So I dropped out... Here's why

[Austin Barton]

So this is actually the first semester i've been in school. I was majoring in entrepreneurship so i could obviously start my own company. So i thought to myself, how beneficial is this as of right now. None. I haven't learned anything that i couldn't learn online or didn't already know. Hell i've learned more about business in a week online then i have this whole semester. So yesterday i said screw it and just dropped all my classes. I have a plan A right now and don't want a plan B because i feel like it will distract me from my real goals. Hopefully they turn out pretty well! I do have a job currently as it is also so im not a bum.

 

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[The Racing Driver]

Hopefully they turn out pretty well!

That's great man, takes courage to finally start something on your own, and I wish you best of luck !

Only thing is, I feel this sentence could be better said. To me as a normal reader, 'hopefully' doesn't sound convincing enough.

 

[James Thornton]

No idea about other majors, but the art & graphic design curriculums are WAY behind the times.

For traditional art, there's good lessons, but not for digital art, which is more likely to lead to a career.

For graphic design, the best lessons are on YouTube, Udemy, Lynda, Digital Tutors, etc.

For printmaking, they only teach ooold school screen printing and lithographs rather than modern digital printing. I personally know several who majored in printmaking, yet have zero technical skills to operate a real printer. It makes no sense.

Add to that, no one who needs an artist even cares about a degree. So they end up with outdated skills, unrealistic expectations of what the world is looking for, and an expensive certificate nobody requires. Sad to see

 

[The-J]

I do have a job currently as it is also so im not a bum.

Good.

I'd look into commissioned sales jobs, if that's not already what you're doing. Get good at sales and you'll never need to be broke.

College isn't for everyone. It sounds like it's not for you. Good on you for having the foresight to realize that.

 

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[ToniLene]

Having a college degree has never hurt anyone(if you chose a wise career field). Everyone wants to be the next Mark Zuckerberg, but odds are, you're not. The majority of folks I know that dropped out of college aren't doing very well financially.

Just admit that you wanted to sleep in and didn't want to do the homework.

 

[ToniLene]

Also, why drop out when the semster is halfway over? At least finish the semester and complete those credits. You just wasted thousands of dollars.

 

[Austin Barton]

Having a college degree has never hurt anyone. Everyone wants to be the next Mark Zuckerberg, but odds are, you're not. The majority of folks I know that dropped out of college aren't doing very well financially.

Just admit that you wanted to sleep in and didn't want to do the homework.

I work 40 hours a week as a shift lead at papa johns. From the day i've joined these forums i have woken up at 8 A.M every morning and done nothing but research. I have not touched the TV i have been glued to the forums/blogs/google whatever its taken so i can get to where i want to be. So to answer your question no. I want to get shit done.

 

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[blackbrich]

Having a college degree has never hurt anyone(if you chose a wise career field). Everyone wants to be the next Mark Zuckerberg, but odds are, you're not. The majority of folks I know that dropped out of college aren't doing very well financially.

Just admit that you wanted to sleep in and didn't want to do the homework.

If someone took out $80,000 in loans, graduated with a degree, and then worked at a job where they didn't need a degree anyway, I'd say they were hurt.
They gained the shackle of pointless debt, wasted time, and possibly picked up a drug habit.

 

[ToniLene]

I work 40 hours a week as a shift lead at papa johns. From the day i've joined these forums i have woken up at 8 A.M every morning and done nothing but research. I have not touched the TV i have been glued to the forums/blogs/google whatever its taken so i can get to where i want to be. So to answer your question no. I want to get shit done.

 

[ToniLene]

If someone took out $80,000 in loans, graduated with a degree, and then worked at a job where they didn't need a degree anyway, I'd say they were hurt.
They gained the shackle of pointless debt, wasted time, and possibly picked up a drug habit.

Well, that is a hypothetical situation that isn't even the issue. Sure, if you major in Basket Weaving you're going to have a problem. Major in a STEM related field and your earning potential is great. Granted, you must have a first rate intellect for those fields, so it's not for everyone.

 

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[Austin Barton]

So you'd rather work at Papa Johns than go to college? Alrighty then...

Well, that is a hypothetical situation that isn't even the issue. Sure, if you major in Basket Weaving you're going to have a problem. Major in a STEM related field and your earning potential is great. Granted, you must have a first rate intellect for those fields, so it's not for everyone.

Just so you are aware I was going to a community college for a year to do some general studies and then transfer to a university. Didn't even waste a grand. Also when did I say i would rather work at papa johns then go to college? I've worked there for a year and am now one of the managers. I live in a apartment and obviously can't quit my job. You seem to be judging me off of a lot of lazy a$$ teenagers and that's just not me. But whatever u wanna do.

 

[blackbrich]

Well, that is a hypothetical situation that isn't even the issue. Sure, if you major in Basket Weaving you're going to have a problem. Major in a STEM related field and your earning potential is great. Granted, you must have a first rate intellect for those fields, so it's not for everyone.

It's a hypothetical that's happened to people hence it counters your "Having a college degree has never hurt anyone".
You can also be underemployed as a STEM graduate.

The graph below says that 79% of engineering grads (The highest percent) have jobs that require degrees. Therefore 21% do not. It gets worse for non-engineering STEM graduates.

The potential velocity for a ball dropped from the Eiffel Tower is great. If you never drop it, does it matter?

 

[Austin Barton]

It's a hypothetical that's happened to people hence it counters your "Having a college degree has never hurt anyone".
You can also be underemployed as a STEM graduate.

The graph below says that 79% of engineering grads (The highest percent) have jobs that require degrees. Therefore 21% do not. It gets worse for non-engineering STEM graduates.

The potential velocity for a ball dropped from the Eiffel Tower is great. If you never drop it, does it matter?

Yeah I know plenty of people that major in something and just get a job not even for their major. I get that college can be useful and beneficial sometimes and to certain people but i just don't think college is for me.

 

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[ToniLene]

Yeah I know plenty of people that major in something and just get a job not even for their major. I get that college can be useful and beneficial sometimes and to certain people but i just don't think college is for me.

Well, that is a valid position. What is for you and how do you plan to get there? (That's something to ask yourself).

 

[GIlman]

It's not whether you drop out or not. Question now is what are you going to do with your time. You can learn 10x faster and 1000% more relevant, but you must keep the discipline like you are in school. Spend 5 hours a day learning and growing.

We all see so many people that say school is a waste, then drop out and spend their time playing video games instead.

This is a recipe for sure failure. Jobs and Gates both dropped out, but then used their time to learn, grow, and build.

Hope everything works out for you perfect, we all have the ability.


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[ToniLene]

It's a hypothetical that's happened to people hence it counters your "Having a college degree has never hurt anyone".
You can also be underemployed as a STEM graduate.

The graph below says that 79% of engineering grads (The highest percent) have jobs that require degrees. Therefore 21% do not. It gets worse for non-engineering STEM graduates.

The potential velocity for a ball dropped from the Eiffel Tower is great. If you never drop it, does it matter?

The fact remains that statistically, a college degree in an in demand field increases your earning potential. Throwing out anecdotes of what happened to random people is a moot point.

 

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[Austin Barton]

Well, that is a valid position. What is for you and how do you plan to get there? (That's something to ask yourself).

Owning a business is whats for me. I've wanted to every since I can remember and its what i'm going to do. I'm going to work and work and work until its done.

 

[Vigilante]

If someone took out $80,000 in loans, graduated with a degree, and then worked at a job where they didn't need a degree anyway, I'd say they were hurt.
They gained the shackle of pointless debt, wasted time, and possibly picked up a drug habit.

50% of people that start college never finish it. Most that do finish end up working in fields that don't require a degree. The average student graduates with $60k (+/-) in student loan debt. College is definitely not for everyone.

 

[ToniLene]

50% of people that start college never finish it. Most that do finish end up working in fields that don't require a degree. The average student graduates with $60k (+/-) in student loan debt. College is definitely not for everyone.

Sir, can you cite your source? Please and thank you.


And I agree that college is not for everyone. There is nothing wrong with learning a trade. We need more plumbers.

Nevermind about the source, we all know that student debt is real. That said, when is the last time you chose a physician without a degree?

Sorry, the edit button is my friend.

 

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[Vigilante]

So this is actually the first semester i've been in school. I was majoring in entrepreneurship so i could obviously start my own company. So i thought to myself, how beneficial is this as of right now. None. I haven't learned anything that i couldn't learn online or didn't already know. Hell i've learned more about business in a week online then i have this whole semester. So yesterday i said screw it and just dropped all my classes. I have a plan A right now and don't want a plan B because i feel like it will distract me from my real goals. Hopefully they turn out pretty well! I do have a job currently as it is also so im not a bum.

Good for you. Going to college for the sake of going to college is not for everyone, unless you need a specific credential for a specific profession. Times are changing. The people the most impressed with college degrees are other people with college degrees, which is a minority of the work force.

I will be watching to see what you become. Exciting time for you. Go get 'em.

 

[Austin Barton]

Good for you. Going to college for the sake of going to college is stupid, unless you need a specific credential for a specific profession. I will be watching to see what you become. Exciting time for you. Go get 'em.

Really appreciate the encouragement you are throwing my way! I still have stuff to learn and don't expect to get it all done over night but i'm going to make a four year plan (average college student) to get my business up and running. it would be great to get it done before that point but however long it takes to get it finished. Hopefully people on the forums will also be able to push my in the right direction as well!

 

[Vigilante]

Really appreciate the encouragement you are throwing my way! I still have stuff to learn and don't expect to get it all done over night but i'm going to make a four year plan (average college student) to get my business up and running. it would be great to get it done before that point but however long it takes to get it finished. Hopefully people on the forums will also be able to push my in the right direction as well!

I won't be your new BFF, as you have to do this on your own... but if you get stuck, hit us up here on the forum and we will help you navigate the obstacles. You have courage. It would have been easier to stay in school.

 

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[Austin Barton]

I won't be your new BFF, as you have to do this on your own... but if you get stuck, hit us up here on the forum and we will help you navigate the obstacles. You have courage. It would have been easier to stay in school.

Trust me i don't expect that. I don't expect anyone to hold my hand through this process. Its gonna be tough but ill get it done!

 

[ToniLene]

If someone took out $80,000 in loans, graduated with a degree, and then worked at a job where they didn't need a degree anyway, I'd say they were hurt.
They gained the shackle of pointless debt, wasted time, and possibly picked up a drug habit.

I'd also say that if someone took out $80K in loans, you better be graduating with a degree in law, science or medicine. You have to be truly foolish to take out expensive loans without seriously planning how you intend to pay those loans back. Who takes out loans and then gets a job where they need no degree?

 

[Vigilante]

I'd also say that if someone took out $80K in loans, you better be graduating with a degree in law, science or medicine. You have to be truly foolish to take out expensive loans without seriously planning how you intend to pay those loans back. Who takes out loans and then gets a job where they need no degree?

Most people.

But you are right.

Get a credential that you can use if you're going to spend the money.

Especially debt money.

 

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[ToniLene]

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I won't be your new BFF, as you have to do this on your own... but if you get stuck, hit us up here on the forum and we will help you navigate the obstacles. You have courage. It would have been easier to stay in school.

It would've been smarter, I don't know about easier. Obtaining a college degree is not easy, by any means --or more people would have one rather than work at Subway.

 

[Vigilante]

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It would've been smarter, I don't know about easier. Obtaining a college degree is not easy, by any means --or more people would have one rather than work at Subway.

Depends on your major.

 

[biophase]

College is not for everyone, but business is also not for everyone. Are you disciplined enough to make use of your added free time now?

Because you hate college doesn't mean you are going to make it running your own business either. The question now, is what are you going to do with the free time that you have. If you had an 8-12am MWF class schedule, and now you sleep until 10am and surf FB until 11am. You are regressing and staying in college may have been better for you.

 

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[Austin Barton]

College is not for everyone, but business is also not for everyone. Are you disciplined enough to make use of your added free time now?

Because you hate college doesn't mean you are going to make it running your own business either. The question now, is what are you going to do with the free time that you have. If you had an 8-12am MWF class schedule, and now you sleep until 10am and surf FB until 11am. You are regressing and staying in college may have been better for you.

Every minute of my free time is going towards starting my own business. From the time I wake up till the i leave for work. Once i get home from work i keep learning and keep improving until i go to bed. REPEAT.

 

[Charnell]

The fact remains that statistically, a college degree in an in demand field increases your earning potential. Throwing out anecdotes of what happened to random people is a moot point.

Why are you on an entrepreneur forum rambling on and on about how great a college degree is?

Good luck @Austin Barton