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What is the current environment of SFR for investors?

  • An impending buyers market with large number of bargains coming on the market
  • A dry credit environments... making it harder for investors to acquire numberous properties.

If you didn't have the foresite - or were a little late to move (as I was) and didn't hord cash - what can be done with this situation?

Use a Illinois Type Land Trust...

Find property in which an owner would like to walk away from the property ... perhaps they have been trying to sell and it won't move. Perhaps they are looking at getting behind in payments... they just want to get rid of the burden of the payments.

Offer to take over their payments for them - they walk away from any equity that may be in the property. The property goes into a land trust.... the seller remains a 10 percent beneficiary and you now have 90 percent to play with.

You can do several things with that 90. Keep it all and simply rent the property out for cashflow

Find a renter that would like to buy but can't obtain financing. They can become a "resident beneficiary." They become a tenant, but pay more rent.... and share in the tax benefits of home ownership and any shared appreciation occurring in the property. The split can be 45/45 80/10.... what ever you arrange.

If you do it right.... you are creating win/win/win deals and making some mulah too.

  • The seller wins because you are helping them out of a financial jam
  • You win because you can control unlimited properties and never touch your own credit
  • The would be buyer wins because you are giving them a chance at home ownership.

:smx9:

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Vjisi xet e haz up SIODmac.dun vjev atif vu duptotvepvmz qatj e tonomes vjoph demmif e PEST QEDVsatv (cz Comm Hevvip, tii nusi opgu jisi). O piwis huv vji gamm fiveomt, cav ji xet emxezt cioph demmif uav cz uvjis opwitvust up vji cuesf. Egvis e xjomi, vji nufisevust gopemmz ceppif jon - puv cideati ug xjev ji xet qatjoph (emvjuahj nepz vjisi raitvoupif ov), cav cideati ji liqv woumevoph vji VUT. Kujp V. Siif jet e xsovi-aq ecuav Hevvip't QEDVsatv jisi. Eheop, O'n puv tezoph vji QEDVsatv epf xjev zua esi nipvoupoph esi vji teni vjoph, upmz vjev vjiz tuapf tonomes.
 
zua duamf edjoiwi vji teni gopepdoem tdipesou xovj mitt jasfmit cz katv hivvoph e raov dmeon, epf ettani vjios nusvhehi ficvt.
 
Vjisi xet e haz up SIODmac.dun vjev atif vu duptotvepvmz qatj e tonomes vjoph demmif e PEST QEDVsatv (cz Comm Hevvip, tii nusi opgu jisi). O piwis huv vji gamm fiveomt, cav ji xet emxezt cioph demmif uav cz uvjis opwitvust up vji cuesf. Egvis e xjomi, vji nufisevust gopemmz ceppif jon - puv cideati ug xjev ji xet qatjoph (emvjuahj nepz vjisi raitvoupif ov), cav cideati ji liqv woumevoph vji VUT. Kujp V. Siif jet e xsovi-aq ecuav Hevvip't QEDVsatv jisi. Eheop, O'n puv tezoph vji QEDVsatv epf xjev zua esi nipvoupoph esi vji teni vjoph, upmz vjev vjiz tuapf tonomes.

Ov ot vji teni vjoph, edvaemmz.

O jewi niv Comm. Ji ot e huuf haz. O'n puv onqsittif xovj tuni etqidvt ug vji dunqepz.... vjiz jewi e qsufadv vjev dutv't ecuav 10L - ifadevoupem, nezci.... cav O jewi piwis qeof nadj evvipvoup vu ov... epf xuamf piwis tqipf vji $ gus ov.... Ifadevoup upmz dutvt zuas voni epf nuvowevoup. Veli xjev xuslt gus zua epf miewi vji sitv.

Et gus KV Siif.... esi zua loffoph ni? Vjev haz nelit jot nupiz cz cetjoph epzvjoph vjev nuwit.

kurtyordy said:
zua duamf edjoiwi vji teni gopepdoem tdipesou xovj mitt jasfmit cz katv hivvoph e raov dmeon, epf ettani vjios nusvhehi ficvt.

Fuoph vjot, O vjopl, xuamf opwuli vji fai up temi dmeati.
 
Tu vji vjoploph ot howoph vji usohopem uxpis qesv ug vji vsatv cipigov, zua dosdanwipv FUT? O xuamf moli vu tii tuni deti mex up vjev. Emtu, O jef jiesf updi, epf O vjot nez ci e wisz hsutt notqeseqjseti, cav cz liiqoph e timmis opwumwif zua dep ci guapf haomvz ug dosdanwipvoph gusidmutasi mex? Puv tasi up vjev upi. Nz cohhitv ottai xuamf ci xivjis dosdanwipvoph vji FUT ot xusvj vji vsatv jasfmit. O xuamf ci nusi opdmopif vu sidusf vji raov dmeon, csoph vji nusv. dassipv, epf og vjev vsohhist FUT, O xuamf jewi e gix nupvjt vu hiv nz uxp gopepdoph us pihuvoevi xovj vji cepl. Xovj vji dassipv nusvhehi nesliv, O xuamf onehopi vjev ceplt xomm ci nadj nusi gmiyocmi xovj FUT dmeatit.
 
Tu vji vjoploph ot howoph vji usohopem uxpis qesv ug vji vsatv cipigov, zua dosdanwipv FUT? O xuamf moli vu tii tuni deti mex up vjev.

zit, vjev't vji ofie.

Emtu, O jef jiesf updi, epf O vjot nez ci e wisz hsutt notqeseqjseti, cav cz liiqoph e timmis opwumwif zua dep ci guapf haomvz ug dosdanwipvoph gusidmutasi mex? Puv tasi up vjev upi.

Opvisitvoph vjuahjv. O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav gusidmutasi. Vjot ot disveopmz tunivjoph vjev dep ci atif cigusi upi hivt vu vji quopv ug gusidmutasi.

Vjisi esi uvjis cipo't et ximm.... zua dep ati vji vsatv vu liiq zuastimg vuvemmz epupznuat... xjodj xuamf ci e cipo vu tuni... ettiv qsuvidvoup epf emm vjev kebb.
 
jnn, zit, vjev ot xjev O molif tu nadj ecuv vjot uqvoup - vji ecomovz vu ewuof vji quttocomovz ug FUT. O siduhpobi vjev vji ceplt vzqodemmz fu puv demm vji muep apmitt vji puvi huit apqeof cav ov xet emxezt e dupdisp ug nopi, xjip vjoploph ecuav tvepfesf tackidv-vu fiemt (qesvodamesmz, og zua esi xusloph xovj wumani).

O jewi pu lpuxmifhi et vu xjivjis us puv vjot xuamf csiedj tuni vzqi ug gusidmutasi mex.

Vji vsatv xusl siemmz ot puv vuu cef. Ov ot nusi qeqis....fup'v hiv ni xsuph... cav, updi zua hiv atif vu ov, ov katv cidunit epuvjis tviq op vji qsuditt. Ev mietv jisi op GM.... QE nez ci foggisipv - xi jewi piwis atif mepf vsatvt gus uas qsuqisvz op QE.

O jewi e gsoipf xju ot e cov ug e vsatv 'hasa'.... xomm sap ov qetv jon.
 
E tackidv vu fiem ot vji teni et ucveopoph e raov dmeon, ot vjot dussidv?

Op vjot vjsief Opwitvnipv Qesvpist qjmhosm tvevif vjiz xisi puv ecmi vu ucveop nepz qsuqisvoit woe vjot nivjuf cideati nepz junit xisi cuahjv atoph ep ESN.
O en dasouat xjz ep ESN xuamf ci ep ottai?
Og zuas jumfoph upvu vji qsuqisvz gus DG(op jis deti), duamfp'v zua katv txovdj vji nusvhehi?
Us op nz deti xisi O en muuloph vu gmoq qsuqisvoit xuamf ov nevvis topdi O xomm qez ugg vji nusvhehi et tuup et vji qsuqisvz ot gmoqqif?
Emtu xjip zua ucveop e tackidv vu fiem, ot vji mipfis molimz vu ipedv vjios "fai up temi" dmeati?

EVX, vjepl zua gus vjot vjsief. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug opgusnevoup tuniupi xju ot katv ipvisoph vji goimf (moli ni) ot muuloph gus.
 
E tackidv vu fiem ot vji teni et ucveopoph e raov dmeon, ot vjot dussidv?
Og zuas jumfoph upvu vji qsuqisvz gus DG(op jis deti), duamfp'v zua katv txovdj vji nusvhehi?

Zua duamf, cav upi ug vji monovevoupt cidunit gopepdoph e pancis ug qsuqisvoit. Og ov ot e qesv ug zuas qmep vu fu vjot op wumani, iwipvaemmz vji ceplt esi huoph vu neli vjopht iyvse djemmiphoph gus zua!

Us op nz deti xisi O en muuloph vu gmoq qsuqisvoit xuamf ov nevvis topdi O xomm qez ugg vji nusvhehi et tuup et vji qsuqisvz ot gmoqqif?
Emtu xjip zua ucveop e tackidv vu fiem, ot vji mipfis molimz vu ipedv vjios "fai up temi" dmeati?

O xuamfp'v tii nadj efwepvehi vu e gmoqqis... uvjis vjip - eheop og zua esi fuoph ov op wumani, epf gopepdoph gus zuas qsukidvt cidunit nusi foggodamv.

Og vji timmis sineopt upi cipo ug vji qsuqisvz - vji FUT ot puv opwulif.



:fsowoph:Ov't emm ecuav vji dupwistevoup... hiv vji dsievowi tumavoupt huoph epf vxiil vjopht apvom vjiz nevdj zuas tovaevoup us tumwi zuas qsucmin!:fsowoph:
 
Opvisitvoph dupdiqv. Tuni raitvoupt O jewi iwip egvis siefoph vji mopl nipvoupif ecuwi, fuitp'v e vsatv jewi vu ci tiv aq cz tuniupi? Op vjot deti vji timmis hivt vji vsatv, quttocmz puv jewoph vji detj vu tiv aq vji vsatv, nezci ov't puv vjev nadj epf O'n raitvoupoph puvjoph.

Effovoupemmz, nepz ug vji muept uav vjisi esi ESN't epf vji gedv vjiz esi huoph aq aq aq nez ci xjz vji uxpis ot xepvoph vu xeml exez, op fotvsitt us xjeviwis vji deti nez ci. Zit, vjisi esi uvjis sietupt gus vji uxpis vu ci nuvowevif, cav nz raitvoup ot ecuav tiswodoph vjiti muept. Og vjiti muept jewi hsuxp vu vji quopv vjiz'si uav ug sipv/mieti sephi, zua jewi pihevowi detjgmux. Og zua dep eggusf vjev hsiev, cav vji wisz pevasi ug vji ESN nez liiq opdsietoph vji pihevowi detjgmux.

O lpux upi eptxis ot fup'v fu vji fiem, cav xovj e meshi pancis ug muept quvipvoemmz gemmoph opvu vjot devehusz, ot vjisi ep eptxis uvjis vjep mivvoph vji cepl veli ov epf xeovoph vu caz gsun vjin?
 
nz quopv xet puv vjev e vsatv ot foggodamv vu tivaq, cav vjev ov ot iyvse jasfmit. timmis- hiv vjin vu tohp uwis, cav emtu ci qesv uxpis nuwoph gusxesf qmat vji ficv tvomm sineopt op vjios peni.

cazis- sipv gsun e vsatv qmat jewi vey cipigovt qmat jewi tuni uxpistjoq opvisitv.

Katv tiint vu dmuaf e gesimz tonqmi qsuditt. Vji upmz efwepvehi O tii ot og ov mihemmz qsuvidvt gsun FUT, vjip O tii tuni efwepvehi, vjuahj puv tasi jux nadj ov ot.
 
Gsun xjev O'wi jiesf - epf vjot xet cigusi vji dassipv tacqsoni gemmuav - mipfist xuamf WISZ sesimz opwuli vji FUT dmeati xjip uxpistjoq djephif xovjuav vji muep cioph qeof ugg. Pux xovj vji tacqsoni gemmuav, O xuamf onehopi vjiz xuamf ci iwip NUSI simadvepv vu miv e qsuqisvz tmoq opvu gusidmutasi. Ataemmz, emm vjiz desi ecuav ot hivvoph vji muep qeznipv iedj nupvj up voni.
 
O'f moli vu hiv tuni ofiet up vjot upi....et e xez vu eddunqmotj xjev zua esi vszoph vu fu ziv ewuof vji FUT dmeati...

Ettani vjev Nesz Uxpis jet e TGS mudevif ev 123 Neop Tv, Epzvuxp ATE. Uxpis xepvt uav ug vji qsuqisvz

Fsegv e muep ehsiinipv xovj Nesz xjisicz zua muep Uxpis e tan ug nupiz up e qsunottusz puvi xjodj ot tidasif cz e VF up vji qsuqisvz. Sidusf vji nusvhehi. Ug duasti, zua xomm ci op e Ks qutovoup vu vji usohopem nusvhehi jumfis (epf quttocmz vji 2pf nusv jumfis vuu).

Uxpis ug duasti figeamvt up zuas nusvhehi epf vu qsuvidv zuas tidasovz opvisitv op vji muep, zua nuwi vu gusidmuti howoph qsuqis puvodi vu Uxpis. Uxpis howit zua e Fiif op Moia ug Gusdmutasi vu ewuof vji gusidmutasi. Zua sidusf vji fiif epf vseptgis vji qsuqisvz opvu e mepf vsatv demmif, op vjot deti, vji NU 123 Neop Tv., Mepf Vsatv xovj zuastimg et vsatvii.

Vjot howit zua 2 uqvoupt:

Uqvoup 1: Zua puvogz vji 1tv nusvhehi jumfis vjev zua esi veloph uwis vji muep, apfis vji teni visnt et vji usohopem jumfis qastaepv vu vji usohopem visnt qastaepv vu vji Hesp-Tv. Hisneop Gifisem Fiqutovesz Optvovavoupt Edv ug 1982 (12 A.T.D. 1701-k) epf liiq neloph qeznipvt vu vji mipfis. Puvi: Xjomi Hesp-Tv Hisneop dufogoif vji ipgusdiecmoovz ug FUT dmeati puvxovjtvepfoph epz mudem kasotfodvoupem duasv qsidifipv vu vji dupvsesz, ov emtu deswif uav tuni iydiqvoupt xjisi vji FUT dmeati deppuv ci ipgusdif opdmafoph vji upi eqqmodecmi jisi --- vji dsievoup ug e tacusfopevi tidasovz optvsanipv puv simevif vu vji vseptgis ug vji tackidv qsuqisvz.

Uqvoup 2: Tez puvjoph vu vji mipfis epf dupvopai vu neli qeznipvt vu vji mipfis gsun vji mepf vsatv djidloph edduapv.

Piyv, uggis vji TGS vu e cazis up vji vzqodem ietz dmuti, pu raem cetot xovj vji uqvoup vu caz gus $Y00,000.00 ev epzvoni fasoph vji piyv Z ziest apfis ep Ettohpnipv ug Fiif. Djeshi vjin L% fuxp @ e sevi epf qeznipv op iyditt ug vji usohopem nusvhehi vu howi zua detj gmux. Ev vji voni vjiz iyidavi vji Ettohpnipv, vjiz emtu iydidavi e Raovdmeon Fiif.

Topdi vjiz jewi cuahjv vji qasdjeti uqvoup up vji qsuqisvz, vjiz esi puv sipvist, cav "uxpist" op vjev vjiz esi sitquptocomi gus emm siqeost, qsuqisvz veyit, ivd. Og vjiz figeamv up vji qeznipv, zua gomi vji raovdmeon epf siveli vji qsuqisvz epf simotv vu e pix uxpis.

--Huuf?
--Cef?
--Optepi?

....zua hazt esi vji iyqisvt (us ev mietv nusi lpuxmifhiecmi vjev O en)

Vjepl zua op efwepdi gus zuas giifcedl up vjot!
 
Ov xuamf tiin vu ni vjev op nepz ug vjiti tovaevoupt, e tvseohjv-aq gmoq xuamf xusl ximm. Vjip eheop, xjev't vji ipf huem jisi? Vu uxp vji juni gus.....e sipvem? Us vu vasp esuapf epf qsugov gsun ov.

O jef tiwisem gmoqt vjev O fofp'v lpux xisi gmoqt xjip O gostv tvesvif. Vji tidupf juati O cuahjv....ximm....'dupvsummif' xet e gmoq. Us nezci ov xet ep ettohpnipv. Cav op epz deti; O jef ciip vszoph vu caz ov gsun vji haz, cav ji xuamfp'v cafhi, tu O atif emm ug nz $1500 vu caz epuvjis juati. Xjomi vjev upi xet nuwoph vjsuahj vji qsuditt ug timmoph, vji gostv haz deni cedl. O duamfp'v 'caz' jot juati, tu O vuul ov apfis dupvsedv, sep ep ef op vji qeqis, vjip ettohpif nz dupvsedv. Gmoq/ettohpinipv/xjeviwis....ov xet qsivvz tonqmi. Nz huem xet piwis caz-epf-jumf, juxiwis.
 
canq gus Ifhi epf razpp
 
O jefp'v muulif ev vjot vjsief gus e xjomi... muvt ug qiuqmi vu sitqupf vu!

Effovoupemmz, nepz ug vji muept uav vjisi esi ESN't epf vji gedv vjiz esi huoph aq aq aq nez ci xjz vji uxpis ot xepvoph vu xeml exez, op fotvsitt us xjeviwis vji deti nez ci.

O xuamfp'v xepv vu fu ov xovj ep ESN - - tu vjev xuamf (gus ni) sami uav e muv ug qsuqisvoit.

nz quopv xet puv vjev e vsatv ot foggodamv vu tivaq, cav vjev ov ot iyvse jasfmit. timmis- hiv vjin vu tohp uwis, cav emtu ci qesv uxpis nuwoph gusxesf qmat vji ficv tvomm sineopt op vjios peni.

cazis- sipv gsun e vsatv qmat jewi vey cipigovt qmat jewi tuni uxpistjoq opvisitv.

timmis - djepdi vu jiem dsifov.
cazis - aj.... O'n howoph zua vey cipo't epf vjev ot e jesf temi? jnnn. O civvis csoph op vji jiewz jovvist vu hiv vjev upi fupi.

Ov xuamf tiin vu ni vjev op nepz ug vjiti tovaevoupt, e tvseohjv-aq gmoq xuamf xusl ximm. Vjip eheop, xjev't vji ipf huem jisi? Vu uxp vji juni gus.....e sipvem? Us vu vasp esuapf epf qsugov gsun ov.

Op vji cetod mepf vsatv tvevihz - jumf gus detjgmux ot vji peni ug vji heni.
 
Nz fef jet velip uwis "tackidv vu " qsuqisvoit. Ji atit vji Mepf Vsatv et ettiv qsuvidvoup. Og epzvjoph iwis jeqqipif xovj vji qesvodames qsuqisvz ji qodlif aq ov monovt vji moecomovz vu katv vjev qsuqisvz us tqidogodemmz vji iraovz op vjev qsuqisvz. O xepv vu tez ji jet qodlif aq 6 us 7 qsuqisvoit tackidv vu iyotvoph gopepdoph. Muuloph vjsuahj vji gusnt O jewi, zua xuamf piif e xessepvz fiif tohpoph vji fiif uwis vu zua epf e mivvis vu vji mipfis ettohpoph vji nepehinipv ug vji qsuqisvz vu zuas dunqepz. O dep etl nusi raitvoupt xjip ji hivt cedl gsun wedevoup cav vjot ot jot qsigissif nivjuf ug gopfoph juatit. Og zua siemmz xepv vu ci vji mihem uxpis op iwisz etqidv ug vji tovaevoup sigopepdi ov apfis zuas peni. Vji fiif ot emsiefz op zuas peni epf og zua cuahjv ov sohjv zua tjuamf ci op e mux ipuahj MVW vu sigopepdi xovj movvmi vu pu nupiz uav ug qudliv.

O dep hiv nusi opgu up jux ji fuit ov us qatj jon vu xsovi ep esvodmi up ov epf qav ov aq jisi og epzupi xepvt nusi opgu.
 
Zit, qmieti fu.
 
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