I'm loosing passion for my goals (WARNING: there are swear words!)

[Christopher104]

Look, I get it. Anything great and worth accomplishing isn't going to happen overnight and without having to move a couple of mountains.

But the problem is this:

I don't feel like I'm accomplishing anything when I learn new material. Which is strange because I USED to. The idea was very exhilarating and I felt like a genius when I learned how to code html tags. The more I learned the more motivated I was to keep going.

However, somewhere along the lines that feeling slowly declined and now I don't feel anything except frustration and relief when I learn a new concept. Learning how to code has turned from this exciting and fun task into a chore that I have to deal with everyday (like a job).

Other programmers have called this "the desert of despair".

The first thing I tried doing was telling myself over and over again the positives of learning code and the negatives of not doing it.

Positive's: "Don't you want to travel the world? Don't you want the freedom to drive fast cars? Don't you want to stop saying 'I cant afford it'? Don't you want to not have to answer to a boss every day?"

negative's: "Do you really want to stay poor for the rest of your life? do you really want to waste you time to make someone else richer? etc.."

That method didn't work, so I tried telling myself:

"Would you stop being a little pussy-a$$ bitch and just do it? Like seriously dude, come on. You're being a work avoidant little boy. Be a man and just F*cking do what has to be done."
This actually worked for a while. It sparked my emotions and put a fire under my a$$. But it didn't change the fact that learning how to code was frustrating. The stress of the work eventually overpowered me and I burned out.

So the question remains:
What will make learning not feel like "Work"?
And if that isn't possible, what can change my perspective to look at the work as something to pursue endlessly?

Any advice helps, thanks guys

 

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[Fox]

Sounds like a lot of learning and no doing.

What are you doing with your coding skills?

 

[Stargazer]

Why are you making yourself learn code if you have no interest in it?

Dan

 

[Christopher104]

Sounds like a lot of learning and no doing.

What are you doing with your coding skills?

as of right now I'm trying to make a landing page for a website based on animals. I went to other animal websites to see what works and what doesn't.

Could I be trying to many advanced things too soon?

 

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[Christopher104]

Why are you making yourself learn code if you have no interest in it?

Dan

because doing what you love rarely will make you wealthy as the millionaire Fastlane has stated.

I really like playing video games and exercising but nobody is going to pay me millions to do those things.

 

[Stargazer]

because doing what you love rarely will make you wealthy as the millionaire Fastlane has stated.

I really like playing video games and exercising but nobody is going to pay me millions to do those things.

Right.

But doing something you don't like doesn't make sense either does it?

So the coding is not for a future in coding exactly but merely because you want a landing page. Your proposed business is the animal service/product and getting this up and running asap should be the priority.

Fox has some sort of web school that must have dozens or hundreds (I have no idea) of people who can make you a landing page as a first project to get under their belts for a portfolio.

Have you thought about that?

Dan

 

[Christopher104]

Right.

But doing something you don't like doesn't make sense either does it?

So the coding is not for a future in coding exactly but merely because you want a landing page. Your proposed business is the animal service/product and getting this up and running asap should be the priority.

Fox has some sort of web school that must have dozens or hundreds (I have no idea) of people who can make you a landing page as a first project to get under their belts for a portfolio.

Have you thought about that?

Dan

Yes I have, but the landing page is just a small peice of something bigger.

That pet website is to get practice as an entrepreneur and a web developer. When I started coding I loved every part of it. But the challenges have gotten bigger and more ambitious as of lately. They take more time to learn and memorize... wait.

You just helped me realize what the problem is. I only liked it in the beginning because it was easy. Now that it's more difficult than before, I get alot more mental resistance to keep going.

When I use code I already learned, it's super enjoyable and fun for me to build web pages.

So of course I love coding when i already know how to do it. Its having to sit down and study hard subjects that i find so difficult. Maybe I can look up tutorials on how to properly learn new skills or subjects...

 

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[Stargazer]

Perhaps there is an online coding course that is recommended?

Usually courses, like school, will be structured in a logical sequence.

You didn't learn what an adjective was before a noun for example or adding to 10 before counting to 10.

Each next step is quite easy if you fully understood the step that builds the foundation for it.

You may know steps 1,2 and 3 and a Landing Page might be step 6. (As an example)

You searching online and watching how to do step 6 won't necessarily stick in your head, not because it is hard but because steps 4 and 5 were not completed by you and you don't know there is a step 4 and 5.

Does that make sense?

Dan

 

[Fox]

as of right now I'm trying to make a landing page for a website based on animals. I went to other animal websites to see what works and what doesn't.

Could I be trying to many advanced things too soon?

I should have added more detail.

Learning for learnings sake is not going to continue to be rewarding now that you are at a certain level.

Get out there and take tons of action, get some failures, get some wins, and move towards your goals.

I think you just maxed out the learning for now - go put it all into action and leave any more educational content for a bit.

 

[Hai]

Look, I get it. Anything great and worth accomplishing isn't going to happen overnight and without having to move a couple of mountains.

But the problem is this:

I don't feel like I'm accomplishing anything when I learn new material. Which is strange because I USED to. The idea was very exhilarating and I felt like a genius when I learned how to code html tags. The more I learned the more motivated I was to keep going.

However, somewhere along the lines that feeling slowly declined and now I don't feel anything except frustration and relief when I learn a new concept. Learning how to code has turned from this exciting and fun task into a chore that I have to deal with everyday (like a job).

Other programmers have called this "the desert of despair".

The first thing I tried doing was telling myself over and over again the positives of learning code and the negatives of not doing it.

Positive's: "Don't you want to travel the world? Don't you want the freedom to drive fast cars? Don't you want to stop saying 'I cant afford it'? Don't you want to not have to answer to a boss every day?"

negative's: "Do you really want to stay poor for the rest of your life? do you really want to waste you time to make someone else richer? etc.."

That method didn't work, so I tried telling myself:

"Would you stop being a little pussy-a$$ bitch and just do it? Like seriously dude, come on. You're being a work avoidant little boy. Be a man and just f*cking do what has to be done."
This actually worked for a while. It sparked my emotions and put a fire under my a$$. But it didn't change the fact that learning how to code was frustrating. The stress of the work eventually overpowered me and I burned out.

So the question remains:
What will make learning not feel like "Work"?
And if that isn't possible, what can change my perspective to look at the work as something to pursue endlessly?

Any advice helps, thanks guys

You need revenue first, as fast as possible, and with sustainability. Everything you do should be targeted towards that goal.

Forget CENTS if you don't have that first.

This video might help.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_58zPgArb4&ab_channel=MJDeMarco

 

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[Christopher104]

Perhaps there is an online coding course that is recommended?

Usually courses, like school, will be structured in a logical sequence.

You didn't learn what an adjective was before a noun for example or adding to 10 before counting to 10.

Each next step is quite easy if you fully understood the step that builds the foundation for it.

You may know steps 1,2 and 3 and a Landing Page might be step 6. (As an example)

You searching online and watching how to do step 6 won't necessarily stick in your head, not because it is hard but because steps 4 and 5 were not completed by you and you don't know there is a step 4 and 5.

Does that make sense?

Dan

Yeah cherry-picking information mayyy have been one of my mistakes

This does make sense though. I'm sure many free courses online exist on what I'm doing.

Well I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out, man. Thank you!

 

[sparechange]

I might be wrong, but imo I'd rather pay someone to do something for me with mastery rather than learn it myself.

That's the beautiful thing about entrepreneurship, hiring people that are smarter and better than you at x or y. Money is replaceable, time however is not.

 

[Branko]

I struggle with patience for the process a lot as well. I started coding earlier this year.

Make sure to have a solid, verified roadmap that you understand. There is always a road map, a process of knowledge and skill aquisition, that will get you up to working/productions speed in the desired field.

Have a distant vision for where you want your skills to be and what you want to be able to do with them in a couple years time, and then learn about what knowledge is missing in your head, before you are "there".

Find a road map, write it out, then tackle one subject at a time. Don't disregard fundamentals. From my experience an expert is somebody, who is really good and efficient at all the fundementals. Imagine a professional chef chopping vegetables... Imagine the speed, control and elegance of motion, of what is infact a very simple basic task. That's why he is an expert chef, because he is a master of the fundementals.

Also, prioritize and always be willing to take a step back and assess the situation, think about the 80/20 rule. Learn all the parts of subject, just so you know what they are when you encounter them, but do ty to focus on the 20-30% of the most used, most useful functions, techniques and methods, that will allow you to get the 80% of results. The other 20% of polish, takes aaaaalot of time, time that none of us can afford to waste.

Also until you're not making money, don't try to make thing perfect, start a project, get it to a respecable level of function, design, etc... Learn what you have to learn, then ditch it! Move on to the new challenge, that will propel your skills forward. Don't keep doing the same thing. Challenge your self progressively.

 

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[Christopher104]

I struggle with patience for the process a lot as well. I started coding earlier this year.

Make sure to have a solid, verified roadmap that you understand. There is always a road map, a process of knowledge and skill aquisition, that will get you up to working/productions speed in the desired field.

Have a distant vision for where you want your skills to be and what you want to be able to do with them in a couple years time, and then learn about what knowledge is missing in your head, before you are "there".

Find a road map, write it out, then tackle one subject at a time. Don't disregard fundamentals. From my experience an expert is somebody, who is really good and efficient at all the fundementals. Imagine a professional chef chopping vegetables... Imagine the speed, control and elegance of motion, of what is infact a very simple basic task. That's why he is an expert chef, because he is a master of the fundementals.

Also, prioritize and always be willing to take a step back and assess the situation, think about the 80/20 rule. Learn all the parts of subject, just so you know what they are when you encounter them, but do ty to focus on the 20-30% of the most used, most useful functions, techniques and methods, that will allow you to get the 80% of results. The other 20% of polish, takes aaaaalot of time, time that none of us can afford to waste.

Also until you're not making money, don't try to make thing perfect, start a project, get it to a respecable level of function, design, etc... Learn what you have to learn, then ditch it! Move on to the new challenge, that will propel your skills forward. Don't keep doing the same thing. Challenge your self progressively.

appreciate the reply friend, but how did you find this? It was posted 2 months back I thought it drowned in the other forums by now...

 

[Branko]

appreciate the reply friend, but how did you find this? It was posted 2 months back I thought it drowned in the other forums by now...

The internet is forever

Anyways, now you have an opportunity to reflect and compare where you are now and where you were then.

So how is it going? Any new progress and achievements?

 

[Christopher104]

The internet is forever

Anyways, now you have an opportunity to reflect and compare where you are now and where you were then.

So how is it going? Any new progress and achievements?

Thank you for asking, it means a lot to me. And there's also a story to un-pack with that question.

Where I was:
The problem was my short sightedness and laziness. The first three months were strong because of the honeymoon phase of a new idea. That was the "excitement" I was talking about when I posted this thread months ago.

The difficulty curve between HTML/CSS and JavaScript is huge. So when it came time to sit down and learn the fundamentals, I wanted to take the shortcut.

HTML/CSS is sexy, easy, and fun to do. JavaScript looked boring, confusing, and annoying to figure out.

Long story short, months four and five were me going to work and coming home. But rather than working on my skillset, I just watched YouTube and played video games.

My number one go to excuse for this was:
I was able to use the computers at work.

But let's be honest, I was just action faking. I read countless theory's and talked about what I wanted to do... but never applied myself.

Sure, I COULD use the computers at work (when a customer isn't bothering me every two minutes). But is that really the best place to hone your skillset? No, not really.

Eventually I quit my job out of rage against my boss and now had a lot of free time to myself. I played a lot of games and wasted a lot of time.

But it dawned on me one day to just WATCH a damn tutorial. Don't apply it, just watch it and see what value you get from it. So I did.

It only took three episodes before I was on the computer following along. I made a commitment to only stick to this one tutorial and don't do anything else until I was finished. I disappeared from the forum because I was too busy taking action. That leads me to:

Where I am now:
Using this concept, I now know the fundamentals of:

-Front end, library-free JavaScript.
-Back end JavaScript with Node.js and express.
-React.js

I'm now learning how to put it all together with the MERN stack. Which means I'm very close to being an official full stack developer. All I need is the practice. I plan on remaking this entire forum as my first project and showcasing it to you guys.

 

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[Branko]

Thank you for asking, it means a lot to me. And there's also a story to un-pack with that question.

Where I was:
The problem was my short sightedness and laziness. The first three months were strong because of the honeymoon phase of a new idea. That was the "excitement" I was talking about when I posted this thread months ago.

The difficulty curve between HTML/CSS and JavaScript is huge. So when it came time to sit down and learn the fundamentals, I wanted to take the shortcut.

HTML/CSS is sexy, easy, and fun to do. JavaScript looked boring, confusing, and annoying to figure out.

Long story short, months four and five were me going to work and coming home. But rather than working on my skillset, I just watched YouTube and played video games.

My number one go to excuse for this was:
I was able to use the computers at work.

But let's be honest, I was just action faking. I read countless theory's and talked about what I wanted to do... but never applied myself.

Sure, I COULD use the computers at work (when a customer isn't bothering me every two minutes). But is that really the best place to hone your skillset? No, not really.

Eventually I quit my job out of rage against my boss and now had a lot of free time to myself. I played a lot of games and wasted a lot of time.

But it dawned on me one day to just WATCH a damn tutorial. Don't apply it, just watch it and see what value you get from it. So I did.

It only took three episodes before I was on the computer following along. I made a commitment to only stick to this one tutorial and don't do anything else until I was finished. I disappeared from the forum because I was too busy taking action. That leads me to:

Where I am now:
Using this concept, I now know the fundamentals of:

-Front end, library-free JavaScript.
-Back end JavaScript with Node.js and express.
-React.js

I'm now learning how to put it all together with the MERN stack. Which means I'm very close to being an official full stack developer. All I need is the practice. I plan on remaking this entire forum as my first project and showcasing it to you guys.

Good luck man, sounds like you're learning fast. I have to say 2 months sound unreasonable for this much progress... Usually people need around a year, before being production ready with a front end stack. Props. Keep it up, hope to see your posts in the near future