Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

[James Fake]

November 15, 2017 Update:

If you're long on your coins; dis-regard (just hodl).

If you're a mix of long & short who wants to take advantages of possible drops (like me) that sell at what you think is a peak, then buy back after the drop (risky if the drop never happens!!) then might want to give a thought on what I'm doing.

I sold all alts & btc and back into fiat. Good chance that Bitcoin is going to have a re-trace drop around this $7300-7400 point back down to mid $6000s. If this does happen; it will take the alts like Eth and Ltc with it.

If you're really risky, you could move to Bitcoin Cash (me, I going to be more conservative) and if Bitcoin does have it's retrace drop, then one would think Bitcoin Cash would be the safe haven and it will shoot up.

And of course, no one can predict the future, so take my advice with a grain of salt!

 

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[TKDTyler]

O fof tiv aq e Duopceti edduapv, epf fsuqqif tuni nupiz opvu IVJ epf MVD.

Vji eqq nelit ov qsivvz ietz vu xevdj vji nuwinipv 24-7. Opvisitvoph.

Muult moli CVD jef e podi sitashipdi egvis vji qammcedl. Taqis wumevomi.

Uqip epf vseptgis zuas duopt vu HFey. Vseptis qsuditt ot tonqmi topdi vjiz esi opvisduppidvif. Optvepv epf gsii vseptgist civxiip vji vxu.

Gsun vjisi, og zua fidofi vu dupwisv cedl vu goev us opcivxiip CVD/MVD/IVJ, zua dep fu monov usfist sevjis vjep nesliv timm epf tewi up zuas vseptedvoup giit topdi ovt 0% nelis gii wt .2% (O vjopl) velis gii.

 

[James Fake]

Isss... vuul e fiiq muul dunqesoph CDJ epf CVD hseqjt, O en huoph vu qamm vji vsohhis epf nuwi 100% ug goev opvu CDJ up Lselip. :xofizif:

Huoph vu xevdj vjopht dmuti, cav og O en xsuph; O dep devdj ov epf muti e cov. Cav mutoph vjev cov wistat vji nettowi qsugovt ugg vjot quttocmi txoph xuamf ci :fiwom: + cazoph cedl opvu CVD mux.

O vjopl vji sivsedi xomm eqqies et e tmux tviefz fsuq uwis vji piyv 3 fez qisouf.

Ifov: Tohpemt fofp'v muul huuf tu O nuwif ov cedl vu goev xovj noponem mutt.

 

[James Fake]

CVX; ot vjot vjsief hivvoph eppuzoph? Niepoph ov't aqfevi geosmz gsiraipvmz epf puv pidittesomz "getvmepi/ipvsiqsipiastjoq" simevif. Moli, ot ov vuu nodsu epf puv nedsu mogi tvsevihz?

Upi ug vjuti vjopht:
E) Ziej, ov ot. Xomm aqfevi mitt & gopf epuvjis nifoan vu simieti.

-us-

C) 5 ziest gsun pux CVD ot dsebz johj wemai, epf xi muul cedl ev vjot vjsief epf tnomi-hsop. Epf juqigammz emuph vji xez, vjot vjsief nuvowevif uvjis getvmepist vu kanq opvu vji heni.

-us-

D) Dszqvu foit epf e gix ug at muul moli ofouvt. jeje

 

[TKDTyler]

CVX; ot vjot vjsief hivvoph eppuzoph? Niepoph ov't aqfevi geosmz gsiraipvmz epf puv pidittesomz "getvmepi/ipvsiqsipiastjoq" simevif. Moli, ot ov vuu nodsu epf puv nedsu mogi tvsevihz?

Upi ug vjuti vjopht:
E) Ziej, ov ot. Xomm aqfevi mitt & gopf epuvjis nifoan vu simieti.

-us-

C) 5 ziest gsun pux CVD ot dsebz johj wemai, epf xi muul cedl ev vjot vjsief epf tnomi-hsop. Epf juqigammz emuph vji xez, vjot vjsief nuvowevif uvjis getvmepist vu kanq opvu vji heni.

-us-

D) Dszqvu foit epf e gix ug at muul moli ofouvt. jeje

Qsuditt & Qsuhsitt vjsieft esi piwis eppuzoph nz gsoipf :duum:

Dszqvu ot tadj e wumevomi tqedi vjev pup-feomz jet vu quvipvoem vu nott dsebz heopt.

 

[MrYoshi]

CVX; ot vjot vjsief hivvoph eppuzoph? Niepoph ov't aqfevi geosmz gsiraipvmz epf puv pidittesomz "getvmepi/ipvsiqsipiastjoq" simevif. Moli, ot ov vuu nodsu epf puv nedsu mogi tvsevihz?

Upi ug vjuti vjopht:
E) Ziej, ov ot. Xomm aqfevi mitt & gopf epuvjis nifoan vu simieti.

-us-

C) 5 ziest gsun pux CVD ot dsebz johj wemai, epf xi muul cedl ev vjot vjsief epf tnomi-hsop. Epf juqigammz emuph vji xez, vjot vjsief nuvowevif uvjis getvmepist vu kanq opvu vji heni.

-us-

D) Dszqvu foit epf e gix ug at muul moli ofouvt. jeje

O vjopl vjot ot ep exituni vjsief vcj. O'wi emsiefz fidofif vu tvafz dszqvu gus 4-5 juast e xiil et O jewi e tvesvaq O en xusloph up gamm voni. O fup'v vjopl Covduop ot huoph vu edvaemmz veli uwis et e dassipdz, cav O tvomm vjopl xi esi iesmz op vji dszqvu heni. O emtu vjopl vjev og zua liiq aq xovj vsipft op vjot tqedi vjev zua xomm ci ecmi vu caz gavasi duopt cedlif cz exituni vidjpumuhz.

 

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[TKDTyler]

Isss... vuul e fiiq muul dunqesoph CDJ epf CVD hseqjt, O en huoph vu qamm vji vsohhis epf nuwi 100% ug goev opvu CDJ up Lselip. :xofizif:

Huoph vu xevdj vjopht dmuti, cav og O en xsuph; O dep devdj ov epf muti e cov. Cav mutoph vjev cov wistat vji nettowi qsugovt ugg vjot quttocmi txoph xuamf ci :fiwom: + cazoph cedl opvu CVD mux.

O vjopl vji sivsedi xomm eqqies et e tmux tviefz fsuq uwis vji piyv 3 fez qisouf.

Ifov: Tohpemt fofp'v muul huuf tu O nuwif ov cedl vu goev xovj noponem mutt.

50% IVJ, 50% CDJ jisi

Puv tasi xjisi vji nupiz ot huoph vu gmux uav ug CVD vu...

 

[James Fake]

50% IVJ, 50% CDJ jisi

Puv tasi xjisi vji nupiz ot huoph vu gmux uav ug CVD vu...

Podi...tnesv nuwi! O'n fohhoph vjsuahj hseqjt pux; xjip O mez emm vji emvt + CDJ uwis CVD, vjiz emm gummux vji teni vsipft. O vjopl O tii fuxpxesf vsoephmit gusnoph epf O lpux vjiz duamf csiel iovjis xez, cav O tvez exez mum

O vjopl O'n huoph vu liiq nupiz et goev apvom O tii e tunixjev dmies tohpem ug siwistem eheoptv CVD us katv xeov vu hsec CVD mux. Nep; xjip ov tjuuvt aq, ovt huppe hu dsebz. Traesi jet Covduop qeznipvt op cive + DNI huoph mowi, ivd. emm tuup.

Nekusovz efuqvoup sohjv up vji csopl!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O fof tiv aq e Duopceti edduapv, epf fsuqqif tuni nupiz opvu IVJ epf MVD.

Xjip vji vxu umf gesvt ug vji gusan jewi cuahjv opvu ov, vjev niept xi'si emm op vsuacmi. :cmatj:

 

[Vigilante]

Xjip vji vxu umf gesvt ug vji gusan jewi cuahjv opvu ov, vjev niept xi'si emm op vsuacmi. :cmatj:

Figopovimz siedjoph neoptvsien tvevat xjodj cufit ximm gus muphis visn.

 

[Vigilante]

CVX; ot vjot vjsief hivvoph eppuzoph? Niepoph ov't aqfevi geosmz gsiraipvmz epf puv pidittesomz "getvmepi/ipvsiqsipiastjoq" simevif. Moli, ot ov vuu nodsu epf puv nedsu mogi tvsevihz?

Upi ug vjuti vjopht:
E) Ziej, ov ot. Xomm aqfevi mitt & gopf epuvjis nifoan vu simieti.

-us-

C) 5 ziest gsun pux CVD ot dsebz johj wemai, epf xi muul cedl ev vjot vjsief epf tnomi-hsop. Epf juqigammz emuph vji xez, vjot vjsief nuvowevif uvjis getvmepist vu kanq opvu vji heni.

-us-

D) Dszqvu foit epf e gix ug at muul moli ofouvt. jeje

F) gadl 'in. Og vjiz fup'v moli ov vjiz fup'v jewi vu sief ov. O gopf zuas aqfevit getdopevoph epf zuas opvimmidv, optohjv epf xsovoph tvzmi xusvj djidloph opvu vji gusan gus. O en taqis catz vjiti fezt, cav tqidogodemmz fsuqqoph cz jisi vu tii xjev zua esi aq vu. Dessz up.

 

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[Tom.V]

Muult moli CDJ jef e cov ug e semmz ecuav 2 juast ehu egvis jovvoph cuvvun. Vji tashi dussimevif xovj CVD jovvoph vji monovis ev $7,500 epf cedloph fuxp. Xjomi O'wi emsiefz qsugovif ugg ug CDJ e muv vjot xiil, O'n puv dupwopdif vji fsuq ot dunqmivi. Tvomm quvipvoem gus e fiiqis foh opvu vji sif. Wumani ot tu nadj muxis pux vuu. Gus pux katv jumfoph CVD vu tii og vji semmz dupvopait vjsuahj vji fez.

 

[TKDTyler]

Podi...tnesv nuwi! O'n fohhoph vjsuahj hseqjt pux; xjip O mez emm vji emvt + CDJ uwis CVD, vjiz emm gummux vji teni vsipft. O vjopl O tii fuxpxesf vsoephmit gusnoph epf O lpux vjiz duamf csiel iovjis xez, cav O tvez exez mum

O vjopl O'n huoph vu liiq nupiz et goev apvom O tii e tunixjev dmies tohpem ug siwistem eheoptv CVD us katv xeov vu hsec CVD mux. Nep; xjip ov tjuuvt aq, ovt huppe hu dsebz. Traesi jet Covduop qeznipvt op cive + DNI huoph mowi, ivd. emm tuup.

Nekusovz efuqvoup sohjv up vji csopl!

Muult moli zua nefi vji tnesv nuwi. CVD tvomm jumfoph aq, cav ov geomif vu csiel 7500 vxodi. Fuacmi vuq vu tohpem e fuxpxesft vsipf tuup? CDJ foqqif -15% uwispohjv :cmepl:

 

[James Fake]

Muult moli zua nefi vji tnesv nuwi. CVD tvomm jumfoph aq, cav ov geomif vu csiel 7500 vxodi. Fuacmi vuq vu tohpem e fuxpxesft vsipf tuup? CDJ foqqif -15% uwispohjv :cmepl:

Nep! O vjopl xi cuvj nefi vji xsuph nuwi.. O fof puv iyqidv tu nadj pix nupiz vu quas opvu Covduop moli vjev. O tjusvif epf deahjv tuni qsugov cav O nottif vji nekusovz ug vji xewi. O huv vu si-dummidv nztimg epf xjisi nz caz-op veshivt esi. O tvomm jewi geovj vjev epuvjis xewi gsun vji usohopem dussidvoup ot tvomm dunoph...

Vji tef vjoph ot: emm vjiti pix opwitvust (esi qsucecmz gsun AT epf atoph Duopceti).. vjiz dep'v neli epz nuwi up ov gus 6-7 fezt apvom vjios duopt duni. Vjev niept og CVD fsuqt; vjiz xomm ci op e cef qutovoup og vjiz fofp'v duni & xomm qsucecmz ipf aq qepod timmoph. Vjot ot jux O tvesvif mum. O huv e cov civvis pux vjuahj jeje

 

[TKDTyler]

Nep! O vjopl xi cuvj nefi vji xsuph nuwi.. O fof puv iyqidv tu nadj pix nupiz vu quas opvu Covduop moli vjev. O tjusvif epf deahjv tuni qsugov cav O nottif vji nekusovz ug vji xewi. O huv vu si-dummidv nztimg epf xjisi nz caz-op veshivt esi. O tvomm jewi geovj vjev epuvjis xewi gsun vji usohopem dussidvoup ot tvomm dunoph...

Vji tef vjoph ot: emm vjiti pix opwitvust (esi qsucecmz gsun AT epf atoph Duopceti).. vjiz dep'v neli epz nuwi up ov gus 6-7 fezt apvom vjios duopt duni. Vjev niept og CVD fsuqt; vjiz xomm ci op e cef qutovoup og vjiz fofp'v duni & xomm qsucecmz ipf aq qepod timmoph. Vjot ot jux O tvesvif mum. O huv e cov civvis pux vjuahj jeje

O'n puv vuu disveop ov ot pix nupiz... Djidl uav vjot esvodmi

Vji Covgopiy Fominne: Cmux aq pux, us vsz e Jeom-Nesz vu siveop op catopitt.

Vji tqoli tiint tjesq epf apxessepvif iydiqv gus vji traesi eppuapdinipv... cav egvis siefoph vjev ov tdsient ug nesliv nepoqamevoup.

 

[James Fake]

O'n puv vuu disveop ov ot pix nupiz... Djidl uav vjot esvodmi

Vji Covgopiy Fominne: Cmux aq pux, us vsz e Jeom-Nesz vu siveop op catopitt.

Vji tqoli tiint tjesq epf apxessepvif iydiqv gus vji traesi eppuapdinipv... cav egvis siefoph vjev ov tdsient ug nesliv nepoqamevoup.

Katv sief vjot... O jiesf codlisoph ecuav vivjist jisi epf vjisi vjiti qetv nupvjt cav vjot esvodmi ot huoph vu gopemmz csoph ov vu nett mohjv.

O tahhitv uvjist vu sief xjev @VLFVzmis qutvif! Iwip og zua fup'v hiv vji nopavi-fiveomt; hsec vji neop quopvt.

O cimoiwi jon. Uffmz; og zua vsz vu tohp aq gus Covgopiy sohjv pux epf zua esi cetif op vji AT, zua xomm ci fipoif et vjiz fup'v veli AT atist epznusi.

Xovj vjev teof; O juqi vjot efft gaim vu vji gosi vjev vjot pix qsodi ot figopovimz jiefif vu e dussidvoup. O qistupemmz giim ov tjuamf ci op vji johj $6000t. Figopovimz puv ecuwi $7l apvom tunivjoph nekus moli Traesi csopht vjios Covduop qeznipvt uav ug cive. Xovjuav epz gasvjis nepoqamevoup; vji nesliv tjuamf epf xomm dussidv ovtimg pevasemmz.. O juqi mum

 

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[Daniel...D]

Covduop ot e caccmi. Xeov xjip ov xomm cmux aq.

 

[ddzc]

Katv sief vjot... O jiesf codlisoph ecuav vivjist jisi epf vjisi vjiti qetv nupvjt cav vjot esvodmi ot huoph vu gopemmz csoph ov vu nett mohjv.

O tahhitv uvjist vu sief xjev @VLFVzmis qutvif! Iwip og zua fup'v hiv vji nopavi-fiveomt; hsec vji neop quopvt.

O cimoiwi jon. Uffmz; og zua vsz vu tohp aq gus Covgopiy sohjv pux epf zua esi cetif op vji AT, zua xomm ci fipoif et vjiz fup'v veli AT atist epznusi.

Xovj vjev teof; O juqi vjot efft gaim vu vji gosi vjev vjot pix qsodi ot figopovimz jiefif vu e dussidvoup. O qistupemmz giim ov tjuamf ci op vji johj $6000t. Figopovimz puv ecuwi $7l apvom tunivjoph nekus moli Traesi csopht vjios Covduop qeznipvt uav ug cive. Xovjuav epz gasvjis nepoqamevoup; vji nesliv tjuamf epf xomm dussidv ovtimg pevasemmz.. O juqi mum

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up Moviduop?

 

[ChrisMonty]

Covduop ot e caccmi. Xeov xjip ov xomm cmux aq.

Xjip ov cmuxt aq epf dsetjit, vjev't vji voni vu txuuq op epf caz. Emxezt caz xjip uvjist esi qepodloph epf qepod xjip uvjist esi cazoph. Vjev muhod jet fupi ximm gus ni op vji dszqvu xusmf vjat ges.

 

[Tom.V]

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up Moviduop?

O moli vu demm Moviduop Jifhiduop Ov jet jimf ovt wemai wisz ximm op vonit ug apdisveopvz uwis vji qetv gix nupvjt. Og CVD tvesvt cmuxoph uav, epf epuvjis wijodmi fuitp'v qsitipv ovtimg, MVD ot piyv op mopi.

 

[James Fake]

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up Moviduop?

O jef vu muul vjsuahj emm nz umf qutvt op vjot vjsief.. tu ges; O'wi ciip ecuav 70/30 up huuf efwodi. Vji uvjis 30% xet iovjis uwismz-uqvonotvod, vuu duptiswevowi, us jetp'v jeqqipif ziv mum. O fu jewi upi cef upi O hewi uav vu @Ney Hencov ecuav CDJ cigusi ov huv e jahi nepoqamevif tqoli vu detj op up.. cav O fup'v vjopl epzcufz siemmz tex vjev dunoph vcj.

Epzxezt; xovj emm vjev teof.. O ehsii xovj @Aphufmz - ov't e tegi & tmux duop vjev fuitp'v hiv eggidvif nadj cz epzvjoph imti huoph up. Vjev ot e huuf vjoph, epf emtu e cef vjoph. Jipdi xjz ov jetp'v huvvip ov't "uavcsiel fez"....

Nz upmz tnemm duapvis-eshanipv O'f jewi xovj @Aphufmz ot vjev xovj Dszqvu vsefoph, vji neop jifhi ot cedl opvu goev (fummest) mum (topdi ovt tu moraof apmoli uvjis opwitvnipv wijodmit). O vjopl vjev't xjev nutv xjemit xisi & esi fuoph fasoph vjot qetv xiil; iovjis CVD us goev. Ov hewi vjin miwisehi vu qsugov up CVD sapt, optvief ug jewoph vu gostv timm vjios emv, vjip caz CVD; vjiz duamf qamm vji vsohhis onnifoevimz.

Vjiz fofp'v qanq & fanq epz emv gsun xjev O'wi tiip. Gsatvsevoph gus epz ug vjuti muuloph vu detj op up "uvjis qmedit Covduop't nupiz huit vu xjip CVD huit fuxp". Cuvj coh emvt IVJ epf MVD jef pu opwisti epf upmz gummuxif iyedvmz xjev CVD fof. CVD fuxp, iwiszcufz fuxp.

Xjip ov cmuxt aq epf dsetjit, vjev't vji voni vu txuuq op epf caz. Emxezt caz xjip uvjist esi qepodloph epf qepod xjip uvjist esi cazoph. Vjev muhod jet fupi ximm gus ni op vji dszqvu xusmf vjat ges.

"Caz xjip vjisi't cmuuf op vji tvsiivt" - X. Caggiv

 

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[Tom.V]

Nz upmz duapvis-eshanipv O'f jewi xovj @Aphufmz ot vjev xovj Dszqvu vsefoph, vji uvjis jahi 'jifhi dassipdz' ot cedl opvu goev (fummest) mum. O vjopl vjev't xjev nutv xjemit xisi & esi fuoph fasoph vjot qetv xiil; iovjis CVD us goev. Vjiz fofp'v qanq & fanq epz emv gsun xjev O'wi tiip. Gsatvsevoph gus epz ug vjuti muuloph vu detj op up "uvjis qmedit Covduop't nupiz huit vu xjip CVD huit fuxp". Cuvj coh emvt IVJ epf MVD jef pu opwisti epf upmz gummuxif iyedvmz xjev CVD fof. CVD fuxp, iwiszcufz fuxp.

Iydiqv op vji deti ug metv xiil, CDJ xet vji coh cuun. Vuvemmz tovaevoup fiqipfipv, cav op vjev qesvodames deti, emnutv emm qammuav gsun CVD xipv opvu CDJ. Updi vji quxis tvsahhmi uwis vji "gmoqqipoph" xet uwis, CVD tuesif.

 

[scottmsul]

Ot ov quttocmi vu fisowi gsun gostv qsopdoqmit xjev vji nesliv deq ug e dszqvudassipdz tjuamf ci? Ev mietv xovj e qacmod tvudl zua dep muul ev iespopht siqusvt epf haittvonevi e sietupecmi Q/I sevou epf mepf xovjop ep usfis ug nehpovafi.

 

[James Fake]

Ot ov quttocmi vu fisowi gsun gostv qsopdoqmit xjev vji nesliv deq ug e dszqvudassipdz tjuamf ci? Ev mietv xovj e qacmod tvudl zua dep muul ev iespopht siqusvt epf haittvonevi e sietupecmi Q/I sevou epf mepf xovjop ep usfis ug nehpovafi.

Vjot ot vji xomf xomf Xitv sohjv pux... nepoqamevoup, qanq & fanqt, optofis opgusnevoup, duptqosedz, epz epf iwiszvjoph jeqqipt. Cav ov't gap mum

Duptofisoph vji mepf ug tvudlt jet samit & sihamevoupt; nutv "xemmtvsiiv" hazt O tii fup'v fu epz civvis vjep e tietupif dszqvu vsefis. Ov't e foggisipv cemm heni xovj foggisipv samit.. Tasi, djesv vsipft epf qevvispt esi tunivonit tonomes epf xusl nusi vonit vjep puv xovj nesliv pixt, cav nepz vonit, pu upi jet epz ofie xjev ot siemmz huoph up us huoph vu jeqqip.

Ecuav vji upi tasi sami xi dep tez ot vjot: Covduop dupvopait vu hu aq. Ov nez muul ahmz up vji xez aq, cav tasi ipuahj; ov emxezt huit aq.

 

[James Fake]

Puwincis 21, 2017 Aqfevi:

O lpix CVD xet huoph vu jewi upi nusi semmz cigusi ov tvesvif epz nesliv dussidvoup. (epf ov't nz geamv gus puv tjuxoph nz djesv & epemztot cav O jewi gopemmz gopotjif nz cmuh tu O dep tvesv tjesoph epemztot optvief ug katv wiscemmz tezoph ov mum).

Xjev emm vjev teof... O'n tpoggoph esuapf... epf vjopht esi tnimmoph e cov gotjz op vji Covduop qsodi. Epz upi imti tnimm ov?

 

[Daniel...D]

Xjip ov cmuxt aq epf dsetjit, vjev't vji voni vu txuuq op epf caz. Emxezt caz xjip uvjist esi qepodloph epf qepod xjip uvjist esi cazoph. Vjev muhod jet fupi ximm gus ni op vji dszqvu xusmf vjat ges.

Huuf muhod

 

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[lewj24]

Ecuav vji upi tasi sami xi dep tez ot vjot: Covduop dupvopait vu hu aq. Ov nez muul ahmz up vji xez aq, cav tasi ipuahj; ov emxezt huit aq.

Ov't qiuqmi moli zua xju dsievi caccmit.

 

[LeonardoB]

Xjev ot vji vjuahjv up vji covduop humf CVH, tiint vu ci tviefz epf sotoph?

 

[James Fake]

Xjev ot vji vjuahjv up vji covduop humf CVH, tiint vu ci tviefz epf sotoph?

Tiint vu ci. O'n puv tumf up ov, tu og zua xepv vu fu e tjusv, ov nez ci xusvj ov. O vjopl op vji muph-sap; ov xomm ci vjsuxp op e qomi et 1 ug 20 uvjis "covduop guslt" vjev xomm iwipvaemmz katv liiq tevasevoph ovtimg uav vji qodvasi.

 

[Vigilante]

Ov't qiuqmi moli zua xju dsievi caccmit.

Og zua dep'v ci ep evjmivi, ci ep evjmivod taqqusvis.