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<div class="bbWrapper">Hey Vick.. you said 95% of your business was in the states (I think).. Have you considered changing the default currency to US $? (Can you do that if your business is in Canada?)<br /> <br /> Whenever I go to a site and see that I have to buy something in Euros, pounds, or Canadian dollars I always look for something else because I don&#039;t want to pay more for shipping/wait extra long times.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24278" data-quote="Jakeeck" data-source="post: 423003" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423003" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423003">Jakeeck said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey Vick.. you said 95% of your business was in the states (I think).. Have you considered changing the default currency to US $? (Can you do that if your business is in Canada?)<br /> <br /> Whenever I go to a site and see that I have to buy something in Euros, pounds, or Canadian dollars I always look for something else because I don&#039;t want to pay more for shipping/wait extra long times. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> He has a point. <a href="https://apps.shopify.com/auto-currency-switcher" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">https://apps.shopify.com/auto-currency-switcher</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18986" data-quote="Catalyst" data-source="post: 422972" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=422972" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-422972">Catalyst said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> We are a seasonal product so with the exception of Christmas sales we are in our dip. I would think your ski and snowboard segment would be crankin though. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> This was my immediate 1st thought to <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> post about the slow cycle. Have you considered or are you currently in ski shops with mini kiosks of your glasses? You could definitely minimize your risks with some consignment deals with some slopes / shops. Just my $.02.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13509" data-quote="Vick" data-source="post: 422968" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=422968" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-422968">Vick said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> is anyone else sucking at sales recently? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>yup.<br /> <br /> Its my own decision though. CPMs are crazy high right now and my max bid isnt giving me a lot of traffic. Looking forward to after-holiday-CPMs.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24278" data-quote="Jakeeck" data-source="post: 423003" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423003" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423003">Jakeeck said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey Vick.. you said 95% of your business was in the states (I think).. Have you considered changing the default currency to US $? (Can you do that if your business is in Canada?)<br /> <br /> Whenever I go to a site and see that I have to buy something in Euros, pounds, or Canadian dollars I always look for something else because I don&#039;t want to pay more for shipping/wait extra long times. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 7270" data-quote="Phones" data-source="post: 423013" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423013" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423013">Phones said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> He has a point. <a href="https://apps.shopify.com/auto-currency-switcher" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://apps.shopify.com/auto-currency-switcher</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yes. I&#039;m switching in the new year. On Jan 1st</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 11370" data-quote="KLaw" data-source="post: 423117" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423117" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423117">KLaw said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This was my immediate 1st thought to <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> post about the slow cycle. Have you considered or are you currently in ski shops with mini kiosks of your glasses? You could definitely minimize your risks with some consignment deals with some slopes / shops. Just my $.02. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ya. Im def working on this. I ahve to wait until April because Im dont have enough inventory for these kind of deals. Im very low.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 422993" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=422993" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-422993">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> catalyst, curious on how your product is selling on Amazon this week.<br /> <br /> Vick, this should be the busiest week of the year. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Ya, I would&#039;ve thought so too. Doesnt seem to be the case though.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/8023/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="8023" data-username="@AllenCrawley">@AllenCrawley</a> I was going to post this anyway, might as well post it here so everyone can see.<br /> <br /> These are some of the IG accounts I use. They all have dif prices and rules, so Kik them and ask them. Some of them only do email.<br /> <br /> Please keep in mind that these are Niche driven to my brand, these are basically testoterone infused male followers, which works great for me. So they may or may not work for some people. I guess it depends on what your selling, either way, your hittin a shit load of people quickly. Which should help you drive your IG account up<br /> <br /> @NastyTrucksNation - $30 an hour, but I get great traffic from him. One of my best traffic sources, and a good friend now.<br /> @Amazing_Cars<br /> @CarsWithoutLimits<br /> @OffRoadNasty<br /> @AllTerrainTrucks<br /> @CarInstagram<br /> @Motor_Head_<br /> @bigbaddiesels<br /> @FeMotorWorks<br /> @TruckHub<br /> @SportsJokes<br /> @DieselKings<br /> @CarLifestyle<br /> @Fords4x4<br /> @ChickNation<br /> @AllTrucksDaily<br /> @Fitness.Edge<br /> @TattooedChicks<br /> @DieselTrucking<br /> @Mild2Wild<br /> @Bullets.Bikes.Cars<br /> @CallOfBooty<br /> @Amazing_Assets_<br /> @LongLiveYogaPants<br /> @Model.Behaviour<br /> @Prestige_Millionaire<br /> @Hardbody_Fitness<br /> @BodyBuildingNation<br /> @MotorCycleMafia<br /> @StreetBikeLife<br /> ---------<br /> One guy owns all these: His Kik is Bossofinstagram<br /> @Lamborghini_Motorsport<br /> @Automotivegramm<br /> @Lifes_Luxuries<br /> @ClassOfLuxury<br /> @TheCarReport<br /> @BlackForest_Motorsports<br /> @Worldclass_Motorsport<br /> @GentsLab<br /> ---------<br /> @babe.of.the.day1<br /> @BlueberryRidge<br /> @MX_steeze<br /> @MX_daily<br /> @team_cakez<br /> @truckfails<br /> @Auto.Unlimited<br /> @Truckaholics<br /> @FordCulture<br /> @RednecknMemes<br /> @Speed_Fanatics<br /> @BaddestDolls<br /> @SpankBay<br /> @Shift_Life<br /> @OfficialLiftedTrucks<br /> @TruckPorn<br /> @SportBikeAddicts<br /> @TruckedUpLife<br /> @TattooedGirls_<br /> @Aesthetic_Chicks<br /> @DirtyMyndz<br /> @SexToyLife<br /> <br /> There a more, but these are the main ones I use. I have many other smaller accounts that I use once in awhile when I take a break from annoying the followers in the accounts above. Im sure I left our some good ones too, I&#039;ll add to this list later on.<br /> <br /> Use wisely my friends <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-smile2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Generous of you Vick to give out your list</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hey Vick.. another thing. When I go to your site and click shop.. I can&#039;t see any of the glasses except for the very last one (maybe because there&#039;s only one in the row). I can only see the price and plus sign when I scroll over it. No picture.<br /> <br /> Not sure if it&#039;s anything. This is in IE 11 btw.. I opened it up in chrome and everything looks good.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 24278" data-quote="Jakeeck" data-source="post: 423324" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423324" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423324">Jakeeck said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey Vick.. another thing. When I go to your site and click shop.. I can&#039;t see any of the glasses except for the very last one (maybe because there&#039;s only one in the row). I can only see the price and plus sign when I scroll over it. No picture.<br /> <br /> Not sure if it&#039;s anything. This is in IE 11 btw.. I opened it up in chrome and everything looks good. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Your using Internet Explorer right?<br /> <br /> Therese some issues with the Collection page displaying images on IE<br /> <br /> I&#039;m looking into it</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13509" data-quote="Vick" data-source="post: 423327" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423327" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423327">Vick said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Your using Internet Explorer right?<br /> <br /> Therese some issues with the Collection page displaying images on IE<br /> <br /> I&#039;m looking into it </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>yep!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a>! Rep transferred.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Update. <br /> <br /> Here&#039;s our Lineup for April 2015.<br /> <br /> Had to make some last minute changes, like ditching the Graphic print camo designs. There may also be some changes after we get our samples in Jan. But for the most part, this is what will be available in April.<br /> <br /> Order size is double this time 2400 units<br /> <br /> REVO is Mirrored lens. Z87 is Safety Standard glasses with Polycarbonate Lenses, which are pretty expensive, so I kept those to a minimum for now.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/order03-lineup-webp.8789/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/5/5419-60c6c688a7a8a9315669ee27d17d1549.jpg?hash=0JSlb7a7q1" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Order03-LineUp.webp" title="Order03-LineUp.webp" width="203" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Regarding Canadian to US residency - you may want to start thinking outside of the box.<br /> <br /> My wife and I were in a 2.5 year intercontinental long distance relationship. We went the visa route for me to move to the UK and it was taking forever. Then I did some research and realized I could get EU citizenship through blood. I applied for the citizenship and got my EU passport within 1 year. Then I moved there, married her, and we moved to the US where she now has her green card.<br /> <br /> $100k-$150k or $500k-$1M is find if that&#039;s your ONLY way. Often times, there is more than one way to skin the cat. My situation doesn&#039;t apply to you, but there are MANY ways to get that sort of thing done.<br /> <br /> For example, what are the requirements to become a resident after working in the US on a work visa? Is it possible to get a work visa by getting a job in the US and then applying for residency after a time threshold? Or is your income so ridiculous now that you can laugh off a $150k investment?<br /> <br /> Also, what is the purpose of moving to the US? Just to be nearer to your target market? The situation with the returns? Or to avoid conversion fees? <br /> <br /> If you just want to LIVE in the US, there are much cheaper ways to do it that don&#039;t require you to move your business into the country. You can enter the US for several months at a time and live in a &quot;vacation home&quot; there, for example, so long as you meet a minimum amount of time spent in your home country, for example.<br /> <br /> If it&#039;s for returns, you can easily move to the use for several months (years?) at a time to handle that. You can use that time to hire an employee in the US to handle returns, as well, for example.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;m not that surprised sales have slowed; in addition to it now mostly being &quot;too late&quot; to buy for Christmas, there&#039;s the added wrinkle that your product is semi seasonal, at least in people&#039;s perceptions. Yes, everyone should use sunglasses year round, especially if they drive, but the fact is most people only think about them in the summer; people look at me like I&#039;m a weirdo when I wear mine in the winter out of the car. I think this might be part of the reason why Oalkey started making ski goggles. Yes, people wear sunglasses on the slopes, but they tend to wear goggles more frequently. I&#039;m not sure how you can diversify with the seasonal thing, but it might be worthwhile to ponder how you could break into markets in Australia and South America.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 13509" data-quote="Vick" data-source="post: 423439" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423439" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423439">Vick said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> REVO is Mirrored lens. Z87 is Safety Standard glasses with Polycarbonate Lenses, which are pretty expensive, so I kept those to a minimum for now. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Vick,<br /> <br /> I had a discussion this week with an Ontario Safety Councilor and he told me an interesting story.<br /> A distributor in Windsor was buying hoisting rings from a Chinese manufacturer that were &quot;Certified to CSA/ASME/ANSI standards&quot;<br /> Well, a few days after they started selling them; 1 broke, then 2, then 10, then 20. Several of their customer&#039;s hoists, dies and work areas were destroyed.<br /> The distributor had to recall everything, eat the costs and deal with a backlash from their customers.<br /> Fortunately, no one was killed.<br /> <br /> And the supplier? Told the distributor to suck a lemon.<br /> <br /> This is a strong wakeup for anyone looking to sell &quot;certified/standardized&quot; products. Do your due diligence. Vick, I recommend you send your safety-glass samples out for 3rd party testing.<br /> <br /> Also, look into CSA/ASME/ANSI regulations for safety glasses. The councilor told me most safety gear, by law, need thorough and repetitive QA.<br /> For example, manufacturers of lifting slings must break every 20th sling they fabricate, BY LAW.<br /> <br /> Keep up the great work!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Don&#039;t have much but rep transferred for that IG post! Very kind of you to share that with everyone.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18145" data-quote="wilddog" data-source="post: 423572" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=423572" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-423572">wilddog said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Vick,<br /> <br /> I had a discussion this week with an Ontario Safety Councilor and he told me an interesting story.<br /> A distributor in Windsor was buying hoisting rings from a Chinese manufacturer that were &quot;Certified to CSA/ASME/ANSI standards&quot;<br /> Well, a few days after they started selling them; 1 broke, then 2, then 10, then 20. Several of their customer&#039;s hoists, dies and work areas were destroyed.<br /> The distributor had to recall everything, eat the costs and deal with a backlash from their customers.<br /> Fortunately, no one was killed.<br /> <br /> And the supplier? Told the distributor to suck a lemon.<br /> <br /> This is a strong wakeup for anyone looking to sell &quot;certified/standardized&quot; products. Do your due diligence. Vick, I recommend you send your safety-glass samples out for 3rd party testing.<br /> <br /> Also, look into CSA/ASME/ANSI regulations for safety glasses. The councilor told me most safety gear, by law, need thorough and repetitive QA.<br /> For example, manufacturers of lifting slings must break every 20th sling they fabricate, BY LAW.<br /> <br /> Keep up the great work! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> wilddog is right on the money. Do your own 3rd party testing. I&#039;d be doing this when you get your sample and before you place your next order.<br /> <br /> I&#039;m in the baby furniture industry - and in the last 6-8 months there has been a huge amount of re-calls here in Aus for cots/cribs. All the manufacturers said they meet Aus/world standards. Do a bit of 3rd party testing and none of them do. Those companies with re-calls now must pay for shipping of items back to their base and refund their customers in full. Quick way to go out of business.<br /> <br /> Perhaps not the right attitude to have - but I wouldn&#039;t trust what the manufacturers say. Always do your own 3rd party testing. Always.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 422993" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=422993" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-422993">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> catalyst, curious on how your product is selling on Amazon this week.<br /> <br /> Vick, this should be the busiest week of the year. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Was busiest week, had trouble staying in stock, we ended up with several shipments in transit and as they were checking in we were almost out. Finally went OOS on Sunday for majority of day but think we are back stabilized and building inventory again. <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">My two cents about selling the safety glasses. You may want to consider getting product liability insurance. Our policy covers us in case something happens with the product and it also includes coverage in the event of a recall.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18986" data-quote="Catalyst" data-source="post: 424464" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=424464" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-424464">Catalyst said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Was busiest week, had trouble staying in stock, we ended up with several shipments in transit and as they were checking in we were almost out. Finally went OOS on Sunday for majority of day but think we are back stabilized and building inventory again. <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The reason I asked this last week, was because I was wondering if Vick was missing a huge boat by not being on Amazon. You said that you were slow last week and seasonal. Did you own online store (if you have one) experience an up tick in sales?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 424505" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=424505" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-424505">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The reason I asked this last week, was because I was wondering if Vick was missing a huge boat by not being on Amazon. You said that you were slow last week and seasonal. Did you own online store (if you have one) experience an up tick in sales? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a> <br /> <br /> We sell on Amazon and via our own site, our site traffic dropped going into December and our Amazon went crazy, we had a dramatic dip for a few days between cyber Monday and last week but had a strong (record?) couple of weeks.<br /> <br /> Excluding wholesale we are typically 50/50 Amazon vs site, post cyber Monday we were closer to 90/10 Amazon vs site. Amazon appears to prop us up during our slow time so yes I think <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> is missing out, but I think he mentioned earlier about not wanting to list on Amazon for branding reasons ( not saying I agree / disagree but I&#039;m all about sales channels )</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 18986" data-quote="Catalyst" data-source="post: 424559" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=424559" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-424559">Catalyst said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/23/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="23" data-username="@biophase">@biophase</a><br /> <br /> We sell on Amazon and via our own site, our site traffic dropped going into December and our Amazon went crazy, we had a dramatic dip for a few days between cyber Monday and last week but had a strong (record?) couple of weeks.<br /> <br /> Excluding wholesale we are typically 50/50 Amazon vs site, post cyber Monday we were closer to 90/10 Amazon vs site. Amazon appears to prop us up during our slow time so yes I think <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/13509/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="13509" data-username="@Vick">@Vick</a> is missing out, but I think he mentioned earlier about not wanting to list on Amazon for branding reasons ( not saying I agree / disagree but I&#039;m all about sales channels ) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I totally understand the branding portion and not wanting to be on Amazon, but Amazon is such a monster now that I feel Vick is missed out on holiday sales. I really think that if he were on Amazon he would have sold out. I only ran out of stock on 3 products this year since I was better prepared, but last year I ran out of almost everything and many of my friends on Amazon sold out of all their stock last week. The holiday shopping season is over for us now and Cyber Monday was my biggest sales day ever. Dec 13-19 were also huge days. Sales died on Dec 20.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 23" data-quote="biophase" data-source="post: 424602" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=424602" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-424602">biophase said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I totally understand the branding portion and not wanting to be on Amazon, but Amazon is such a monster now that I feel Vick is missed out on holiday sales. I really think that if he were on Amazon he would have sold out. I only ran out of stock on 3 products this year since I was better prepared, but last year I ran out of almost everything and many of my friends on Amazon sold out of all their stock last week. The holiday shopping season is over for us now and Cyber Monday was my biggest sales day ever. Dec 13-19 were also huge days. Sales died on Dec 20. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> ya I agree, I need to get on there. I&#039;m going to try and setup Amazon again.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Just now starting this thread and I&#039;m already impressed. I&#039;ve seen your ads before (a few of my friends like your FB page) and had no idea I&#039;d find the story here, so cool to see. Congrats on your success Vick and best of luck in 2015!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Update.<br /> <br /> Our shades did not pass Z87 testing. So for now, we are just focusing on normal sunglasses with Z80 rating (what we currently have). Maybe a blessing in disguise, this way we don&#039;t have to deal with safety issues and lawsuits if something happened. Maybe in the future I&#039;ll revisit this when I&#039;m more experienced.<br /> <br /> ------<br /> <br /> Were also looking into an Aviator frame and a Wayfarer style, to be launched while I work on our new &#039;Custom&#039; Design. <br /> <br /> Reason being, we need some variety. I could spend a shit load and make our own molds for these, but they wouldn&#039;t be much different then whats already out there. For these 2 styles, I think it&#039;s best to go this route and save a crap load of time and money. And to test.<br /> <br /> So the Aviator and Wayfarer will be branded with our logo, from already existing frames. More details on this later.<br /> <br /> I spent many hours searching for the perfect Avy and Wayfarer that suits our brand. So hopefully we can have these up around April/May. Fortunately I can do a lot with colors and logo placement, size, etc, to give them a little EIGHT flare. <br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Going to try and work with Amazon again. Seems like sales from there would be difficult, given the competition. But I&#039;ll try. <br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Launching a sister brand for women. Will be a separate entity/website, linked to EIGHT and vice versa. This won&#039;t be up for awhile. The wifey is looking into women&#039;s designs. Consisting of already made frames, branded with our logo/name, whatever that may be. I&#039;ll be designing some graphic work/color layouts and such for them, so there is some distinction from everything else.<br /> <br /> We&#039;ll send traffic from IWEAR8.com to IWEAR?.com <br /> <br /> Sister website link in the top menu.<br /> <br /> So each site will mirror each other, with opposite color schemes, etc. Same website themes.<br /> <br /> Might be beneficial to tap some of that market as well, at least test anyway, won&#039;t cost much. <br /> <br /> I want EIGHT to be a Male driven brand. Sort of similar to what Quiksilver does with Roxy.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Sales are still up. Surprisingly. Seems like word of mouth is spreading. Because sales are coming in and very few are conversions from advertising. Good sign. Also, getting repeat customers. Very few returns from Black Friday, think we&#039;ve had like 4, again, because of fitting. <br /> <br /> Been driving traffic with Facebook again. Took a break from IG advertising so that I can test that. Seems to be working ok, getting conversions now. But still expensive. Still tweaking. I want to have an automated advertising system set in place so that I can focus on other stuff and not be contacting IG pages all day long. It can be quite time intensive to do IG shit. So ya, giving Facebook another try.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Inventory is running really low. I guess that&#039;s a good thing, but also a bad thing. Hopefully we get our next shipment on time in April.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Setup a Reviews page and system using an auto generated App from Shopify. Its called Yopto \<br /> <a href="http://iwear8.com/pages/reviews" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">http://iwear8.com/pages/reviews</a><br /> <br /> Works great.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Sponsored Team Swoop &gt; <a href="http://www.teamswoop.com/Team_Swoop/Welcome.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">http://www.teamswoop.com/Team_Swoop/Welcome.html</a><br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> We get our new V.1 samples in a few weeks. Pretty excited to see the new variations. Hopefully they turn out good.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Talked with my manufacturer about defects. She said they allow small minor defects and not major defects. <br /> <br /> But, she said I can do 3rd party inspection, which is for 100% defect free, that don&#039;t allow minor and major defects. Somewhat expensive though. <br /> <br /> For our 3rd shipment, when we do about 5000 units is where we&#039;ll take advantage of this service. In the mean time, 2400 units is doable for us to keep checking them, before shipping.<br /> <br /> But it&#039;s nice to know that when were doing large runs, the defect rate will be very low. Hopefully. Time will tell I guess.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> Working on some apparel as well. Need some up sell products.<br /> <br /> Designing some cool graphics for some tees and maybe hats. Maybe a black and white Baseball tee.<br /> <br /> simple black and white tees.<br /> <br /> bold simple graphics, using only black or white. emphasis on forms and shape, using flat planar geometric shapes. <br /> <br /> Working on a cool octopus design, kinda cool as it relates the the number 8.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> <br /> anyway, that&#039;s about it for now.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Wayfarer is very popular in the car tuner culture. I really like your sunglasses even though they&#039;re geared towards men. The women lineup of 8 is something I look forward to. As far as Amazon goes, people in different countries sell on Amazon using FBA, like Kerin12.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">100% QC will be expensive, but will certainly help when you scale. Just need to be very clear what the 3rd party QC should be looking for. You should have a good idea of the type of defects that occur after inspecting your current stock.<br /> <br /> Have you looked at advertising to any other countries outside the US/Canada? Australia is currently in the summer. Might be something to consider once you have 100% QC setup, then you can look into 3PL in other countries. Might be just as cost-effective to ship from the States though?</div>
 

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