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Any Jordan Peterson fans/critics out there, or anyone who has read 12 rules for life? I'm curious what some of the fast-lane opinions are. Got the book because I liked a lot of what I saw from him online, and it was interesting to hear the hype online, endless people talking about how the book "turned their life around". Not that I need my life turned around, but was still curious enough to get it.

I'm about 100 pages in and not positive what to think or if I need to keep reading. Some of the lessons seem obvious - maybe useful to people who's lives are a mess. But so far it's been: be confident, take care of yourself, don't hang out with losers, compare yourself to yourself not others. To be honest: a lot of this was covered in MFL it seems.
 

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Hey Trey,

I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan so i'll try to be unbiased with this.
I definitely think the book is worth reading all the way through, while some of the "rules for life" may seem a little obvious, there is valuable information throughout this book, Jordan's unique way of thinking and anecdotes really changes your perspective on the subjects he writes about.

With that said, It's quite a heavy read and I will likely have to read it again as I noticed myself struggling to completely comprehend some of the concepts he explains and writes about. I also found it a little too religion heavy for my preference but overall well worth continuing with.

Hope that helps!
 
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Hey Trey,

I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan so i'll try to be unbiased with this.
I definitely think the book is worth reading all the way through, while some of the "rules for life" may seem a little obvious, there is valuable information throughout this book, Jordan's unique way of thinking and anecdotes really changes your perspective on the subjects he writes about.

With that said, It's quite a heavy read and I will likely have to read it again as I noticed myself struggling to completely comprehend some of the concepts he explains and writes about. I also found it a little too religion heavy for my preference but overall well worth continuing with.

Hope that helps!
Thanks! I am finding the same thing that it's a heavy read - even just his vocabulary is far beyond what I can comprehend at points.

I do find a lot of what he says about gender roles interesting, as well as preparing for chaos (although it seems a bit dark) - I think I'll more than likely finish reading
 

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I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan. I really liked 12 Rules for Life, but it's a pretty heavy read and probably requires more than one read through. I took a bunch of notes and keep going back to them.

I particularly love that he's a big fan of cleaning up your own life before taking on the world. Like people who march for causes but can't even brush their hair. :oops:
 

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Any Jordan Peterson fans/critics out there, or anyone who has read 12 rules for life? I'm curious what some of the fast-lane opinions are. Got the book because I liked a lot of what I saw from him online, and it was interesting to hear the hype online, endless people talking about how the book "turned their life around". Not that I need my life turned around, but was still curious enough to get it.

I'm about 100 pages in and not positive what to think or if I need to keep reading. Some of the lessons seem obvious - maybe useful to people who's lives are a mess. But so far it's been: be confident, take care of yourself, don't hang out with losers, compare yourself to yourself not others. To be honest: a lot of this was covered in MFL it seems.
Same here I read from rule 1 to rule 5 (about 144 pages).

I like watching the guy talk. I think that oral medium of communication is where he shines. He is terrific and there is something captivating about him, his message and his eloquence.

His message makes sense and I agree with him. There is nothing new or groundbreaking, maybe aside from the fact of embracing the chaos. And so I am reading the book more to get into an "exchange" with his mind, rather than for the content.

And at times, I find he is pushing the limit. For example, the link between humans not taking care of themselves and the Genesis is for me far stretched.

I definitely plan to go back and finish the book at one point.
 
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He's basically a reaction to western societal defects, which are centered around the university regime. Apparently in his country they went completely nuts; people could unilaterally declare a new pronoun for themselves, and if you didn't use it you could be punished.

In a world of Antes E Depois Da Federal, there will also be Jordan Petersons trying to restore sanity.
 

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CLEAN YOUR ROOM!

Jokes aside, I'm not really a "fan" meaning I don't belong to the crowd of fellas that everything Dr. Peterson says, they take it extremely serious.
Although I went through a lot of his material and I think that even though there is a lot of basic things, most of us fail at being persistent with that he says.
The book was a valuable source of informations (heavy on religion) but might help you turn some doors you have in your head.

I respet his work and I think he has literally helped thousands with his youtube videos
 
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Same here I read from rule 1 to rule 5 (about 144 pages).
I like watching the guy talk. I think that oral medium of communication is where he shines. t.
Exactly what I was thinking - love his speaking but the written stuff is a little bit harder to stay tuned in for. Will likely finish too lol.
 
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I'm a huge fan. I started watching his lectures about a month ago. I'm about 1/3 through his book 12 Rules For life and I find it life-changing.
 

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I like Jordan Peterson, the book was challenging to finish though and I agree with others about the heaviness.

I found the last two rules very powerfully explained (Rule 11: D:Do not bother children when skateboarding explanation was eye opening in some ways). For someone not too familiar with Dostoevsky, political thinking and Jungian psychology, it can be much more interesting in my opinion.
 
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I like Jordan Peterson, the book was challenging to finish though and I agree with others about the heaviness.

I found the last two rules very powerfully explained (Rule 11:Do not bother children when skateboarding explanation was eye opening in some ways). For someone not to familiar with Dostoevsky, political thinking and Jungian psychology, it can be much more interesting in my opinion.
Man, after the book I will ever never eat a lobster roll anymore :D
 

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Never heard of him, thought he was one of these new millennial gurus. Man, was I off.
 

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Big fan!
Like his talks, am reading the book at night and have it as an audiobook (which he reads himself, check it out!) playing in my car. But he should ease down on all the religious stuff and examples
 

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I like JP. Read 12 rules not so long ago.

I like his basic message of responsibility. There is a bit of a cultish following appearing though. Not sure what to make of that. I see it putting people off of him a bit.

On the religious side of things, I'm not christian, but I appreciate his take on the stories: moral, archetypal lessons. Stories we crafted by watching ourselves and learning from that. I think his focus on these stories comes from the fact that they have survived for so long, and so there comes the notion that perhaps they contain something of value, even if not exactly what fundamentalists would have you believe.
 

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I like JP. Read 12 rules not so long ago.

I like his basic message of responsibility. There is a bit of a cultish following appearing though. Not sure what to make of that. I see it putting people off of him a bit.

On the religious side of things, I'm not christian, but I appreciate his take on the stories: moral, archetypal lessons. Stories we crafted by watching ourselves and learning from that. I think his focus on these stories comes from the fact that they have survived for so long, and so there comes the notion that perhaps they contain something of value, even if not exactly what fundamentalists would have you believe.
I think you made a great point here and there are couple of videos of him lecturing a class about the stories of religion and their true meaning, even atheist thinkers used them to extract their theories.

With regards of the cult, I'm observing something like that and I can only say that is history repeating itself.
Peterson gave structure to a bunch of men that were kinda "lost"
Straighted them up, gave them couple of slaps in the face and have a structure for their daily life so they are no longer "useless" -
There will be who follow him everywhere even he would say "now drink this poison" and there will be people that will appreciate his knowledge but move away the second he becomes some cult leader (i'm in the 2nd group)
 

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Huge fan, met him after one of his talks. A great man who is on a mission and is literally helping people by the 10,000s to change their life in a huge, meaningful and dramatic way.

Glad to see the positive response on the forum.
 
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Never heard of him, thought he was one of these new millennial gurus. Man, was I off.
If you haven't seen his Cathy Newman interview, I would recommend taking a watch.
 

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Been following him about a year, not sure I'll read the book though.

The Cathy Newman interview was fantastic. Left me feeling sad as well in a bittersweet way though.
 

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I like him on what I like him on. But I certainly don't agree with him on everything.

He's a net positive in society, as a counterbalance to [politics I will omit on this forum]

But he's also a Deepak Chopra type who bends terms to fit his concepts.
 
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Been following him about a year, not sure I'll read the book though.

The Cathy Newman interview was fantastic. Left me feeling sad as well in a bittersweet way though.
Mostly because everyone's been nailed with the whole feminism thing for years - lots of misinformation. Even made me pay closer attention to my relationship. My girlfriend is far less aggressive in life and business (like many women I know) and hearing all this shit about how men and women are the same I always thought there was something wrong, but it's just biology.

Regarding the cult-like status, although Jordan Peterson is great, I think the hardcore cult following are the neckbeard types because he's saying: you need to be alpha, casual sex is wrong, women aren't as agressive, etc.
 

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Mostly because everyone's been nailed with the whole feminism thing for years - lots of misinformation. Even made me pay closer attention to my relationship. My girlfriend is far less aggressive in life and business (like many women I know) and hearing all this sh*t about how men and women are the same I always thought there was something wrong, but it's just biology.

Regarding the cult-like status, although Jordan Peterson is great, I think the hardcore cult following are the neckbeard types because he's saying: you need to be alpha, casual sex is wrong, women aren't as agressive, etc.
Ahh no for me what was depressing was the journalism side of it if that makes sense. She's smart, she knows better, but so many people believe what they hear and it's depressing to see despite how obvious it is. I know it's been going on forever but I haven't had a tv in quite a few years while traveling and had forgotten about it a little lol.

Edit: it's so late here and that is one of the crappiest explanations of a post I've ever given
 
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Mostly because everyone's been nailed with the whole feminism thing for years - lots of misinformation. Even made me pay closer attention to my relationship. My girlfriend is far less aggressive in life and business (like many women I know) and hearing all this sh*t about how men and women are the same I always thought there was something wrong, but it's just biology.

Regarding the cult-like status, although Jordan Peterson is great, I think the hardcore cult following are the neckbeard types because he's saying: you need to be alpha, casual sex is wrong, women aren't as agressive, etc.
So you are basically saying.... :D

The pay gap legend still triggers feminists lol
 

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I don't agree with everything he says, but I have to give him major Fastlane props. In addition to writing books, speaking fees, etc, his fans also support him with a Patreon account. His Patreon earnings doubled from $30k / month to $60k / month (!!) between April and October last year, and I assume they've continued to grow. Obviously a lot of people feel he's providing major value.
 

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