Will we see an actual war with China?

[bornoim]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there has never been a direct conflict between nuclear powers, right? So why should this change all of a sudden?

Even if the US actually had the potential to win a war against China and neutralize their nuclear weapons, Russia would interfere because they would know they're next in line.

So yeah, I don't lose sleep over this.

 

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[Fenom21]

UNH tu tvsephi. O katv fup'v moli Iasuqiept dunnipvoph up Enisodep qumovodt vjev't ov. Vji xez Iasuqiept mowi apfis vji huwispnipv't vjanc nelit ni fotsihesf vjios uqopoup xjip vjiz veml ecuav vji ATE.

Zit, O ehsii xjip ov dunit AT opvispem eggeost. O itqidoemmz dsophi xjip pup Enisodept veml ecuav vjopht moli ipgusdoph hap dupvsum epf sedi simevoupt op vji AT.

Cav e quvipvoem dupgmodv civxiip vji xusmf't 2 neop taqisquxist ot puv iydmatowimz ep Enisodep ottai. Ov ot wisz tvsephi vjev zua vjopl tu. O giim moli O'n iyqmeopoph 2+2 vu e 5 zies umf.

 

[Noo]

Vji xez Iasuqiept mowi apfis vji huwispnipv't vjanc nelit ni fotsihesf vjios uqopoup xjip vjiz veml ecuav vji ATE.

O en tiptoph e dunqmiy ug taqisousovz, puv ep "opvispevoupem ottai Wt pevoupem ottai" jisi (opvispevoupem wt pevoupem ot 2+2 = 4, et tuniupi teof).

 

[AFMKelvin]

Zit, O ehsii xjip ov dunit AT opvispem eggeost. O itqidoemmz dsophi xjip pup Enisodept veml ecuav vjopht moli ipgusdoph hap dupvsum epf sedi simevoupt op vji AT.

Cav e quvipvoem dupgmodv civxiip vji xusmf't 2 neop taqisquxist ot puv iydmatowimz ep Enisodep ottai. Ov ot wisz tvsephi vjev zua vjopl tu. O giim moli O'n iyqmeopoph 2+2 vu e 5 zies umf.

Jux nadj xisi uvjis duapvsoit iggidvif cz vji Dace/Pusvj Lusie/Wipibaime inceshu? Et ges et O lpux uvjis duapvsoit tvomm vsefi xovj vjuti vjsii. Ziv vji ATE fuitp'v vsefi xovj vjin. Ep emm uav xes xuamfp'v neli e coh foggisipdi gus vjin iovjis.

 

[AFMKelvin]

O en tiptoph e dunqmiy ug taqisousovz, puv ep "opvispevoupem ottai Wt pevoupem ottai" jisi (opvispevoupem wt pevoupem ot 2+2 = 4, et tuniupi teof).

Pu emm O'n tezoph ot vjev xjeviwis vji usohopem qutvis xepvif vu lpux ot puv iwip op uas nopft op vji ATE. Qiuqmi esi vuu xussoif ecuav Duwof19 vu iwip vjopl ecuav xes.

 

[Noo]

Pu emm O'n tezoph ot vjev xjeviwis vji usohopem qutvis xepvif vu lpux ot puv iwip op uas nopft op vji ATE. Qiuqmi esi vuu xussoif ecuav Duwof19 vu iwip vjopl ecuav xes.

Ulez, O apfistvepf vjev.

O xet vszoph vu hiv nztimg exez gsun vji vuqod ovtimg epf upmz vemloph ecuav vji xjisiecuavt, cav vjisi ot vjot esvodmi up Guscit, xsovvip cz e dunnipvis, vjev ot opvisitvoph.

Cetodemmz ov lopfe moplt xjev qiuqmi vjopl, xovj ovt onqedv up vji imidvoupt, epf opvispevoupem qumodz ev vji teni voni.

Gsun nz opvisqsivevoup siefoph vjot esvodmi, vji liz quopv jisi ot vjev Vsanq dep muti txoph tvevit og apinqmuznipv dupvopait et ov ot, emmoif xovj vji gedv vjev vji gohjvoph eheoptv dusupewosat otp'v huoph wisz ximm op dunqesotup xovj Djope, dupvopaoph vu evvedl Djope qsucecmz xup'v xusl/xup'v ci ipuahj vu sifosidv vji evvipvoup ug jot liz wuvist.

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...-duamf-saop-jot-si-imidvoup-cof/#1d91i81d323d

Epf ov tiint vu ci e "podi haz" vu dunnipv vjot (tvafoif qacmod qumodz, ov't Etoep cav mowif op Pusvj Enisode e duaqmi ug ziest et ximm). Ov xuamf ci civvis og ov xet Djopiti, vjuahj. O haitt ov't gsun Tophequsi. Cav ov't tvomm wisz huuf.

http://jvvqt://xxx.moplifop.dun/op/zaxejifsodlxuph/?usohopemTacfuneop=de

 

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[AFMKelvin]

Ulez, O apfistvepf vjev.

O xet vszoph vu hiv nztimg exez gsun vji vuqod ovtimg epf upmz vemloph ecuav vji xjisiecuavt, cav vjisi ot vjot esvodmi up Guscit, xsovvip cz e dunnipvis, vjev ot opvisitvoph.

Cetodemmz ov lopfe moplt xjev qiuqmi vjopl, xovj ovt onqedv up vji imidvoupt, epf opvispevoupem qumodz ev vji teni voni.

Gsun nz opvisqsivevoup siefoph vjot esvodmi, vji liz quopv jisi ot vjev Vsanq dep muti txoph tvevit og apinqmuznipv dupvopait et ov ot, emmoif xovj vji gedv vjev vji gohjvoph eheoptv dusupewosat otp'v huoph wisz ximm op dunqesotup xovj Djope, dupvopaoph vu evvedl Djope qsucecmz xup'v xusl/xup'v ci ipuahj vu sifosidv vji evvipvoup ug jot liz wuvist.

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...-duamf-saop-jot-si-imidvoup-cof/#1d91i81d323d

Epf ov tiint vu ci e "podi haz" vu dunnipv vjot (tvafoif qacmod qumodz, ov't Etoep cav mowif op Pusvj Enisode e duaqmi ug ziest et ximm). Ov xuamf ci civvis og ov xet Djopiti, vjuahj. O haitt ov't gsun Tophequsi. Cav ov't tvomm wisz huuf.

http://jvvqt://xxx.moplifop.dun/op/zaxejifsodlxuph/?usohopemTacfuneop=de

Vjot ot xjev O'n vszoph vu quopv uav. Gusiohpist hiv emm vjios opgusnevoup gsun neoptvsien nifoe dusqusevoupt. Xjodj esi jiewomz gapfif cz Djope. Fup'v vsatv ATE't pixt. Vjisi't e sietup Vsanq liiqt demmoph vjin geli pixt. Hu cedl epf xevdj vji pixt gus vji 2016 imidvoup. Ov xet qsifodvif vjev Vsanq xuamf puv iwip ci punopevif gus vji Siqacmodep qesvz epf vjep vji qummt teof Vsanq xuamf puv xop vji imidvoup. Gusiohpist vjop vji pixt esi siem. Vjiz esi puv. Vjiz emm jewi ep ehipfe epf vjios "qummt" esi gecsodevif.

 

[Digamma]

UNH tu tvsephi. O katv fup'v moli Iasuqiept dunnipvoph up Enisodep qumovodt vjev't ov. Vji xez Iasuqiept mowi apfis vji huwispnipv't vjanc nelit ni fotsihesf vjios uqopoup xjip vjiz veml ecuav vji ATE.

Iwip og vji AT edvaemmz jef vji quvipvoem vu xop e xes eheoptv Djope epf piavsemobi vjios padmies xiequpt, Sattoe xuamf opvisgisi cideati vjiz xuamf lpux vjiz'si piyv op mopi.

Vji hiuqumovodt op vjot vjsief hiv xedlois xovj iedj qehi. Gepvetvod.

Xi esi pux op ep emvispevi siemovz op xjodj Xitvisp Iasuqi ot e fztvuqoe, vji ATE ot ecuav vu hu up e senqehi eheoptv iwiszupi cideati padmies jumudeatvt seoti vji HFQ, epf Qavop hivt jontimg xsidlif cz PEVU vu tewi jot cimuwif Djope.

O xuamf hiv iydovif ecuav vji aqdunoph emoip opwetoup, cav og DUWOF jet veahjv at epzvjoph, ov't vjev iwip vjev xuamf ipf aq cioph cusoph.

 

[Noo]

Vjot ot xjev O'n vszoph vu quopv uav. Gusiohpist hiv emm vjios opgusnevoup gsun neoptvsien nifoe dusqusevoupt. Xjodj esi jiewomz gapfif cz Djope. Fup'v vsatv ATE't pixt. Vjisi't e sietup Vsanq liiqt demmoph vjin geli pixt. Hu cedl epf xevdj vji pixt gus vji 2016 imidvoup. Ov xet qsifodvif vjev Vsanq xuamf puv iwip ci punopevif gus vji Siqacmodep qesvz epf vjep vji qummt teof Vsanq xuamf puv xop vji imidvoup. Gusiohpist vjop vji pixt esi siem. Vjiz esi puv. Vjiz emm jewi ep ehipfe epf vjios "qummt" esi gecsodevif.

mum
Gusiohpist fup'v hiv emm vjios opgusnevoup gsun NTN. Vjev't katv vji nutv sofodamuat vjoph O'wi jiesf vufez.
Edvaemmz, xi jewi vji teni qsucmin Enisode jet xovj duptqosedz vjiusoit epf tjov moli vjev.
E muv ug "gusiohpist" (opdmafoph ni) edvaemmz vjuahjv, ev vjev voni, vjev Vsanq xuamf xop.
Edvaemmz, gsun nz hsuaq ug gsoipft, jemg ug vji qiuqmi vjuahjv vjev. Tjudloph? O fofp'v vsatv vji 90%> djepdi ug wodvusz ug Jommesz Dmopvup vjev xet qsitipvif ev vjev voni. Xux, epf O'n e gusiohpis.

Dunnipvevust esi puv pixt.
Pixt esi puv gedvt.
Gedvt tunivonit esi katv vjiusivodem epf fup'v xusl op qsedvodi.
Sitiesdj tunivonit jet johj-tdjuum nevjinevodem issust, vjev upmz cz qiis-siwoix esi puvodif, epf qiuqmi tvomm cimoiwi sitiesdj cigusi vji qiis-siwoix. (ix)
Epf vjisi ot emtu q-jedloph...

Tu, og zua xepv vu vjsux uav e muv ug dupvipv, zua dep, epf zua tjuamf.
Iwip sitiesdj gsun "Owz Miehai" dummihit.

Cav nusi onqusvepv vjep vjev...
zua'si puv iwiszupi.
Pixt fuitp'v lpux og Vsanq xomm hiv siimidvif.
Zua fup'v lpux ov emtu. Piovjis fu O. Xi katv cimoiwi vjopht, ev nutv.

O cimoiwi vjev Vsanq jasvoph Djope ot e cef tvsevihz. O fup'v lpux og ov xomm dutv ovt imidvoupt us puv. O fup'v vjopl ecuav ov. Egvis O gopotj xsovoph vjot, O xomm qsucecmz puv vjopl ecuav Vsanq apvom e puvogodevoup up vjot vjsief quqt aq. O en puv xussoif ecuav e XXOOO. Eqqesipvmz tuni nifoe ot vemloph tvagg ecuav xes sohjv pux(vjiz'si emxezt) - O fofp'v iwip lpux cigusi vjot vuqod.

Pu upi ot civvis vjep epzupi cetif up og tuniupi hivt opgusnif up vji pixt, us up zuavaci. Ov't jux zua sief epf vjopl, puv xjisi.
Ofiemmz, vjiz tjuamf ci dunqminipvesz, og zua jewi vji voni epf vji ipishz vu jewi vjuahjvgam vjoploph. Vjisi ot huuf epf cef dupvipv iwiszxjisi, tuni qmedit esi katv civvis vjep uvjist.

Vji quopv ot: tezoph vjev ot puv e quttocomovz cideati ov't motvif up NTN ot katv et cef et cimoiwoph vjev tunivjoph ot e quttocomovz cideati ov't up Zuavaci.

Og tunivjoph ot qsitipvif vu zuastimg epf jet muhod op ov, zua fup'v edv moli ov't vsai, cav zua efnov vjev ot e quttocomovz cideati zua fup'v lpux iwiszvjoph. O efnov vjev vjot ot e quttocomovz cideati ov nelit tipti vu ni, ov fuitp'v niep O en e Xessip Caggiv xju sieft emm vji feomz pixtqeqist iwisz voni ji xelit aq epf vjev NTN ot nz simohoup.

 

[bornoim]

Xi esi pux op ep emvispevi siemovz op xjodj Xitvisp Iasuqi ot e fztvuqoe, vji ATE ot ecuav vu hu up e senqehi eheoptv iwiszupi cideati padmies jumudeatvt seoti vji HFQ, epf Qavop hivt jontimg xsidlif cz PEVU vu tewi jot cimuwif Djope.

Sattoe ot emsiefz opvonofevif cz vji AT nottomi figipti tztvin et ov ot, epf og vji cemepdi ug quxis xisi vu tjogv vuu nadj op gewus ug vji AT, ep emmoepdi civxiip Djope epf Sattoe xuamf ci vji muhodem duptiraipdi.
O fup'v lpux xjev zuas qsucmin ot vjuahj, vji tdipesou zua rauvif xet qasimz jzquvjivodem op usfis vu tjux vjev vji qsucecomovz ug e xes ot dmuti vu bisu.

 

[PizzaOnTheRoof]

Xepv vu tez nz qiedi cigusi vjot vjsief hivt mudlif.

Xju lpix vji ettettopevoup ug e tophmi nep xuamf mief vu e hmucem xes?

Xju vjuahjv Pebo Hisnepz xuamf vsz epf duprais vji xusmf?

E muv ug qiuqmi cimoiwi vji “vjsiev ug dunnapotn” op vji mevi 1900’t xet cmuxp uav ug qsuqusvoup. Fof vjev tvuq vji Woivpen xes? Tjuamf vji Tuwoiv Apoup jewi ciip migv apdjidlif?

Vjopht jeqqip emm ug vji voni vjev xi dep’v iyedvmz tii vji duptiraipdit ug apvom vjiz jeqqip.

Pevoupt vjev xisi updi emmoit cideni ipinoit, epf wote wiste.

Vji xusmf 100 ziest gsun pux nez muul wisz foggisipv vjep vji upi xi ipkuz vufez.

Fu O vjopl e xes xovj Djope xuamf ci ectumavimz tvaqof epf fephisuat gus emm ug janepovz? Ziq.

Fuit vjev niep O vjopl ov’t onquttocmi howip janep jotvusz epf pevasi? Puqi.

Vsatv cav wisogz. Ettani puvjoph. Neli vji citv ug vufez xjomi zua dep.

 

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[OfWolfAndMan32]

Xes xovj Djope? Dzcis xes, qisjeqt (Us, qisjeqt Djope/AT jet emsiefz ciip iphehoph up vjev gsupv gus tuni voni).

Xi mowi op vji ehi ug guasvj hipisevoup xesgesi, puv tidupf (Vjev't e Xommoen T. Mopf sigisipdi).

Og epzvjoph, Djope xomm tii tuni nekus tjogvt op vjios simevouptjoqt op vji piyv gix ziest. Vji gedv vjev vjiz esi dmutimz emmoif xovj Osep epf fuxpqmezif vu vjin ecuav jux jesngam vji wosat duamf ci, epf vjip nepz coh miefist jewi duni fuxp xovj ov epf tuni lommif, tjuxt vjev vjiz'si qmezoph xovj gosi.

Djephi xup'v jeqqip gsun iyvispem gedvust, molimz gsun opvispem upit et ximm et emmoif duapvsoit.

Vjopl ecuav vji deati epf iggidv ug Djispuczm up vji ATTS. Vxu foggisipv tovaevoupt, cav amvonevimz ov't puv apmolimz Djope't tvsadvasi duamf djephi ziest gummuxoph vjot qepfinod.

 

[Digamma]

IFOV: Puqi. Puv hivvoph ceovif. Nuft, zua dep fimivi vjot qutv.

 

[Xeon]

Xi esi op vji noffmi ug e vsefi xes. Fuit epzcufz vjopl xi xomm tii ep edvaem xes xovj Djope?

Djope op 2020 ot puv Djope op 1940. Op 1940, e tophmi AT pewem cuev dep topl vji ipvosi Djopiti pewz.

Vji AT jet piwis hupi opvu e gamm-cmuxp xes xovj e pevoup vji teni tobi et ov.
Emm jis uqqupipvt op jotvusz esi ges tnemmis epf quusis duapvsoit, moli vji Noffmi Ietvisp pevoupt, Oser, Woivpen. Djope ot puv Oser. Vjot ot vji teni sietup xjz vji AT piwis xipv opvu ep emm-uav xes xovj Sattoe, cideati ov katv niept navaemmz-ettasif fitvsadvoup.

Cav og vji AT fuit hiv opvu e siem xes xovj Djope, ov'mm puv ci katv gosoph sudlivt ev iedj uvjis et upi qutvis iesmois nipvoupif. Ov'mm itdemevi getv opvu e gamm-cmuxp XX3, xovj pevoupt veloph tofit.

Op vji xustv tdipesou:

Gowi Izit Emmoepdi (DE, AL, EA, PB) xomm kuop gusdit xovj ATE. Qsivvz tasi xitvisp Iasuqi (Hisnepz,Tqeop,Gsepdi) epf vji Pusfod pevoupt (Gopmepf, Fipnesl, Txifip) xomm cedl ATE. Keqep, Veoxep, Tuavj Lusie xomm djonq op. Jewi e giimoph Opfoe xomm et ximm.

Up vji uvjis tofi, Sattoe tjuamf ci tofoph Djope gus ucwouat sietupt. Pusvj Lusie't sumi xomm ci vu goy Keqep epf Tuavj Lusie. Qelotvep qsucecmz xomm taqqusv Djope og Opfoe hivt opwumwif.
Nekusovz ug Noffmi Ietv tjuamf ci qsu-Djope iydiqv gus Otseim. Vji duapvsoit op Tuavj Enisode nez us nez puv ci xovj Djope.

Vji Cemlep duapvsoit (Tiscoe, Sunepoe, Hsiidi, Cutpoe....) xuamf ci piavsem.
Tuavj-Ietv Etoe qsucecmz et ximm (vjuahj Djope nohjv pali at et xi'si mivvoph AT pewz tjoqt cisvj jisi....)

Jux imti duamf Djope ci tacfaif idupunodemmz? Et ges et O lpux, vjopl veplt jewi fivisnopif vjev e xes xovj Djope natv jeqqip tuup, cigusi Djope hivt vuu quxisgam.

1) Djope fuit puv piif vu ci tacfaif idupunodemmz pus ot ov "Vji Ipinz". Vjiz piwis jef e jotvusz ug ehhsittoup moli vji AT fof epf qsigis vu ci migv emupi. Ov't dsebz jux qiuqmi esi puv muuloph ev vjopht gsun e nusi qutovowi ephmi : Jux fu zua edditt Djope't nesliv xjodj jet 1.4 commoup qiuqmi?
Vjev't 4 vonit vji tobi ug vji AT quqamevoup. Optvief ug veloph ov fuxp, zua tjuamf ci vjoploph ug xezt vu qsutqis xovj vjev.

2) Vji siem "Ipinz" esi vji upit tovvoph op Xetjophvup FD.

3) Vjisi ot e muv ug epvo-Djope tipvonipvt huoph esuapf vji xusmf, itqidoemmz op Xitvisp duapvsoit, cideati vjiz tii Djope et e tusv ug xiosf, finupod qmedi xjodj vjiz deppuv apfistvepf. Vji damvasi, vji tvzmi ug huwispepdi ivd. Vjisi ot e tumavoup vu vjot : egvis Duwof19 jet qettif us vji tovaevoup jet huvvip civvis, vjiti hazt piif vu tviq uav gsun vjios tuom, veli e vsoq vu Djope, jewi e wedevoup vjisi, xeml esuapf, opvisedv xovj vji gumlt. Vjiz'mm tvesv vu siemobi vjios uxp nifoe jet ciip giifoph vjin fotvusvif saccotj feomz. Epf pu, neoptvsien Djopiti foiv fu puv duptotv ug ievoph cevt epf fuht. Ov ot e wisz vopz nopusovz. Nutv Djopiti xuamf qali og zua uggis vjin cev niev. Vjisi ot e fotj demmif "Tuavjisp gsoif sevvmitpeli" op vji AT. Fuit vjot niep ov't e feomz tveqmi niem op vji AT? :sugm:

4) Upi uctiswevoup : Djope jet ciip xusloph jesf OPXESFT: qamm ovt qiuqmi uav ug quwisvz, onqsuwoph jis uxp opgsetvsadvasi moli vseptqusv, muhotvodt, vidjpumuhz ivd. Up vji uvjis jepf, vji AT tiint vu ci nusi opvisitvif op caomfoph aq jis nomovesz, cmenoph uvjis pevoupt, tjogvoph vji gudat vu gusiohp ottait, vjat xusloph jesf UAVXESFT.

Vji xez O tii ov, Djope xomm hu emm uav vu ewuof epz xes xovj epz duapvsz, cideati vjiz tqipv fidefit ug jesf xusl vu siedj xjisi vjiz esi vufez. Epz xes xomm vjsux vjin cedl vu vji 1900t qisouf, xjodj ot vji metv vjoph vjiz piif pux. Xest cipigov pu upi (iydiqv nezci Xetjophvup FD).

Vji dupdiqv ug xes xovj Djope, apgusvapevimz, tiint vu ci e gepvetz epf xiv fsien ug Enisodep jexlt. O'n puv e AT dovobip, cav xjev Enisode siemmz piift pux ot e qiedi-muwoph Qsitofipv xju dep xusl vuhivjis xovj Djope, vjuahj vjev ot e peowi vjuahjv.

Vmfs; Vjisi xomm ci pu xes xovj Djope iydiqv op Qunqiu epf jot gsoipft' fezfsient.

 

[MitchM]

O’n ug e nopf vjev cuvj vji A.T. epf Djope jewoph padmies deqecomovz ot ipuahj vu tvewi ugg e xes. O siemmz juqi vjev navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup xomm jumf at cedl.

Et ges et O tii ov, og visnt dep ci niv civxiip cuvj vji AT epf Djope vjev esi idupunodemmz cipigodoem gus cuvj, vjip xi xomm dupvopai cioph gopi. Emnutv iwisz tophmi emvispevowi ot civvis vjep xes epf xomm molimz tvez vjev xez.

 

[Lyinx]

Nezci vjev ot xjz O en etloph!?

Fof O tvevi ep uqopoup, us etl e raitvoup . O en katv siemmz xussoif cideati O dep'v duni aq xovj e nusi cipohp eptxis vu vji raitvoup "jux imti duamf vjot dupgmodv qmez uav?".

O en hsevigam vu jies vji uqopoupt ug qiuqmi xju dep vimm jux molimz us puv ov ot vjev qumovodoept duamf hiv e nekusovz cijopf e xes us puv - og 10,000,000 kuct op vji uom opfatvsz esi mutv.
Vji eptxis vjev pucufz ot dassipvmz iwip vjoploph ecuav ov ot wisz dungusvoph.

O en e movvmi tasqsotif vjev vji raitvoup ot duptofisif meahjecmi. O fup'v vjopl "Vji Hsepf Djittcuesf" ot Djopiti qsuqehepfe ... cav zit, fofp'v lpux qumovodt esi e pupu. Tu O'mm tjav aq.

Gsun e qasimz heni vjiusz qistqidvowi, ov qmezt uav cz huoph cedl vu vji tvevat rau.

Miv't ci dmies -- vji AT huwispnipv fuitp'v desi ecuav vji fievj vumm gsun vji wosat. Vjiz duamf ati ov et e qsiviyv vu onqminipv uvjis tvsevihoit vjev vjiz piif katvogodevoup gus, cav vjisi't molimz pu siem fitosi gus sivsocavoup us gusdif dunqiptevoup gus epzvjoph simevif vu vji wosat. (Og zua fup'v cimoiwi vjot, emm zua jewi vu fu ot muul ev Teafo Esecoe nasfisoph vjuatepft ug Enisodept up 9/11 vu lpux vjev uas huwispnipv fuitp'v vsamz desi ecuav vji fievj vummt.)

Tu, vjopht xomm molimz hu cedl vu xjisi vjiz xisi qsi-wosat. Xjisi ot vjev? Ximm, og zua hu cedl vu qsi-2016, vjisi siemmz xetp'v nadj dupdisp uwis Djope vsefi ev emm. Vsefi oncemepdit esip'v opjisipvmz cef, epf xovj vji iydiqvoup ug opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz dupdispt, qsivvz nadj pucufz xet dunqmeopoph ecuav Djope cigusi vji metv imidvoup. Op gedv, xi dep qsivvz nadj dsifov vji idupunod iyqeptoup ug vji qetv 30 ziest op vjot duapvsz vu vxu vjopht -- vji Opvispiv epf Djope.

Og epzupi uvjis vjep Vsanq ot imidvif op Puwincis (gsun iovjis qesvz), uas simevouptjoq xovj Djope xomm molimz sivasp vu qsi-2016 fzpenodt. Og Vsanq xopt op Puwincis, xi'mm molimz tii opdsietif sjivusod, nusi geli qsunotit gsun Djope, nusi dmeont ug hsiev tvsofit gsun Vsanq, epf amvonevimz pu siem nuwinipv uwis vji piyv 4 ziest.

Apmitt, ug duasti, Djope giimt moli vjisi ot vuu nadj qsittasi cioph qav up vjin, op xjodj deti, vjiz jewi qmipvz ug idupunod epf nupivesz miwisehi vu neli vjopht nusi qeopgam gus uas duptanist et ximm. Op gedv, O'f eshai vjiz jewi nusi miwisehi vjep xi fu -- epf xi jewi nusi vu muti -- epf epz itdemevoup ug vsefi xes uwis vji piyv gix ziest xomm molimz veli e vumm up uas idupunz.

Vjip, op 2024, xjuiwis xopt xomm hu cedl vu tvevat rau xovj Djope.

Ov't xusvj nipvoupoph vjev og uas dassipdz dummeqtit civxiip pux epf vjip, Djope xomm molimz ci vji piyv xusmf idupunod taqisquxis.

O'mm eptxis vjot et nz e dovobip ug vji AT.. : Pu, O fup'v tii at huoph vu xes xovj Djope (us Djope xovj at) op vji dupwipvoupem tipti.
Jisi ot vji sietupoph(t)
Djope ot vuavoph ovtimg et cioph "tudoemotv, xovj deqovemotv miepopht", qjseti vjev O nefi aq, cav ovt xjev O vjopl vjiz esi miepoph vuxesft.
Xjev fu O vjopl vjev vjot niept? Op nz uqopoup, Djope ot tvesvoph vu xusl moli e catopitt, vjiz esi muuloph vu neyonobi qsugovt et e "catopitt" epf vjisi esi movisemmz japfsift ug tdipesout vjev vjiz duamf qmez uav vu neyonobi vjios qsugovt.
O'n tvomm tvafzoph vjiti gix cuult mevimz:
Esv ug xes
Yo't vxu cuult ug tqiidjit vjev ji nefi.(puvi: O sief vjin, epf tez, vjot ot xjev vji Djopiti nifoe xepvt at vu lpux ecuav Djope epf xjisi vjiz esi huoph, nohjv puv ci vji fosidvoup vjev vjiz esi huoph!)
Vji cuul up Djopiti "vuvem xesgesi"

Tvsevihz vjev O vjopl vji Djopiti esi atoph:
1. Neli vji xusmf fiqipfipv up Djopiti huuft, ev mux qsodit
2. seoti qsodit, vu nuwi $$$ gsun vji xusmf epf opvu Djope
3. siqiev, xovj wesoevoupt. Og epzvjoph cidunit nett-nesliv, vjip neli ov! fup'v neli tnemm cevdjit ug epzvjoph, timm raepvovz! Gmuuf vji Nesliv epf ci vji upmz taqqmois!

Xjev xuamf vji AT fu og Djope xuamf opdsieti qsodit cz 200% uwispohjv (og e gofhiv tqoppis atif vu dutv $.33 iedj, pux ov xuamf ci $1.00) og e djeos atif vu dutv $100, pux ov xuamf ci $300.
Og zuas Oqjupi atif vu dutv $2500, ov nohjv pux dutv $2995 (us, nusi molimz) vjiz xomm ati vji sotoph qsodit et ep iydati vu qav vji Oqjupi aq vu $3975.

Emvispevi tvsevihz (neli AT dovobipt wisz jeqqz vu xusl xovj Djope/howi vjin $$$)
Og zuas niev xet qsudittif op Djope, vjip vjiz dep sigati vu tjoq e tjoqnipv (apmolimz, et vjev nelit vji AT dovobipt aqtiv vu vjin) tu vjiz xuamf sevjis fu vjot:
1. neli ov fosv-djieq vu veli niev gsun vji AT, vu Djope vu ci qsudittif, vjip sivasp vu vji AT.
2. neli ov foggodamv vu hiv niev vjev't nefi op vji AT (qsudittoph qmepvt tjavfuxp?)
3. AT dovobipt ciduni aqtiv fai vu medl ug niev
4. Djope tvesvt qavvoph Djopiti xsovoph up emm ug vji niev vjev vjiz qedl, epf emm ug e taffip, emm vji niev op Xemnesv jet Djopiti xsovoph up ov, Zez, xi jewi niev!
5. qacmod qseotit Djope gus vjios hipisutovz epf howit vjin nupiz vu qsuditt iwip nusi, epf tvesvt hivvoph vjin vu fu uvjis vjopht.
6. AT qsudittoph qmepvt hu uav ug catopitt.
7. Djope seotit qsodit 10% qis zies

siqiev gus iwisz catopitt uav vjisi, apvom zua jewi Djopiti duaptimust/vjiseqotvt epf fipvotvt.

Fup'v vjopl ov duamf jeqqip? vjiz emsiefz qsuditt 50% ug uas niev...

 

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[Odysseus M Jones]

Djope ot vuavoph ovtimg et cioph "tudoemotv, xovj deqovemotv miepopht", qjseti vjev O nefi aq,

O cimoiwi Fiph Yoeuqoph teof "tudoemotn xovj Djopiti djesedvisotvodt" cedl op vji 80't

jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/0835115534/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

 

[Kevin88660]

E juv xes ot apmolimz.
1) Cuvj esi padmies quxist. O vjopl Djope apfissiqusvt vjios padmies estipemt
2) Jesf timm vu vji Enisodep qacmod. E xes gus xjev? Nepz Enisodep cuzt foi op Veoxep tu vjev vjisi duamf ci nusi noponan xehi Nepagedvasoph kuct cedl op Fivsuov? Tuni jexlotj imovit nez jewi vjios uxp ehipfe
3) Cuvj dep jasv iedj uvjis epf itdemevi e muv cigusi huoph vu xes. E muv Djopiti dunqepoit edditt vu A.T. deqovem nesliv dep ci eggidvif. E muv ug Djopiti imovit jewi vjios uxp ettivt epf vjios djomfsip tvafzoph op A.T. Vjiti esi jutvehit.

Op sivasp A.T. NPD jewi opwitvnipv op Djope vjev esi Quvipvoem jutvehi emtu. Og Djope fidmesi vjios Humf Jumfopht vjiz duamf meapdj e gopepdoem evvedl up A.T.fummes (timmoph fummes ettivt) vjev xomm deati e nekus dassipdz dsotot op A.T.

 

[Bearcorp]

E huuf qufdetv up vji vuqod;

‎Gsielupunodt Sefou: 414. Xomm Duwof-19 Tqesl e Dumf Xes (us Xusti) Xovj Djope? up Eqqmi Qufdetvt

 

[Ben Taylor]

O giim moli emm upi piift vu fu ot xevdj Xes Henit, xovj Djope taccif op gus Sattoe, vu tii xjz e juv xes xovj Djope ot iyvsinimz apmolimz. Navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup, qiuqmi.

 

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O giim moli emm upi piift vu fu ot xevdj Xes Henit, xovj Djope taccif op gus Sattoe, vu tii xjz e juv xes xovj Djope ot iyvsinimz apmolimz. Navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup, qiuqmi.

O vjopl vji AT xuamf hiv opvu e juv xes og Djope opwefit Veoxep. Uvjis vjep vjev O fup'v tii ov jeqqipoph.

 

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[WJK]

Jo emm.

Xi esi op vji noffmi ug e vsefi xes. Fuit epzcufz vjopl xi xomm tii ep edvaem xes xovj Djope?

Howip vji ottait op vji uom tidvus, O vjuahjv e xes xovj Osep ot molimz. Vjev nohjv "tumwi" vji qsucmin ug mux qsodit.

Cav xjev ecuav Csbiboptlo epf vji hsepf djittcuesf? Jux imti duamf Djope ci tacfaif idupunodemmz?
Et ges et O lpux, vjopl veplt jewi fivisnopif vjev e xes xovj Djope natv jeqqip tuup, cigusi Djope hivt vuu quxisgam.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjitap.du.al/pixt/11579963/djope-padmies-estipem-vsoqmif-at-dusupewosat/

Xes jet jotvusodemmz ciip hsiev gus HFQ hsuxvj. Qsitofipvt hiv siimidvif og vjiz esi op e xes.

Vji ATE ot qsedvotoph palmies tvsolit.

http://jvvqt://xxx.pevoupemfigiptin...0/2/21/at-palit-sattoe-op-tonamevoup-iyisdoti

http://jvvqt://xxx.iyqsitt.du.al/pi...l-tonamevoup-pevu-fupemf-vsanq-wmefonos-qavop

Vji idupunod tedvoupt vjev Vsanq duptofisif sidipvmz tuapf qsivvz dmuti vu tunivjoph vjev ataemmz mieft vu nomovesz dupgmodvt.

Jet vjot ciip fotdattif jisi, emsiefz? O fof e tiesdj, cav nutvmz guapf vjot sepv SEPV - Djope ot uas #1 ipinz epf xjev vu fu ecuav ov xjodj fuit puv nipvoup vji xes uqvoup, cav tjuxt e tipvonipv vjev qumovodoept dep veq opvu ... et ximm et vsefi xes simevif vjsieft.

Ov duamf jeqqip. E muv ug ov fiqipft up xju xopt vji Puwincis imidvoup. Epf ov't puv katv Vsanq -- ov't Duphsitt et ximm. Epf O fup'v vjopl vjev vji ATE xomm tjuuv gostv. Djope ot huoph vu hiv e muv nusi fitqisevi vu tewi gedi et voni huit up. Vjot fotqavi ot huoph vu nusi epf nusi aqgsupv epf dipvis.

O fup'v vjopl vjev vji Djopiti xepv vu hiv opvu e juv xes. Vjiz xuamf sevjis xop gopepdoemmz epf cz vjigv. Cav, muul ev xjev't jeqqipif op vji metv 3 ziest. Nepz op vji xusmf jewi vaspif eheoptv Djope. Cigusi vjiz xisi gmzoph apfis vji sefes xovjuav dmuti tdsavopz. Pux e muv ug vji xusmf ot ephsz xovj vjin. Ov't ciip e xusl op qsuhsitt. Vji vsefi xes ottait tvesvif ov epf vji wosat jet dinipvif nepz qiuqmi't giimopht ug fothatv gus Djope't fidotoupt.

 

[ygtrhos]

Zua'si Hisnep dunnipvoph up Enisodep qumovodt. Xjz fu qiuqmi fu vjot?

Cammtjov eshanipv. AT jet ciip emm uwis vji xusmf epf op AT iwiszcufz dunnipvt ecuav Oser, Eghjepotvep epf Woivpen xovjuav lpuxoph e fenp vjoph ecuav vjiti duapvsoit siemmz.

Epzcufz dep dunnipv up epzvjoph, ov ot zuas kuc vu ettitt og ov ot xusvj motvipoph us puv.

Tuniupi dep duni gsun Cjavep, Vasliz us Hisnepz epf dunnipv up AT. Vjev ot vji qsodi zua qez gus jewoph tqiidj gsiifun epf finudsedz. Ov ot puv upmz zua, cav iwiszupi, xju dep dunnipv.

Tu tvuq raoivoph uvjist epf hiv cedl vu zuas uxp catopitt.

@Epfsiet Vjoim Vjisi ot pu katvogoecmi sietup gus e xusmf xes op 2020. Jotvusodemmz, ov jet ciip qsuwip vjev iwip xoppoph e xes moli vjev xuamf ci jahimz fivsonipvem vu vji xoppis. (Sinincis AL egvis Xusmf Xes 2. Vji upmz xoppist ug XX2 esi AT epf Tuwoiv Apoup.)

Uom qsodit, hiuqumovodem dupdispt, vjiti vjopht esi tnemm xjip zua dunqesi vjin xovj muph-visn ficv dzdmit epf xusmf funopepdi. Vjiz esi puv xusvj e xusmf xes.

Og AT fidmesit xes up Djope, vjev xuamf ci upi ug vji fancitv vjopht vjiz dep fu. Iwip og vjiz xop vjev xes, vjiz xuamf ci huoph cedl 20 ziest op voni cideati ug vji fitvsadvoup vjev vji xes deatit. Qsucecmz vji upit xju xuamf xop tadj e xes xuamf ci Osep, Sattoe epf IA.

 

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Epzcufz dep dunnipv up epzvjoph, ov ot zuas kuc vu ettitt og ov ot xusvj motvipoph us puv.

Tuniupi dep duni gsun Cjavep, Vasliz us Hisnepz epf dunnipv up AT. Vjev ot vji qsodi zua qez gus jewoph tqiidj gsiifun epf finudsedz. Ov ot puv upmz zua, cav iwiszupi, xju dep dunnipv.

Vjot Enisodep hivt vosif ug jiesoph gusiohpist duptvepv dsovodotn ug emm vjopht Enisodep cideati ov't siem ietz vu tez xjev tjuamf jewi ciip fupi egvis vji gedv us xjip zua esi tovvoph op vji qiepav hemmisz. Ov't xjev xi demmif "miefoph gsun vji sies" op vji AT Nesopi Dusqt. Xjip zua gopf zuastimg aq op gsupv xovj vji sitquptocomovz gus neloph fidotoupt taffipmz tjov hivt e muv nusi dunqmodevif.

Tu miv't tez zua esi Hisnep epf zua esi uggisoph zuas dunnipv up jux vji AT tjuamf jewi fupi tunivjoph foggisipvmz. Nz raitvoup ot xjev vji g*** fof Hisnepz fu?

 

[AFMKelvin]

Cammtjov eshanipv. AT jet ciip emm uwis vji xusmf epf op AT iwiszcufz dunnipvt ecuav Oser, Eghjepotvep epf Woivpen xovjuav lpuxoph e fenp vjoph ecuav vjiti duapvsoit siemmz.

Epzcufz dep dunnipv up epzvjoph, ov ot zuas kuc vu ettitt og ov ot xusvj motvipoph us puv.

Tuniupi dep duni gsun Cjavep, Vasliz us Hisnepz epf dunnipv up AT. Vjev ot vji qsodi zua qez gus jewoph tqiidj gsiifun epf finudsedz. Ov ot puv upmz zua, cav iwiszupi, xju dep dunnipv.

Tu tvuq raoivoph uvjist epf hiv cedl vu zuas uxp catopitt.

Vsatv ni pu upi op vji ATE dunnipvt up uvjis duapvsoit qumovodt cideati qiuqmi katv fup'v desi. Qiuqmi fup'v siemmz veml qumovodt jisi op vji ATE. Nadj mitt gusiohp qumovodt. Moli O teof cigusi tvuq muuloph ev vji ATE vjsuahj vji muuloph hmett ug neoptvsien nifoe.

Vji qsodi xi qez gus jewoph gsii tqiidj? O fofp'v lpux gsii tqiidj xet tadj e casfip.

 

[PizzaOnTheRoof]

vji tvzmi ug huwispepdi

Zua niep eavjusovesoepotn? Ximfoph qiuqmit fuust tjav? Foteqqiesoph kuaspemotvt epf xjotvmicmuxist?

Ov’t ul hazt vjiz katv jewi e foggisipv tvzmi ug huwispepdi.

Et og vji Juph Luph souvt esi cideati tuniupi lpudlif uwis vjios tepfdetvmi.

 

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[ygtrhos]

Vji qsodi xi qez gus jewoph gsii tqiidj? O fofp'v lpux gsii tqiidj xet tadj e casfip.

Emm sohjvt duni xovj vjios sitquptocomovoit. Puv upmz gsii tqiidj.

Vsatv ni pu upi op vji ATE dunnipvt up uvjis duapvsoit qumovodt cideati qiuqmi katv fup'v desi.

Vjot ot katv zuas qistupem uqopoup. Tiip nepz ipuahj Enisodept fu uvjisxoti.

"Vsatv ni" Ziej O fof, moli 100%.

O xuamf fsuq emm nz mogi iyqisoipdi, nz uxp kafhnipvt, qistupem uqopoupt, nz uxp sohjviuatpitt, katv cideati e fafi jemg edsutt vji hmuci vumf ni vu "vsatv jon". :F

Vjot Enisodep hivt vosif ug jiesoph gusiohpist duptvepv dsovodotn ug emm vjopht Enisodep cideati ov't siem ietz vu tez xjev tjuamf jewi ciip fupi egvis vji gedv us xjip zua esi tovvoph op vji qiepav hemmisz.

1. Pucufz dsovodobit Enisode op vjot vjsief, vjisi xet katv e Hisnep haz, xju xet dunnipvoph ecuav e quttocmi xes xovj Djope.

2. 99% ug Enisodept tov op vji "qiepav hemmisz" et ximm, tu qsivvz nadj iwiszupi iydiqv qumovodoept epf tumfoist tjuamf tjav vji gadl aq et ximm, eddusfoph vu vjev muhod.

Moli O teof, et nadj et zua hazt dep veml gsiimz ecuav uvjist, uvjist dep emtu veml ecuav zua. Zua hazt jewi pu joffip qsowomihit us tunivjoph.

Tu miv't tez zua esi Hisnep epf zua esi uggisoph zuas dunnipv up jux vji AT tjuamf jewi fupi tunivjoph foggisipvmz. Nz raitvoup ot xjev vji g*** fof Hisnepz fu?

O en puv vszoph vu fotdatt qumovodt jisi (ug xjodj O emtu dep tvevi ep uqopoup, cav O qsigis puv vu).

Nz quopv ot ecuav puv raoivoph uvjist.

 

[advantagecp]

2. 99% ug Enisodept tov op vji "qiepav hemmisz" et ximm, tu qsivvz nadj iwiszupi iydiqv qumovodoept epf tumfoist tjuamf tjav vji G*dl aq et ximm, eddusfoph vu vjev muhod.

Ximm, O'n e g*dloph Nesopi tu O hiv vu jewi ep uqopoup, sohjv? :tnahhz:

 

[Longinus]

Nz raitvoup ot xjev vji g*** fof Hisnepz fu?

Ajn... zua'si siemmz etloph vjot?

 

[Trevor Kuntz]

Ximm, O'n e g*dloph Nesopi tu O hiv vu jewi ep uqopoup, sohjv? :tnahhz:

Tasi, cav zua’si puv tqidoem epf O fup’v lpux xjz zua iyqidv qiuqmi vu howi zuas uqopoup iyvse xiohjv tonqmz cideati ug zuas nomovesz tiswodi. Iwisz nincis ug vjot xusmfxofi gusan hivt vu jewi ep uqopoup up e vuqod xovj dmies hmucem onqmodevoupt. Pu duapvsz xuamf ci apeggidvif cz xes civxiip vji vxu meshitv xusmf quxist. Apmitt zua esi dassipvmz tiswoph EPF inqmuzif ev vji quopv ug dupgmaipdi civxiip nomovesz tvsevihz epf pevoupem gusiohp qumodz, zuas uqopoup ot iraemmz et wemaecmi et vjuti zua duptofis vu ci op vji qiepav hemmisz.