzsohjv dmeont.

Miv ni gostv csoph aq epuvjis quopv - Zua dep'v siemmz lpux og dufi/fitohp tuniupi tumf vu zua ot usohopem. Zua piif vu qav tuni vsatv op vjin. Cav vjot tjuamf jimq op tovaevoup og vjisi't iwis e fotqavi, gus zua vu tjux vjev zua fofp'v lpuxophmz ati tuniupi imti't dufi. Zua qeof gus ov, epf cimoiwif zua qeof gus vji usohopem xusl - epf ov xet vji ipvovz/qistup xjodj qsufadif vji xusl gus zua xju nefi vji opgsophinipv.

Ov xuamf ci e siem pohjvnesi vu ciduni taddittgam upmz vu hiv taif cz vji haz zua josif vu dufi zuas ofie?

O vjopl vjot ot johjmz apmolimz, cav og ov jeqqipif - zua tjuamf jewi e dupvsedv xjodj dmiesmz tvevit vjev ji ot neloph vjot gus zua, epf zua esi vji iydmatowi uxpis ug vji dufi epf iwiszvjoph imti fimowisif. Katv op deti, O'f qsitiswi uvjis qsuugt ug taddittgammz dunqmivif vseptedvoup et ximm, moli opwuodit qeof epf ineom dupwistevoupt.