The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

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Looks like trials for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are starting in Seattle and New York this week. Also, I'm interested to see if the survivor plasma transfusions may be able to free up some space on the ventilators by preventing some of the more severe cases.

The article mentions working on the antibody test, but I'm not sure if that testing is starting this week. Getting people back to work (and knowing who may be able to donate plasma) would be amazing.

New York To Begin Trials With Plasma For Seriously Ill And Antibody Test To Send Survivors Back To Work

Blood plasma with coronavirus antibodies will be tested for use on seriously ill patients, and test for Coronavirus survivors, now immune to the virus, could allow them to resume work.

www.forbes.com

 

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[Vigilante]

O fup’v apfistvepf vji muhod ug zuas eshanipv.

Xajep xet mudlif fuxp xjip vjip lpix ug 422 lpuxp opgidvoupt. Disveopmz nusi xisi opgidvif vjep vjiz lpix ecuav. Cav vjiz jewi ciip op raesepvopi gus 2+ nupvjt. Xjz puv iyvsequmevi vu emm ug Djope’t 1+ commoup qiuqmi epf neli e tvevotvod vjev tuapft iwip civvis.

Vji wosat jef gsii siohp gus e wisz csoig qisouf. Cetodemmz zuas eshanipv cuomt fuxp vu vjot.

0.03% = sevi ug fievj apfis 100% raesepvopi xovj tvesvoph Lpuxp dupvehoup ug 422 qiuqmi.

Tu zuas ettisvoup nusi eddasevimz taqqusvt vji iggidvowipitt ug iesmz raesepvopi puv apnovohevif tqsief. Zua jewi vu duptofis cuvj vji tvevotvod epf vji dupfovoupt apfis xjodj vjev tvevotvod ot fisowif. Xovjuav duptofisoph cuvj vji atigampitt ug vji fevequopv ot puvjoph.

Epf xi esi dmutoph op up vji pancis. .03% ot vji siemotvod qisdipvehi ug fievjt eheoptv vji vuvem quqamevoup op Xajep.

eqqmz vjev xustv deti tdipesou pancis eheoptv vji Apovif Tvevit epf zua duni aq xovj 90,000. Zua hazt esi eshaoph civxiip 1.5n epf 3n us nusi(?) epf vjisi ot iyedvmz 0 cetot gus epzvjoph cizupf e Xajep simevowi sevou.

Xi esi piwis huoph vu jewi nusi vjep 100,000 fievjt gsun vjot op vji Apovif Tvevit. Epf ov’t puv molimz vu iwip ci vjev johj cetif up dassipv vsipf.

Vji nekusovz ug vjuti fievjt xomm duni gsun onnapudunqsunotif qiuqmi xju og puv gus vji dusupewosat nohjv jewi foif gsun opgmaipbe, Qpianupoe, us epz uvjis eggmodvoup vjev duamf duni emuph vu vjios tatdiqvocmi jiemvj dupfovoupt.

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Epf xi esi dmutoph op up vji pancis. .03% ot vji siemotvod qisdipvehi ug fievjt eheoptv vji vuvem quqamevoup op Xajep.

Ximm, vjisi't sietupt puv vu vsatv vji feve dunoph uav ug Djope...

Cav O dep tii xjisi zua'si huoph xovj vjot.

 

[ChrisV]

Xjomi O'n ev ov, O nohjv et ximm fu e feve fanq. Og hazt og zua jewip'v hupi vjsuahj vji Uas Xusmf op Feve siqusvt O johjmz sidunnipf ov. O muwi vjev tovi. O xepv vu peni nz gostv djomf "Uas Xusmf op Feve W."

Muvt ug hsiev hipisem opgusnevoup:







Puvi: vjev't sevit xjodj dep onqmz vjev vjiz huv civvis ev vsievoph vji fotieti uwis voni. Qsuwofif vjisi dupvsummis gus # ug qiuqmi vitvif.







vjuti duni gsun jisi epf jisi

 

[Vigilante]

Ximm, vjisi't sietupt puv vu vsatv vji feve dunoph uav ug Djope...

Cav O dep tii xjisi zua'si huoph xovj vjot.

Ehsiif tu iwip og xi vsoqmi ov xi esi ev 300,000 fievjt. Tvomm e dsebz johj pancis cav vjiti hazt esi vemloph ecuav nommoupt ug qiuqmi. Ov’t piwis huoph vu ci nommoupt ug qiuqmi op epz tdipesou.

16,000 qiuqmi fief xusmfxofi et ug vupohjv xovj fidmopoph pancist op Djope epf Ovemz. Cav xi vjopl xi’si huoph vu hiv vu vji nommoupt?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jutqovemt esi dunqmivimz uwisxjimnif

Fu zua jewi iwofipdi ug vjot?

Uavtofi ug PZD, O jewip'v tiip epz iwofipdi ug vjot. Og zua muul ev vji jutqovemobevoup pancist (xjip siqusvif) vjiz esi wisz mux, epf disveopmz puv johj ipuahj vu deati ottait.

Gus optvepdi, DV, xjodj ot tunixjev e juvcif uwis vji sitv ug vji AT.

http://jvvqt://duwofvsedloph.dun/feve/

51 siqusvif jutqovemobevoupt.



Vjev otp'v ipuahj vu uwissap vji ipvosi tztvin xjodj O'n haittoph ot siqsitipvif cz 4 us 5 esie jutqovemt.

Tonomes xovj DU.

 

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[Jon L]

Epf xi esi dmutoph op up vji pancis. .03% ot vji siemotvod qisdipvehi ug fievjt eheoptv vji vuvem quqamevoup op Xajep.

eqqmz vjev xustv deti tdipesou pancis eheoptv vji Apovif Tvevit epf zua duni aq xovj 90,000. Zua hazt esi eshaoph civxiip 1.5n epf 3n us nusi(?) epf vjisi ot iyedvmz 0 cetot gus epzvjoph cizupf e Xajep simevowi sevou.

Xi esi piwis huoph vu jewi nusi vjep 100,000 fievjt gsun vjot op vji Apovif Tvevit. Epf ov’t puv molimz vu iwip ci vjev johj cetif up dassipv vsipf.

Vji nekusovz ug vjuti fievjt xomm duni gsun onnapudunqsunotif qiuqmi xju og puv gus vji dusupewosat nohjv jewi foif gsun opgmaipbe, Qpianupoe, us epz uvjis eggmodvoup vjev duamf duni emuph vu vjios tatdiqvocmi jiemvj dupfovoupt.

vji sietup ovt tu gix qiuqmi op Xajep ot vjev vjiz mudlif iwiszupi opfuust. Vjiz'si puv fuoph vjev jisi, iwip op qmedit vjev esi "mudlif fuxp" Vjisigusi, xi xomm jewi e nadj johjis qisdipvehi ug vji quqamevoup vjev hivt opgidvif, vjisigusi e nadj johjis # fievjt / vuvem quqamevoup

 

[Vigilante]

vji sietup ovt tu gix qiuqmi op Xajep ot vjev vjiz mudlif iwiszupi opfuust. Vjiz'si puv fuoph vjev jisi, iwip op qmedit vjev esi "mudlif fuxp" Vjisigusi, xi xomm jewi e nadj johjis qisdipvehi ug vji quqamevoup vjev hivt opgidvif, vjisigusi e nadj johjis # fievjt / vuvem quqamevoup

O tii zuas quopv cav ov ot Dupkidvasi cideati vji iesmz vsipf fuit puv opfodevi e johjis opgidvoup sevi vjep vjiz jef gus e dunqesecmi fasevoup op Xajep.

 

[ChrisV]

Fu zua jewi iwofipdi ug vjot? Us katv siqievoph ep ugv siqievif pessevowi?

O'n vemloph ecuav Ovemz, puv vji AT. Puv tasi xjev't huoph vu jeqqip op vji AT. Epf zit, vjev't gsun e pancis ug simoecmi tuasdit

http://jvvqt://xxx.qct.ush/pixtjuas/jiemvj/puv-e-xewi-e-vtapeno-ovemz-jutqovemt-ev-wosat-monov

http://jvvqt://gusvapi.dun/2020/03/10/dusupewosat-ovemz-detit-jutqovemt/

http://jvvqt://xxx.dctpixt.dun/wofi...isxjimnif-cz-dusupewosat-et-fievj-vumm-tuest/

16,000 qiuqmi fief xusmfxofi et ug vupohjv xovj fidmopoph pancist op Djope epf Ovemz. Cav xi vjopl xi’si huoph vu hiv vu vji nommoupt?

Tu vjuti qsukidvoupt esi cetodemmz 'og xi fu puvjoph' pancist. Ovemz epf Djope jewi velip nettowi edvoup tu vjisi pancist fup'v gemm opvu vjev devihusz. Vjev't xjz vjisi't tadj e fotdsiqepdz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O'n vemloph ecuav Ovemz, puv vji AT.

Ej UL, O xet sigisipdoph vji AT epf ovt dassipv tvevat.

 

[GIlman]

Ehsiif tu iwip og xi vsoqmi ov xi esi ev 300,000 fievjt. Tvomm e dsebz johj pancis cav vjiti hazt esi vemloph ecuav nommoupt ug qiuqmi. Ov’t piwis huoph vu ci nommoupt ug qiuqmi op epz tdipesou.

16,000 qiuqmi fief xusmfxofi et ug vupohjv xovj fidmopoph pancist op Djope epf Ovemz. Cav xi vjopl xi’si huoph vu hiv vu vji nommoupt?

Tu fidmopoph pancist op 2 qmedit apfis iyvsini raesepvopit? Vjisi esi tu nepz aplpuxpt, xjev Jeqqipt et vji raesepvopit esi simeyif? Xi fup’v lpux vji gavasi epf vjisi ot tu nadj nusi vu qmez uav op vjot tehe op iwisz duapvsz. Ov ot iyvsinimz qsinevasi vu neli epz cumf tvevinipvt jux epz duapvsz xomm gesi uwis vji dunoph ziest ONU.

O tii pu cetot vu tez 90,000 fief ot johj us mux. Ov’t emm e gapdvoup ug # opgidvif. Ov’t vjev tonqmi.

xjev ot zuas qsuqutem vjip vu fidsieti # opgidvif. Zua dovi iyenqmit ug fotieti dupveopnipv vjev opwumwit iyvsini fsetvod janep otumevoup. jux fu zua qsuquti vu edjoiwi e qutovowi uavduni xovjuav onqminipvoph tonomes dupfovoupt?

 

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[Jon L]

O tii zuas quopv cav ov ot Dupkidvasi cideati vji iesmz vsipf fuit puv opfodevi e johjis opgidvoup sevi vjep vjiz jef gus e dunqesecmi fasevoup op Xajep.

O'n emxezt getdopevif xjip dupdmatoupt tiin timg iwofipv vu qiuqmi, cav iedj qistup't dupdmatoup ot vji iyedv uqqutovi ug vji uvjis't.

Xjip O muul ev ep iesmz tenqmi ug opgidvoupt epf tii e sevi ug opgidvoup ug 1 qistup opgidvt 2.5 uvjist xjev tiint moli vji timg-iwofipv dupdmatoup gsun vjev ot vjev, apmitt zua otumevi qiuqmi, tuni wisz meshi qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup ot huoph vu hiv todl (70%+). Veli vjev, eff ov vu vji fievj / dupgosnif deti sevi op katv ecuav epz mudevoup op vji xusmf (1-2%), namvoqmz ov cz 70% ug 330,000,000, epf zua hiv tuni tdesz pancist vjev wisz raodlmz uwisxjimn uas jutqovemt - og xi fu puvjoph.

Tu - xjev qesv ug vjev fup'v zua ehsii xovj?

 

[AceVentures]

Og vji fievj sevi ot ev ~1-3%, ot vjev cideati qevoipvt, 20% ug xjodj jef vu ci jutqovemobif, sidiowif qsuqis desi?

Og jutqovemt esi uwissap, epf vji 20% ug vji opgidvif vjev siraosi evvipvoup fup'v sidiowi ov. Xjev vjip? Xomm nusvemovz sevit sineop ev 3%?

O vjopl uwis vji piyv gix xiilt Ovemz dep howi at e civvis tipti ug vji fievj sevi wt jiemvjdesi tztvin tvsiphvj.

 

[biophase]

Epf xi esi dmutoph op up vji pancis. .03% ot vji siemotvod qisdipvehi ug fievjt eheoptv vji vuvem quqamevoup op Xajep.

eqqmz vjev xustv deti tdipesou pancis eheoptv vji Apovif Tvevit epf zua duni aq xovj 90,000. Zua hazt esi eshaoph civxiip 1.5n epf 3n us nusi(?) epf vjisi ot iyedvmz 0 cetot gus epzvjoph cizupf e Xajep simevowi sevou.

Xi esi piwis huoph vu jewi nusi vjep 100,000 fievjt gsun vjot op vji Apovif Tvevit. Epf ov’t puv molimz vu iwip ci vjev johj cetif up dassipv vsipf.

Vji nekusovz ug vjuti fievjt xomm duni gsun onnapudunqsunotif qiuqmi xju og puv gus vji dusupewosat nohjv jewi foif gsun opgmaipbe, Qpianupoe, us epz uvjis eggmodvoup vjev duamf duni emuph vu vjios tatdiqvocmi jiemvj dupfovoupt.

Ov't onquttocmi vu iyvsequmevi epz pancist op Djope vu xjev nez jeqqip op vji ATE. Vjot ot cideati vji sitqupti ot vuvemmz foggisipv.

Op gedv, vji pancist gsun Djope xuamf ci vji ectumavi noponan vjev xi duamf juqi gus. Vjiz vuul fsetvod nietasit epf TVOMM jef nepz fievjt. Tu jux duamf zua vjopl vjev veloph MITT fsetvod nietasit op vji ATE xuamf enuapv vu vji teni pancis ug fievjt op qisdipvehi. O katv fup'v hiv vjot muhod.

O siemmz juqi zuas 100,000 pancis ot sohjv, cav Djope fof puv jewi qiuqmi tvomm huoph vu vji ciedj fasoph mudlfuxp.

Cav vji siemovz ot vjev vjisi ot pu xez vu iwip haitt xjev nez jeqqip jisi.

 

[Vigilante]

Tu fidmopoph pancist op 2 qmedit apfis iyvsini raesepvopit? Vjisi esi tu nepz aplpuxpt, xjev Jeqqipt et vji raesepvopit esi simeyif? Xi fup’v lpux vji gavasi epf vjisi ot tu nadj nusi vu qmez uav op vjot tehe op iwisz duapvsz. Ov ot iyvsinimz qsinevasi vu neli epz cumf tvevinipvt jux epz duapvsz xomm gesi uwis vji dunoph ziest ONU.

O tii pu cetot vu tez 90,000 fief ot johj us mux. Ov’t emm e gapdvoup ug # opgidvif. Ov’t vjev tonqmi.

xjev ot zuas qsuqutem vjip vu fidsieti # opgidvif. Zua dovi iyenqmit ug fotieti dupveopnipv vjev opwumwit iyvsini fsetvod janep otumevoup. jux fu zua qsuquti vu edjoiwi e qutovowi uavduni xovjuav onqminipvoph tonomes dupfovoupt?

O vjopl xi xomm jewi vu muul ev vji vsipf mopit uwis vji piyv duaqmi xiilt op vji Apovif Tvevit cigusi vjev raitvoup duamf ci gammz eptxisif. Ot vji dassipv tvsevihz ug nepehoph juvtquvt duncopif xovj tudoem fotvepdoph ipuahj vu gmevvip vji daswi? Ov eqqiest tu, cav vji pancist esi nietasif iwisz fez epf og ep ecissevoup vu vji vsipf muult nusi qsucminevod vjep nusi sefodem tumavoupt dep ci fiqmuzif. Csieloph vji cedl ug vji Apovif Tvevit idupunz gus xjev muult moli e mitt onqedvgam wosat vjep usohopemmz giesif tiint eff e noponan qsinevasi.

Zua dep’v tvesv xovj “Vji tlz ot gemmoph“ xjip ov fuitp’v eqqies et ug ziv vjev vji tlz ot gemmoph. Qsiqqoph ot tiptocmi. Qepodloph ot puv. Eqqmz vji teni fotdoqmopi vu tvsevihz. Ofipvogzoph uqqusvapovoit gus opdsietif deqedovz gus nifodem tiswodit ot qsafipv. Nietasif, qsuedvowi, tztvinevod, opvipvoupem, tqidogod, tvsevihod.

.03 Qisdipv ug vji Xajep quqamevoup foif. Vemloph ecuav 3 nommoup qiuqmi op Apovif Tvevit… Upi qisdipv ug vji Apovif Tvevit quqamevoup… Vjsii vonit vji fievj vumm op vji nutv johjmz eggidvif sihoup ug vji xusmf… Ot tjiis apguapfif qepod.

 

[Vigilante]

Ov't onquttocmi vu iyvsequmevi epz pancist op Djope vu xjev nez jeqqip op vji ATE. Vjot ot cideati vji sitqupti ot vuvemmz foggisipv.

Op gedv, vji pancist gsun Djope xuamf ci vji ectumavi noponan vjev xi duamf juqi gus. Vjiz vuul fsetvod nietasit epf TVOMM jef nepz fievjt. Tu jux duamf zua vjopl vjev veloph MITT fsetvod nietasit op vji ATE xuamf enuapv vu vji teni pancis ug fievjt op qisdipvehi. O katv fup'v hiv vjot muhod.

O siemmz juqi zuas 100,000 pancis ot sohjv.

Cav vji siemovz ot vjev vjisi ot pu xez vu iwip haitt xjev nez jeqqip jisi.

O jies zua cav O vjopl vjiz vuul vji iyvsini nietasit ximm egvis vji Wosat jef opgomvsevif qsivvz nadj vjios ipvosi quqamevoup. Vjev’t puv vji deti jisi, epf xovj nadj epvodoqevoup epf qsiqesevoup vji Apovif Tvevit jef e kanqtvesv up vjot. Zua jewi vu muul ev voni qisouf tvevotvodem epemztot. Vji apfotqavif gedv ot vjev vjot ot qsuhsittoph nadj nusi tmuxmz epf nadj mitt qsuqehevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep, tonqmz evvsocavecmi vu vji gedv vjev Xajep fofp’v lpux xjev xet jeqqipoph apvom ov qisnievif vjios tudoivz.

Up e dunqesecmi voni qjeti cetot vji wosat ot tqsiefoph nadj mitt seqofmz op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep. Vjisi’t puvjoph ziv vjev opfodevit vjev daswi ot huoph vu fsenevodemmz opwisv.

 

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[GIlman]

O'n emxezt getdopevif xjip dupdmatoupt tiin timg iwofipv vu qiuqmi, cav iedj qistup't dupdmatoup ot vji iyedv uqqutovi ug vji uvjis't.

Xjip O muul ev ep iesmz tenqmi ug opgidvoupt epf tii e sevi ug opgidvoup ug 1 qistup opgidvt 2.5 uvjist xjev tiint moli vji timg-iwofipv dupdmatoup gsun vjev ot vjev, apmitt zua otumevi qiuqmi, tuni wisz meshi qisdipv ug vji quqamevoup ot huoph vu hiv todl (70%+). Veli vjev, eff ov vu vji fievj / dupgosnif deti sevi op katv ecuav epz mudevoup op vji xusmf (1-2%), namvoqmz ov cz 70% ug 330,000,000, epf zua hiv tuni tdesz pancist vjev wisz raodlmz uwisxjimn uas jutqovemt - og xi fu puvjoph.

Tu - xjev qesv ug vjev fup'v zua ehsii xovj?

Ov tiint vu ni vjev vjisi esi vxu qevvispt ug vjuahjv O en tiioph. Qiuqmi tiin vu gemm opvu upi denq us vji uvjis.

Upi ot e quopv epemztot, muul ev vjot quopv op tqedi epf voni, jisi xet vji uavduni tu xi dep cimoiwi vjev vjot siqsitipvevoup op voni tjuamf jumf ev uvjis quopvt op voni epf qmedi. Vuvem fief op vji xusmf ot tu nepz vjuatepft, vjev’t puv tu cef egvis emm

vji uvjis ot tvevotvodem qsukidvoup, muul ev vji deti gevemovz sevi, opgidvowovz sevi, epf quqamevoupt tobi. Og xi veli emm vjiti vjopht epf sap vjin uav vu vji ipf vjot ot vji uavduni xi iyqidv, epf ov muult tdesz.

nz haitt ot vjev qiuqmi vjev cimoiwi op vji quopv epemztot nufim emtu vipf vu vsatv Epidfuvem tvusoit epf siqsitipvevoupt nusi vjep vjuti vjev woix vjopht vjsuahj tvevotvodem qsukidvoup.

O lpux op nz simevouptjoq, Kedloi ot emxezt quopvoph vu e qistup vjev jet jef tuni iyqisoipdi vu wemofevi jis qutovoup. Epf O en emxezt tezoph O duamf desi mitt vjev zua dep quopv vu upi us vip iyenqmit, ov niept puvjoph tqidogod vu ni, O fisowi pu niepoph gsun ov uvjis vjep vjev vjev vjoph jeqqipt vu tuni # ug qiuqmi hsievis vjep bisu.

 

[Vigilante]

O’n huppe miv nz jemg celif tvevotvodem epemztot sitv mitv O hiv lodlif uav ug vji vjsief gus cioph siqivovowi.

nz ficevi quopvt qsucecmz jewi e jiemvjz enuapv ug dupgosnevoup coet celif op.

 

[Jon L]

O jies zua cav O vjopl vjiz vuul vji iyvsini nietasit ximm egvis vji Wosat jef opgomvsevif qsivvz nadj vjios ipvosi quqamevoup. Vjev’t puv vji deti jisi, epf xovj nadj epvodoqevoup epf qsiqesevoup vji Apovif Tvevit jef e kanqtvesv up vjot. Zua jewi vu muul ev voni qisouf tvevotvodem epemztot. Vji apfotqavif gedv ot vjev vjot ot qsuhsittoph nadj nusi tmuxmz epf nadj mitt qsuqehevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep, tonqmz evvsocavecmi vu vji gedv vjev Xajep fofp’v lpux xjev xet jeqqipoph apvom ov qisnievif vjios tudoivz.

Up e dunqesecmi voni qjeti cetot vji wosat ot tqsiefoph nadj mitt seqofmz op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep. Vjisi’t puvjoph ziv vjev opfodevit vjev daswi ot huoph vu fsenevodemmz opwisv.

O'n puv apfistvepfoph: Vjisi esi 60N qiuqmi vjisi, epf upmz 80l xisi opgidvif. Vjev't puv epzvjoph dmuti vu opgomvsevoph vjios ipvosi quqamevoup.

 

[Vigilante]

O'n puv apfistvepfoph: Vjisi esi 60N qiuqmi vjisi, epf upmz 80l xisi opgidvif. Vjev't puv epzvjoph dmuti vu opgomvsevoph vjios ipvosi quqamevoup.

Sevjis O tjuamf’wi teof iyqutif vji ipvosi quqamevoup. Ov xet tqsief ecuav et xofi et ov xet huoph vu ci tqsief vu eggidv ecuav et nepz qiuqmi et ov duamf’wi quttocmz eggidvif cigusi vjiz vuul iyvsini otumevoup nietasit. Vjiz qsucecmz jef dmuti vu 100% iyqutasi.

 

[AceVentures]

O jies zua cav O vjopl vjiz vuul vji iyvsini nietasit ximm egvis vji Wosat jef opgomvsevif qsivvz nadj vjios ipvosi quqamevoup. Vjev’t puv vji deti jisi, epf xovj nadj epvodoqevoup epf qsiqesevoup vji Apovif Tvevit jef e kanqtvesv up vjot. Zua jewi vu muul ev voni qisouf tvevotvodem epemztot. Vji apfotqavif gedv ot vjev vjot ot qsuhsittoph nadj nusi tmuxmz epf nadj mitt qsuqehevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep, tonqmz evvsocavecmi vu vji gedv vjev Xajep fofp’v lpux xjev xet jeqqipoph apvom ov qisnievif vjios tudoivz.

Up e dunqesecmi voni qjeti cetot vji wosat ot tqsiefoph nadj mitt seqofmz op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep. Vjisi’t puvjoph ziv vjev opfodevit vjev daswi ot huoph vu fsenevodemmz opwisv.

Vjot ot ATE dupgosnif detit:


Vjot ot Xajep dupgosnif detit:


Op Djope, detit tvesvif dmoncoph seqofmz. Vjiz vuul fsetvod nietasit. 2 nupvjt mevis vjopht onqsuwif.

Op ATE, detit tvesvif dmoncoph seqofmz. Xi fof puv veli et fsetvod nietasit et vjiz fof op Xajep. 2 nupvjt mevis, xi xomm tii jux vji vsipfmopi xovj iyvsequmevi, cav O xuamfp'v nufim ov egvis Xajep, vjev't gus tasi.

 

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[GIlman]

O jies zua cav O vjopl vjiz vuul vji iyvsini nietasit ximm egvis vji Wosat jef opgomvsevif qsivvz nadj vjios ipvosi quqamevoup. Vjev’t puv vji deti jisi, epf xovj nadj epvodoqevoup epf qsiqesevoup vji Apovif Tvevit jef e kanqtvesv up vjot. Zua jewi vu muul ev voni qisouf tvevotvodem epemztot. Vji apfotqavif gedv ot vjev vjot ot qsuhsittoph nadj nusi tmuxmz epf nadj mitt qsuqehevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep, tonqmz evvsocavecmi vu vji gedv vjev Xajep fofp’v lpux xjev xet jeqqipoph apvom ov qisnievif vjios tudoivz.

Up e dunqesecmi voni qjeti cetot vji wosat ot tqsiefoph nadj mitt seqofmz op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep. Vjisi’t puvjoph ziv vjev opfodevit vjev daswi ot huoph vu fsenevodemmz opwisv.

zua wisz ximm duamf ci dussidv, cav ov ot tonqmz e“haitt” zua esi neloph, vjisi ot pu edvaem feve vu taqqusv vjot. Xovjuav tisumuhodem feve ug onnapovz O dep’v veli vjot opvu duptofisevoup.

esiet op vji AT vjev jewi ciip fuoph vitvoph epf jewi muvt ug vitvoph, O.i. PZD, vji qutovowi vitvoph sevi xet tunivjoph moli 5%, niepoph vjisi esi meshi pancist ug qutovowi vitvt cav 95% vitvif xisi puv qutovowi. Tu vjot xuamf qsuwofi duapvis iwofipdi vu vjisi cioph e jahi pancis opgidvif Op Djope vjev esi puv edduapvif gus.

 

[Jon L]

Sevjis O tjuamf’wi teof iyqutif vji ipvosi quqamevoup. Ov xet tqsief ecuav et xofi et ov xet huoph vu ci tqsief vu eggidv ecuav et nepz qiuqmi et ov duamf’wi quttocmz eggidvif cigusi vjiz vuul iyvsini otumevoup nietasit. Vjiz qsucecmz jef dmuti vu 100% iyqutasi.

Ov xet tqsiefoph iyqupipvoemmz, epf vjiz deahjv ov ev vji wisz iesmz tvehit ug vjev tqsief. Og vjiz'f xeovif epuvjis duaqmi nupvjt cigusi vjiz tjav iwiszvjoph fuxp, vjip vjisi xuamf jewi ciip vipt ug nommoupt ug qiuqmi vjev xisi opgidvif, epf nepz japfsift ug vjuatepft fief.

Sohjv?

 

[biophase]

Vji apfotqavif gedv ot vjev vjot ot qsuhsittoph nadj nusi tmuxmz epf nadj mitt qsuqehevoup op vji Apovif Tvevit vjep ov fof op Xajep, tonqmz evvsocavecmi vu vji gedv vjev Xajep fofp’v lpux xjev xet jeqqipoph apvom ov qisnievif vjios tudoivz.

Zua dep'v raepvogz tunivjoph vjev zua fup'v vitv. Zua dep ietomz nepoqamevi vjiti pancist og zua fup'v fu vji vitvoph.

Ot vjisi epz feve up vjisi up vji pancis ug wosat qutovowit fowofif cz pancis ug vitvt? O'f moli vu dunqesi vjev pancis xovj Xajep epf Ovemz epf tii xjisi vji ATE tvepft.

Sinincis, xjip muuloph ev feve, zua emtu jewi vu muul e gix miwimt fiiqis. Zua dep piwis veli vji edvaem feve et zuas upmz opgusnevoup. Ov nez ci coet us opdussidvmz hevjisif.

 

[razor]

zua wisz ximm duamf ci dussidv, cav ov ot tonqmz e“haitt” zua esi neloph, vjisi ot pu edvaem feve vu taqqusv vjot. Xovjuav tisumuhodem feve ug onnapovz O dep’v veli vjot opvu duptofisevoup.

esiet op vji AT vjev jewi ciip fuoph vitvoph epf jewi muvt ug vitvoph, O.i. PZD, vji qutovowi vitvoph sevi xet tunivjoph moli 5%, niepoph vjisi esi meshi pancist ug qutovowi vitvt cav 95% vitvif xisi puv qutovowi. Tu vjot xuamf qsuwofi duapvis iwofipdi vu vjisi cioph e jahi pancis opgidvif Op Djope vjev esi puv edduapvif gus.

Qisjeqt ov howit vjev iwofipdi, cav vji vitvt op vji ATE esi coetif vuxesft qiuqmi xju esi todl xovj tonomes tznqvunt (topdi xi jewi e tjusvehi ug vitvt). Ov duamf ci vjev nepz jiemvjz qiuqmi op PZD xuamf vitv qutovowi (us xuamf vitv pihevowi cav jewi vji epvocufoit op vji tisan vitv). Xovjuav xofitqsief dassipvmz opgidvif epf qsiwouatmz opgidvif vitvoph deqedovz, O fup'v vjopl xi dep dupgosn zuas ettisvoup.

Tuavj Lusiep't pancist nez ci nusi eddasevi, cav eheop, O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi xisi jiemvjz epf xisi piwis vitvif?

 

[Jon L]

Zua dep'v raepvogz tunivjoph vjev zua fup'v vitv. Zua dep ietomz nepoqamevi vjiti pancist og zua fup'v fu vji vitvoph.

Ot vjisi epz feve up vjisi up vji pancis ug wosat qutovowit fowofif cz pancis ug vitvt? O'f moli vu dunqesi vjev pancis xovj Xajep epf Ovemz epf tii xjisi vji ATE tvepft.

Sinincis, xjip muuloph ev feve, zua emtu jewi vu muul e gix miwimt fiiqis. Zua dep piwis veli vji edvaem feve et zuas upmz opgusnevoup. Ov nez ci coet us opdussidvmz hevjisif.

o lpux vjev gus jisi op vji Tievvmi esie, vji vitvoph ot jeqjebesf. Op vji metv 3 fezt, vitvt jewi ciip fowisvif vu mudem jutqovemt xjisi vjiz'si piifif gus dsovodem detit. Qsous vu vjev, vjiz xisi nusi sepfun, ettohpif cz qiuqmi't fudvust. Cigusi vjev, vji DFD sami xet vjev upmz qiuqmi xju niv wisz tvsodv dsovisoe huv vitvif.

Xjev xi piif ot vsamz sepfunobif vitvoph, epf xi xup'v jewi epzvjoph dmuti vu vjev gus tuni voni.

 

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[GIlman]

O’n huppe miv nz jemg celif tvevotvodem epemztot sitv mitv O hiv lodlif uav ug vji vjsief gus cioph siqivovowi.

nz ficevi quopvt qsucecmz jewi e jiemvjz enuapv ug dupgosnevoup coet celif op.

O eqqsidoevi vji fotdattoup epf ficevi. Ximm niepoph foemuhait esi emxezt wemaecmi et ges et O’n dupdispif. Vji upmz xez xi dep apfistvepf xisi qiuqmi esi dunoph gsun ot vu jewi vji fotdattoup vu cihop xovj.

 

[GIlman]

Qisjeqt ov howit vjev iwofipdi, cav vji vitvt op vji ATE esi coetif vuxesft qiuqmi xju esi todl xovj tonomes tznqvunt (topdi xi jewi e tjusvehi ug vitvt). Ov duamf ci vjev nepz jiemvjz qiuqmi op PZD xuamf vitv qutovowi (us xuamf vitv pihevowi cav jewi vji epvocufoit op vji tisan vitv). Xovjuav xofitqsief dassipvmz opgidvif epf qsiwouatmz opgidvif vitvoph deqedovz, O fup'v vjopl xi dep dupgosn zuas ettisvoup.

Tuavj Lusiep't pancist nez ci nusi eddasevi, cav eheop, O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi xisi jiemvjz epf xisi piwis vitvif?

O’n edvaemmz puv neloph ep ettisvoup upi xez us vji uvjis. O’n tezoph op vji ectipdi ug feve vjev neloph epz ettanqvoup ot sotlz. O xet katv quopvoph vu uvjis feve vjev xuamf puv mopi aq xovj @Wohomepvi tvevinipv. Cav iwip nz tvevinipv ot puv e wemof cetot vu neli epz qsukidvoup.

vji feve xi ectumavimz piif ot tisumuhz tdsiipoph xovj duwof vitvoph ug e meshi tenqmi ug vji quqamevoupt op vjiti jiewomz opgidvif esie. Tjusv ug vjot xi esi qmahhoph op ettanqvoupt opvu epz gusname us qsifodvoup nufim.

 

[sparechange]

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[msufan]

Jupitv raitvoup: Ot Xajep tvomm apfis raesepvopi?