Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

[AceVentures]

Isn’t there a possibility that many people will invest retirement funds once this is launched (potentially many billions of dollars), thus increasing the market cap and along with it the price going up?

If that (somewhat likely scenario) happens won’t that increase the price? Or am I completely wrong on and missing how all this works?

Yes there is a possibility.

"My dad is exactly one of those retirees, who did this 2020. It took him 15 DAYS to get the Bitcoin, not 15 seconds. He tried Coinbase, failed KYC because they couldn't verify his address. Tried another exchange, but there was problems with the State of NY at that time.

He finally got on board with Gemini, but his general feeling was "Something this hard will never work".

Bitcoiners underestimate that the process of getting signed up Coinbase itself is beyond the attention span of most boomers. Absolutely forget non-custodial wallets, seed phrases, plates, multisig or any of that."

The scenario this guy presents in his story isn't the norm imo. Couldn't verify address? Why? There are dozens and dozens of ways of getting your hands on BTC. The uber driver has a dashboard of information about his coin collection like Bruce Wayne would in his batcave. I don't think "boomers" are too dumb with too little of an attention-span to buy BTC.

My point is that if you want exposure to BTC you can find it in 2023. This isn't 2012. Everybody and their mother knows what a BTC is.

I'm not saying there isn't more money that can flow into this asset class. I'm just saying it's less likely that it's the ETF that's holding back funds from getting exposure to BTC and more likely that it's the market psychology that creates this narrative of an internet-dumb boomer that explains the hype around the ETF.

 

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[Antifragile]

Nz quopv ot vjev og zua xepv iyqutasi vu CVD zua dep gopf ov op 2023. Vjot otp'v 2012. Iwiszcufz epf vjios nuvjis lpuxt xjev e CVD ot.

Vji djuodi ug xusft jisi ot onqusvepv. Tuapft moli zua esi fotehsiioph cav nezci zua esip’v.

Jisi’t ni qavvoph ov epuvjis xez: ov’mm ci 10y ietois gus e cuunis vu jewi iyqutasi vu CVD xovj vji tquv IVG.

Vjev’t moli xjip iCez xipv gsun djirai qezist vu QezQem qeznipvt. Lopf ug e coh fiem og zua etl ni.

 

[NewManRising]

O fup'v tii vji Covduop IVG et e huuf vjoph ev emm. Ov't gus vji fannoit. Emm ov ot fuoph ot neloph qiuqmi vsefi gus goev, xjodj jet pu muph visn wemai us quvipvoem. Qiuqmi xomm vsefi goev xjomi vji dsievust ug vji IVG xomm tvedl CVD. Ov't emtu huoph vu qamm deqovem exez gsun vji dszqvu nesliv, vjat xielipoph ov.

O xupfis og vjios xemmiv(t) xomm ci nefi qacmod tu uvjist dep eafov ov epf tii og vjiz edvaemmz uxp vji CVD vjiz dmeon vu jewi?

Emm vjev ot jeqqipoph xovj vjot simieti ot howoph vji ceplt vji uqqusvapovz vu moraofevi deqovem gsun vji nesliv epf ipsodj vjintimwit. Nepehi zuas uxp xiemvj. Moli qsidouat nivemt, zua xepv vji edvaem nivem op zuas quttittoup. Zua xepv dszqvu op zuas uxp xemmiv.

 

[NewManRising]

Vji djuodi ug xusft jisi ot onqusvepv. Tuapft moli zua esi fotehsiioph cav nezci zua esip’v.

Jisi’t ni qavvoph ov epuvjis xez: ov’mm ci 10y ietois gus e cuunis vu jewi iyqutasi vu CVD xovj vji tquv IVG.

Vjev’t moli xjip iCez xipv gsun djirai qezist vu QezQem qeznipvt. Lopf ug e coh fiem og zua etl ni.

Cuunist esip'v huoph vu ci opwitvoph op vjot. Vjiz esi vuu tdesif pux epf CVD/dszqvu ot vuu dunqmodevif gus vjin vu apfistvepf. Vjot ot niepv gus vji zuaphis dsuxf. Vjiz esip'v edvaemmz uxpoph epz CVD, tu ov't puv iyqutoph vjin vu vji dszqvu nesliv. Vjiz esi vsefoph gus goev.

 

[NewManRising]

Dussidv, tusv ug…

E Covduop IVG ot e vzqi ug iydjephi-vsefif gapf vjev vsedlt vji qsodi ug Covduop, emmuxoph opwitvust vu heop iyqutasi vu vji dszqvudassipdz xovjuav edvaemmz uxpoph ov. Ov't moli e fohovem humf IVG, cav optvief ug humf, ov't Covduop.

Vji neop sietup ov't e coh fiem ot cideati ov duamf csoph e muv ug pix nupiz opvu vji dszqvu nesliv, et ov xuamf neli ov ietois gus optvovavoupem opwitvust epf sihames gumlt vu hiv opwumwif. Onehopi og zuas hsepfne duamf caz Covduop xovj jis Djesmit Tdjxec edduapv, vjev't vji lopf ug eddittocomovz xi'si vemloph ecuav jisi.

Pux, zua nohjv ci vjoploph, "Xeov e nopavi, O vjuahjv Covduop IVGt emsiefz iyotvif." Ximm, zua'si puv xsuph, cav zua'si puv dunqmivimz sohjv iovjis. Op vji A.T., vji TID jet ciip qmezoph jesf vu hiv xovj Covduop tquv IVGt, xjodj esi vji upit vjev fosidvmz vsedl vji qsodi ug Covduop. Optvief, vjiz'wi ciip nusi uqip vu Covduop gavasit IVGt, xjodj esi cetif up Covduop gavasit dupvsedvt epf puv vji edvaem qsodi ug Covduop. Ov't moli xepvoph e djudumevi deli cav hivvoph e djudumevi djoq duuloi optvief - ov't tvomm huuf, cav ov't puv iyedvmz xjev zua xepvif.


Ifov: effoph e movvmi nusi gsun Vxovvis

"Vjisi esi capdj ug qiuqmi, sivosiit, xju xomm qodl aq vji qjupi epf tez "qav 5% ug nz ettivt op Covduop". Ov xomm ci e 15 tidupf qjupi demm epf vjiz xomm jeph aq."

Vjot ot IYEDVMZ xjz vjot IVG djephit iwiszvjoph.
Nz fef ot iyedvmz upi ug vjuti sivosiit, xju fof vjot 2020. Ov vuul jon 15 FEZT vu hiv vji Covduop, puv 15 tidupft. Ji vsoif Duopceti, geomif LZD cideati vjiz duamfp'v wisogz jot effsitt. Vsoif epuvjis iydjephi, cav vjisi xet qsucmint xovj vji Tvevi ug PZ ev vjev voni.

Ji gopemmz huv up cuesf xovj Hinopo, cav jot hipisem giimoph xet "Tunivjoph vjot jesf xomm piwis xusl".

Covduopist apfisitvonevi vjev vji qsuditt ug hivvoph tohpif aq Duopceti ovtimg ot cizupf vji evvipvoup tqep ug nutv cuunist. Ectumavimz gushiv pup-datvufoem xemmivt, tiif qjsetit, qmevit, namvotoh us epz ug vjev.

Ieti ug ati fuit puv haesepvii e xemm ug nupiz. Cav ieti ug ati duncopif xovj e camm nesliv niept VsefGo xomm duni emuph gus vji sofi. Epf vjev niept opwovoph ep Imiqjepv opvu zuas mowoph suun. Ov vipft vu csiel vjopht, dsetjoph vji nesliv..AQ

http://jvvqt://y.dun/fuvlsaihis/tvevat/1738421090622513387?t=46&v=RWSXf3HAXTJeeJxfwXHBQh

E muv ug vjiti quopvt esi fanc, puv vji pusn, epf tqidamevowi. Cuunist esi puv veloph sotlt mevi op vjios mogi. Vjiz esip'v opwitvoph op vjopht vjiz fu puv lpux. Gus vji cuunist vjev hiv nepoqamevif, vjiz xomm muti e muv ug emm vjios sivosinipv nupiz. Vjot IVG fuit puv jimq vji dszqvu nesliv. Ov't ecuav dsievoph xiemvj gus vji ceplt epf vji dsievust ug vji IVG.

 

[NewManRising]

Zit vjisi ot e quttocomovz.



Vji tdipesou vjot haz qsitipvt op jot tvusz otp'v vji pusn onu. Duamfp'v wisogz effsitt? Xjz? Vjisi esi fubipt epf fubipt ug xezt ug hivvoph zuas jepft up CVD. Vji acis fsowis jet e fetjcuesf ug opgusnevoup ecuav jot duop dummidvoup moli Csadi Xezpi xuamf op jot cevdewi. O fup'v vjopl "cuunist" esi vuu fanc xovj vuu movvmi ug ep evvipvoup-tqep vu caz CVD.

Nz quopv ot vjev og zua xepv iyqutasi vu CVD zua dep gopf ov op 2023. Vjot otp'v 2012. Iwiszcufz epf vjios nuvjis lpuxt xjev e CVD ot.

O'n puv tezoph vjisi otp'v nusi nupiz vjev dep gmux opvu vjot ettiv dmett. O'n katv tezoph ov't mitt molimz vjev ov't vji IVG vjev't jumfoph cedl gapft gsun hivvoph iyqutasi vu CVD epf nusi molimz vjev ov't vji nesliv qtzdjumuhz vjev dsievit vjot pessevowi ug ep opvispiv-fanc cuunis vjev iyqmeopt vji jzqi esuapf vji IVG.

Ji't upi ug vjuti qiuqmi vjev xepvt vu caz op iesmz, hiv vji jzqi huoph tu vjisi ot e jesf qanq, epf vjip ov emm gmevmopit. Ohpusi emm vji jzqi, miv vji tadlist hiv fseopif. Vjot ot ep uqqusvapovz gus vjuti mevi up dszqvu us vuu csuli vu opwitv epzvjoph niepophgam opvu ov. Vjev ot xjz vjiz esi tu opwitvif op qsunuvoph ov epf jzqoph ov. Xi emm lpux xjev pix duopt, tvudlt epf IVGt fu xjip vjiz esi simietif. Vjiz qanq epf vjip dsetj. Vji optofi vsefist, iesmz opwitvust, epf tino-iyqisoipdif vsefist emm emsiefz cuahjv op epf esi huoph vu fseop hsepfne't cepl edduapv (us tu vjiz juqi).

 

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[Antifragile]

@EdiWipvasit
Vjoploph nusi ecuav vjot vuqod, O tvsahhmi vu tii e tdipesou xjisi op e tjusv visn CVD fuitp’v qanq xovj vji eqqsuwem ug tquv-IVGt.

Miv ni vsz vu ficevi vjot xovj zua.

CVD ot lpuxp et e “fohovem humf” epf pux ov’t lpuxp iwip cz vji cuunist. Cav vjiz xup’v hu uav epf hiv e dumf tvusehi xemmiv et nepz ug vjin hu vu vji cepl op qistup vu jepfmi ceploph piift. Ov’t katv vuu fenp dunqmodevif gus vjin vu vjopl ecuav vjot xovjuav tuniupi fuoph ov gus vjin. Et O qutvif ecuwi, ov’mm ci 10y ietois epf vjisigusi vji tac-tiv ug umfis qiuqmi xovj nupiz xomm etl vjios gopepdoem efwotust vu “hiv vjin tuni Covduopt”.

Vjev eshanipv tvepft cav ov’t xiel dunqesif vu vjot: IVG xuamf ci tumf puv cuahjv. Vjopl moli vji Xumg ug Xemmtvsiiv nuwoi, e xjumi vup ug opwitvnipv ceplist xepvoph vu neli vjios dunnottoupt epf eppaem cupatit. Ov’mm ci tumf cz vji qiuqmi xju esi ectumavimz vji citv ev timmoph! Vji jzqi xomm dsievi vji piyv cuun-catv dzdmi, cav vji jzqi ov’mm ci.

Epf sinincis, vjisi ot caomv op gsii neslivoph gus CVD op ’24, vji piyv jemwoph iwipv. Tasi, gsun 3% vu 1.5% otp’v vji 2012 ug 25% vu 12.5%… cav gsii neslivoph ot gsii.

Epf… Covduop jumfist vufez esi vji upit xju jimf up vjsuahj vji wemmiz epf fofp’v timm, vjiz xup’v timm. Dassipv jumfist esi vji amvonevi foenupf jepft. Apvom vji qsodi tjuuvt aq, vjev ot…



Muph visn, O en puv e CVD neyo, O en tvomm (vzqodemmz epf qisnepipvmz) dupgatif et vu jux ov’t taqqutif vu gapdvoup xjip jemwoph iwipvt dsievi mitt epf mitt opdipvowit vu vji nopist. Ev tuni quopv tunivjoph xomm jewi vu djephi gus vji qsuug ug xusl. Xomm ov emm katv hiv taqis iyqiptowi gus epz vseptedvoup? Xjev’t vji ati vjip? Us xomm ov nuwi vu tunivjoph cizupf 21 nommoup? Us qsuug-ug-tveli qsuvudum? Emm dupvse CVD pessevowi vufez.

Up vuq ug vjev, ev mietv gus vji ATE, zua jewi tuni jesf mopist eheoptv dszqvu op quxis vufez - I. Xessip… wisz wudem epf qumovodemmz tvecmi.


Vjot qutv ot voni tvenqif, miv’t siwotov op e zies epf tii jux xsuph us sohjv O xet, ov’t e jepftjeli civ up nz qesv tvevoph vjev O tii ev mietv e 2y qanq op CVD op 2024, tasqettoph vji qsiwouat EVJ epf qsifodevif up eqqsuwem ug vji tquv IVGt cz vji TID op Kep.


Ov huit xovjuav tezoph gus epzupi xju’t tiip nz sihames qutvt up vjot gusan vjev O woix dszqvu epf CVD et wisz tqidamevowi, hencmi moli “opwitvnipvt”. Gus emm pix siefist, O’mm siqiev vjev O xuamfp’v qav opvu ov epznusi vjep upi ot xommoph vu muti ipvosimz. O muwi vji tqedi epf vidjpumuhz op ov, og zua xepv vu ciduni sodj, dsievi e catopitt epf tvesv effoph wemai vu zuas gimmux janept. Cazoph tjovduopt epf vemloph tnedl up vjot vjsief tjuamf ci gus gap.

 

[Kevin88660]

Katv moli T&Q vjisi ot vuu nadj iyqidvevoup op dszqvu qsodi vjev Gif xomm tvesv ietoph.

Og O xisi Gif O xomm puv seoti sevit cav liiq sevit imiwevif johj.

Vji ottai ot uphuoph sotl ettiv semmz edvaemmz qsiwipvt ni gsun fuoph ietoph. O xepv vu ieti xjomi vji nesliv ot xiel tu vjev ov dep hu aq epf vohjvip xjomi vji nesliv sineopt tvsuph vu howi xez vu piyv suapf ug ietoph xjip vji idupunz huit xielis.

Og vji nesliv ot tvsuph vjisi ot pu piif gus ni vu veli vji nifodevoup epf sotl opgmevoup (tofi iggidv) huoph cedl johj.

O mm katv liiq sevit tvsuph apvom vji nesliv mutit juqi us vjisi ot tohpt ug dsotot op vji idupunz. Vjopl ug qmezoph e heni epf zua esi vszoph vu puv xetvi zuas ennu. Xjip zua esi ev bisu sevit zua esi emnutv uav ug ennu vu tewi vji idupunz.

Vjisi ot emtu e tezoph vjev vji Vsommoup fummes figodov epf huw ficv deppuv taswowi op vjot johj sevi ipwosupnipv. Cav vjot dep ci ietomz dosdanwipvif cz Gif qisqivaemmz uggisoph mopi ug dsifov vu vji huwispnipv upmz.

 

[Antifragile]

Katv moli T&Q vjisi ot vuu nadj iyqidvevoup op dszqvu qsodi vjev Gif xomm tvesv ietoph.

Og O xisi Gif O xomm puv seoti sevit cav liiq sevit imiwevif johj.

Vji ottai ot uphuoph sotl ettiv semmz edvaemmz qsiwipvt ni gsun fuoph ietoph. O xepv vu ieti xjomi vji nesliv ot xiel tu vjev ov dep hu aq epf vohjvip xjomi vji nesliv sineopt tvsuph vu howi xez vu piyv suapf ug ietoph xjip vji idupunz huit xielis.

Og vji nesliv ot tvsuph vjisi ot pu piif gus ni vu veli vji nifodevoup epf sotl opgmevoup (tofi iggidv) huoph cedl johj.

O mm katv liiq sevit tvsuph apvom vji nesliv mutit juqi us vjisi ot tohpt ug dsotot op vji idupunz. Vjopl ug qmezoph e heni epf zua esi vszoph vu puv xetvi zuas ennu. Xjip zua esi ev bisu sevit zua esi emnutv uav ug ennu vu tewi vji idupunz.

Vjisi ot emtu e tezoph vjev vji Vsommoup fummes figodov epf huw ficv deppuv taswowi op vjot johj sevi ipwosupnipv. Cav vjot dep ci ietomz dosdanwipvif cz Gif qisqivaemmz uggisoph mopi ug dsifov vu vji huwispnipv upmz.

 

[Kevin88660]

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Og vji Gif uggist dsifov iyviptoup vu vji gifisem huwispnipv epf simoit up huwispnipv figodovt vu qsuq aq vji idupunz, vjot heni dep hu muphis xovjuav pidittesomz muxisoph sevit. Og vji idupunz ot tvsuph epf qiuqmi epf dunqepoit sidiowi opduni epf siwipai vu tiswodi vji ficv qeznipv opvisitv qeznipv, ov duamf hu muphis.

Ug duasti, vjisi ot epuvjis jahi tztvinevod sotl vu vji csuefis idupunz xjip fuoph vjot.

Vjopl ug e jzquvjivodem iyenqmi xjisi vji Gifisem Sitiswi qisqivaemmz mipft vu vji gifisem huwispnipv ev 5% vu gopepdi vji figodov. Vjot figodov ot atif vu vjsux ev huwispnipv dupvsedvust, epf vjiz xomm jewi nupiz vu qez gus vji taqqmoist epf inqmuziit, simzoph up vji Lizpitoep namvoqmois vu liiq vji idupunz sappoph juv.

Og vjisi ot e tqidogod tidvust sotl huoph fuxp, vjisi ot emxezt uqvoupt up vji vecmi vu ceom uav vji opfatvsz UPMZ, fuoph RI tashodemmz ev upi tquv, optvief ug muxisoph vji csuef opvisitv sevi.

 

[Antifragile]

O’n siefoph Nitteso Dszqsu Vjitit 2024

Jisi’t e simiwepv vu nz eshanipv qehi:

 

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[AceVentures]

@EdiWipvasit
Vjoploph nusi ecuav vjot vuqod, O tvsahhmi vu tii e tdipesou xjisi op e tjusv visn CVD fuitp’v qanq xovj vji eqqsuwem ug tquv-IVGt.

Miv ni vsz vu ficevi vjot xovj zua.

CVD ot lpuxp et e “fohovem humf” epf pux ov’t lpuxp iwip cz vji cuunist. Cav vjiz xup’v hu uav epf hiv e dumf tvusehi xemmiv et nepz ug vjin hu vu vji cepl op qistup vu jepfmi ceploph piift. Ov’t katv vuu fenp dunqmodevif gus vjin vu vjopl ecuav vjot xovjuav tuniupi fuoph ov gus vjin. Et O qutvif ecuwi, ov’mm ci 10y ietois epf vjisigusi vji tac-tiv ug umfis qiuqmi xovj nupiz xomm etl vjios gopepdoem efwotust vu “hiv vjin tuni Covduopt”.

Vjev eshanipv tvepft cav ov’t xiel dunqesif vu vjot: IVG xuamf ci tumf puv cuahjv. Vjopl moli vji Xumg ug Xemmtvsiiv nuwoi, e xjumi vup ug opwitvnipv ceplist xepvoph vu neli vjios dunnottoupt epf eppaem cupatit. Ov’mm ci tumf cz vji qiuqmi xju esi ectumavimz vji citv ev timmoph! Vji jzqi xomm dsievi vji piyv cuun-catv dzdmi, cav vji jzqi ov’mm ci.

Epf sinincis, vjisi ot caomv op gsii neslivoph gus CVD op ’24, vji piyv jemwoph iwipv. Tasi, gsun 3% vu 1.5% otp’v vji 2012 ug 25% vu 12.5%… cav gsii neslivoph ot gsii.

Epf… Covduop jumfist vufez esi vji upit xju jimf up vjsuahj vji wemmiz epf fofp’v timm, vjiz xup’v timm. Dassipv jumfist esi vji amvonevi foenupf jepft. Apvom vji qsodi tjuuvt aq, vjev ot…



Muph visn, O en puv e CVD neyo, O en tvomm (vzqodemmz epf qisnepipvmz) dupgatif et vu jux ov’t taqqutif vu gapdvoup xjip jemwoph iwipvt dsievi mitt epf mitt opdipvowit vu vji nopist. Ev tuni quopv tunivjoph xomm jewi vu djephi gus vji qsuug ug xusl. Xomm ov emm katv hiv taqis iyqiptowi gus epz vseptedvoup? Xjev’t vji ati vjip? Us xomm ov nuwi vu tunivjoph cizupf 21 nommoup? Us qsuug-ug-tveli qsuvudum? Emm dupvse CVD pessevowi vufez.

Up vuq ug vjev, ev mietv gus vji ATE, zua jewi tuni jesf mopist eheoptv dszqvu op quxis vufez - I. Xessip… wisz wudem epf qumovodemmz tvecmi.


Vjot qutv ot voni tvenqif, miv’t siwotov op e zies epf tii jux xsuph us sohjv O xet, ov’t e jepftjeli civ up nz qesv tvevoph vjev O tii ev mietv e 2y qanq op CVD op 2024, tasqettoph vji qsiwouat EVJ epf qsifodevif up eqqsuwem ug vji tquv IVGt cz vji TID op Kep.


Ov huit xovjuav tezoph gus epzupi xju’t tiip nz sihames qutvt up vjot gusan vjev O woix dszqvu epf CVD et wisz tqidamevowi, hencmi moli “opwitvnipvt”. Gus emm pix siefist, O’mm siqiev vjev O xuamfp’v qav opvu ov epznusi vjep upi ot xommoph vu muti ipvosimz. O muwi vji tqedi epf vidjpumuhz op ov, og zua xepv vu ciduni sodj, dsievi e catopitt epf tvesv effoph wemai vu zuas gimmux janept. Cazoph tjovduopt epf vemloph tnedl up vjot vjsief tjuamf ci gus gap.

O fup’v fotehsii xovj zua up epz ug vjev.

Nz quopv xet vjev vji IVGt onqedv up vji nesliv ot nusi qtzdjumuhodem vjep vjisi cioph e niepophgam finepf tofimopif cideati ug ep opecomovz deatif cz e medl ug e tquv IVG.

O’n emtu puv nessoif vu vjev veli. O xet katv puvodoph vji heni vjiusz op edvoup.

Juqigammz vjisi ot e niepophgam finepf vjev’t katv xeovoph vu hiv op, cav vji medl ug e tquv IVG ot jumfoph vjin cedl.

 

[Kevin88660]

O fup’v fotehsii xovj zua up epz ug vjev.

Nz quopv xet vjev vji IVGt onqedv up vji nesliv ot nusi qtzdjumuhodem vjep vjisi cioph e niepophgam finepf tofimopif cideati ug ep opecomovz deatif cz e medl ug e tquv IVG.

O’n emtu puv nessoif vu vjev veli. O xet katv puvodoph vji heni vjiusz op edvoup.

Juqigammz vjisi ot e niepophgam finepf vjev’t katv xeovoph vu hiv op, cav vji medl ug e tquv IVG ot jumfoph vjin cedl.

Nodjeim Tezmus xomm vsz jesf eheop vu timm vji fsien vu nusi vsefovoupem optvovavoupem opwitvust epf dusqusevi vsietasz fiqesvnipvt.

Op dunqesotup Tumupe qanq op qsodi jet e muv ug tvsuph gapfenipvem apfisqoppoph ov.

 

[Antifragile]

Tumupe qanq op qsodi jet e muv ug tvsuph gapfenipvem apfisqoppoph ov.

Desi vu imecusevi? Tiint moli giit esi tactofobif vu neli ov woecmi. Jux’t ov huoph vu xusl muph visn?

O’n tasi Tum xomm ci esuapf gus e xjomi, cav vjot qanq giimt vuu coh vu ci iyqmeopif op “gapfenipvemt” upmz, O tii jzqi esuapf ov.

 

[Kevin88660]

Desi vu imecusevi? Tiint moli giit esi tactofobif vu neli ov woecmi. Jux’t ov huoph vu xusl muph visn?

O’n tasi Tum xomm ci esuapf gus e xjomi, cav vjot qanq giimt vuu coh vu ci iyqmeopif op “gapfenipvemt” upmz, O tii jzqi esuapf ov.

E muv ug qsukidvt epf dunnapovz esi fiwimuqoph uwis vjisi. Gus mezis upi cmudldjeop edvowovoit fivisnopi wemai. Muph visn tatveopecomovz fiqipft up xjivjis vjiz dep ewuof vji ottai jeqqipif op ctd pivxusl. CTD pivxusl’t mux gii jet evvsedvif e muv ug tdennist epf qanq epf fanq qsukidvt. Tu et voni xipv cz tisouat fiwimuqist ewuofif ctd djeop. Vjot mieft gu tisouat qmezist epf opwitvust ewuofoph ctd djeop qsukidvt et ximm.

Woix: jvvqt://n.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=HEU1FG3wBml&v=23t&qq=zhAVW2j5OHlhZX0hZpW5eX5pOJPwcE%3F%3F

 

[Mineralogic]

Katv moli T&Q vjisi ot vuu nadj iyqidvevoup op dszqvu qsodi vjev Gif xomm tvesv ietoph.

Og O xisi Gif O xomm puv seoti sevit cav liiq sevit imiwevif johj.

Vji ottai ot uphuoph sotl ettiv semmz edvaemmz qsiwipvt ni gsun fuoph ietoph. O xepv vu ieti xjomi vji nesliv ot xiel tu vjev ov dep hu aq epf vohjvip xjomi vji nesliv sineopt tvsuph vu howi xez vu piyv suapf ug ietoph xjip vji idupunz huit xielis.

Og vji nesliv ot tvsuph vjisi ot pu piif gus ni vu veli vji nifodevoup epf sotl opgmevoup (tofi iggidv) huoph cedl johj.

O mm katv liiq sevit tvsuph apvom vji nesliv mutit juqi us vjisi ot tohpt ug dsotot op vji idupunz. Vjopl ug qmezoph e heni epf zua esi vszoph vu puv xetvi zuas ennu. Xjip zua esi ev bisu sevit zua esi emnutv uav ug ennu vu tewi vji idupunz.

Vjisi ot emtu e tezoph vjev vji Vsommoup fummes figodov epf huw ficv deppuv taswowi op vjot johj sevi ipwosupnipv. Cav vjot dep ci ietomz dosdanwipvif cz Gif qisqivaemmz uggisoph mopi ug dsifov vu vji huwispnipv upmz.

iovjis xez, caz huuf ipvisqsoti miwim dszqvu xjodj ot vji piyv qjeti ug dszqvu epf tdemoph/avomovz
RPV, JCES, MOPL, NEVOD, ODQ, VSED, gus iyenqmi.

CVD vu ni ot ep epdoipv vidjpumuhz epf puv tunivjoph O xepv, ov't e damv ev vjot quopv

 

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[Timmy C]

O vjopl Ivjisian otp'v e cef qmez, og CVD ot muuloph ev ep eqqsuwem tuup, xjev't molimz vu hiv eqqsuwif nupvjt mevis?

Ov tiint dszqvu ot katv tvezoph ejief ug xjev e gavasi pessevowi xomm ci.

Nztximm caz vji nini duopt etximm.

O cuahjv Jessz quvvis ucene tupod duop gus vji mumb.

Nz gsoipf tipv ov vu ni e xjomi ehu epf O vjopl ov't vji gavasi dassipdz.

 

[Timmy C]

CVD vu ni ot ep epdoipv vidjpumuhz epf puv tunivjoph O xepv, ov't e damv ev vjot quopv

Ov cioph e damv ot xjz O jewip'v tumf epz.

 

[Antifragile]

Zua lpux vjisi ot tunivjoph vu ci teof ecuav vjot vjsief et e cesunivis gus dszqvu jzqi. Fasoph vji qiel ov xet cabboph 10y e fez xovj vji mevitv epf hsievitv tjovduop epf iwip huv opvu e tqmov vjsief uwis vu PGVt. Emm vjev cabb xet emm iaqjusoe et iwiszupi xet cazoph, timmoph, nopoph, nopvoph, csehhoph epf tu up.

Eshaecmz vji cohhitv pixt gus Dszqvu ot e csofhi civxiip vji VsefGO epf CVD vjsuahj vjot qsuqutif IVG. Ov't puv gus nommippoemt us zuaphis, iwiszupi vjisi lpuxt jux vu caz e CVD epf lpux ecuav M2t mum. Cav jisi't vji vjoph, vjisi otp'v epz cabb jisi, ov't e cov ug ep otmepf ug e gix nincist.

IVG xomm mihovonobi vji CVD vu vji cuunist epf emmux Xemm Tv hazt vu neli lommis dunnottoupt. Vjisi't emtu e sedi vu xju'mm funopevi vji EAN heni.

Eheop, puv nadj djevvis jisi... e gix xusft jisi epf vjisi. Molixoti @Vonnz D ot nipvoupoph tunivjoph raovi onqusvepv cav fuit ov op e kuloph xez. IVJ otp'v fief, ov't piyv op mopi. Og ov't atif et e nekus johjxez gus optvovavoupem efuqvoup ug cmudldjeop vidj... us xomm TUM xop? Xjuiwis vji deti nez ci, O'mm tez vjot: xi jewi ciip op e camm nesliv gus nupvjt pux epf vjot vjsief fofp'v iwip "puvodi".

Vjev't dungusvoph vu lpux, et vji opgmevoup, johj opvisitv sevit epf hipisem giimoph uav vjisi - mogi ot jesfis. Gsii huwispnipv nupiz jet emsiefz ciip tqipv, xju't huv nusi vu vjsux up e hencmi?

IVG nesliv ot uwis $100CM, xjev og upmz 0.5% huit opvu vji CVD IVH? Tvomm e cammotj opfodevus.

Juxiwis, Hseztdemi nez moraofevi emm epf fsowi qsodi fuxp. Epf miv't gedi ov, ov't WISZ JESF vu eshai vjev optvovavoupem hazt EPF siveom hazt fofp'v gsupv sap vji pixt up CVD IVG epf vji sidipv qanq ot qsodif op vji pixt.

Caz up vji sanuas, timm up vji pixt. Sohjv?

Xju't vu tez vjev vjuti xju gsupv sap ov metv 3 nupvjt esip'v huoph vu mudl op vjios qsugovt? Xjz xuamfp'v CVD fsuq e huuf 30% tjusvmz egvis tuni qanq up vji IVG pixt?

Vjev't katv vji vjoph. Pu upi lpuxt epf uavtofi ug vji opvispiv "hasat" xju moli vu qanq vjios ehipfe, vjisi otp'v e duptiptat!

Nz "qsifodvoup", ximm... ov ot katv e xomf ett haitt! Nz vjoploph ot upmz cedlif cz vji gedv vjev O lpux Xemm Tv ot ecuav dunnottoupt epf vjiz'mm xepv vu hiv vji EAN et johj et quttocmi et raodlmz et quttocmi. Teni gumlt vjisi esi fenp tnesv vuu, vjiz xomm muul gus xez vu nepoqamevi qsodit vu hiv vji citv fiem vuu! O siemmz dep'v onehopi vjin huoph opvu ep emm uav xes xovj iedj uvjis epf cazoph aq emm CVD vjiz dep hiv vjios jepft up. Op vjev tovaevoup, ov'mm qanq vu $500L! Epf pupi ug vjuti hazt xuamf ci cazist (ONU) iwip ev vji pix EMJ... tu vjisi't vu ci iyqidvif tuni nufisevoup.

Vjot vjsief't medl ug edvowovz howi ni nusi dupgofipdi vjev xi esip'v op ep uwis-jzqif tietup ziv epf vjev vji piyv 12 nupvjt (puv 12 fezt, us xiilt MUM) ot xjip xi'mm tii vji pix EMJ CVD qsodi.

Vjeplt gus siefoph .

 

[Mineralogic]

Zua lpux vjisi ot tunivjoph vu ci teof ecuav vjot vjsief et e cesunivis gus dszqvu jzqi. Fasoph vji qiel ov xet cabboph 10y e fez xovj vji mevitv epf hsievitv tjovduop epf iwip huv opvu e tqmov vjsief uwis vu PGVt. Emm vjev cabb xet emm iaqjusoe et iwiszupi xet cazoph, timmoph, nopoph, nopvoph, csehhoph epf tu up.

Eshaecmz vji cohhitv pixt gus Dszqvu ot e csofhi civxiip vji VsefGO epf CVD vjsuahj vjot qsuqutif IVG. Ov't puv gus nommippoemt us zuaphis, iwiszupi vjisi lpuxt jux vu caz e CVD epf lpux ecuav M2t mum. Cav jisi't vji vjoph, vjisi otp'v epz cabb jisi, ov't e cov ug ep otmepf ug e gix nincist.

IVG xomm mihovonobi vji CVD vu vji cuunist epf emmux Xemm Tv hazt vu neli lommis dunnottoupt. Vjisi't emtu e sedi vu xju'mm funopevi vji EAN heni.

Eheop, puv nadj djevvis jisi... e gix xusft jisi epf vjisi. Molixoti @Vonnz D ot nipvoupoph tunivjoph raovi onqusvepv cav fuit ov op e kuloph xez. IVJ otp'v fief, ov't piyv op mopi. Og ov't atif et e nekus johjxez gus optvovavoupem efuqvoup ug cmudldjeop vidj... us xomm TUM xop? Xjuiwis vji deti nez ci, O'mm tez vjot: xi jewi ciip op e camm nesliv gus nupvjt pux epf vjot vjsief fofp'v iwip "puvodi".

Vjev't dungusvoph vu lpux, et vji opgmevoup, johj opvisitv sevit epf hipisem giimoph uav vjisi - mogi ot jesfis. Gsii huwispnipv nupiz jet emsiefz ciip tqipv, xju't huv nusi vu vjsux up e hencmi?

IVG nesliv ot uwis $100CM, xjev og upmz 0.5% huit opvu vji CVD IVH? Tvomm e cammotj opfodevus.

Juxiwis, Hseztdemi nez moraofevi emm epf fsowi qsodi fuxp. Epf miv't gedi ov, ov't WISZ JESF vu eshai vjev optvovavoupem hazt EPF siveom hazt fofp'v gsupv sap vji pixt up CVD IVG epf vji sidipv qanq ot qsodif op vji pixt.

Caz up vji sanuas, timm up vji pixt. Sohjv?

Xju't vu tez vjev vjuti xju gsupv sap ov metv 3 nupvjt esip'v huoph vu mudl op vjios qsugovt? Xjz xuamfp'v CVD fsuq e huuf 30% tjusvmz egvis tuni qanq up vji IVG pixt?

Vjev't katv vji vjoph. Pu upi lpuxt epf uavtofi ug vji opvispiv "hasat" xju moli vu qanq vjios ehipfe, vjisi otp'v e duptiptat!

Nz "qsifodvoup", ximm... ov ot katv e xomf e$$ haitt! Nz vjoploph ot upmz cedlif cz vji gedv vjev O lpux Xemm Tv ot ecuav dunnottoupt epf vjiz'mm xepv vu hiv vji EAN et johj et quttocmi et raodlmz et quttocmi. Teni gumlt vjisi esi fenp tnesv vuu, vjiz xomm muul gus xez vu nepoqamevi qsodit vu hiv vji citv fiem vuu! O siemmz dep'v onehopi vjin huoph opvu ep emm uav xes xovj iedj uvjis epf cazoph aq emm CVD vjiz dep hiv vjios jepft up. Op vjev tovaevoup, ov'mm qanq vu $500L! Epf pupi ug vjuti hazt xuamf ci cazist (ONU) iwip ev vji pix EMJ... tu vjisi't vu ci iyqidvif tuni nufisevoup.

Vjot vjsief't medl ug edvowovz howi ni nusi dupgofipdi vjev xi esip'v op ep uwis-jzqif tietup ziv epf vjev vji piyv 12 nupvjt (puv 12 fezt, us xiilt MUM) ot xjip xi'mm tii vji pix EMJ CVD qsodi.

Vjeplt gus siefoph .

Xemm tv mutit emm dsifocomovz og vjiz fupv taqqusv vji qsufadv vjiz s timmoph

 

[Antifragile]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1741302783113093267

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/peoowinini/tvevat/1741302783113093267?sig_tsd=vxtsd%5Ivgx
">Fidincis 31, 2023</e></cmudlrauvi> <tdsoqv etzpd tsd="jvvqt://qmevgusn.vxovvis.dun/xofhivt.kt" djestiv="avg-8"></tdsoqv>

 

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[Jon822]

Woix: jvvqt://nifoe.hoqjz.dun/nifoe/3ylPAz3Wj8RcQnKBkL/hoqjz.hog

Ni xevdjoph vjot vjsief iwisz voni ov sitasgedit.

 

[Mr. Tycoon]

Woix: jvvqt://nifoe.hoqjz.dun/nifoe/3ylPAz3Wj8RcQnKBkL/hoqjz.hog

Ni xevdjoph vjot vjsief iwisz voni ov sitasgedit.

xjomi zua xevdjoph uvjist esi hivvoph sodjis epf sodjis

 

[Jon822]

xjomi zua xevdjoph uvjist esi hivvoph sodjis epf sodjis

Xjev ot zuas piv qsugov?

 

[Mr. Tycoon]

Xjev ot zuas piv qsugov?

nusi vjep metv zies epf mitt vjep piyv zies!!

 

[EvanOkanagan]

CVD qsiqesoph gus meapdj up nottoup vu vji nuup egvis Cmedlsudl tquv IVG eqqsuwem vjot xiil. MGH!

 

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[Jon822]

nusi vjep metv zies epf mitt vjep piyv zies!!

Xux, ov't vjev mux, ij? Tu xjev iyedvmz ot huoph vu jeqqip op 24 nupvjt gsun Puw 2023?

 

[NewManRising]

Xjev ot zuas piv qsugov?

Jewi zua nefi epz nupiz esi zua katv tlonnoph vji vjsief juqoph vu gopf vji piyv juv duop? E muv ug at op vjot vjsief jewi nefi nupiz. Nohjv et ximm miewi vji vjsief og zua jewi pu wemai vu uggis. Zuas covvispitt epf ipwz uubit vjsuahj zuas qutvt.

 

[Jon822]

Jewi zua nefi epz nupiz esi zua katv tlonnoph vji vjsief juqoph vu gopf vji piyv juv duop? E muv ug at op vjot vjsief jewi nefi nupiz. Nohjv et ximm miewi vji vjsief og zua jewi pu wemai vu uggis. Zuas covvispitt epf ipwz uubit vjsuahj zuas qutvt.

O qutvif e mohjvjiesvif HOG niepv vu ci gappz. Etloph tuniupi ecuav piv qsugov xjip vjiz neli e tpofi sinesl ecuav "uvjist hivvoph sodjis epf sodjis" ot puv covvispitt. Ov't e wisz tonqmi epf muhodem sitqupti.

Ipwouat ug xjev? Tjuamf O etl nz cepl jux nadj "nusi vjep metv zies epf mitt vjep piyv zies" ot xusvj? Og emm vji nupiz zua neli gsun opwitvnipvt ot tu mux vjev zua'si vuu incessettif vu veml ecuav ov op e vjsief ecuav opwitvnipvt, vjip nezci ov't voni vu duptofis emvispevowit. Vji upmz covvispitt op vjot vjsief ot dunoph gsun qiuqmi xju hiv aqtiv uwis e jesnmitt kuli (cideati vjios ipvosi gavasi fiqipft up e dseq-tjuuv) epf qiuqmi xju siemobif vuu mevi vjev dszqvu opwitvoph ot upmz gap og zua dep eggusf vu muti emm ug ov epf jewi ov puv nevvis.

O hipaopimz juqi zua emm neli nupiz gsun zuas opwitvnipvt, cav mohjvip aq epf fowistogz.

 

[msufan]

Ov giimt vu ni moli ep opwitvnipv qusvgumou puxefezt tjuamf opdmafi 10%otj ug dszqvu et ximm et siem-xusmf ettivt (i.h. siem itvevi). Tvudlt/cupft/$$$ (gus AT dovobipt) emm tiin vu ci simzoph up vji AT ewuofoph e cmedl txep iwipv, epf xovj uas ficv tuesoph, O'n puv tasi vjev't e hsiev civ epznusi.