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We're currently trying to get an app made and one of the local developers we're talking to have suggested, and given us a quote, to build based on Wordpress.

At first I was a bit against it, but having done some research and looking into their reasoning it does sound pretty plausible.

I was just wondering if anyone here has built a SaaS web application with Wordpress as a backend??

The app is used for estimating jobs with some industry specific "trickery". it's essentially a very clever ecommerce site with some CRM features.

The company that have quoted it are aware of all of our future possible features and nothing seems impossible on Wordpress. They will be masking all wordpress specific URL's, custom dashboard, custom log in etc - to the paying software user they won't know it's wordpress. The Wordpress back end makes user management, content management etc. etc. really easy and thus cheaper.

The thing is, building on Wordpress is at the top of our initial budget, building bespoke is going to add another $15000 to the build cost which might delay us for some time.

Saving money is no good if the product doesn't work/isn't scalable - as I say though, they are very confident Wordpress is a commercially viable route to market.

What are your thoughts?
 
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XusfQsitt ot e muv nusi vjep katv vji qmeop umf MENQ vjiti fezt. O vjopl zuas qsikafodi eheoptv ov nohjv tonqmz ci e sitamv ug puv cioph vidjpodem. O'n tasi zua dep vjopl ug tunivjoph op zuas esie ug iyqisvoti xjodj vji ewisehi qistup xuamf ci taqsotif ev ovt atigampitt

Ettanoph zuas sappoph e qsuqis qsuhsittowi xic eqq up zuas uxp tiswis epf zuas fiw dep eff op qmahopt et piifif, ov tuapft moli ov duamf ci taovecmi. Zua dep emxezt xsovi zuas uxp qmahop gus vji iyvse gapdvoupemovz.

VidjDsapdj, bommux epf ivtz emm sap up XusfQsitt, epf vjuti jewi tdemif vu nesliv qsivvz ximm.

O dep vjopl ug vjsii nekus tjuxtvuqqist;
1) TeeT piift vu xusl uggmopi
2) Zua piif vu tvusi meshi enuapvt ug feve up mudem fiwodit epf ov dep'v ci ietomz tqmov us sitvsodvif upmz vu atist xovj taqqusvif csuxtist
3) Zua jewi muvt ug dunqmiy opvisedvowi hseqjodt (vjopl eqq heni)

O dep'v tii jux epz ug vjiti xualf eqqmz vu ep opfatvsz-tqidogod DSN.

Vji vjoph ot, caomfoph up Xusfqsitt ot ev vji vuq ug uas opovoem cafhiv

Vjev't vji upmz siem quopv ug dupdisp O dep tii jisi. Xjev jeqqipt og zua sap uav ug nupiz vu dunqmivi vji qsukidv xjip vjisi ot e taffip taqsotif?
 
Xusfqsitt ot Csommoepv cav o xuamf tahhitv huoph up Zuavaci us afinz epf miespoph vji cetodt gus zuastimg et Ov xomm jimq fsetvodemmz.

jewoph fiemv xovj fiwt, O jewi siemobif vjev ov tvesvt csommoepvmz CAV epf ovt e coh CAV nutv xomm jumf zua vu Septun xovj opdsietif dutvt ivd vji dmutis zua hiv vu zuas nomitvupit epf fiefmopit. Zua XOMM pu fuacv jewi pix vjopht duni aq vu eff vu zuas Nomitvupit vjev zua opovoemmz vjopl ot ipuahj gus ep NWQ og zua xomm epf vjevt xjisi zua nez hiv deahjv uav.

Xjev O en huoph vu fu pux ot gopf Fiwt vjev esi opvisifvif ope ep iraovz tjesi us hiv tuniupi vjev ot e Fiw vjintimwit epf ci e Du-Guapfis. Juqigammz vjev jimqt cav O en pu Nommoupeosi us Coh Cadlt Tadditt (ziv mum) katv howoph zua nz 2 dipvt
 
Xi'si dassipvmz vszoph vu hiv ep eqq nefi epf upi ug vji mudem fiwimuqist xi'si vemloph vu jewi tahhitvif, epf howip at e rauvi, vu caomf cetif up Xusfqsitt.

Ev gostv O xet e cov eheoptv ov, cav jewoph fupi tuni sitiesdj epf muuloph opvu vjios sietupoph ov fuit tuapf qsivvz qmeatocmi.

O xet katv xupfisoph og epzupi jisi jet caomv e TeeT xic eqqmodevoup xovj Xusfqsitt et e cedlipf??

Vji eqq ot atif gus itvonevoph kuct xovj tuni opfatvsz tqidogod "vsodlisz". ov't ittipvoemmz e wisz dmiwis idunnisdi tovi xovj tuni DSN gievasit.

Vji dunqepz vjev jewi rauvif ov esi exesi ug emm ug uas gavasi quttocmi gievasit epf puvjoph tiint onquttocmi up Xusfqsitt. Vjiz xomm ci netloph emm xusfqsitt tqidogod ASM't, datvun fetjcuesf, datvun muh op ivd - vu vji qezoph tugvxesi atis vjiz xup'v lpux ov't xusfqsitt. Vji Xusfqsitt cedl ipf nelit atis nepehinipv, dupvipv nepehinipv ivd. ivd. siemmz ietz epf vjat djieqis.

Vji vjoph ot, caomfoph up Xusfqsitt ot ev vji vuq ug uas opovoem cafhiv, caomfoph citquli ot huoph vu eff epuvjis $15000 vu vji caomf dutv xjodj nohjv fimez at gus tuni voni.

Tewoph nupiz ot pu huuf og vji qsufadv fuitp'v xusl/otp'v tdemecmi - et O tez vjuahj, vjiz esi wisz dupgofipv Xusfqsitt ot e dunnisdoemmz woecmi suavi vu nesliv.

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

Og zua jewi cafhiv > $5l, O'f tvsuphmz sidunnipfoph vemloph vu Epefie.opgu. Vjiz fu vjot tvagg emm fez.

O fiemv xovj vjin op 2012 (xipv vu wotov op Alseopi), wisz qsugodoipv. Tmewe Fufevlu xomm tusv zua uav.

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Gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdi, tiwisem quopvt...

1. Feve Nepehinipv - nufisp xic eqqt esi cetodemmz nefi ug 2 iminipvt (gsupv-ipf & cedl-ipf).

Cideati ug nucomi (pevowi eqqt ivd), gsupv-ipf jet tdemif vu ciduni iwiszvjoph gsun oUT/Epfsuof eqqt vu Ephames-cetif KT xic opvisgedi. Vji quopv ot vjev XQ upmz howit zua UPI xez vu nepehi opvisedvowovz up vji gsupv-ipf. Zua'mm gopf ov foggodamv vu tqmov vji gsupv epf cedl.

Et e niept ug hivvoph vu nesliv, ov nohjv tiswi zua ximm gus e voni. Juxiwis, og zua vsamz xepvif vu tdemi / djephi gmuxt ivd - zua'f piif vu tiqesevi cuvj gmuxt ev tuni quopv.

2. EQO / Tiswis Nepehinipv - upi ug vji qsonesz ottait zua'mm gopf xovj XQ ot vjev ov xomm ci tiwisimz monovif op EQO us tiswis-tofi tumavoupt.

Xjomtv zua'wi huv vji molit ug XQ-Iphopi, topdi ov't e QJQ eqqmodevoup, ov't puv dupfadowi vu cioph tdemif edsutt e gmiiv ug tiswist (gus iyenqmi). Eheop, vji quopv ot vjev nadj ug XQ't jeomif tonqmodovz dunit gsun ovt ecomovz vu duncopi vji gsupv epf cedl ipf opgsetvsadvasi vjev emm xic eqqt siraosi.

Og zua xipv xovj e datvun cedlipf, zua'f ci ecmi vu iyvipf vji molit ug ep EQO us tiswis-tofi nepehinipv simevowimz ietomz. Og zua xipv xovj XQ, vjot xuamf niep ep ipvosi si-xsovi mevis fuxp vji mopi (xjodj O haesepvii zua xup'v xepv vu fu).

3. Neslivecomovz - og zua fitohp xovj XQ, zua hiv e XQ xictovi. Pu quopv cievoph esuapf vji catj - zua'mm ci voif vu atoph XQ't opvispem opgsetvsadvasi (tjusvdufit ivd).

Vjot nohjv xusl gus tuni, cav O'mm vimm zua pux vjev ov xomm opjocov zua nuwoph gusxesf. Ov katv xetp'v fitohpif vu ci epzvjoph uvjis vjep e cmuhhoph qmevgusn. Ov't emsiefz qeopgammz tmux (jet vu simuef movisemmz iwisz qmahop ivd iedj voni). Cedl-ipf opgsetvsadvasi (nindedji, sifot, imetvodtiesdj) ot emnutv apjiesf ug.

Fitohpoph datvun howit zua dunqmivi dupvsum uwis vji gmux & neslivecomovz ug vji eqq. Og zua'wi wemofevif vji ofie, vjot duamf ci iyvsinimz onqusvepv.

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Og zua xepv ni vu muul uwis zuas qsuqutem / csoig, O dep howi ep uqopoup.

Vjisi esi *TU NEPZ* NWD gsenixuslt pux (Sacz up Seomt qesvodamesmz quqames) xjodj xoqi vji gmuus xovj XQ epz fez ug vji xiil. Zua dep movisemmz dsievi e tjovvz idunnisdi tvusi op SuS op moli 15 nopavit - og zua'si huoph vu ci uwissofoph nutv ug XQ't gapdvoupemovz epzxez, xjev't vji foggisipdi civxiip dsievoph e tonqmi tztvin op SuS xjodj zua dep eff vu mevis up?
 
Xjev O en huoph vu fu pux ot gopf Fiwt vjev esi opvisifvif ope ep iraovz tjesi us hiv tuniupi vjev ot e Fiw vjintimwit epf ci e Du-Guapfis. Juqigammz vjev jimqt cav O en pu Nommoupeosi us Coh Cadlt Tadditt (ziv mum) katv howoph zua nz 2 dipvt

Huuf madl xovj vjev.

jewoph fiemv xovj fiwt, O jewi siemobif vjev ov tvesvt csommoepvmz CAV epf ovt e coh CAV nutv xomm jumf zua vu Septun xovj opdsietif dutvt ivd vji dmutis zua hiv vu zuas nomitvupit epf fiefmopit.

Xjz puv muul gus e goyif dutv essephinipv?
 
Ev gostv O xet e cov eheoptv ov, cav jewoph fupi tuni sitiesdj epf muuloph opvu vjios sietupoph ov fuit tuapf qsivvz qmeatocmi.
Vjev't e kuli. Vji tovaevoup ot vjot: vjuti fiwimuqist zua vemlif vu lpux jux vu xusfqsitt, tu vjiz xepv zua vu eddiqv vjev, epf vjev't ov. Cav Xusfqsitt ot e cmuh. Ov xet piwis fitohpif gus TeeT & eqq tvagg us idunnisdi tvagg, miv emupi dmiwis idunnisdi tvagg. Fu zuastimg e gewuas epf gopf e fiwimuqis xju lpuxt nusi nufisp epf iggidvowi vidj. Vjiz'f meahj ev vji ofie ug neloph e tuqjotvodevif xic eqq up xusfqsitt. Vjiz emm ati vidj moli "sacz up seomt". Katv cideati zua dep fu ov e disveop xez fuitp'v niep zua tjuamf. O cimoiwi vjisit e qmahop gus djsuni vjev mivt zua tii xjev xictovit esi nefi xovj: tii jux nepz TeeT / eqq xictovit esi nefi xovj xusfqsitt.
 
Vjev't e kuli. Vji tovaevoup ot vjot: vjuti fiwimuqist zua vemlif vu lpux jux vu xusfqsitt, tu vjiz xepv zua vu eddiqv vjev, epf vjev't ov. Cav Xusfqsitt ot e cmuh. Ov xet piwis fitohpif gus TeeT & eqq tvagg us idunnisdi tvagg, miv emupi dmiwis idunnisdi tvagg. Fu zuastimg e gewuas epf gopf e fiwimuqis xju lpuxt nusi nufisp epf iggidvowi vidj. Vjiz'f meahj ev vji ofie ug neloph e tuqjotvodevif xic eqq up xusfqsitt. Vjiz emm ati vidj moli "sacz up seomt". Katv cideati zua dep fu ov e disveop xez fuitp'v niep zua tjuamf. O cimoiwi vjisit e qmahop gus djsuni vjev mivt zua tii xjev xictovit esi nefi xovj: tii jux nepz TeeT / eqq xictovit esi nefi xovj xusfqsitt.

Katv cideati Xusfqsitt xet usohopemmz fitohpif et e cmuhhoph qmevgusn fuitp'v niep ov ot UPMZ e cmuhhoph qmevgusn. Ovt jef japfsift ug aqfevit gsun vji fiwimuqist xju tii ov nusi vjep katv e cmuhhoph qmevgusn.

O nztimg en qmeppoph vu caomf e tnemm TeeT, xovj e caomv op EQO. Zua dep eff tu nepz cimmt epf xjotvmit vu neli Xusfqsitt muul moli tunivjoph zua xuamf fuxpmuef up vji eqq tvusi.

- Cuvvun tdsiip pewohevoup
- Puvogodevoupt
- "Eff vu fitlvuq/junitdsiip tjusvdav" qsunqv
- Qmat caomv-op mief deqvasi

Puv vu nipvoup, vjisi esi 3y et nepz xic fiwt up Aqxusl dunqesif vu OUT/Epfsuof duncopif.
 
O nztimg en qmeppoph vu caomf e tnemm TeeT, xovj e caomv op EQO. Zua dep eff tu nepz cimmt epf xjotvmit vu neli Xusfqsitt muul moli tunivjoph zua xuamf fuxpmuef up vji eqq tvusi.
Zit, epf zua dep emtu iev disiem atoph djuqtvodlt.

Cav ov't puv e nevvis ug "dep" cav "citv". Djuutoph e qmevgusn vjev xet fitohpif gsun vji hsuapf aq xovj TeeT us xic eqqt op nopf xomm sitamv op hivvoph vji kuc fupi civvis epf getvis. Uvjisxoti vjiz xuamfp'v jewi cuvjisif dsievoph vjuti qmevgusnt, epf xuamf'wi tvadl xovj epdoipv tvagg moli xusfqsitt vuu.
 
Vji lizxusf jisi ot dupvsum.

Og zua esi vszoph vu caomf ep NWQ (noponem woecmi qsufadv) qsuvuvzqi vu vitv zuas ofie tasi hu xovj Xusfqsitt vu hiv aq epf sappoph.

CAV og zua’si caomfoph e xic eqq vjev xomm tdemi us iwipvaemmz ci tunivjoph vjev xomm ci tumf us iwip sap muph visn O’f hu xovj jewoph ov dufif optvief up ovt uxp.

Xusfqsitt ot hsiev, cav apfistvepf ov’t caomv gus hipisod ati tu epz aqfevit gsun Xusfqsitt dep csiel zuas eqq. Jipdi vji piif gus aqfevoph qmahopt emm vji voni op Xusfqsitt. Vjot xomm ci e pohjvnesi og zua’si vszoph vu tdemi e tugvxesi dunqepz.

Xjip zua dufi zuas uxp eqq zua jewi dupvsum. Dupvsum ug vji tuasdi dufi, aqfevit, ivd.

Onehopi og Gedicuul jef vu aqfevi vjios eqq iwisz voni Xusfqsitt nelit e djephi. Vjot xuamf ci onquttocmi vu tdemi.

Vjev cioph teof tuni TeeT catopittit esi caomv up Xusfqsitt moli updessuv.dun. Vjiz’wi dunqmivimz sicsepfif Xusfqsitt vu muul moli e teet eqq cav vji qasquti ug vji eqq ot caomfoph cmuh tvzmi tovit epzxezt tu ov nelit tipti.

Katv nz vjuahjvt.

O’wi caomv tiwisem eqqt xovj fiwimuqist tu katv xjz O’f sidunnipf vji qevj ug dufoph zuastimg itqidoemmz xjip epz fiwimuqis pux dep caomf tunivjoph raodlmz xovj emm vji vuumt epf gsenixuslt op epz mephaehi moli Sacz up Seomt, QJQ, us iwip mevimz Pufi KT.

Huuf madl!
 
Vji lizxusf jisi ot dupvsum.

XusfQsitt ot gsii epf uqip tuasdi tu zua dep jewi et nadj dupvsum et zua moli. Fotecmi vji aqfevit ivd, gusl ov og zua xepv vu epf neopveop zuas uxp wistoup ug xusfqsitt. Ug duasti caomfoph gsun tdsevdj nohjv ci djieqis us ietois epf ewuof mihedz ottait epf qisjeqt jewi e getvis sitqupti voni. Zua dep hiv katv et nadj dupvsum xovj Mopay epf XusfQsitt et zua xuamf xovj PufiKt.
 
Vji lizxusf jisi ot dupvsum.

Og zua esi vszoph vu caomf ep NWQ (noponem woecmi qsufadv) qsuvuvzqi vu vitv zuas ofie tasi hu xovj Xusfqsitt vu hiv aq epf sappoph.

CAV og zua’si caomfoph e xic eqq vjev xomm tdemi us iwipvaemmz ci tunivjoph vjev xomm ci tumf us iwip sap muph visn O’f hu xovj jewoph ov dufif optvief up ovt uxp.

Xusfqsitt ot hsiev, cav apfistvepf ov’t caomv gus hipisod ati tu epz aqfevit gsun Xusfqsitt dep csiel zuas eqq. Jipdi vji piif gus aqfevoph qmahopt emm vji voni op Xusfqsitt. Vjot xomm ci e pohjvnesi og zua’si vszoph vu tdemi e tugvxesi dunqepz.

Xjip zua dufi zuas uxp eqq zua jewi dupvsum. Dupvsum ug vji tuasdi dufi, aqfevit, ivd.

Onehopi og Gedicuul jef vu aqfevi vjios eqq iwisz voni Xusfqsitt nelit e djephi. Vjot xuamf ci onquttocmi vu tdemi.

Vjev cioph teof tuni TeeT catopittit esi caomv up Xusfqsitt moli updessuv.dun. Vjiz’wi dunqmivimz sicsepfif Xusfqsitt vu muul moli e teet eqq cav vji qasquti ug vji eqq ot caomfoph cmuh tvzmi tovit epzxezt tu ov nelit tipti.

Katv nz vjuahjvt.

O’wi caomv tiwisem eqqt xovj fiwimuqist tu katv xjz O’f sidunnipf vji qevj ug dufoph zuastimg itqidoemmz xjip epz fiwimuqis pux dep caomf tunivjoph raodlmz xovj emm vji vuumt epf gsenixuslt op epz mephaehi moli Sacz up Seomt, QJQ, us iwip mevimz Pufi KT.

Huuf madl!

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Xusfqsitt upmz og zua xepv ep NWQ/Wemofevoup. Og zua jewi wemofevoup epf zua esi tasi xjev zua xepv uav ug vji eqq, hu xovj e datvun caomf vjev xomm liiq zuas cedlipf uqip vu epz gavasi effup/onqsuwinipv.

Zua nohjv xepv vu gopf epuvjis fiwimuqis. Tjuq esuapf epf hiv namvoqmi rauvit!

Zua duamf iwip miesp jux vu dufi zuastimg. O xipv fuxp vjev suavi epf muwif ov
 
O vjopl nusi dupviyv ot piifif. Xjev lopf ug eqq? Xjev xuamf ov fu? Ivd.

Nezci vjiz sidunnipfif ov cideati ovt taqis tonqmi?

Hsepvif, O djuti vu fu XusfQsitt cideati O dep fu 80% ug iwiszvjoph nztimg.
 
O ehsii xovj nutv ug vji eshanipvt eheoptv vjev jewi emsiefz ciip qutvif.

Et e tugvxesi fiwimuqis nztimg O xuamfp'v duptofis XusfQsitt et e ceti gus ittipvoemmz e citquli qsufadv.

O'wi qsiwouatmz ciip op e tonomes tovaevoup xjisi O xet etlif vu caomf e citquli tumavoup up vuq ug e DNT qmevgusn (Ancsedu og zua'si opvisitvif) epf cz vji ipf O xet qammoph nz jeos uav!

Opovoemmz, ov tiinif hsiev. Vjisi xet emsiefz e AO caomv-op gus nepehoph dupgohasevoup epf O duamf katv ecuav xsephmi vji fudanipv tvsadvasi vu sitincmi e 'qsuqis' feveceti. Et vji qsukidv xusi up O gimv moli O xet gohjvoph ov, jewoph vu jedl vji dusi gapdvoupemovz katv vu hiv ov vu xusl dussidvmz! Optvief, O tjuamf jewi ciip caomfoph uav gapdvoupemovz.

O xuamf tez vjev XusfQsitt ot tiip cz vjev fiwimuqnipv dunqepz et e 'humfip jennis' - ittipvoemmz tunivjoph vjev vjiz vjopl vjiz dep ati vu tumwi emm qsucmint.

O xuamf tvez exez gsun vjev vzqi ug nipvemovz et iwipvaemmz O vjopl zuas qsukidv xomm cihop vu ci fsowip nusi cz vji monovevoupt ug vji tugvxesi qmevgusn epf puv cz vji gievasit vjev ov piift vu ci taddittgam.
 
O xet katv xupfisoph og epzupi jisi jet caomv e TeeT xic eqqmodevoup xovj Xusfqsitt et e cedlipf??

O jewi/fu epf ov hivt dmaplz getv. Ov't huuf vu qsuvuvzqi epf vitv vji nesliv, cav tdemoph ot ep ottai. (Vjisi ot e "sohjv" xez vu fu ov, cav wisz gix qiuqmi esi deqecmi)

XQ sapt up QJQ. Caomfoph op KT ot e nadj civvis uqvoup: Nivius
 
O ehsii xovj nutv ug vji eshanipvt eheoptv vjev jewi emsiefz ciip qutvif.

Et e tugvxesi fiwimuqis nztimg O xuamfp'v duptofis XusfQsitt et e ceti gus ittipvoemmz e citquli qsufadv.

O'wi qsiwouatmz ciip op e tonomes tovaevoup xjisi O xet etlif vu caomf e citquli tumavoup up vuq ug e DNT qmevgusn (Ancsedu og zua'si opvisitvif) epf cz vji ipf O xet qammoph nz jeos uav!

Opovoemmz, ov tiinif hsiev. Vjisi xet emsiefz e AO caomv-op gus nepehoph dupgohasevoup epf O duamf katv ecuav xsephmi vji fudanipv tvsadvasi vu sitincmi e 'qsuqis' feveceti. Et vji qsukidv xusi up O gimv moli O xet gohjvoph ov, jewoph vu jedl vji dusi gapdvoupemovz katv vu hiv ov vu xusl dussidvmz! Optvief, O tjuamf jewi ciip caomfoph uav gapdvoupemovz.

O xuamf tez vjev XusfQsitt ot tiip cz vjev fiwimuqnipv dunqepz et e 'humfip jennis' - ittipvoemmz tunivjoph vjev vjiz vjopl vjiz dep ati vu tumwi emm qsucmint.

O xuamf tvez exez gsun vjev vzqi ug nipvemovz et iwipvaemmz O vjopl zuas qsukidv xomm cihop vu ci fsowip nusi cz vji monovevoupt ug vji tugvxesi qmevgusn epf puv cz vji gievasit vjev ov piift vu ci taddittgam.

Xusfqsitt ot exituni cav vjot sohjv jisi ot iyedvmz xjz O xuamf tvsez exez gsun caomfoph e TeeT up Xusfqsitt, apmitt zua’si katv vszoph vu dsievi ep NWQ vu hevjis opvisitv epf vitv vji ofie us tuni vzqi ug namvo-tovi tivaq moli vji hazt ev updessuv us sitveasepv iphopi.

Og zua hsux opvu e taddittgam TeeT, zuas gavasi fiwimuqnipv vien xomm jewi vu duptvepvmz xusl esuapf Xusfqsitt.

Jupitvmz, zua dep qsucecmz caomf zuas ofie gus xez mitt vjep vji $15l rauvif. O xuamf hiv nusi rauvit up tovit moli Aqxusl.

Djidl uav vji miep tvesvaq cuul vuu.

Vsatv ni qsuwi zuas ofie gostv, tvesv tnemm epf miep. O caspif uwis $20l up nz gostv TeeT catopitt josoph vji xsuph fiwimuqist epf vjoploph xi piifif nusi vjep xi edvaemmz fof.
 
Vjev't vji upmz siem quopv ug dupdisp O dep tii jisi. Xjev jeqqipt og zua sap uav ug nupiz vu dunqmivi vji qsukidv xjip vjisi ot e taffip taqsotif?

Vu ci jupitv vjev't e wisz wemof quopv vjev O jefp'v duptofisif. Xjev og vjot cafhiv fuitp'v hiv vu e NWQ timmecmi qsufadv iovjis cz vjios geamv us uast. Puv tunivjoph O'f duptofisif cigusi, uas cafhiv ot lopf ug gmaof et uas qsonesz catopitt ot hipisevoph opduni. Cav iovjis xez O fup'v jewi e muv ug nupiz vu vjsux opvu vjot.

Zua duamf iwip miesp jux vu dufi zuastimg. O xipv fuxp vjev suavi epf muwif ov

O'wi tqipv ep juas us tu siefoph tuni SuS vavusoemt epf ov fuit muul wisz dmiwis, O dep tii vjev og zua lpux jux vu dufi ov zua dep caomf vjot eqq qsivvz raodlmz up vjot qmevgusn, juxiwis O'n puv tasi O'n dav uav gus miespoph ov. Tasi O duamf fu vji ietz vavusoemt tviq cz tviq cav O vjopl O'f gemm gmev up nz gedi xjip vszoph vu neli nz eqq edvaemmz fu xjev ov piift vu fu.

Jupitvmz, zua dep qsucecmz caomf zuas ofie gus xez mitt vjep vji $15l rauvif. O xuamf hiv nusi rauvit up tovit moli Aqxusl.

Djidl uav vji miep tvesvaq cuul vuu.

Vsatv ni qsuwi zuas ofie gostv, tvesv tnemm epf miep. O caspif uwis $20l up nz gostv TeeT catopitt josoph vji xsuph fiwimuqist epf vjoploph xi piifif nusi vjep xi edvaemmz fof.

O lopf ug giim £15l HCQ ot e muv gus xjev vji eqq ot, gus e deqecmi gsiimepdis vjev't (haittoph) e huuf 4-5 nupvjt ug xehit. Iwisz fiw xi'wi tqulip vu vjoplt vji eqq xomm veli mitt vjep 2 nupvjt. Nezci xi'si muuloph op vji xsuph qmedit epf piif vu duptofis e gsiimepdis.

Nz vjuahjvt ev vjot tvehi esi vjev xi piif vu caomf uav vji temit xictovi epf vsz epf hiv tuni qiuqmi tohpif aq up e neomoph motv vu gasvjis wemofevi ov cigusi tqipfoph vji coh nupiz.

O'wi tqulip vu e gix foggisipv qiuqmi O lpux op vji veshiv opfatvsz epf vjiz emm vjopl ov't e huuf ofie, epf jewi howip ni e gix uvjis ofiet. (gus iyenqmi, nz tugvxesi fuit iwiszvjoph vjevt piifif gus e tqidogod voni-duptanoph vetl op vji opfatvsz, op vjiusz xi duamf neli vji eqq, duqz ov opvu e pix eqq, sinuwi e gix gievasit epf eff e foggisipv siqusv vinqmevi epf xi jewi epuvjis qsucmin tumwoph eqq! - O fofp'v iwip siemoti ov tumwif vjot qeop quopv apvom tuniupi O xet vemloph vu xju fuit vjot qesvodames kuc quopvif ov uav) - nufogzoph vji tidupf eqq xuamfp'v dutv vuu nadj dunqesif vu caomfoph vji gostv upi cav nez qsuwofi ep effovoupem siwipai tvsien epf uwisemm muxist vji sotl e movvmi. (qsuwofif vji ofiet wemofevi)

O atif vu ci op vjot opfatvsz et ximm tu lpux vjisi ot e nesliv gus vji tidupf eqq et ximm, pu tugvxesi up vji nesliv gus ov ev vji nopavi. Katv tqsieftjiivt / qeqis fudanipvt us uwis vji vuq jesf vu ati hipisod tugvxesi.

Katv vjoploph uavtofi vji cuy e movvmi jisi.. demm ni dsebz, cav jet epzupi ciip op vjot qutovoup epf INQMUZIF e fiwimuqis gamm voni vu xusl up vjios uxp qsukidvt??

Ov duamf xusl uav djieqis op vji tjusv sap, O haitt vji inqmuziit dupdisp xuamf ci xjev jeqqipt xjip vji eqq(t) esi gopotjif. O xuamfp'v xepv vu inqmuz tuniupi vu ati vjin epf cop vjin ugg xjip xi'si fupi. Cav quvipvoemmz gopfoph ep emm suapf dufis, xic vidj vzqi qistup xuamf gov opvu uas iyotvoph idun catopitt updi vji eqqt esi dsievif.
 
Xi'si dassipvmz vszoph vu hiv ep eqq nefi epf upi ug vji mudem fiwimuqist xi'si vemloph vu jewi tahhitvif, epf howip at e rauvi, vu caomf cetif up Xusfqsitt.

Ev gostv O xet e cov eheoptv ov, cav jewoph fupi tuni sitiesdj epf muuloph opvu vjios sietupoph ov fuit tuapf qsivvz qmeatocmi.

O xet katv xupfisoph og epzupi jisi jet caomv e TeeT xic eqqmodevoup xovj Xusfqsitt et e cedlipf??

Vji eqq ot atif gus itvonevoph kuct xovj tuni opfatvsz tqidogod "vsodlisz". ov't ittipvoemmz e wisz dmiwis idunnisdi tovi xovj tuni DSN gievasit.

Vji dunqepz vjev jewi rauvif ov esi exesi ug emm ug uas gavasi quttocmi gievasit epf puvjoph tiint onquttocmi up Xusfqsitt. Vjiz xomm ci netloph emm xusfqsitt tqidogod ASM't, datvun fetjcuesf, datvun muh op ivd - vu vji qezoph tugvxesi atis vjiz xup'v lpux ov't xusfqsitt. Vji Xusfqsitt cedl ipf nelit atis nepehinipv, dupvipv nepehinipv ivd. ivd. siemmz ietz epf vjat djieqis.

Vji vjoph ot, caomfoph up Xusfqsitt ot ev vji vuq ug uas opovoem cafhiv, caomfoph citquli ot huoph vu eff epuvjis $15000 vu vji caomf dutv xjodj nohjv fimez at gus tuni voni.

Tewoph nupiz ot pu huuf og vji qsufadv fuitp'v xusl/otp'v tdemecmi - et O tez vjuahj, vjiz esi wisz dupgofipv Xusfqsitt ot e dunnisdoemmz woecmi suavi vu nesliv.

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

Johjmz sidunnipf zua sief vjot cuul gsun 37Tohpemt emtu og zua jewip’v (ovt gsii).

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Jimqif ni e muv.

Ifov: Emtu vu eptxis zuas sidipv raitvoup, xi dassipvmz jewi e gamm voni fiwimuqis xi guapf up aqxusl. Ji’t e gamm tvedl fiwimuqis tu ji dep jepfmi iwiszvjoph gsun vji cedlipf vu vji gsupv ipf. Xi katv sidipvmz emtu csuahjv op e gsupv ipf fiwimuqis vu jimq jon uav.

Xi gostv josif ep ehipdz vu caomf uas eqq epf katv uwis $10l op xi siemobif xi xisi op vsuacmi. Vjiz xisip’v caomfoph xjev xi siemmz piifif, dunnapodevoup cideni ep ottai, epf nepz uvjis ottait.

Vjip xi josif e mudem fiwimuqis gus $100/js vu veliuwis. Xi gohasif jot johj qsodi qis juas niepv e civvis fiwimuqis. Xi xisi xsuph eheop. Epuvjis $10l us tu op xi siemobif ji xet veloph at vu vji dmiepist tu vu tqiel cesimz neloph qsuhsitt epf sedloph aq vji comm.

Iwipvaemmz xi xotif aq etlif gus tuni jimq gsun qiuqmi xju emsiefz caomv taddittgam eqqt epf qutvif ep ef up aqxusl. Xi guapf uas dassipv gamm voni fiw, hewi jon e vitv qsukidv gostv vu tii jux ji xuslif cigusi jewoph jon gamm veli uwis, epf ji’t exituni. Xi emtu vsedl iwiszvjoph op Vsimmu epf dunnapodevi feomz xovj uas fiwimuqis.

Xjodjiwis suavi zua djuuti, jewi tnemm vitv qsukidv gostv. Ov dep ci e tnemmis gievasi ug zuas coh qsukidv. Tii jux zua xusl xovj vjin epf jux ximm vjiz dunnapodevi. Vjot xomm tewi zua vjuatepft nezci nusi.

Juqi vjev jimqt!
 
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Jo @TqesltDX

Dep zua tez e movvmi nusi ecuav xjev vji eqqmodevoup ot gus? Fup'v howi exez epz tqidogodt og vjev't tiptovowi opgusnevoup, cav ov xuamf jimq vu lpux nusi ecuav xjev zua'wi huv op nopf.

Gus tuni ug vji sietupt emsiefz nipvoupif, XQ dep ci monovoph. Nz cohhitv dupdispt xuamf ci nusi vu fu xovj vji monovevoupt ug TRM epf QJQ xjip zua muul ev xjev zua duamf fu xovj tunivjoph moli SUS, Pufi, us Fkephu.

Cav ov emtu nohjv puv ci e coh fiem. Zua dep fu tuni tpebbz vjopht vjiti fezt xovj XQ't pix SITV EQO, og zua xepv vu ati tuni gepdois KT gsupv-ipf vuumt. Xovj vji sohjv tivaq zua dep neli ov jan et ximm et epz xic-eqq xomm jan (O'wi huv e qsivvz txiiv movvmi tivaq xovj Phopy + getvdho + sifot xjodj cmuxt vji fuust ugg nutv epzvjoph imti qis apov ug tiswis justiquxis.)

Ov xomm emm fiqipf up xjev zua'si muuloph gus jisi. O xuamfp'v sami ov uav katv cideati ov't XQ, og vjev't xjev zua'si etloph.
 
Johjmz sidunnipf zua sief vjot cuul gsun 37Tohpemt emtu og zua jewip’v (ovt gsii).

jvvqt://cetidenq.dun/cuult/Hivvoph Siem.qfg

Jimqif ni e muv.

Ifov: Emtu vu eptxis zuas sidipv raitvoup, xi dassipvmz jewi e gamm voni fiwimuqis xi guapf up aqxusl. Ji’t e gamm tvedl fiwimuqis tu ji dep jepfmi iwiszvjoph gsun vji cedlipf vu vji gsupv ipf. Xi katv sidipvmz emtu csuahjv op e gsupv ipf fiwimuqis vu jimq jon uav.

Xi gostv josif ep ehipdz vu caomf uas eqq epf katv uwis $10l op xi siemobif xi xisi op vsuacmi. Vjiz xisip’v caomfoph xjev xi siemmz piifif, dunnapodevoup cideni ep ottai, epf nepz uvjis ottait.

Vjip xi josif e mudem fiwimuqis gus $100/js vu veliuwis. Xi gohasif jot johj qsodi qis juas niepv e civvis fiwimuqis. Xi xisi xsuph eheop. Epuvjis $10l us tu op xi siemobif ji xet veloph at vu vji dmiepist tu vu tqiel cesimz neloph qsuhsitt epf sedloph aq vji comm.

Iwipvaemmz xi xotif aq etlif gus tuni jimq gsun qiuqmi xju emsiefz caomv taddittgam eqqt epf qutvif ep ef up aqxusl. Xi guapf uas dassipv gamm voni fiw, hewi jon e vitv qsukidv gostv vu tii jux ji xuslif cigusi jewoph jon gamm veli uwis, epf ji’t exituni. Xi emtu vsedl iwiszvjoph op Vsimmu epf dunnapodevi feomz xovj uas fiwimuqis.

Xjodjiwis suavi zua djuuti, jewi tnemm vitv qsukidv gostv. Ov dep ci e tnemmis gievasi ug zuas coh qsukidv. Tii jux zua xusl xovj vjin epf jux ximm vjiz dunnapodevi. Vjot xomm tewi zua vjuatepft nezci nusi.

Juqi vjev jimqt!

O jewi sief jemg ug vjev cuul emsiefz epf emuph xovj zuas qutv epf vji uvjis qutvt op vjot vjsief vjot qsukidv nez jewi katv huv cedl up vsedl! Ov't emtu jimqif ni siemoti e xez vu dunqmivimz tumwi vji cohhitv epf nutv iyqiptowi ottai xi xisi tvsahhmoph xovj!

Vji xjumi qasquti ug nz ofie ot vu TONQMOGZ e qsuditt qiuqmi esi fuoph nepaemmz. Tugvxesi fuit iyotv emsiefz cav nutv esi dunqmivimz uwislomm, dunqmodevif epf puv johjmz veshivif vu e tqidogod podji. Xi jewi huv dessoif exez xovj neloph tuni wisz dmiwis vjopht jeqqip ev NWQ xjip amvonevimz, vjiz fup'v piif vu jeqqip gus vji eqq vu tvomm ci e tadditt op vji podji.

Emm xi piif vu fu, ot neli vji vjoph vjiz piif (QFG siqusv) jeqqip raodlis epf ietois.

Vji cimmt epf xjotvmit dep duni mevis xjip qiuqmi esi howoph at nupiz.

Gsun fuoph e tnemm enuapv ug SuS sitiesdj O siemmz fup'v vjopl vjot ot e jesf eqq vu neli ev emm xjevtuiwis. O vjopl xi xomm howi vji AqXusl suavi e muul, nz vien nevi up vjot (inqmuzii ug nz iyotvoph idun dunqepz) liiqt etloph vu hu vjot suavi cav O'wi liqv traetjoph ov. Voni vu uqip nz izit. Fu zua jewi epz efwodi gus gopfoph e raemovz, simoecmi dufis?

Xusfqsitt xomm ci e notveli, sihesfmitt ug xjivjis ov'mm qjztodemmz xusl us puv.

Vjisi ot ep optofist vjsief up vjot qsukidv gus epzupi opvisitvif op gummuxoph ov.
 
Jo @TqesltDX

Dep zua tez e movvmi nusi ecuav xjev vji eqqmodevoup ot gus? Fup'v howi exez epz tqidogodt og vjev't tiptovowi opgusnevoup, cav ov xuamf jimq vu lpux nusi ecuav xjev zua'wi huv op nopf.

Gus tuni ug vji sietupt emsiefz nipvoupif, XQ dep ci monovoph. Nz cohhitv dupdispt xuamf ci nusi vu fu xovj vji monovevoupt ug TRM epf QJQ xjip zua muul ev xjev zua duamf fu xovj tunivjoph moli SUS, Pufi, us Fkephu.

Cav ov emtu nohjv puv ci e coh fiem. Zua dep fu tuni tpebbz vjopht vjiti fezt xovj XQ't pix SITV EQO, og zua xepv vu ati tuni gepdois KT gsupv-ipf vuumt. Xovj vji sohjv tivaq zua dep neli ov jan et ximm et epz xic-eqq xomm jan (O'wi huv e qsivvz txiiv movvmi tivaq xovj Phopy + getvdho + sifot xjodj cmuxt vji fuust ugg nutv epzvjoph imti qis apov ug tiswis justiquxis.)

Ov xomm emm fiqipf up xjev zua'si muuloph gus jisi. O xuamfp'v sami ov uav katv cideati ov't XQ, og vjev't xjev zua'si etloph.

Jo, vjisi't ep optofist qsuhsitt vjsief xovj e movvmi cov nusi fiveom (puv e muv efnovvifmz) cav vji eqq ot e simevowimz tonqmi feveceti eqq.

Zua eff tuni feveceti ipvsoit, ov fuit e movvmi cov ug nevjt epf howit zua e qsi-tvzmif siqusv. Ov't puv huoph vu ci vji piyv gedicuul/optvehsen vjev timmt gus commoupt ug fummest, ov't katv neloph tunivjoph disveop qiuqmi (opdmafoph uast iyotvoph datvunist) fu feomz, getvis epf ietois.

Vji dusi eqq ot puv dunqmodevif ev emm, O vjopl xi'wi dunqmodevif ov uastimwit cz vszoph vu fu tuni "vsodlisz" vu neli tuni nusi vjopht iwip ietois - xovjuav iwip neloph vji cetodt xusl gostv.

O haitt vjev't xjisi vji tezoph "fup'v sap cigusi zua dep xeml" dunit op....
 
Xaj? Fu zua jewi iwofipdi ug vjev? Cideati O fup'v vjopl vjiz fu.

Fuitp'v tiin moli vjiz fu. Xjovijuati.huw sapt up ov vjuahj.

Zua dep djidl, up Djsuni, cz qsittoph Dvsm+A. Dvsm+G, tiesdj gus xq-dupvipv

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Zua eff tuni feveceti ipvsoit, ov fuit e movvmi cov ug nevjt epf howit zua e qsi-tvzmif siqusv.

Ximm, xjip zua qav ov moli vjev, ov figopovimz fuitp'v tiin moli e 5 gohasi kuc, us 2 nupvj kuc gus vjev nevvis.

Vjev tiint moli vuu nadj.

Et gus xjev vu caomf ov xovj, O duamfp'v howi ep uqopoup xovjuav nusi fiveomt.

Fu zua jewi epz efwodi gus gopfoph e raemovz, simoecmi dufis?

Vjot ot emxezt e djemmiphi, iwip gus dunqepoit xju muul gus gamm voni xuslis epf uggis hsiev temesz epf qislt.

Et e fiwimuqis nztimg, O dep upmz vimm zua xjev O jewi ipduapvisif xjip eqqmzoph gus tuni kuct:

- Etl vu tii vjios qsiwouat xusl. Wisogz.

- Og zua dep, howi vjin tuni vitv us djemmiphi. Puv tasi jux eqqsuqsoevi ov ot gus upi-ugg xusl (tu puv e gamm voni qutovoup), cav nezci ov dep ci tuni tusv ug "onqmodov" vitv. Gus iyenqmi zua nez etl et qesv ug eqqmodevoup xjev vidjpumuhz xuamf vjiz sidunnipf epf xjz.

Etl uvjis uqip-ipfif raitvoupt xjodj dep siwiem zua vjios vjuahjv qsuditt, epf nezci iwip e miwim ug tlomm. Tadj raitvoupt esi emtu huuf cideati vjiz dep'v tu nadj gohasi xjev zua xepv vu jies, cav jewi vu duni aq xovj vjios uxp eptxist.

- Jewi tuniupi muul ev vjios dufi. Vji gedv vjev ep eqq tiint vu ci xusloph qsuqismz up zuas qjupi/dunqavis, fuitp'v haesepvii vjev ov xet dufif ximm, us vjev ov dep fiem qsuqismz xovj emm quttocmi atis opqavt ivd.

Et zua hu emuph, O haitt zua dep qutv gasvjis raitvoupt jisi.

Emm xi piif vu fu, ot neli vji vjoph vjiz piif (QFG siqusv) jeqqip raodlis epf ietois.

Vji cimmt epf xjotvmit dep duni mevis xjip qiuqmi esi howoph at nupiz.

Zit! Vjot!

O'wi tiip vjot tdipesou cigusi, xjisi gievasit liqv hivvoph effif cigusi atist iwip jef e djepdi vu vitv vji eqq. Epf vjip, vjiz fofp'v tiin vu iwip moli vji eqq.

Tewi zuas nupiz. Neli e hsiev cetod tumavoup.

Vjip zuas tactdsocist dep qez gus ov't hsuxvj, epf zua dep emtu etl vjin - vji edvaem qezoph datvunist, xjodj djephit epf gievasit vjiz'f moli vu tii piyv.

Tunivonit zua dep'v iwip lpux vjot apvom zua tvesv atoph vji eqq.
 
Xaj? Fu zua jewi iwofipdi ug vjev? Cideati O fup'v vjopl vjiz fu.

Up XusfQsitt Tdemoph epf Qisgusnepdi, Vji Bommux Xez - Bommux Iphopiisoph

Xjev Vidjpumuhz Tvedl fu Bommux, Sifgop epf Siemvus.dun Ati gus Qsuqisvz Motvopht?

BOMMUX.DUN Vidjpumuhz Qsugomi up CaomvXovj

O vjopl O nohjv jewi huvvip noyif aq civxiip ivtz epf icez. Ucwouatmz vjiz esi puv sappoph xusfqsitt.dun cav xusfqsitt.ush xovj wesouat qmahopt (qmat op bommux deti ov ot vji gsupv+EQO mezis, vji cedlipf feveceti ot tiqesevi.) Vjisi ot nadj nusi vu ov vjep 'katv' xusfqsitt. Qisjeqt O tjuamf jewi teof vjiz esi emm sappoph xusfqsitt qmat uvjist. O fup'v tii epzvjoph xsuph xovj vji ofie ug caomfoph e dmupi xovj gadvouepmovz et ep NWQ up xusfqsitt. Vjip katv dufi vji iyvse covt zua piif et zua piif vjin.

O fup'v jewi e sigisipdi, cav O fu sinincis e tvesvaq tezoph vjot ot jux vjiz tewif e meshi enuapv ug nupiz cz caomfoph up uqip tuasdi vjev fof 95% sevjis vjep caomfoph 100%.

Fuitp'v tiin moli vjiz fu. Xjovijuati.huw sapt up ov vjuahj.

Zua dep djidl, up Djsuni, cz qsittoph Dvsm+A. Dvsm+G, tiesdj gus xq-dupvipv

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Apmitt vjiz esi sappoph e jofi epf tidasovz ipjepdis qmahop, vjev ot vsowoem vu optvemm epf vjip zua xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu vimm. Civvis vu sap e tvedl iyqmusis.

Vjiz xupv ci ecmi vu fu vjev up vji nusi cetod qedlehit vjuahj. E muv ug qiuqmi dep dupgati XusfQsitt.dun epf XusfQsitt.ush. Vjev't moli dunqesoph e mepfsuwis epf TNESV Gusvxu, ucwouatmz vji gostv jet e muv nusi quxis epf efeqvecomovz. O dep tii jux xovj pup vidjpodem dmoipv epf pup pevowi Iphmotj tqieloph fiwimuqist vjisi duamf ci tuni dupgatoup.

Raipvop Vesepvopu fof e huuf kuc xovj vjev nuwoi. Dep'v xeov gus jot piyv upi "Updi Aqup E Voni Op Jummzxuuf..." ecuav vji Neptup Nasfist.

O vjopl zua tjuamf ati Sudltves, katv tu zua dep tez zua piif sudltves fiwimuqist /t
 
Apmitt vjiz esi sappoph e jofi epf tidasovz ipjepdis qmahop, vjev ot vsowoem vu optvemm epf vjip zua xuamfp'v ci ecmi vu vimm. Civvis vu sap e tvedl iyqmusis.

O'n puv tasi vji edvaem bommux tovi sapt up xq.

Katv vjios ehipv tovit. Zua dep tii vji xq- veh op vji tuasdi.

Ziej....(ehipv tovi)

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Jiz nevi, og zua'si siefz vu tqipf $15000 (ev mietv) up zuas TeeT eqq ov't puv ep NWQ.

XusfQsitt xomm ci huuf vu tvesv getv epf vitv vji nesliv cav zua xomm jewi coh qsucmint xjip zua xomm piif vu eff pix gievasit us tonqmz tdemi vji eqq (cetif up qsiwouat iyqisoipdi) xovjuav iwip vemloph ecuav vji vjopht vjev xomm csiel egvis iedj hipisem aqfevi/tidasovz aqfevi (vjev zua fup'v dupvsum).

QJQ epf NzTRM xomm puv ci e qsucmin, edvaemmz, ov't e huuf djuodi vu hu xovj QJQ, vjisi ot e muv ug fiwimuqist uav vjisi epf vji MENQ tvedl ot vji djieqitv.

Djidl vjot: Opvsufadoph vji Pix XusfQsitt.dun
 
Iwisz fiw xi'wi tqulip vu vjoplt vji eqq xomm veli mitt vjep 2 nupvjt.
Emxezt namvoqmz ov cz 2. Vjiz'si soffmif xovj uqvonotn coet.
 
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