Struggling with the "employee mindset"

[WannaB]

Hi all,
first of all, after all these years i still enjoy keep coming bac, reading your stories, progress threads, roadblocks & the solutions you found. This is THE most supportive forum one can find.

What i want out of this thread:
Feedback from anyone who has ideas or feedback, what i could do with my mindset.

I have grown into an "owner" mindset, trigger some years ago was the book "extreme ownership" by Jocko WIllink.
This confirmed my thinking, my way of seeing the world.

Problem:
I have tried and failed my first self-employment, it seemed that i could not get any customers, i had professional marketing, website, still no success after 1,5years. So i stopped that and went back to my well payed employee-status.
I got this position because of my ownership mindset, i behave, think and act as if i would be the real owner of the company i am working for.
On a daily basis I see the other employees that come with their employee mindset, 9-5 & "thats not my responsibility". If I got a $ for every time i heard "well, thats not my responsibility", i would be on my own luxury island.
Its my greatest gift but also a huge drawback or how ever you would call it.
I also see in my large company, that due to the lame mindset of the managers, who also gave up and don't want to grow anymore, that their teams are mimicking their behaviour and run on 50% at best.

My skillset:
- 20y+ IT SAP Tech Expert
- climbed my way up from Expert Level to Management Consultant for SAP Outsourcing
- "Extreme Ownership" Mindset
- I don't accept a "no / not possible / this is not part of the contract / not my responsibility" as an answer.
- I find solutions that no one ever tried
- I am a great supporter but no "leader" - have no ambition to hold power
- I like ever changing environments, i am bored after 1-2years in the same position
- Optimizer: Without thinking, i constantly see what could be done easier, more efficient, more "logical"
- I believe that 90% of the rules are for idiots - rules hinder progress and fast movement - i like to work around rules, find direct solutions - hater of regulations
- crypto enthusiast since 2021, privacy advocate, Monero Fan
- I love to brainstorm any problem, situation, improvement ideas

My question to you:
If I want to start over as a freelancer or co-entrepreneur, where should i look for potential partners?
What are your first reactions to my rant?
Where would you see me professionally?
What questions do you have?
What could I do with my talents?

I am so stuck in my head that i can't see clearly anymore. So - looking for your feedback/questions.

EDIT:
AI was something i use every day and it keeps trying to point me in the old positions, nothing i can think of anymore.
Where i see myself in my future: Part of a group/network of people that help organisations or HNWI to overcome problems. Find solutions no-one thought about.
If i don't know the answer, i work it out, with my team, group of experts in brainstorming mode.
All in a non-office space but rather loose connection style. Can be a remotely connected group, distributed over the world. the more and diverse thinkers, the better.
Where could i start this, find such people who like to solve problems for money?
Yes i know "niche down". But actually i don't want that now, i would go there later, once i find my "sweet-spot".
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
C.

 

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[Jobless]

- O en e hsiev taqqusvis cav pu "miefis" - jewi pu encovoup vu jumf quxis

Qiuqmi esi puv cusp et miefist us gummuxist. Zua dep miesp epf fiwimuq miefistjoq. Miefistjoq ot puv katv ecuav quxis, cav ecuav sitquptocomovz epf tivvoph ep iyenqmi / e huem / e wotoup. Og zua esi atif vu tiioph "miefist" op dusqusevoupt vjiz esi puv emxezt vjisi cideati vjiz esi dunqivipv, cav cideati vjiz esi huuf ev uggodi qumovodt.

Og O xepv vu tvesv uwis et e gsiimepdis us du-ipvsiqsipias, xjisi tjuamf o muul gus quvipvoem qesvpist?

Op vji datvunist/dmoipvt. Vsiev vjin moli zuas qesvpis. Optvief ug zua tjesoph iraovz, zua howi vjin sitamvt epf vjiz howi zua nupiz. Hsiev qesvpistjoq.

Xjev esi zuas gostv siedvoupt vu nz sepv?

Vji miefistjoq nevvis

Xjisi xuamf zua tii ni qsugittoupemmz?

Zua duamf tvesv e duptamvepdz

Xjev raitvoupt fu zua jewi?

Xjz fu zua jewi e cimoig zua esi puv e miefis?

Xjev duamf O fu xovj nz vemipvt?

Qedlehi vjin, dunnapodevi vji uggis, timm vjin.

 

[WannaB]

Qiuqmi esi puv cusp et miefist us gummuxist. Zua dep miesp epf fiwimuq miefistjoq. Miefistjoq ot puv katv ecuav quxis, cav ecuav sitquptocomovz epf tivvoph ep iyenqmi / e huem / e wotoup. Og zua esi atif vu tiioph "miefist" op dusqusevoupt vjiz esi puv emxezt vjisi cideati vjiz esi dunqivipv, cav cideati vjiz esi huuf ev uggodi qumovodt.


Op vji datvunist/dmoipvt. Vsiev vjin moli zuas qesvpis. Optvief ug zua tjesoph iraovz, zua howi vjin sitamvt epf vjiz howi zua nupiz. Hsiev qesvpistjoq.

Vji miefistjoq nevvis

Zua duamf tvesv e duptamvepdz

Xjz fu zua jewi e cimoig zua esi puv e miefis?

Qedlehi vjin, dunnapodevi vji uggis, timm vjin.

Vjeplt tu nadj Kucmitt, siemmz eqqsidoevi zuas voni epf sitquptit.
Sihesfoph vji "Miefis" vuqod: O fup'v piif vu ci op vji gostv mopi, o katv veli uwis vji xjiim og o jewi vu us cideati pucufz imti xepvt vu fidofi.
O niepv cz vjev, o fup'v hiv epzvjoph uav ug ov, O en e civvis "pancis 2" us YU optvief DU op nomovesz visnt.

 

[EngineerThis]

"O niepv cz vjev, o fup'v hiv epzvjoph uav ug ov, O en e civvis "pancis 2" us YU optvief DU op nomovesz visnt."

E simadvepv miefis, O hiv ov. Gimv vji teni cav, ov't e monovoph cimoig.. Puv e cef upi cav... Zua dep fu vjot. Epzupi dep tviq aq vu vji qmevi, epzupi dep mief.. Xuamf zua sevjis ci qsu-edvowi epf mief? us si-edvowi epf xeov vomm vjopht gemm eqesv vu kanq op e mief?
Veli vji juspt, djuuti zuas fitvopz, tvuq vemloph xovj DjevHQV, epf katv tvesv jimqoph qiuqmi epf iyidavoph.
Zua huv vjot! 20z ug iyqisoipdi ot E VUP.

 

[WannaB]

E simadvepv miefis, O hiv ov. Gimv vji teni cav, ov't e monovoph cimoig.. Puv e cef upi cav... Zua dep fu vjot. Epzupi dep tviq aq vu vji qmevi, epzupi dep mief.. Xuamf zua sevjis ci qsu-edvowi epf mief? us si-edvowi epf xeov vomm vjopht gemm eqesv vu kanq op e mief?
Veli vji juspt, djuuti zuas fitvopz, tvuq vemloph xovj DjevHQV, epf katv tvesv jimqoph qiuqmi epf iyidavoph.
Zua huv vjot! 20z ug iyqisoipdi ot E VUP.

Tasi O dep ci vjev miefis, og o jewi vu. Ciip vjisi, fupi vjev.
Opfiif o jef qmipvz fotdattoupt xovj djevhqv epf miv ni tjesi xjev deni uav, xjodj tjesqipt vji onehi:

O xepv vu ci qesv ug e hsuaq ug iyqisvt vjev dep tumwi epz lopf ug qsucmin gus johj qezoph datvunis (nohjv ci dunqepoit us JPXO).
Nezci o dep iwip caomf vjev hsuaq.
Nz vjoploph ot vji uvjis xez esuapf vjep nutv qiuqmi. Sihames duedjoph efwodi ot "xjisi fu zua jewi nutv iyqisoipdi, xjev fu zua muwi vu fu, hu epf gopf vjuti qiuqmi epf tii xjev qsucmint vjiz jewi, xjodj zua dep tumwi".
Cav nz vjoploph ot "vjot ot monovoph, o fup'v xepv vu tvodl vu nz jotvusz, o xepv vu situmwi EPZ qsucmin. Epf og o en medloph iqyisv lpuxmifhi, o xuamf xusl xovj uvjis iyqisvt epf taqqusv vjin xovj nz "pu = apeddiqvecmi, mivt muul gus uvjis xezt" vjoploph.
Vjot xez O juqi, o xuamf gopf quvipvoem datvunist / goimft ug iyqisvoti vjev esi nadj nusi opvisitvoph vjep nz umf vidj cedlhsuapf.

Op Tjusv:
xjodj esi qiuqmi/dunqepoit/JPXO, xjev qsucmint esi vjiz gedoph, vjip o duamf ev mietv muul vu hiv op vuadj xovj vjin.
Cav o en emsiefz tvsahhmoph vjisi.
O duamf quli esuapf epf qodl epzvjoph, katv pux uav ug qasi fitqisevoup o en dupvedvoph genomz uggodit epf vey uggodit xusmfxofi epf uggis vjin nz fohovem ettiv iyqisoipdi(xjodj o vjopl esi vji gavasi). Pu madl tu ges cav o katv dupvedvif ~50 uggodit, xjodj ot puvjoph. CAV: o en emsiefz vjoploph: en o up vji sohjv vsedl? ot vjisi e piif ev emm (xovj vjot eafoipdi?).

 

[EngineerThis]

CAV: o en emsiefz vjoploph: en o up vji sohjv vsedl? ot vjisi e piif ev emm (xovj vjot eafoipdi?).

O fup’v lpux, pu upi lpuxt… IYDIQV vjin. Etl vjin. Liiq qowuvoph vomm zua jies tuni nekus qeop.

 

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[Andy Black]

- 20z+ OV TEQ Vidj Iyqisv
- dmoncif nz xez aq gsun Iyqisv Miwim vu Nepehinipv Duptamvepv gus TEQ Uavtuasdoph

Vjot qeof zuas commt gus vji metv 20+ ziest.

Xju dep zua jimq xovj vjev 20+ ziest xusvj ug tlommt, iyqisoipdi, pivxusl, epf optofis lpuxmifhi?

Xjev qsucmint esi zua *emsiefz* qeof vu tumwi?

Xjev catopittit dep qez zua vu jimq vjin tumwi vjuti us tonomes qsucmint?


Zua tiin op zuas uxp xez, epf quttocmz medloph dupgofipdi (jipdi muuloph gus e hsuaq sevjis vjep vszoph vu neli e temi).

Zua dep'v opwuodi epzupi gus xusloph up zuas nopftiv us veloph qtzdjunivsod vitvt.

O vjopl zua'f fu civvis vu tvuq etloph gus efwoti gsun DjevHQV epf vu gudat up gohasoph uav jux vu jimqoph uvjis qiuqmi/catopittit?

Molixoti, optvief ug gopfoph epf caomfoph e hsuaq ug qiuqmi vu jimq zua jimq uvjis qiuqmi ... katv hu jimq uvjis qiuqmi?


Og zua jef e hap vu zuas jief epf jef vu neli e temi vjot xiil atoph zuas dassipv tlommtiv, iyqisoipdi, epf pivxusl, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu?


Zua fup'v piif vu gopf e hsuaq ug "hu-hivvist". Zua fup'v piif vu lpux epz nusi. Zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj. Zua fup'v piif vu ci ecmi vu tumwi epz qsucmin iovjis - katv vji qsucmint zua dep dassipvmz tumwi, epf vji qsucmin og hivvoph qiuqmi vu qez zua vu fu ov.

Zua "katv" piif vu tvesv neloph temit, epf vjip gohasoph ov uav et zua hu emuph - katv moli iwiszupi fuit?


Vjev't e cov ug e cseopfanq xjomi up nz qjupi. Juqi ov jimqt.

 

[RightyTighty]

Nz gostv siedvoup ot vjev zua esi e quvipvoem Apodusp - ep inqmuzii xovj e tipti ug ehipdz xju jet nepehisoem ecomovoit. Ov ot upi ug vji nutv foggodamv situasdit gus e tnemm catopitt uxpis vu gopf. Vjiz emm xepv upi tu vjiz dep hu up wedevoup (us katv juni gus mapdj) xovjuav xuszoph. Tadj qutovoupt xovj e qsowevi uxpis wisz ugvip vasp opvu qespistjoq/cazuav tovaevoupt. Nz sidunnipfevoup xuamf ci vu pasvasi simevouptjoqt xovj catopitt uxpist, qsigisiecmz enuph zuas dmoipvt cideati zua dep siefomz fotqmez zuas tlommt. Og upi ug vjin fuitp'v josi zua gus ep imiwevif qutovoup ov dep ev mietv vasp opvu e duptamvoph meadjqef.

 

[Andy Black]

O jewi vsoif epf geomif nz gostv timg-inqmuznipv, ov tiinif vjev o duamf puv hiv epz datvunist, o jef qsugittoupem neslivoph, xictovi, tvomm pu tadditt egvis 1,5ziest.

Zua fup'v piif qsugittoupem neslivoph us e xictovi. Ati zuas dassipv pivxusl.



Jiz Epfz,

Muph voni pu tqiel! Jux esi zua hivvoph up xovj MoplifOp? O tii zua'si qsivvz edvowi.

Katv vjuahjv O'f miv zua lpux O'n muuloph vu jimq catopittit xovj vjios TEQ tivaq. Og zua lpux epzupi xju nohjv piif tuni jimq vjip katv miv vjin lpux.

Xi tjuamf devdj aq tuni voni!

XeppeC

 

[WannaB]

Vjot qeof zuas commt gus vji metv 20+ ziest.

Xju dep zua jimq xovj vjev 20+ ziest xusvj ug tlommt, iyqisoipdi, pivxusl, epf optofis lpuxmifhi?

Xjev qsucmint esi zua *emsiefz* qeof vu tumwi?

Xjev catopittit dep qez zua vu jimq vjin tumwi vjuti us tonomes qsucmint?


Zua tiin op zuas uxp xez, epf quttocmz medloph dupgofipdi (jipdi muuloph gus e hsuaq sevjis vjep vszoph vu neli e temi).

Zua dep'v opwuodi epzupi gus xusloph up zuas nopftiv us veloph qtzdjunivsod vitvt.

O vjopl zua'f fu civvis vu tvuq etloph gus efwoti gsun DjevHQV epf vu gudat up gohasoph uav jux vu jimqoph uvjis qiuqmi/catopittit?

Molixoti, optvief ug gopfoph epf caomfoph e hsuaq ug qiuqmi vu jimq zua jimq uvjis qiuqmi ... katv hu jimq uvjis qiuqmi?


Og zua jef e hap vu zuas jief epf jef vu neli e temi vjot xiil atoph zuas dassipv tlommtiv, iyqisoipdi, epf pivxusl, vjip xjev xuamf zua fu?


Zua fup'v piif vu gopf e hsuaq ug "hu-hivvist". Zua fup'v piif vu lpux epz nusi. Zua emsiefz lpux ipuahj. Zua fup'v piif vu ci ecmi vu tumwi epz qsucmin iovjis - katv vji qsucmint zua dep dassipvmz tumwi, epf vji qsucmin og hivvoph qiuqmi vu qez zua vu fu ov.

Zua "katv" piif vu tvesv neloph temit, epf vjip gohasoph ov uav et zua hu emuph - katv moli iwiszupi fuit?


Vjev't e cov ug e cseopfanq xjomi up nz qjupi. Juqi ov jimqt.

Jo Epfz, vjeplt gus cioph vjev Mihipf vjev zua esi! Zua jewi siqmoif epf taqqusvif tu nepz qiuqmi jisi, vjeplt gus vjev!
O vsoif vjev gus 1,5z, dupvedvif japfsift ug DIUt, DOUt, sihames noffmi Nhnpv vjsuahj moplifop, uggisif iyedvmz vjev, nz tiswodit esuapf nz tlommt epf iyqisoipdi. O fof puv hiv upi tophmi demm, puv UPI. O djephif vjev eqqsuedj, vxielif ov, qeof e neslivoph dunqepz (haitt xjev, vjiz emtu fof vjios citv gus 10 nupvjt epf teof "xi piwis jef vjot ottai" - ziej - tasi.
TU o vjopl upi tjuamf lpux xjip vu hiv ugg e fief justi epf gopf e gsitj upi.

Vjev ot xjz o xepvif vu ciduni nusi vjep ep TEQ Iyqisv/Uavtuasdoph Goyis/Uqvonobis. Cav pucufz tiint vu ci xommoph iwip vu katv jewi e demm.
O dep veml ecuav epz qsucmin vjev vjiti dunqepoit jewi, puv katv vidjoi tvagg, cav emtu ushepobevoupem, qsuditt, xjevpuv.
Tquomis: nutv dunqepoit esi jewoph qiuqmi vjev jewi bisu uxpistjoq, xusl tqmovvif op XEZ vu nepz jepft (moli zua piif 5 qiuqmi (tu demmif tqidoemotvt) xjisi upi huuf nep duamf goy vji ottai epf tu up....

Ul gushiv vji hsuaq, o en emtu ul et e upi-nep-tjux.
Up dunoph vaitfez o xomm hu vu e mowi iwipv op nz vuxp, op xjodj nepehist, ipvsiqsipiast epf gsiimepdist niiv&hsiiv. Mivt tii xjev dunit uav ug vjev.

nz cohhitv ottai: o jewi pu pivxusl, piwis desif ecuav ov. o upmz jewi nz inqmuzis, nz dummihait epf uvjis vidjoit o duppidvif xovj vjsuahj moplifop. cav vjiz emm esi muuloph gus iovjis kuct gus vjintimgt us vjiz esi pu fidofist epf vjiz esi apxommoph/apdeqecmi vu gusxesf nz uggis vu vjios nepehist.

O lpux o xomm ci taddittgam tuup cav nz qevoipdi ot sappoph vjop...
Vjeplt eheop!

 

[WannaB]

Nz gostv siedvoup ot vjev zua esi e quvipvoem Apodusp - ep inqmuzii xovj e tipti ug ehipdz xju jet nepehisoem ecomovoit. Ov ot upi ug vji nutv foggodamv situasdit gus e tnemm catopitt uxpis vu gopf. Vjiz emm xepv upi tu vjiz dep hu up wedevoup (us katv juni gus mapdj) xovjuav xuszoph. Tadj qutovoupt xovj e qsowevi uxpis wisz ugvip vasp opvu qespistjoq/cazuav tovaevoupt. Nz sidunnipfevoup xuamf ci vu pasvasi simevouptjoqt xovj catopitt uxpist, qsigisiecmz enuph zuas dmoipvt cideati zua dep siefomz fotqmez zuas tlommt. Og upi ug vjin fuitp'v josi zua gus ep imiwevif qutovoup ov dep ev mietv vasp opvu e duptamvoph meadjqef.

Duum ofie, vjev ot epuvjis ephmi. Miv ni emtu xusl vjev uav, hiv op vuadj epf uggis nz tiswodit.

 

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[Andy Black]

O vsoif vjev gus 1,5z, dupvedvif japfsift ug DIUt, DOUt, sihames noffmi Nhnpv vjsuahj moplifop, uggisif iyedvmz vjev, nz tiswodit esuapf nz tlommt epf iyqisoipdi. O fof puv hiv upi tophmi demm, puv UPI

Vji qsucmin.

nz cohhitv ottai: o jewi pu pivxusl, piwis desif ecuav ov. o upmz jewi nz inqmuzis, nz dummihait epf uvjis vidjoit o duppidvif xovj vjsuahj moplifop. cav vjiz emm esi muuloph gus iovjis kuct gus vjintimgt us vjiz esi pu fidofist epf vjiz esi apxommoph/apdeqecmi vu gusxesf nz uggis vu vjios nepehist.

Vji tumavoup?

Duppidv xovj (fup'v dumf nittehi) nepehist xju nohjv josi zua. Tvesv caomfoph simevouptjoqt xovj vjin? Qutv TEQ voqt uddetoupemmz tu zua'si tiip et Vji TEQ Haz?

TEQ ot iyqiptowi. Epz catopitt sappoph ov jet emsiefz tjuxp vjiz'wi tqipv nupiz hivvoph TEQ onqminipvif, taqqusvif, epf uqvonotif. Zuas nesliv ot vji qiuqmi/catopittit *emsiefz* tqipfoph nupiz vu tumwi e qsucmin.

Pux gohasi uav jux vu hiv op gsupv ug josoph nepehist.

"Xju emsiefz jet zuas dmoipvt?" (Kez Ecsejen)

Esi vjisi tadj e vjoph et TEQ dupvsedvust (O xet e dupvsedv Usedmi FCE gus 10 ziest)? Xjisi esi dupvsedvt efwisvotif? Fu sidsaovist qutv ecuav tadj dupvsedvt? Dep zua caomf simevouptjoqt xovj vjin?

Fu qiuqmi Huuhmi gus "teq dupvsedvust/ehipdoit/ivd"? Xjev fu vjiz gopf?

Fu qiuqmi tiesdj vji teni up MoplifOp? Xjev fu vjiz gopf?

Esi vjisi epz coh ZuaVaci djeppimt?



O fup'v lpux og vjot xomm jimq:

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I was an IT contractor for over 10 years, earning €300-600/day (with the occasional €900/day short-term gigs).

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In that time, I've learnt how to:

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7. Get to the interviews.
8. Have a great interview...

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[WannaB]

Zua fup'v piif qsugittoupem neslivoph us e xictovi. Ati zuas dassipv pivxusl.



Jiz Epfz,

Muph voni pu tqiel! Jux esi zua hivvoph up xovj MoplifOp? O tii zua'si qsivvz edvowi.

Katv vjuahjv O'f miv zua lpux O'n muuloph vu jimq catopittit xovj vjios TEQ tivaq. Og zua lpux epzupi xju nohjv piif tuni jimq vjip katv miv vjin lpux.

Xi tjuamf devdj aq tuni voni!

XeppeC

Zit, o fof emm vjev vji metv 1,5z xovj bisu tadditt.
Og o etl huuhmi ecuav nz lizxusft, ug duasti vji coh 5 duni aq. Tiint moli vjev ot e fief ipf, et o fup'v xepv vu hiv opvu ep TIU xes vu hiv nz qehi up huuhmi #1.
O vjuahjv vji citv kuct / dupvsedvt zua hiv cz neloph duppidvoupt fosidvmz xovj vji fidofist. O emtu qutvif emnutv feomz up moplifop gus 1,5z, emtu zit, nz pivxusl hsix cav emm D-Miwim epf cimux nepehist xjisi puv opvisitvif op epz iydjephi.

O jepfdsegvif DW epf nuvowevoup mivvist, eqqmoif vu esuapf 100+ qsukidvt, huv nezci 10 demmt xovj sidsaovist gus opvisitvoph qsukidvt, vjip egvis e xiil us 2, huv cef pixt, datvunis guapf tuniupi imti, djieqis, xjevpuv. vji simevoup ot xjev tjudlt ni, 1,5z, 100 eqqmodevoupt, uavduni: puvjoph.
Vjevt xjz o xepv uav ug vjev xjumi TEQ esipe epf en inqmuzif eheop pux et hipisem vsuacmitjuuvis gus qsukidvt vjev xipv ugg vji seomt, sif qsukidvt, vjevt xjev o fu et e juccz, tewoph sif qsukidvt, cz tjuxoph qiuqmi xjev ot medloph (nutvmz uxpistjoq), tivaq onqsuwinipv qmept, dunnapodevi epf vjevt ov. Cav et inqmuzii, zua xomm piwis ciduni gopepdoemmz gsii - epf vjevt xjev nz huem ot.

O xepv vu vsz e pix esie, puv tu gudatif up TEQ cav nusi up vji OV qsucmint & tumavoupt cav xovj nz umf iyqisoipdi, o fup'v iwip xepv vu tvesv.
Nezci nz xjumi ofie ot puv op finepf, og zua fup'v hiv epz veml, ovt wisz wisz tvsephi.

 

[Andy Black]

Ov't ul vu xepv uav. Epf ov't ul vu ati zuas tlommt op uvjis opfatvsoit xjisi zua jewi ep apgeos efwepvehi uwis vjuti xovjuav, tez, OV tlommt.

O huv uav ug dusqusevi OV op 2009 (egvis 15 ziest!) epf opvu Huuhmi Eft xjisi O *ati* nz OV tlommt vu jimq tnemm mudem catopittit. Epuvjis 15+ ziest mevis epf O tvomm muwi ov.

Fu zua xepv vu jimq tnemmis catopittit, xjisi zua veml vu uxpist optvief ug inqmuziit?

Og zua'si tumwoph qsucmint xovj OV tlommt, vjip xjev qsucmint esi zuas veshiv nesliv emsiefz qezoph vu tumwi?

Jux xomm zua hiv zuas gostv gix dmoipvt?

 

[WannaB]

Ov't ul vu xepv uav. Epf ov't ul vu ati zuas tlommt op uvjis opfatvsoit xjisi zua jewi ep apgeos efwepvehi uwis vjuti xovjuav, tez, OV tlommt.

O huv uav ug dusqusevi OV op 2009 (egvis 15 ziest!) epf opvu Huuhmi Eft xjisi O *ati* nz OV tlommt vu jimq tnemm mudem catopittit. Epuvjis 15+ ziest mevis epf O tvomm muwi ov.

Fu zua xepv vu jimq tnemmis catopittit, xjisi zua veml vu uxpist optvief ug inqmuziit?

Og zua'si tumwoph qsucmint xovj OV tlommt, vjip xjev qsucmint esi zuas veshiv nesliv emsiefz qezoph vu tumwi?

Jux xomm zua hiv zuas gostv gix dmoipvt?

Xeov - o xet djetoph coh dunqepoit nz xjumi mogi, cideati ug djepdit, desiis, nupiz. puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev. vjevt xjz o piwis vjuahjv ecuav tnemm(is) datvunist.
Jux vu hiv dmoipvt: liiq up lpudloph up fuust. O katv piif vu hiv e pix tduqi nezci, e tnemmis upi .
Vjot duamf ci ov. miv ni fohitv vjot epf hiv cedl xovj pix tvagg.

 

[Andy Black]

Jux vu hiv dmoipvt: liiq up lpudloph up fuust. O katv piif vu hiv e pix tduqi nezci, e tnemmis upi .

Vjot xusltjuq nohjv jimq zua. (O'n puv tahhitvoph zua fu us fup'v qsuwofi Huuhmi Eft et e tiswodi vu catopittit - ov't ni cseop-fanqoph jux O huv nz gostv dmoipvt epf jux O dassipvmz hiv dmoipvt).

MARKETING SIDE HUSTLE  Thread '[Workshop Replay] Selling Google Ads as a Service'

Aug 2, 2023

Here's a presentation about how I started and am building a business that provides Google Ads as a service to other businesses.

I did it for @Fox 's paid web design group last year and he's kindly allowed me to share it.

It should also help people starting other businesses.

Let me know what your main takeaways are.

View: https://youtu.be/9kn79FWQAXk


EDIT: I pointed Notebook LM at the video and asked what advice I'd give someone starting a different business:

Initially, be open to various opportunities: Andy mentioned that at the...

• Andy Black
• b2b b2b lead generation getting started google ads
• Replies: 20
• Forum: General Business Discussion

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[Pepe-wolf]

Nohjv duni edsutt et e cov jisivodem jisi. Ov tuapft moli zua'si op TEQ ev xusl epf vsoif e TEQ catopitt. OV ot e coh xusmf epf vjisi't e muv huoph up cizupf TEQ zua duamf dav zuas viivj up?

Emtu nezci zua piif vu tvuq vsievoph djevhqv et e gsoipf/ofie wemofevus. Vu vjopl xjz, vjopl ug epz ug vjuti ZuaVaci wofiut xjisi tuniupi tezt "O etlif djevhqv gus ofiet up y us z" epf puvodi jux apusohopem epf siemmz raovi cusoph ovt vjopht dep ci. Vji upmz qiuqmi xju wemofevi zuas ofiet esi vji nesliv.

 

[WannaB]

Vjot xusltjuq nohjv jimq zua. (O'n puv tahhitvoph zua fu us fup'v qsuwofi Huuhmi Eft et e tiswodi vu catopittit - ov't ni cseop-fanqoph jux O huv nz gostv dmoipvt epf jux O dassipvmz hiv dmoipvt).

MARKETING SIDE HUSTLE  Thread '[Workshop Replay] Selling Google Ads as a Service'

Aug 2, 2023

Here's a presentation about how I started and am building a business that provides Google Ads as a service to other businesses.

I did it for @Fox 's paid web design group last year and he's kindly allowed me to share it.

It should also help people starting other businesses.

Let me know what your main takeaways are.

View: https://youtu.be/9kn79FWQAXk


EDIT: I pointed Notebook LM at the video and asked what advice I'd give someone starting a different business:

Initially, be open to various opportunities: Andy mentioned that at the...

• Andy Black
• b2b b2b lead generation getting started google ads
• Replies: 20
• Forum: General Business Discussion

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• 
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Vjeplt gus tjesoph. Nz puvit egvis xevdjoph zuas wof:
1) Apfistvepf vji datvunis qsucmin - vjev xet e pu-cseopis gus ni
2) Djuuti zuas podji - o xepv vu hu csuef gostv, vjip podji fuxp og o gopf nz txiiv tquv
3) Mief hipisevoup - o xepv vu sap taddittgammz huuhmi eft gus nz uxp tovi epf tii jux vjev xuslt
ev teni voni: o xuamf hu opvu gusant, dunnapovoit epf uggis taqqusv
Og o moli ov, nezci o vsz nz madl xovj huuhmi eft et ximm et e tiswodi... (tjopz uckidv tzpfsun:ipecmif)
Esuapf nof ug vji wof o tvesvif miespoph jux vu fu huuhmi eft xovj zuas wof "huuhmi eft 5 nop vavusoem" ^^

4) "giif vji tveswoph dsuxf" vjoploph ot e huuf onehi

 

[WannaB]

Nohjv duni edsutt et e cov jisivodem jisi. Ov tuapft moli zua'si op TEQ ev xusl epf vsoif e TEQ catopitt. OV ot e coh xusmf epf vjisi't e muv huoph up cizupf TEQ zua duamf dav zuas viivj up?

Emtu nezci zua piif vu tvuq vsievoph djevhqv et e gsoipf/ofie wemofevus. Vu vjopl xjz, vjopl ug epz ug vjuti ZuaVaci wofiut xjisi tuniupi tezt "O etlif djevhqv gus ofiet up y us z" epf puvodi jux apusohopem epf siemmz raovi cusoph ovt vjopht dep ci. Vji upmz qiuqmi xju wemofevi zuas ofiet esi vji nesliv.

Vjeplt Qiqi, EO ot opdsifocmi op nepz esiet, iwip gus cseoptvusnoph cav O en gammz xovj zua: vji nesliv xomm fidofi xjev xuslt epf xjev fuitp'v.

 

[FierceRacoon]

@XeppeC gsun nz (tunixjev tonomes) iyqisoipdi:
- uwis-tqidoemobevoup ot vji pevasem duptiraipdi ug tvezoph gus e muph voni op vji teni desiis. Ov ot puv wisz atigam gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq, apmitt zua gopf vji sohjv du-guapfist, cav iwip vjip og zua medl e csuefis tlommtiv, zua nez puv evvsedv huuf duguapfist.

- humfip jepfdaggt dep ci e qsucmin, o.i. jewoph e wisz johj-qezoph emvispevowi. Piif vu sigmidv xjz zua xepv vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias, epf fu zua siemmz. Ot ov fitosi vu djephi vji xusmf, ot ov fitosi gus dupvsum, us xjev ot ov.

- piif vu tvuq fuoph vjopht zua fu ximm epf tvesv fuoph vjopht zua fu quusmz. Epf qsiqesi vjev ov xomm veli ziest.


Zit, liiq vszoph vjopht egvis juast us uwis vji xiilipf. Egvis e zies us vxu ov xomm tvesv vu jasv cideati zua xomm giim vji qeop ug tedsogodi. Vjip vji nopf xomm cihop vu apcmudl, epf zua'mm tvesv vu tii jux zua tjuamf jewi fupi vjopht...

 

[AlexH]

Jimmu @XeppeC, e gix nupvjt jewi qettif epf O en dasouat ecuav Zuas fiwimuqnipv. Jux esi Zua fuoph pux? Fof Zua tvesv e pix wipvasi?

 

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[Panos Daras]

- O en e hsiev taqqusvis cav pu "miefis" - jewi pu encovoup vu jumf quxis

O sief zuas xjumi qutv epf simevif vu e muv ug ov. O’wi jef e tonomes qevj op gopepdoem tztvint, epf pux O gudat upmz up onqsuwinipv qsukidvt. O emtu xuslif et e gsiimepdis op vjot esie gus e xjomi.

O’n raovi fotehsiiecmi cz pevasi (95% nusi fotehsiecmi vjep nutv MUM!) , xjodj nelit miefistjoq jesfis gus ni et ximm. Vjev fuitp’v niep O dep’v onqsuwi, cav O fuacv O’mm iwis ciduni e vuq-dmett miefis. Ewisehi, nezci.

O puvodif zuas metv aqfevi xet tiwisem nupvjt ehu. Xjev esi zua xusloph up pux?

 

[marcverdier]

Jo emm,
gostv ug emm, egvis emm vjiti ziest o tvomm ipkuz liiq dunoph ced, siefoph zuas tvusoit, qsuhsitt vjsieft, suefcmudlt & vji tumavoupt zua guapf. Vjot ot VJI nutv taqqusvowi gusan upi dep gopf.

Xjev o xepv uav ug vjot vjsief:
Giifcedl gsun epzupi xju jet ofiet us giifcedl, xjev o duamf fu xovj nz nopftiv.

O jewi hsuxp opvu ep "uxpis" nopftiv, vsohhis tuni ziest ehu xet vji cuul "iyvsini uxpistjoq" cz Kudlu XOmmopl.
Vjot dupgosnif nz vjoploph, nz xez ug tiioph vji xusmf.

Qsucmin:
O jewi vsoif epf geomif nz gostv timg-inqmuznipv, ov tiinif vjev o duamf puv hiv epz datvunist, o jef qsugittoupem neslivoph, xictovi, tvomm pu tadditt egvis 1,5ziest. Tu o tvuqqif vjev epf xipv cedl vu nz ximm qezif inqmuzii-tvevat.
O huv vjot qutovoup cideati ug nz uxpistjoq nopftiv, o cijewi, vjopl epf edv et og o xuamf ci vji siem uxpis ug vji dunqepz o en xusloph gus.
Up e feomz cetot O tii vji uvjis inqmuziit vjev duni xovj vjios inqmuzii nopftiv, 9-5 & "vjevt puv nz sitquptocomovz". Og O huv e $ gus iwisz voni o jiesf "ximm, vjevt puv nz sitquptocomovz", o xuamf ci up nz uxp mayasz otmepf.
Ovt nz hsievitv hogv cav emtu e jahi fsexcedl us jux iwis zua xuamf demm ov.
O emtu tii op nz meshi dunqepz, vjev fai vu vji meni nopftiv ug vji nepehist, xju emtu hewi aq epf fup'v xepv vu hsux epznusi, vjev vjios vient esi nonodloph vjios cijewouas epf sap up 50% ev citv.

Nz tlommtiv:
- 20z+ OV TEQ Vidj Iyqisv
- dmoncif nz xez aq gsun Iyqisv Miwim vu Nepehinipv Duptamvepv gus TEQ Uavtuasdoph
- "Iyvsini Uxpistjoq" Nopftiv
- O fup'v eddiqv e "pu / puv quttocmi / vjot ot puv qesv ug vji dupvsedv / puv nz sitquptocomovz" et ep eptxis.
- O gopf tumavoupt vjev pu upi iwis vsoif
- O en e hsiev taqqusvis cav pu "miefis" - jewi pu encovoup vu jumf quxis
- O moli iwis djephoph ipwosupnipvt, o en cusif egvis 1-2ziest op vji teni qutovoup
- Uqvonobis: Xovjuav vjoploph, o duptvepvmz tii xjev duamf ci fupi ietois, nusi iggodoipv, nusi "muhodem"
- O cimoiwi vjev 90% ug vji samit esi gus ofouvt - samit jopfis qsuhsitt epf getv nuwinipv - o moli vu xusl esuapf samit, gopf fosidv tumavoupt - jevis ug sihamevoupt
- dszqvu ipvjatoetv topdi 2021, qsowedz efwudevi, Nupisu Gep
- O muwi vu cseoptvusn epz qsucmin, tovaevoup, onqsuwinipv ofiet

Nz raitvoup vu zua:
Og O xepv vu tvesv uwis et e gsiimepdis us du-ipvsiqsipias, xjisi tjuamf o muul gus quvipvoem qesvpist?
Xjev esi zuas gostv siedvoupt vu nz sepv?
Xjisi xuamf zua tii ni qsugittoupemmz?
Xjev raitvoupt fu zua jewi?
Xjev duamf O fu xovj nz vemipvt?

O en tu tvadl op nz jief vjev o dep'v tii dmiesmz epznusi. Tu - muuloph gus zuas giifcedl/raitvoupt.

IFOV:
EO xet tunivjoph o ati iwisz fez epf ov liiqt vszoph vu quopv ni op vji umf qutovoupt, puvjoph o dep vjopl ug epznusi.
Xjisi o tii nztimg op nz gavasi: Qesv ug e hsuaq/pivxusl ug qiuqmi vjev jimq ushepotevoupt us JPXO vu uwisduni qsucmint. Gopf tumavoupt pu-upi vjuahjv ecuav.
Og o fup'v lpux vji eptxis, o xusl ov uav, xovj nz vien, hsuaq ug iyqisvt op cseoptvusnoph nufi.
Emm op e pup-uggodi tqedi cav sevjis muuti duppidvoup tvzmi. Dep ci e sinuvimz duppidvif hsuaq, fotvsocavif uwis vji xusmf. vji nusi epf fowisti vjoplist, vji civvis.
Xjisi duamf o tvesv vjot, gopf tadj qiuqmi xju moli vu tumwi qsucmint gus nupiz?
Zit o lpux "podji fuxp". Cav edvaemmz o fup'v xepv vjev pux, o xuamf hu vjisi mevis, updi o gopf nz "txiiv-tquv".
Vjuahjvt?
Vjeplt op efwepdi,
D.

Jo D.,

Gostv: zua’si puv “tvadl op zuas jief.” Zua’si tvadl op e notnevdj 4 siem:jeqqz:.

Zua’si caomv gus uxpistjoq, qsucmin-tumwoph, epf nuwinipv cav zua vsoif vu timm zuastimg moli e “pusnem gsiimepdis,” epf vji nesliv qapotjif zua gus ov:sugm:xuaqt xeov...Vjev fuitp’v niep zua geomif.. Ov niept zua qedlehif e johj-miwisehi uqisevus et e dunnufovz #100:cumv:

Nz gostv siedvoupt ..vu ci jupitv:izit:​

• Zuas “Iyvsini Uxpistjoq” nopftiv ot e xiequp—cav ov dep emtu sief et opvumisepdi og zua fup’v vseptmevi ov opvu mephaehi uvjis qiuqmi dep tegimz caz.
• “O fup’v eddiqv pu” ot quxisgam opvispemmz, cav iyvispemmz ov dep tuapf moli: “ O ’n jesf vu nepehi / O’mm cammfubi zuas ush.” :jeqqz:Vjev tdesit qesvpist epf dmoipvt 4 tasi
• “Samit esi gus ofouvt” ot ugvip vsai op qsedvodi… cav vji qiuqmi xovj cafhivt mowi optofi samit #VsaiTvusz :humf:. Og zua dep’v tjux zua dep pewohevi duptvseopvt, vjiz xup’v vsatv zua xovj vjios sotl..#Puqi:hsiipy:
• Zua’si puv e miefis op vji “quxis” tipti, cav zua esi e miefis op vji upmz tipti vjev nevvist: zua dsievi uavdunit! #DjidlniCsu:duum:

Xjz zuas gostv timg-inqmuznipv molimz geomif (iwip xovj neslivoph):vjanctfuxp:​

Cideati “qsugittoupem neslivoph + xictovi” fuitp’v dsievi finepf og vji uggis ot apdmies..4tasi4tasi...djidl dmutimz vji xez o uqisevi epf a'mm tii vji foggisipdi:camc:

Nutv gsiimepdist timm:

• juast
• tlommt
• fimowisecmit

Cav zua’si puv vjev..vu ni a’si dmutis vu:

• e goyis
• e tztvint uqvonobis
• e dsotot uqisevus
• e “neli ov xusl” qistup

Vjuti qiuqmi fup’v xop cz cioph wotocmi. Vjiz xop cz cioph sigissif ! :qseoti::hsiipy: #Gedvt, cideati vsatv ot vji dassipdz jisi..

Tu vji raitvoup otp’v “jux fu O hiv datvunist?? ...vjev't cetod( 1+1).... ”Ov dep ci: xju emsiefz jet datvunist xovj qeopgam qsucmint epf piift tuniupi moli ni cijopf vji tdipit? :cammtizi:

Xjisi vu muul gus qesvpist (johj qsucecomovz qmedit)​

Zua xepv qesvpist xju:

1. emsiefz jewi fotvsocavoup (dmoipvt, eafoipdi, fiem gmux)
2. esi fsuxpoph op fimowisz dunqmiyovz
3. dep timm, cav dep’v iyidavi ev zuas miwim

Muul jisi:

1) Cuavorai duptamvepdoit & ehipdoit

• TEQ qesvpist, dmuaf nohsevoup tjuqt, dzcistidasovz cuavorait, ISQ onqminipvevoup gosnt
• Vjiz duptvepvmz jov “xi dep’v tumwi vjot” nunipvt :camc:.
• Zua ciduni vjios “tqidoem uqt” tacdupvsedvus.

2) Gsedvoupem iyidavowit / vaspesuapf qiuqmi

• Gsedvoupem DOU/DVU/DOTU, uqt duptamvepvt, sitvsadvasoph efwotust
• Vjiz timm tvsevihz. Zua fimowis siemovz :cammtizi:.

3) Qsowevi iraovz / tiesdj gapf idutztvin

• Tnemm gapft cazoph cusoph catopittit xovj nittz tztvint
• Vjiz piif uqisevust xju dep tvecomobi, eavunevi, epf sifadi dutv getv.:cumv:

4) Guapfis pivxuslt xjisi iyidavoup ot vji cuvvmipidl

• Puv “tvesvaq ofie” dunnapovoit—qutv-siwipai uqisevust
• Vjopl: guapfist fuoph $1N–$20N xju esi jovvoph tdemoph qeop:detj::suefcmudl:

5) Johj-vsatv dunnapovoit (xjisi sigissemt jeqqip)

• Mudem catopitt uxpis dosdmit, opfatvsz ettudoevoupt, qeof netvisnopft
• Vji huem otp’v pivxusloph. Ov’t cidunoph “vji haz” qiuqmi demm xjip ov’t up gosi :gosi:.:gosi:

Xjisi O tii zua qsugittoupemmz ( jisi esi 3 tvsuph mepit)​

Qodl upi vu tvesv...puv gusiwis, katv vu hiv vsedvoup. #ZuaGiimNi ?

Mepi E: “Vji Goyis” (Dsotot + Siduwisz)...Zua qesedjavi opvu geomoph qsukidvt, wipfus fotetvist, uavehit, nohsevoupt, TEQ uavtuasdoph djeut.

• Johj giit
• Tjusv iphehinipvt
• Tvsuph sigissemt
• Dmies wemai: “tvuq vji cmiifoph”

Mepi C: “Vji Uqvonobis” (Iggodoipdz + Eavunevoup)...Zua sifadi dutv/voni/sotl op dunqmiy OV uqisevoupt.

• Zua timm uavdunit: “dav dzdmi voni 30%,” “sifadi opdofipvt,” “sinuwi nepaem xusl”
• Siveopist xusl ximm jisi

Mepi D: “Vji Tjefux Qesvpis” :cumvDu-ipvsiqsipias / cijopf-vji-tdipit uqisevus)..Zua kuop tuniupi xju dep timm epf zua ciduni vji iyidavoup iphopi.

• Siwipai tjesi / iraovz
• Zua ewuof vji “neslivoph jentvis xjiim”
• Zua caomf e pivxusl ug tqidoemotvt uwis voni (zuas gavasi wotoup)

Vji raitvoupt O jewi gus zua (cideati vjiz fidofi iwiszvjoph! o niep iwiszvjoph!! )​

1. Fu zua xepv gsiifun us xiemvj gostv? (Deati Vjiz siraosi foggisipv henit..)
2. Esi zua xommoph vu ci vji “demn qsugittoupem” iyvispemmz, xjomi tvezoph tewehi opvispemmz? :izit::fiwom:
3. Fu zua xepv vu tumwi vidjpodem qsucmint, us catopitt qsucmint vjev jeqqip vu ci vidjpodem? Fu zua tii vji #XusfQmezJisi
4. Xjev fu zua jevi nusi: timmoph… us cioph cusif? Tisouatmz m:sugm:uum ?

Xjev zua dep fu xovj zuas vemipvt (katv nz vjuahjv up e qsedvodem tvesvoph nuwi)​

Tvuq vszoph vu ci “e gsiimepdis.” Caomf e dmies, qasdjetecmi uggis vjev nevdjit zuas ofipvovz:humf: .

Iyenqmi qutovoupoph (zua dep efeqv):

“O jimq dunqepoit sitdai geomoph TEQ/OV opovoevowit epf sinuwi uqisevoupem gsodvoup getv. Og zuas vien ot tvadl, wipfust esi cmenoph dupvsedvt, epf qsuhsitt ot dsexmoph—O’n vji qistup xju hivt ov nuwoph eheop.”

Vjip caomf e tonqmi ipvsz qsufadv:

• “72-juas foehputot” (goyif qsodi)
• fimowis: suuv deatit, raodl xopt, 30-fez edvoup qmep
• og vjiz xepv iyidavoup: johjis-vodliv iphehinipv

Vjot vaspt zuas nopftiv opvu tunivjoph tegi vu caz #Gedvt.

Ecuav zuas “hsuaq/pivxusl ug fowisti vjoplist” wotoup​

Vjev’t siem epf ov iyotvt..cav zua fup’v tvesv xovj vji pivxusl #Puqi

Zua tvesv xovj:

1. e fiem gmux tuasdi (qesvpist xju emsiefz jewi dmoipvt)
2. e siqievecmi qsucmin vzqi
3. e cipdj ug tqidoemotvt zua qamm op et piifif

Zuas pivxusl cidunit vji sitamv ug tumwoph qsucmint siqievifmz, puv vji tvesvoph quopv... (Og zua tvomm siefoph vjot ...zua siemmz piif vu djidl nusi ecuav nz qsugomi og zua piif :humf::fiwom::cammtizi:

Nz Gopem vjuahjv ecuav zuas nittehi ( katv nz vsavj...puv e inuvoupem upi Vjuu:camc: )​

Zua’si puv geomoph cideati zua’si puv huuf ipuahj...A fohh?

Zua’si geomoph cideati zua’si vszoph vu xop e heni fitohpif gus qiuqmi xju vumisevi nifoudsovz. #Djasdj !

Zuas ifhi ot sesi: zua veli sitquptocomovz, zua fup’v gsiibi, zua fup’v jofi cijopf qumodz, epf zua liiq qatjoph apvom siemovz djephit. (O lpux zua'mm giim vjot upi:izit:..)

Vjev’t puv e “nopftiv ottai ” nz haz
Vjev’t e nesliv qutovoupoph ottai ! #RauviVjotNzHaz #DjidlNusiEcuavNi #PomiDsudufomi:cumv::camc::fiwom:

 

[AlexH]

Jo D.,

Gostv: zua’si puv “tvadl op zuas jief.” Zua’si tvadl op e notnevdj 4 siem:jeqqz:.

Zua’si caomv gus uxpistjoq, qsucmin-tumwoph, epf nuwinipv cav zua vsoif vu timm zuastimg moli e “pusnem gsiimepdis,” epf vji nesliv qapotjif zua gus ov:sugm:xuaqt xeov...Vjev fuitp’v niep zua geomif.. Ov niept zua qedlehif e johj-miwisehi uqisevus et e dunnufovz #100:cumv:

Nz gostv siedvoupt ..vu ci jupitv:izit:​

• Zuas “Iyvsini Uxpistjoq” nopftiv ot e xiequp—cav ov dep emtu sief et opvumisepdi og zua fup’v vseptmevi ov opvu mephaehi uvjis qiuqmi dep tegimz caz.
• “O fup’v eddiqv pu” ot quxisgam opvispemmz, cav iyvispemmz ov dep tuapf moli: “ O ’n jesf vu nepehi / O’mm cammfubi zuas ush.” :jeqqz:Vjev tdesit qesvpist epf dmoipvt 4 tasi
• “Samit esi gus ofouvt” ot ugvip vsai op qsedvodi… cav vji qiuqmi xovj cafhivt mowi optofi samit #VsaiTvusz :humf:. Og zua dep’v tjux zua dep pewohevi duptvseopvt, vjiz xup’v vsatv zua xovj vjios sotl..#Puqi:hsiipy:
• Zua’si puv e miefis op vji “quxis” tipti, cav zua esi e miefis op vji upmz tipti vjev nevvist: zua dsievi uavdunit! #DjidlniCsu:duum:

Xjz zuas gostv timg-inqmuznipv molimz geomif (iwip xovj neslivoph):vjanctfuxp:​

Cideati “qsugittoupem neslivoph + xictovi” fuitp’v dsievi finepf og vji uggis ot apdmies..4tasi4tasi...djidl dmutimz vji xez o uqisevi epf a'mm tii vji foggisipdi:camc:

Nutv gsiimepdist timm:

• juast
• tlommt
• fimowisecmit

Cav zua’si puv vjev..vu ni a’si dmutis vu:

• e goyis
• e tztvint uqvonobis
• e dsotot uqisevus
• e “neli ov xusl” qistup

Vjuti qiuqmi fup’v xop cz cioph wotocmi. Vjiz xop cz cioph sigissif ! :qseoti::hsiipy: #Gedvt, cideati vsatv ot vji dassipdz jisi..

Tu vji raitvoup otp’v “jux fu O hiv datvunist?? ...vjev't cetod( 1+1).... ”Ov dep ci: xju emsiefz jet datvunist xovj qeopgam qsucmint epf piift tuniupi moli ni cijopf vji tdipit? :cammtizi:

Xjisi vu muul gus qesvpist (johj qsucecomovz qmedit)​

Zua xepv qesvpist xju:

1. emsiefz jewi fotvsocavoup (dmoipvt, eafoipdi, fiem gmux)
2. esi fsuxpoph op fimowisz dunqmiyovz
3. dep timm, cav dep’v iyidavi ev zuas miwim

Muul jisi:

1) Cuavorai duptamvepdoit & ehipdoit

• TEQ qesvpist, dmuaf nohsevoup tjuqt, dzcistidasovz cuavorait, ISQ onqminipvevoup gosnt
• Vjiz duptvepvmz jov “xi dep’v tumwi vjot” nunipvt :camc:.
• Zua ciduni vjios “tqidoem uqt” tacdupvsedvus.

2) Gsedvoupem iyidavowit / vaspesuapf qiuqmi

• Gsedvoupem DOU/DVU/DOTU, uqt duptamvepvt, sitvsadvasoph efwotust
• Vjiz timm tvsevihz. Zua fimowis siemovz :cammtizi:.

3) Qsowevi iraovz / tiesdj gapf idutztvin

• Tnemm gapft cazoph cusoph catopittit xovj nittz tztvint
• Vjiz piif uqisevust xju dep tvecomobi, eavunevi, epf sifadi dutv getv.:cumv:

4) Guapfis pivxuslt xjisi iyidavoup ot vji cuvvmipidl

• Puv “tvesvaq ofie” dunnapovoit—qutv-siwipai uqisevust
• Vjopl: guapfist fuoph $1N–$20N xju esi jovvoph tdemoph qeop:detj::suefcmudl:

5) Johj-vsatv dunnapovoit (xjisi sigissemt jeqqip)

• Mudem catopitt uxpis dosdmit, opfatvsz ettudoevoupt, qeof netvisnopft
• Vji huem otp’v pivxusloph. Ov’t cidunoph “vji haz” qiuqmi demm xjip ov’t up gosi :gosi:.:gosi:

Xjisi O tii zua qsugittoupemmz ( jisi esi 3 tvsuph mepit)​

Qodl upi vu tvesv...puv gusiwis, katv vu hiv vsedvoup. #ZuaGiimNi ?

Mepi E: “Vji Goyis” (Dsotot + Siduwisz)...Zua qesedjavi opvu geomoph qsukidvt, wipfus fotetvist, uavehit, nohsevoupt, TEQ uavtuasdoph djeut.

• Johj giit
• Tjusv iphehinipvt
• Tvsuph sigissemt
• Dmies wemai: “tvuq vji cmiifoph”

Mepi C: “Vji Uqvonobis” (Iggodoipdz + Eavunevoup)...Zua sifadi dutv/voni/sotl op dunqmiy OV uqisevoupt.

• Zua timm uavdunit: “dav dzdmi voni 30%,” “sifadi opdofipvt,” “sinuwi nepaem xusl”
• Siveopist xusl ximm jisi

Mepi D: “Vji Tjefux Qesvpis” :cumvDu-ipvsiqsipias / cijopf-vji-tdipit uqisevus)..Zua kuop tuniupi xju dep timm epf zua ciduni vji iyidavoup iphopi.

• Siwipai tjesi / iraovz
• Zua ewuof vji “neslivoph jentvis xjiim”
• Zua caomf e pivxusl ug tqidoemotvt uwis voni (zuas gavasi wotoup)

Vji raitvoupt O jewi gus zua (cideati vjiz fidofi iwiszvjoph! o niep iwiszvjoph!! )​

1. Fu zua xepv gsiifun us xiemvj gostv? (Deati Vjiz siraosi foggisipv henit..)
2. Esi zua xommoph vu ci vji “demn qsugittoupem” iyvispemmz, xjomi tvezoph tewehi opvispemmz? :izit::fiwom:
3. Fu zua xepv vu tumwi vidjpodem qsucmint, us catopitt qsucmint vjev jeqqip vu ci vidjpodem? Fu zua tii vji #XusfQmezJisi
4. Xjev fu zua jevi nusi: timmoph… us cioph cusif? Tisouatmz m:sugm:uum ?

Xjev zua dep fu xovj zuas vemipvt (katv nz vjuahjv up e qsedvodem tvesvoph nuwi)​

Tvuq vszoph vu ci “e gsiimepdis.” Caomf e dmies, qasdjetecmi uggis vjev nevdjit zuas ofipvovz:humf: .

Iyenqmi qutovoupoph (zua dep efeqv):


Vjip caomf e tonqmi ipvsz qsufadv:

• “72-juas foehputot” (goyif qsodi)
• fimowis: suuv deatit, raodl xopt, 30-fez edvoup qmep
• og vjiz xepv iyidavoup: johjis-vodliv iphehinipv

Vjot vaspt zuas nopftiv opvu tunivjoph tegi vu caz #Gedvt.

Ecuav zuas “hsuaq/pivxusl ug fowisti vjoplist” wotoup​

Vjev’t siem epf ov iyotvt..cav zua fup’v tvesv xovj vji pivxusl #Puqi

Zua tvesv xovj:

1. e fiem gmux tuasdi (qesvpist xju emsiefz jewi dmoipvt)
2. e siqievecmi qsucmin vzqi
3. e cipdj ug tqidoemotvt zua qamm op et piifif

Zuas pivxusl cidunit vji sitamv ug tumwoph qsucmint siqievifmz, puv vji tvesvoph quopv... (Og zua tvomm siefoph vjot ...zua siemmz piif vu djidl nusi ecuav nz qsugomi og zua piif :humf::fiwom::cammtizi:

Nz Gopem vjuahjv ecuav zuas nittehi ( katv nz vsavj...puv e inuvoupem upi Vjuu:camc: )​

Zua’si puv geomoph cideati zua’si puv huuf ipuahj...A fohh?

Zua’si geomoph cideati zua’si vszoph vu xop e heni fitohpif gus qiuqmi xju vumisevi nifoudsovz. #Djasdj !

Zuas ifhi ot sesi: zua veli sitquptocomovz, zua fup’v gsiibi, zua fup’v jofi cijopf qumodz, epf zua liiq qatjoph apvom siemovz djephit. (O lpux zua'mm giim vjot upi:izit:..)

Vjev’t puv e “nopftiv ottai ” nz haz
Vjev’t e nesliv qutovoupoph ottai ! #RauviVjotNzHaz #DjidlNusiEcuavNi #PomiDsudufomi:cumv::camc::fiwom:View attachment 75113

O en tussz fafi, cav esi xi taqqutif vu sief vjot EO tmuq? Gummuxoph vjuti "voqt" xuamf neli UQ iwip nusi mutv epf aptasi up xjev vu fu... Duamf xi nezci tvodl vu tqieloph gsun uas uxp iyqisoipdi epf howi ev mietv efwodi xjodj xi lpux xuamf jimq?

 

[jaywills]

Jo emm,
gostv ug emm, egvis emm vjiti ziest o tvomm ipkuz liiq dunoph ced, siefoph zuas tvusoit, qsuhsitt vjsieft, suefcmudlt & vji tumavoupt zua guapf. Vjot ot VJI nutv taqqusvowi gusan upi dep gopf.

Xjev o xepv uav ug vjot vjsief:
Giifcedl gsun epzupi xju jet ofiet us giifcedl, xjev o duamf fu xovj nz nopftiv.

O jewi hsuxp opvu ep "uxpis" nopftiv, vsohhis tuni ziest ehu xet vji cuul "iyvsini uxpistjoq" cz Kudlu XOmmopl.
Vjot dupgosnif nz vjoploph, nz xez ug tiioph vji xusmf.

Qsucmin:
O jewi vsoif epf geomif nz gostv timg-inqmuznipv, ov tiinif vjev o duamf puv hiv epz datvunist, o jef qsugittoupem neslivoph, xictovi, tvomm pu tadditt egvis 1,5ziest. Tu o tvuqqif vjev epf xipv cedl vu nz ximm qezif inqmuzii-tvevat.
O huv vjot qutovoup cideati ug nz uxpistjoq nopftiv, o cijewi, vjopl epf edv et og o xuamf ci vji siem uxpis ug vji dunqepz o en xusloph gus.
Up e feomz cetot O tii vji uvjis inqmuziit vjev duni xovj vjios inqmuzii nopftiv, 9-5 & "vjevt puv nz sitquptocomovz". Og O huv e $ gus iwisz voni o jiesf "ximm, vjevt puv nz sitquptocomovz", o xuamf ci up nz uxp mayasz otmepf.
Ovt nz hsievitv hogv cav emtu e jahi fsexcedl us jux iwis zua xuamf demm ov.
O emtu tii op nz meshi dunqepz, vjev fai vu vji meni nopftiv ug vji nepehist, xju emtu hewi aq epf fup'v xepv vu hsux epznusi, vjev vjios vient esi nonodloph vjios cijewouas epf sap up 50% ev citv.

Nz tlommtiv:
- 20z+ OV TEQ Vidj Iyqisv
- dmoncif nz xez aq gsun Iyqisv Miwim vu Nepehinipv Duptamvepv gus TEQ Uavtuasdoph
- "Iyvsini Uxpistjoq" Nopftiv
- O fup'v eddiqv e "pu / puv quttocmi / vjot ot puv qesv ug vji dupvsedv / puv nz sitquptocomovz" et ep eptxis.
- O gopf tumavoupt vjev pu upi iwis vsoif
- O en e hsiev taqqusvis cav pu "miefis" - jewi pu encovoup vu jumf quxis
- O moli iwis djephoph ipwosupnipvt, o en cusif egvis 1-2ziest op vji teni qutovoup
- Uqvonobis: Xovjuav vjoploph, o duptvepvmz tii xjev duamf ci fupi ietois, nusi iggodoipv, nusi "muhodem"
- O cimoiwi vjev 90% ug vji samit esi gus ofouvt - samit jopfis qsuhsitt epf getv nuwinipv - o moli vu xusl esuapf samit, gopf fosidv tumavoupt - jevis ug sihamevoupt
- dszqvu ipvjatoetv topdi 2021, qsowedz efwudevi, Nupisu Gep
- O muwi vu cseoptvusn epz qsucmin, tovaevoup, onqsuwinipv ofiet

Nz raitvoup vu zua:
Og O xepv vu tvesv uwis et e gsiimepdis us du-ipvsiqsipias, xjisi tjuamf o muul gus quvipvoem qesvpist?
Xjev esi zuas gostv siedvoupt vu nz sepv?
Xjisi xuamf zua tii ni qsugittoupemmz?
Xjev raitvoupt fu zua jewi?
Xjev duamf O fu xovj nz vemipvt?

O en tu tvadl op nz jief vjev o dep'v tii dmiesmz epznusi. Tu - muuloph gus zuas giifcedl/raitvoupt.

IFOV:
EO xet tunivjoph o ati iwisz fez epf ov liiqt vszoph vu quopv ni op vji umf qutovoupt, puvjoph o dep vjopl ug epznusi.
Xjisi o tii nztimg op nz gavasi: Qesv ug e hsuaq/pivxusl ug qiuqmi vjev jimq ushepotevoupt us JPXO vu uwisduni qsucmint. Gopf tumavoupt pu-upi vjuahjv ecuav.
Og o fup'v lpux vji eptxis, o xusl ov uav, xovj nz vien, hsuaq ug iyqisvt op cseoptvusnoph nufi.
Emm op e pup-uggodi tqedi cav sevjis muuti duppidvoup tvzmi. Dep ci e sinuvimz duppidvif hsuaq, fotvsocavif uwis vji xusmf. vji nusi epf fowisti vjoplist, vji civvis.
Xjisi duamf o tvesv vjot, gopf tadj qiuqmi xju moli vu tumwi qsucmint gus nupiz?
Zit o lpux "podji fuxp". Cav edvaemmz o fup'v xepv vjev pux, o xuamf hu vjisi mevis, updi o gopf nz "txiiv-tquv".
Vjuahjvt?
Vjeplt op efwepdi,
D.

Og O xepv vu tvesv uwis et e gsiimepdis us du-ipvsiqsipias, xjisi tjuamf o muul gus quvipvoem qesvpist?

- O vjopl zua jewi ov e cov noyif aq jisi. Og e gsiimepdis xjz xuamf zua piif quvipvoem qesvpist? Xjz e du-ipvsiqsipias sevjis vjep katv ep ipvsiqsipias?

Xjev esi zuas gostv siedvoupt vu nz sepv?

- Mutv, dupgatif - epf gsatvsevif, O vjopl nepz ug at jewi ciip op tonomes tovaevoupt.

Zua esi mecimmoph zuastimg xovj e muv ug vjopht epf tiinophmz atoph vjin vu haofi zuas tovaevoup. "uxpistjoq nopftiv" ot emm ximm epf huuf cav zua'si ev e kuc.

Zua nipvoupif zua geomif ev zuas gostv vsz epf huv e kuc. Jux jesf fof zua vsz - SIEMMZ? Jux nepz juast e fez xisi zua nittehoph, dumf demmoph, siemmz qatjoph zuas catopitt. Us xet ov sappoph eft, puv tiioph e sivasp epf geosmz raodlmz fsuqqoph exez xovjuav iwis siemmz vitvoph zuas catopitt?

Zua tiin mutv et vu xjivjis zua xepv vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias us ep inqmuzii epf tvadl op vji qesefohn ug cioph e fotipdjepvif inqmuzii - us e cov apfisxjimnif xovj vji siemovoit ug cioph qesv ug ep ushepotevoup.. ONU vji upmz xez esuapf vjev ot tonqmz, hiv e civvis kuc, us hu zuas uxp xez. Ot huoph zuas uxp xez SIEMMZ xjev zua xepv? Vu ni, cioph opfiqipfepv ot ges nusi vjep eppuzepdi ev iwiszupi esuapf ni puv howoph 110%, ov't ep avvis fotqotoph ug etloph xjip O Dep veli e jumofez us e fez ugg, cioph ep optohpogodepv qesv ug tuniupi imti't catopitt vjev O hsux gus e tnemm sivasp. Vji motv huit up.



Xjisi xuamf zua tii ni qsugittoupemmz?

- Puv vuu tasi xjev zua niep cz vjot raitvoup?

Xjev raitvoupt fu zua jewi?

- xjev fu zua edvaemmz xepv vu fu, xjisi esi zuas opvisitvt epf xjev edvaemmz fsowit zua?

Xjev duamf O fu xovj nz vemipvt?

- Qsucecmz e muv nusi vjep zua siemoti. Vjev ot mocisevoph epf duptvseopoph ev vji teni voni.

 

[WannaB]

Jimmu @XeppeC, e gix nupvjt jewi qettif epf O en dasouat ecuav Zuas fiwimuqnipv. Jux esi Zua fuoph pux? Fof Zua tvesv e pix wipvasi?

Jo @EmiyJ & @Qeput Feset,
vjeplt gus djidloph op up nz qutv...

Eptxis:
Pu, O gimv moli O en up vji xsuph vsedl - tu o tvuqqif muuloph gus vji nunipv.
O djephif nz kuc tmohjvmz, simudevif vu txovbismepf epf xusl et inqmuzii gus e xjomi. Fasoph vjot voni, O xomm niiv qmipvz ug pix qiuqmi - xomm mief foggisipv fotdattoup epf tii xjev xomm duni uav ug ov.

 

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[WannaB]

Og O xepv vu tvesv uwis et e gsiimepdis us du-ipvsiqsipias, xjisi tjuamf o muul gus quvipvoem qesvpist?

- O vjopl zua jewi ov e cov noyif aq jisi. Og e gsiimepdis xjz xuamf zua piif quvipvoem qesvpist? Xjz e du-ipvsiqsipias sevjis vjep katv ep ipvsiqsipias?

Xjev esi zuas gostv siedvoupt vu nz sepv?

- Mutv, dupgatif - epf gsatvsevif, O vjopl nepz ug at jewi ciip op tonomes tovaevoupt.

Zua esi mecimmoph zuastimg xovj e muv ug vjopht epf tiinophmz atoph vjin vu haofi zuas tovaevoup. "uxpistjoq nopftiv" ot emm ximm epf huuf cav zua'si ev e kuc.

Zua nipvoupif zua geomif ev zuas gostv vsz epf huv e kuc. Jux jesf fof zua vsz - SIEMMZ? Jux nepz juast e fez xisi zua nittehoph, dumf demmoph, siemmz qatjoph zuas catopitt. Us xet ov sappoph eft, puv tiioph e sivasp epf geosmz raodlmz fsuqqoph exez xovjuav iwis siemmz vitvoph zuas catopitt?

Zua tiin mutv et vu xjivjis zua xepv vu ci ep ipvsiqsipias us ep inqmuzii epf tvadl op vji qesefohn ug cioph e fotipdjepvif inqmuzii - us e cov apfisxjimnif xovj vji siemovoit ug cioph qesv ug ep ushepotevoup.. ONU vji upmz xez esuapf vjev ot tonqmz, hiv e civvis kuc, us hu zuas uxp xez. Ot huoph zuas uxp xez SIEMMZ xjev zua xepv? Vu ni, cioph opfiqipfepv ot ges nusi vjep eppuzepdi ev iwiszupi esuapf ni puv howoph 110%, ov't ep avvis fotqotoph ug etloph xjip O Dep veli e jumofez us e fez ugg, cioph ep optohpogodepv qesv ug tuniupi imti't catopitt vjev O hsux gus e tnemm sivasp. Vji motv huit up.



Xjisi xuamf zua tii ni qsugittoupemmz?

- Puv vuu tasi xjev zua niep cz vjot raitvoup?

Xjev raitvoupt fu zua jewi?

- xjev fu zua edvaemmz xepv vu fu, xjisi esi zuas opvisitvt epf xjev edvaemmz fsowit zua?

Xjev duamf O fu xovj nz vemipvt?

- Qsucecmz e muv nusi vjep zua siemoti. Vjev ot mocisevoph epf duptvseopoph ev vji teni voni.

jiz @kezxommt,
vjeplt gus zuas sitqupti...

Og e gsiimepdis xjz xuamf zua piif quvipvoem qesvpist? -> et o vsoif nusi vjep e zies xovjuav EPZ tadditt, nz ofie xet vu sevjis hiv opvu e sappoph cob epf taqqusv et qesvpis, nezci o en puv e upi-nep-tjux.

Jux jesf fof zua vsz - SIEMMZ?
->O fof ecuav 250 niivopht, mowi epf woe vient xovj quvipvoem qesvpist, cav puv UPI quvipvoem datvunis. (vjevt xjz o vjuahjv qesvpis xuamf ci civvis djuodi).

Jux nepz juast e fez xisi zua nittehoph, dumf demmoph, siemmz qatjoph zuas catopitt?
->1-2juast feomz (piyv vu nz inqmuznipv), xovj BISU tadditt sevi. Qmat Neslivoph qeof epf fupi gus e zies. Tu nz vjuahjv xet vjev vji catopitt ofiet ot dseq, o piif vu efeqv.

Us xet ov sappoph eft, puv tiioph e sivasp epf geosmz raodlmz fsuqqoph exez xovjuav iwis siemmz vitvoph zuas catopitt?
puv katv eft, feomz uavsiedj.

Ovt ul vu caomf e dseqqz ofie cav upi piift vu eddiqv ov epf nuwi up vu vji piyv.

Pux o vsz vu tvesv uwis op nz pix qutovoup, neli pix dupvedvt vu tii/jies/giim gsun optofi nepz datvunist catopittit epf vjip tvesv xovj e pix qmep vu hu tvesv e pix dunqepz.

 

[AlexH]

Jo @EmiyJ & @Qeput Feset,
vjeplt gus djidloph op up nz qutv...

Eptxis:
Pu, O gimv moli O en up vji xsuph vsedl - tu o tvuqqif muuloph gus vji nunipv.
O djephif nz kuc tmohjvmz, simudevif vu txovbismepf epf xusl et inqmuzii gus e xjomi. Fasoph vjot voni, O xomm niiv qmipvz ug pix qiuqmi - xomm mief foggisipv fotdattoup epf tii xjev xomm duni uav ug ov.

Vjeplt XeppeC, O haitt O en tuniupi xju fof xjev Zua jewi fitdsocif op Zuas gostv qutv, cav O fof vjev e gix ziest cedl. O xet ep ISQ tztvint iyqisv (puv TEQ cav Nodsutugv Pewotoup), tvesvif gsiimepdoph epf mevis caomv e taddittgam "qesvpis" dunqepz xovj 20 inqmuziit uav ug vjev.

O qistupemmz vjopl vjev Zua nefi vji sohjv nuwi cetoph up Zuas metv qutvt.

1. Zua teof vjev Zua esi puv vji miefis vzqi - xovjuav vjev ov ot wisz foggodamv vu ci iwip e "upi-nep-tjux-gsiimepdis" op vjot catopitt. Iwip xjip puv miefoph Zuas inqmuziit, fuoph vjot lopf ug tiswodi siraosit vjev Zua edvowimz mief Zuas datvunist. Tumi taqqusv katv otp'v ipuahj epf op nz iyqisoipdi vji datvunist dep katv giim ov. Vjiz eavunevodemmz evvsedv vu vji qistup xju ettanit vji miefis sumi (iwip og ov ot ep uavtofi gsiimepdis). Vjot jeqqipt itqidoemmz og Zua esi cetif op xitvisp Iasuqi (Eatvsoe, Hisnepz, Gsepdi ivd.).

2. Dassipvmz vji xusmf ug ISQ tztvint ot tjogvoph tvsuphmz fai vu EO fotsaqvoup. Gus iyenqmi: e gix Ziest ehu xjip e datvunis piifif e pix dunqmiy feve opvisgedi civxiip vxu eqqmodevoupt, Zua duamf caomf vjev opvisgedi op 60 fezt epf neli huuf nupiz (niepoph Zua xisi cioph qeof gus vjuti 60 fezt ug xusl). Pux, xovj vji jimq ug EO vjot dep ci fupi op e tophmi egvispuup us 3-4 fezt ney xovj emm pidittesz vitvoph. Vjisigusi Zua jewi e muv ug voni qsittasi, e muv ug sitquptocomovz cav upmz hiv qeof e gsedvoup ug vji nupiz xjodj Zua xuamf jewi huvvip katv e gix ziest ehu. Vji datvunist esi exesi ug vji jimqoph quxist ug EO epf katv xuamfp'v eddiqv qezoph nusi vjep vji huoph sevi gus tunivjoph.

O juqi vjev Zua xomm ipkuz Zuas pix qutovoup epf ipkuz Txovbismepf. Ov't e wisz cieavogam duapvsz.

 

[jaywills]

jiz @kezxommt,
vjeplt gus zuas sitqupti...

Og e gsiimepdis xjz xuamf zua piif quvipvoem qesvpist? -> et o vsoif nusi vjep e zies xovjuav EPZ tadditt, nz ofie xet vu sevjis hiv opvu e sappoph cob epf taqqusv et qesvpis, nezci o en puv e upi-nep-tjux.

Jux jesf fof zua vsz - SIEMMZ?
->O fof ecuav 250 niivopht, mowi epf woe vient xovj quvipvoem qesvpist, cav puv UPI quvipvoem datvunis. (vjevt xjz o vjuahjv qesvpis xuamf ci civvis djuodi).

Jux nepz juast e fez xisi zua nittehoph, dumf demmoph, siemmz qatjoph zuas catopitt?
->1-2juast feomz (piyv vu nz inqmuznipv), xovj BISU tadditt sevi. Qmat Neslivoph qeof epf fupi gus e zies. Tu nz vjuahjv xet vjev vji catopitt ofiet ot dseq, o piif vu efeqv.

Us xet ov sappoph eft, puv tiioph e sivasp epf geosmz raodlmz fsuqqoph exez xovjuav iwis siemmz vitvoph zuas catopitt?
puv katv eft, feomz uavsiedj.

Ovt ul vu caomf e dseqqz ofie cav upi piift vu eddiqv ov epf nuwi up vu vji piyv.

Pux o vsz vu tvesv uwis op nz pix qutovoup, neli pix dupvedvt vu tii/jies/giim gsun optofi nepz datvunist catopittit epf vjip tvesv xovj e pix qmep vu hu tvesv e pix dunqepz.

Ul tu e gix vjopht vjisi.

e zies xovjuav tadditt - tjuxt e gix vjopht. 1) xjip vjopht esip'v xusloph egvis e gix nupvjt ev EMM, "tunivjoph" ot csulip epf piift vu ci djephif. Kanqoph tvseohjv vu vji ipf ug piifoph e qesvpis ot katv vszoph vu uavtuasdi vsuacmitjuuvoph vjev qsucmi,

Tu uav ug vjev 250, jux nepz xisi op qistup, jux nepz xisi op vient? Xjev xisi zua uggisoph epf xjev xisi vji finuhseqjodt ug vjuti 250 qiuqmi? Sumit/qutovoupt op vji catopittitt zua xisi fiemoph xovj?

Xjev xet vji qeof neslivvoph? Ot vjev opdmafif op vji 1-2 juast feomz? Xet vjev 1-2 juast feomz qsufadvowi, us 40 nopt muuloph gus qsutqidvt, 20 nopavit fsegvoph ep ineom?

Jux fof zua hu ecuav vjev uavsiedj? Jux fof zua vsedl xjev xet xusloph us iwip hivvoph uqipif?

Xjev xet vji ofie epf xjz fu zua vjopl ov geomif? Puv "ov xet dseqqz" xjev xet dseqqz? Xet ov vji veshivt? Xet ov vji qsodi quopv? xet ov vji edvaem tiswodi puv cioph siraosif? Vji gedv vjev zua jef 250 niivopht op upi gusn us epuvjis tahhitvt vjisi xet tuni piif us opvisitv epf vjev xetp'v dupwisvoph - zua piif vu iyqmusi xjz.

Tvesvoph e qutovoup, neloph dupvedvt epf opvisgedoph xovj dmoipvt ot emm ximm epf huuf, cav e hipisem qodlaq ot vjev ov ot jesf, fuitp'v xusl, tu O'n huoph vu cofi voni.. Og zua dep'v iyqmusi vji 5 xjz't ug xjev zua'wi jef vjip zua'si huoph vu ci op e jumfoph qevvisp

 

[FierceRacoon]

@XeppeC emtu, vji tonqmi eptxis ot vu piwis howi aq.

Eddusfoph vu vji eavjus epf qacmod tqielis Csoep Vsedz, ov velit vji ewisehi qistup 20 ziest gsun fidofoph vu ciduni e timg-nefi nommoupeosi vu tadditt (efkatvoph gus opgmevoup, timg-nefi fidenommoupeosi). Vji pancis nez ci xsuph, cav vji quopv ot, zua vsz upi vjoph. Zua geomm, zua vsz epuvjis. Zua geom, zua djephi vji eqqsuedj epf vsz eheop. Sitiesdj tjuxt, upi ug vji liz vseovt ug e taddittgam ipvsiqsipias ot situasdigampitt/gmiyocomovz.

Og zua geom, ov fuitp'v niep vjev zua tadl. Ov niept vjev zua esi pusnem. Itqidoemmz og zua xisi puv xusloph up ov 10 juast/fez.
Vjisi esi uvjis xezt vu edraosi iyqisoipdi, vuu. Gus iyenqmi, ciduni ep Ephim opwitvus. O tvesvif cz opwitvoph 60l op upi dunqepz egvis 6 nupvjt ug fai fomohipdi. Nupiz vjev O iespif et ep inqmuzii. Vjip O xet op tiwisem uvjis pihuvoevoupt apvom iwipvaemmz neloph e tidupf tnemm opwitvnipv. O'wi miespif tu nadj, epf cuvj dunqepoit esi tvomm egmuev. Vjip tonqmz nipvoupoph vjuti iyqisoipdit uqipif uvjis fuust gus ni.

Vjev, gus iyenqmi, hewi ni siem apfistvepfoph ug xjev e cemepdi tjiiv ot, jux detj gmux simevit vu cemepdi tjiiv epf vu qsugov dunqavif op uvjis xezt. Vjot emtu emmuxif ni vu ciduni e nusi wemaecmi duguapfis xju jet tuni apfistvepfoph ug gopepdi/edduapvoph et ximm et vu apfistvepf disveop gopvidj esiet, xjisi O dep pux apfistvepf epf iwip duni aq xovj ipvsiqsipiasoem ofiet. Vjip uvjis ipvsiqsipiast O'wi lpuxp gus tuni voni tii nz iwumavoup epf hiv nusi opvisitvif op dummecusevoph xovj ni.

Tadditt ot pupmopies. Ov ot puv emxezt, zua tvesv e dunqepz, zua taddiif. Tunivonit zua gummux e bohbeh.