Backlink Indexing Case Study

[James Fake]

Great thread kwerner!

 

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[mrsandman]

Good point but if they get more links indexed than the others the cost could actually be cheaper than throwing your money away on something producing little to no results. I may try it out and see how it does. I was just hoping you already did the work for me

Haven't tried that one; heard of it, but IMO the cost is too much for the amount of links they can process. $60 a month to process 250 links a day?? No thanks.

I think kurtyordy's suggestion will be my next test, after this one is finished. With each post from the rss feeds spun to be unique, in theory it should produce significantly better results.

 

[kwerner]

Week 3 Results:

Method ----- Percentage Of Links Indexed

Backlinks Energizer: 14.75%
Bookmarking: 12.73%
Control Group: 5.79%
Linklicious: 6.43%
Pinging: 5.07%
Scrapebox AA Blast: 11.28%


Backlinks Energizer remains the leader this week, followed by Bookmarking and Scrapebox Blasting. Honestly, I was hoping to see one of the methods break 20% or more by now, but I guess it shows how difficult profile links can be to get indexed. At least the results have been progressing steadily, so maybe it will happen next week.

Also, you might have noticed that the results from Pinging actually dropped from last week to this week, and now is less than the control group. I'm assuming that's because some of the links got deleted by mods or something, I don't know, kind of weird.

 

[biophase]

I know I always ask this. But a graph would be cool. :smxB:

 

[kwerner]

For Biophase:





On another note, I received a PM from the owner of BacklinksIndexer and he said he would like to offer me a free account to include his service in this test. I think I will take him up on his offer, but first I will finish the results of this test (next week is the last week) then I'll create another 4 week test which will include any new services or methods.

 

[kwerner]

Week 4 Results:

Method ----- Percentage Of Links Indexed

Backlinks Energizer: 21.11%
Bookmarking: 14.54%
Control Group: 9.50%
Linklicious: 7.03%
Pinging: 5.92%
Scrapebox AA Blast: 13.23%



In the final week of the test, Backlinks Energizer takes the gold medal, followed by Bookmarking, then the Scrapebox AA List.

Pinging and using Linklicious to index forum profiles turned out to be the two worst methods to use; you're probably better off letting google find those links on its own (the control group).

I'm not sure if I'm going to do another backlinks indexing test or not, like I mentioned in the previous post. Right now I have tens of thousands of forum profile links to process, so I have to set up some more BLE sites and that takes a little while.

But if there's enough responses to try additional indexing methods I may do another case study; it would be really great to find a way to get 50%+ indexing of forum profiles. =)

So if you guys have suggestions, let me know.

 

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[biophase]

Thanks for the graph! You can definitely see that BLE's slope is much greater than the other services. Have you thought about getting funding to do more tests? I'm thinking that you can run a case study on somebody else's sites as they pay for SEO and backlink indexing and you get more data for your tests.

So for example, I would pay for the 6 SEO packages run on my sites, you would run the backlink indexing tests on the packages at your cost. Win-win maybe?

I am not sure how unsimilar sites would effect the results.

 

[kwerner]

Have you thought about getting funding to do more tests? I'm thinking that you can run a case study on somebody else's sites as they pay for SEO and backlink indexing and you get more data for your tests.

So for example, I would pay for the 6 SEO packages run on my sites, you would run the backlink indexing tests on the packages at your cost. Win-win maybe?

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding what you mean here.

Really I just decided to do the test because people were recommending different methods and I wanted to test which works the best for getting forum profiles indexed. So I thought I'd share my findings with everyone on here as a way to "give back" to the community since I've learned so much from you guys over the years.

 

[biophase]

Oh, maybe I misunderstood your test. I thought you were creating websites (with spun articles), buying link packages and then testing out indexing services as a test. If that was the case, there would have been costs associated with doing these tests. I was offering a way to alleviate some of the costs of running these tests.

 

[kwerner]

Yeah, that's basically it.

What I'm doing right now is backlinking all my first tier urls with SEnuke + AMR + Angela/Paul profiles, then blasting the hell out of those second & third tiers with forum profile links and testing out different methods to try and get those forum profile links indexed. The cost of those are super cheap because I just outsource them in blocks of 10,000 on Fiverr.

The costs of the indexing methods are no problem too because I own bookmarking demon, scrapebox, etc.

The biggest pain is the time involved in setting up the BLE blogs, but if it's consistently producing better results, in the long run it's worth it. Plus, once you get them all set up, there's no weekly maintenance; it's just "set it and forget it".

 

[mrsandman]

I've seen similar results for myself using BLE but now I have too many backlinks to index on a daily basis to make that practical. I'm thinking of trying out backlinksindexer.com after reading about the case study here about profile links: Backlinks Indexer Review – Profile Links Case Study

 

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[kwerner]

I've seen similar results for myself using BLE but now I have too many backlinks to index on a daily basis to make that practical.

I too am now in this predicament. Had a guy on Fiverr create 20,000 forum profile links and now I realize that running them through BLE would literally take years to process. Doh! Guess I should have planned ahead for this, huh?

So now it looks as though I need to test out some services that can process tens of thousands of links per month.

Anyone have suggestions for this?

Maybe I'll run a test of Backlinks Indexer, Bookmarking Demon, Scrapebox, and a few others.

 

[mrsandman]

Would love to see this test. I'd probably include linklicious and lindexed too

 

[kwerner]

Would love to see this test. I'd probably include linklicious and lindexed too

I included linklicious in the previous test and it was one of the worst performers (even the control group performed better), so I wouldn't be inclined to add it to the new test. And I believe lindexed pretty much uses the same method as linklicious to crawl / index links, so I'm not sure that it would make sense to try it either.

 

[mrsandman]

oh, good point. Maybe try Nuclear Link Indexer and Xindexer to see how they compare.

 

[mrsandman]

I was thinking you should probably include BacklinkBooster in your study also. Any word on when you will start this?

 

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[mrsandman]

Still plan on doing this next case study mate? Let me know if I can help at all because I'm interested to know also.

 

[kwerner]

Still plan on doing this next case study mate? Let me know if I can help at all because I'm interested to know also.

Yeah, I haven't decided if I'm going to do it or not.

I feel like the services that charge the monthly fee for this stuff aren't nearly providing enough value to justify the cost.

For example, one of the services charges $99 a month to process 15,000 urls. That's F*cking ridiculous for indexing forum profiles! I have WAY more than 15,000 forum profiles to process every month. The cost simply outweighs the benefit received.

As a matter of fact, I have yet to see a case study that proves that indexing your forum profiles using one of these services actually results in better serp movement than having google find them on its own.

And the end result that we all want to see is better serp movement, not just indexation. That $99 a month people are spending on these types of services could be put to FAR better uses that would produce much greater, proven, serp results.

That's why I'm hesitant to continue the case study.

 

[kwerner]

Just an update on this thread...

I've been outsourcing the forum profile backlinks on Fiverr like I mentioned previously; building about 10,000 every other week to my 2nd and 3rd Tier links, then running them through BLE (with settings on 5 links per post, 12 posts per day).

I've got about 80,000 backlogged, which means it's going to take forever for BLE to process them, that's why I'm now only making 10,000 every other week.

But I'm getting about a 34% indexation rate of the forum profiles, so although it's slow, it seems to be working pretty good. =)

 

[jessica_david]

its very good for all of us..thank to you for performing this test..hope you will share all results in better shape so that every one can get befit from it, for me it is also a annoying challenge that how can we boost indexing..as i am running few blogs..some of my post got indexed just after 5 mins of posting(without bookmarking or using any other tool to boost) while on same blog next post may take time to 24 to 48 hours(some time even more) even if i do bookmarking for them..

 

[mrsandman]

I'm trying some similar things but I decided to try backlinksindexer, nuclear link indexer and xindexer. My data is all on paper so I'd probably need to organize it better but right now I'm getting about a 76% index rate with backlinksindexer.com, about 41% index rate with nuclear link indexer and about 38% with xindexer. My backlink energizer is getting around 37% but the only downside there is I can only get so many of my links processed per day so it's kinda slow.

P.S. I started on March 9th so today is 2 weeks

Just an update on this thread...

I've been outsourcing the forum profile backlinks on Fiverr like I mentioned previously; building about 10,000 every other week to my 2nd and 3rd Tier links, then running them through BLE (with settings on 5 links per post, 12 posts per day).

I've got about 80,000 backlogged, which means it's going to take forever for BLE to process them, that's why I'm now only making 10,000 every other week.

But I'm getting about a 34% indexation rate of the forum profiles, so although it's slow, it seems to be working pretty good. =)

 

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[kwerner]

Sounds like great results, but are these links only forum profiles or a mixture of different link types?

Thx.

 

[Yussef]

Been testing the BLE plugin for the last week or two. Should be ready for the case study.

But I'm wondering if there is enough interest here on the forum to proceed with the test or not? Only 2 people have mentioned that they were looking forward to the results.

If there's not enough interest, that's understandable, I realize there's not a whole lot of SEO interest / topics here. But if you are interested, let me know and I'll either share the results in this thread or PM you.

I for one am interested

 

[Dan Da Man]

Out of all the solutions you presented, you have left out the most effective indexing solutions.

I use to use scrapebox but after the last Panda, scrapebox has been having a hard time with indexing 2.0s, especially the garbage senuke creates.

Nuclear Link Indexer and Backlinkindexer are the 2 and really only solutions to indexing your backlinks Guaranteed. I am creating a custom 2.0 bot and a bookmarking bot which will most likely be more cost effecient then both of these

 

[kwerner]

I use to use scrapebox but after the last Panda, scrapebox has been having a hard time with indexing 2.0s, especially the garbage senuke creates.

This test was specifically for indexing Forum Profiles, not Web 2.0's. If people can't get their Web 2.0s indexed, they're doing something wrong IMO, because those are the easiest types of links to get indexed.

Nuclear Link Indexer and Backlinkindexer are the 2 and really only solutions to indexing your backlinks Guaranteed.

A few other people mentioned these services, but IMO the cost isn't justifiable; especially for indexing forum profiles.

 

[Dan Da Man]

This test was specifically for indexing Forum Profiles, not Web 2.0's. If people can't get their Web 2.0s indexed, they're doing something wrong IMO, because those are the easiest types of links to get indexed.



A few other people mentioned these services, but IMO the cost isn't justifiable; especially for indexing forum profiles.

Well, good luck trying to index forum profiles. Pretty much a waste of time in my opinion unless you add tons of content to the profile.

To each their own

 

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[kwerner]

Well, good luck trying to index forum profiles. Pretty much a waste of time in my opinion unless you add tons of content to the profile.

To each their own

I think you might be missing the point...

Forum profiles are very difficult to index, everyone knows this. Therefore, I was looking for a simple, cost effective, solution to increase the indexation rate of these notoriously difficult links, mainly for efficiency.

Now, another takeaway from this test is that if a tool is good enough to index forum profiles, how good of job would it do at indexing other (easier) types of links, such as web 2.0's, like you mentioned?

 

[Dan Da Man]

I think you might be missing the point...

Forum profiles are very difficult to index, everyone knows this. Therefore, I was looking for a simple, cost effective, solution to increase the indexation rate of these notoriously difficult links, mainly for efficiency.

Now, another takeaway from this test is that if a tool is good enough to index forum profiles, how good of job would it do at indexing other (easier) types of links, such as web 2.0's, like you mentioned?

I see your point but 2.0s should not be a problem indexing. Depending on how your spinning your articles and what 2.0 sites your using and how many you are creating.

For me, I have my own bots which will be creating 1,000s a day. So indexing them will be a bitch only because I have so many first tiers and I have to build backlinks at a 3 to 1 ratio. Build more tiers and thats all the indexing I need.

Remember you must have unique titles as well. I use ubertoolz which will create 500 spun titles at a time.

 

[kwerner]

Okay, *now* I understand why you'd want to use Nuclear Link Indexer / Backlink Indexer to help get your web2.0's indexed. If you're creating that many it's totally understandable and probably a cost effective solution. I take it you're using Ubot or Zenno to create your web2.0's?

Yeah, I use Ubertoolz as well, the Ubercubez module is pretty badass; it really took me a while to figure it out though, wasted a lot of time creating my Ubercube the wrong way, haha. You must be using the Premium membership, I'm just doing the Standard so I only get 100 title variations, but it's no biggie.

Thanks for the clarification on what you're using NLI and BI for, makes total sense now. =)

Rep++

 

[Dan Da Man]

Okay, *now* I understand why you'd want to use Nuclear Link Indexer / Backlink Indexer to help get your web2.0's indexed. If you're creating that many it's totally understandable and probably a cost effective solution. I take it you're using Ubot or Zenno to create your web2.0's?

Yeah, I use Ubertoolz as well, the Ubercubez module is pretty badass; it really took me a while to figure it out though, wasted a lot of time creating my Ubercube the wrong way, haha. You must be using the Premium membership, I'm just doing the Standard so I only get 100 title variations, but it's no biggie.

Thanks for the clarification on what you're using NLI and BI for, makes total sense now. =)

Rep++

I tried zenno but I had a hard time getting a hang of it so yeah Im using ubot right now.

Cool man thanks Are you a member over at blackhatworld by the way?