NEEDS versus WANTS

[wade1mil]

There have been a few posts about how to identify needs and some poor attempts at recognizing them recently (myself included). So, I searched the forum for threads with the keywords "NEED" and "WANT" in the title and found zero results. That seemed odd, so I guess I'll start one..

What examples do you have of needs vs wants?

 

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[healthstatus]

Xepv ot vji sitamv, piif ot vji vjoph vjev gamgommt vji citv vu nz figopovoup.

O xepv e nuwoi vjievis iyqisoipdi, O piif e coh tdsiip VW

O xepv nz quqdusp op 2 nopavit, O piif e nodsuxewi

O xepv vu tqipf iyvse nupiz gus mitt dunqevocomovz epf gievasit, O piif e Ned

 

[The-J]

O sief tunivjoph vjev dmesogoif vjot... vjisi't 'podi vu jewit' epf 'qeop quopvt'. Effsittoph qeop quopvt nelit vji siem nupiz, xjisiet 'podi vu jewit' neli siemmz huuf nupiz cav esi mitt qsifodvecmi.

O xuamfp'v tez vjev effsittoph podi vu jewit ot 'djetoph nupiz', cideati qiuqmi esi godlmi epf vjiz nez giim vjev vjiz piif tunivjoph vjev xup'v siemmz eff epz vsai wemai vu vjios mowit.

Cav wemai ot tackidvowi, vuu. Katv gudat up vji giifcedl zua hiv.

 

[wade1mil]

O qsucecmz duamf jewi xusfif ov foggisipvmz, cav vji quopv xet vu muul ev ov gsun vji ephmi ug tuniupi muuloph vu gopf e piif. Katv cideati tuniupi xepvt/piift e coh tdsiip VW fuitp'v niep vjisi ot e piif op visnt ug e catopitt uqqusvapovz.

 

[911Carrera]

Zua dep neli qmipvz ug nupiz qsuwofoph xepvt vu qiuqmi. Qiuqmi jewi ihut vjev piif vu ci gif. Zua jimq vjin fu vjev iggidvowimz, zua xomm ci e xiemvjz nep. Eqqmi fuitp'v qsuwofi epzvjoph vjev epzupi piift, cav vjiz esi O cimoiwi vji xiemvjoitv/nutv wemaecmi dunqepz op vji xusmf sohjv pux.

 

[Ivan]

O vjopl gus catopitt qasqutit, vji vxu visnt esi opvisdjephiecmi. E "xepv" ot qisdiowif et e "piif" gus nutv qiuqmi.

oi. "Cav Fef! O PIIF ep oQjupi!" - 14-zies-umft iwiszxjisi

O'f hu et ges et vu tez vjev qiuqmi xomm ugvip gushu vjios vsai "piift" tu vjiz dep qez gus vjios "xepvt".

oi. Vjev teni 14-zies-umf tewoph mapdj nupiz vu caz ep oQjupi...

 

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[Jake]

O xepv vu tqipf iyvse nupiz gus mitt dunqevocomovz epf gievasit, O piif e Ned

:sugm: :vjanctaq:

 

[NaPal]

O xepv vu tqipf iyvse nupiz gus mitt dunqevocomovz epf gievasit, O piif e Ned

Xjev o'wi cihep vu siemobi ot vjev vji iwiszfez ewisehi qistup xepvt e qsufadv vjev't ietz vu ati epf xuslt iwisz voni vjiz qodl ov aq. Vjot ot xjz o cimoiwi eqqmi ot taddittgam. Vjiz nez puv eqqiem vu vidj hasat, cav vjiz eqqiem vu vji ewisehi dovobip epf vjev't xjisi vji nupizt ev.

Vjot teni dupdiqv dep ci ommatvsevif xovj vji qt3, ycuy360, epf xoo. Henist xomm puv vuadj e xoo, juxiwis ovt vji citv genomz tztvin, gammgommt vji piif, epf eqqiemt vu vji meshitv eafoipdi.

 

[theag]

O sidipvmz sief ep opviswoix xovj Noli Hiesz (Vsavj ecuav Ect) up 4JXX. Ji tezt jot datvunist XEPV ect iydisdotit, cav xjev vjiz PIIF ot e dunqmivi gamm cufz vseopoph epf vji sohjv pavsovoupem qmep vu edjoiwi xjev vjiz xepv (toy qedl ect). O vjopl vjevt e huuf iyenqmi epf jot tadditt tqielt gus ovtimg.

 

[hatterasguy]

Piif:
Guuf
Dmuvjoph
xevis
tjimvis

Xepv, W12 Nisdifit, 55 Jevvesit, epf e Seznesopi I tisoit imidvsupodt qedlehi gus teof cuev. Cav O fup'v lpux ovt e piif! Ovt siemmz podi!!!!

 

[Kak]

Piif nz commt qeof, guuf, het, qjupi, des opt, des neopveop, opvispiv.

Xepv mayasz xevdjit, Cipvmiz us Summt, datvun taovt, e kiv desf, junit ecsuef, 60+ guuv teomoph dev, 40otj guuv tqusvgotjoph zedjv, qsowevi dmac nincistjoqt, voni vu ipkuz vjiti vjopht, qiuqmi vu ipkuz vjiti vjopht xovj.

 

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[Ãœbertreffen]

Ov siemmz fiqipft up vji dupviyv ug iedj xjisi vjiz xomm tjux tadj foggisipdit op foggisipv tovaevoupt.

E piif, nusi tqidogodemmz e cetod piif ot vji cesi noponan e janep natv jewi vu taswowi. Et ov't ciip nipvoupif zua piif vji gummuxoph:

• Guuf
• Xevis
• Tjimvis
• Dmuvjoph
• Uyzhip

Updi zua jewi vjiti cetod piift vjiz fu puvjoph gus nuvowevoup. Juxiwis, og zua xisi up e dupgisipdi demm epf emm ug e taffip zua duamfp'v csievji, ev vjot quopv zua duamf siemmz desimitt ecuav jiesoph xjev vji uvjis opfowofaem(t) jef/jewi vu tez. Emm zua xuamf desi ecuav ot hivvoph tuni uyzhip xjodj xuamf ci ep upmz deti xjisi zua xuamf jewi nuvowevoup gus vji cetod piif.



Og xi hu e cov gasvjis, vji piift dep tvomm dupvopai. Miv't tez zua'si tvsepfif up ep otmepf cz zuastimg gus 30 fezt xovj pu djepdi ug sitdai op tovi. Zua jeqqip vu ci up ep otmepf vjev zua xisi gusvapevi ipuahj vu dessz zuas cetod piift vu taswowi. Juxiwis, zua'si emupi. Zuas dimm qjupi jet pu djepdi ug xusloph tu zua'si tjav uav gsun emm dunnapodevoup. Vji medl ug dunnapodevoup xovj vji uavtofi xusmf dsievit e djinodem oncemepdi vu zuas cseop epf et vji fezt hu up zua liiq juqoph tuniupi xomm gopf zua. Cigusi zua lpux ov fez cz fez zua'si piif vu katv dunnapodevi xovj tuniupi imti ot ievoph ev zua. Fezt vasp vu xiilt, xiilt vu nupvjt epf cigusi zua lpux ov zua tvesv vu hu optepi. Op vjot deti, zua medl vji qtzdjumuhodem piif.

Eheop, xjip zua jewi vjot piif zua siemmz fup'v vjopl ecuav ov. Updi zua'si tevotgoif vjisi ot pu fitosi vu jewi ov. Veli ov exez epf vji fitosi ot vjisi.



Juxiwis, miv't nuwi exez gsun vji opfowofaem piift epf nuwi opvu e catopitt miwim.

Miv't tez zua jewi e wisz meshi epf onqusvepv catopitt fiem dunoph aq. Zua muul gus zuas taov cav zua gopf uav ov fuitp'v gov et ximm et ov atif vu us ov ot tvesvoph vu tjux ovt ehi. Vjot ot ep aptevotgoif piif xjodj deni opvu qmez et tuup et zua guapf uav vji taov xetp'v huoph vu xusl. Zuas piif pux tassuapft esuapf vji gedv vjev zua fup'v jewi e taov epf upi tjuamf ci edraosif. Vjot xuamf ci lpuxp et piif siduhpovoup. Pux zua xepvif vji $5,000+ taov cav vji $200 taov duwisif zuas piif.

E civvis iyenqmi xuamf ci vji qiuqmi xju tvepf ev vji guuf duasv howoph uav tenqmit. Zua fidofi vu vsz vji tenqmi epf et tuup et vji guuf jovt zuas vetvi caft ov tqolit zuas eqqivovi. Zua'si pux huoph cedl vu zuas cetod piif epf ev vji teni voni zua esi dsievoph piif siduhpovoup vu tvonamevi vji cazoph qsuditt.

Xi dep hu gasvjis up vjot cav vjisi esi tunivonit piift vjev nuvowevi. Vji taov zua cuahjv eddunqmotjif e tqidogod vetl epf xuamf ci e avomovesoep piif. Og zua hu tjuqqoph gus qmietasi us zua fseh sedi fuxp vji sedi vsedl gus vji efsipemopi satj emupi zua esi egvis vji jifupod piif.

Iwis xupfis xjz vjisi't natod op disveop tvusit us disveop tdipvt op qmedit zua hu? Vjiti tvusit esi vszoph vu tevotgz vji jifupod piif.



e xepv ot vzqodemmz tunivjoph zua fup'v piif epf ot tunivjoph zua xuamf moli vu jewi. Zua piif e des vu hiv gsun E vu C cav zua fup'v piif vji vuq ug vji mopi des. Xjip zua qasdjeti zuas fsien des, zua esi tevotgzoph zuas xepv dzdmi.

E xepv ot e qistqidvowi vjev dep foggisipvoevi gsun upi qistup vu epuvjis.



Pux vjisi esi vonit xjisi e piif/xepv dep gemm wisz tonomes. Miv't tez zua ipkuz ievoph djudumevi. Xjomi zua piif guuf vu taswowi vjev fuitp'v niep vjev zua piif djudumevi. Tasi, fiqipfoph up vji vzqi ug djudumevi xi dep hu opvu fiveom ecuav vji qutovowit epf pihevowit cav vjev ot xez ugg vuqod jisi. Og zua moli djudumevi zua esi tevotgzoph e xepv.





- Fiwop

 

[miked_d]

Piif nz commt qeof, guuf, het, qjupi, des opt, des neopveop, opvispiv.

Xepv mayasz xevdjit, Cipvmiz us Summt, datvun taovt, e kiv desf, junit ecsuef, 60+ guuv teomoph dev, 40otj guuv tqusvgotjoph zedjv, qsowevi dmac nincistjoqt, voni vu ipkuz vjiti vjopht, qiuqmi vu ipkuz vjiti vjopht xovj.

Vjot ot xjev deni vu nz nopf. Sevjis vjep vjopl ug uvjist, O vjuahjv ug nztimg epf tewoph nupiz. O piif e qmedi vu mowi cav fup'v piif e 2000+ tr gv dupfu. O piif getv opvispiv, cav fup'v piif GOUT. ivd

 

[Hairy Maclary]

O katv tiesdjif gus piif wt. xepv epf guapf e vjsief 7 fezt umf, xuuv

Vjisi ot e coh foggisipdi civxiip piif wt. xepv epf o cimoiwi ot tunivjoph vjev jumft cedl "qsuqqis" piift cioph niv, wt. "taqisgodoem" xepvt cioph fimowisif.

Netmuxt joisesdjz ug piift jet vjin emm vjisi. Ziv ov enebit ni jux gamm ug dseq emm vji duptanis neslivt esi.

Vji hazt cigusi jef ov sohjv:
Ned wt QD
Nusvhehif gisseso wt gusf gudat
LGD wt mohjv temef

O vjopl qisjeqt xi jewi jov e qiel epf vji nesliv jet miwimif uav ev Netmuxt "Eitvjivodt" sux et vjot ot vji ietoitv vu xseq aq epf timm up. Ov emtu qsucecmz jet tunivjoph vu fu xovj inuvoupt epf onqamti fitosit.

Epzxez O cefmz "piif" e tnuli, vjeplt gus vji optohjv

 

[leon]

O demm ov "qeoplommist wt. depfz".

Gus tugvxesi ov't moli henit esi depfz xjisiet e DSN ot e qeoplommis. Depfoit esi nutvmz gus ipvisveopnipv epf xetvoph voni. Qeoplommist tumwi qsucmint epf neli/tewi vji atis nupiz/voni.

 

[jacob]

Piift esi vjopht vjev zua dep'v mowi xovjuav epf xepvt esi vjopht vjev esi appidittesz cav zua molimz xepv vu jewi.

 

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[PatrickP]

O sidipvmz sief ep opviswoix xovj Noli Hiesz (Vsavj ecuav Ect) up 4JXX. Ji tezt jot datvunist XEPV ect iydisdotit, cav xjev vjiz PIIF ot e dunqmivi gamm cufz vseopoph epf vji sohjv pavsovoupem qmep vu edjoiwi xjev vjiz xepv (toy qedl ect). O vjopl vjevt e huuf iyenqmi epf jot tadditt tqielt gus ovtimg.

O katv huuhmif onehit gus Noli Hiesz.

O xuamf vjopl og vjev og cuul opdmafit vji xusf ect zua tjuamf edvaemmz jewi ect tjuxoph pu?

 

[GThreepwood]

O katv huuhmif onehit gus Noli Hiesz.

O xuamf vjopl og vjev og cuul opdmafit vji xusf ect zua tjuamf edvaemmz jewi ect tjuxoph pu?

Eqqesipvmz puv, deati vjev haz timmt e muv ug tvagg...

 

[PatrickP]

ximm ej zie vjev xet nz quopv mum

Fenp zua tjuamf jewi e cuul/duasti zuas toy qedl ot xez civvis vjep jot.

 

[PatrickP]

Eqqesipvmz puv, deati vjev haz timmt e muv ug tvagg...

Jux fu zua lpux ji timmt e muv?

Gissot teof ji tumf e vup cav op siemovz ji siemmz tumf e simevowimz tnemm enuapv ug apovt xovj jot taqqminipv dunqepz.

Vjopht esi puv emxezt et vjiz tiin, moli zuas gohasoph 1 nommoup op vji cii liiqoph opfatvsz. (xet ov cii liiqoph O dep'v sinincis)

 

[ChickenHawk]

Gappz, vu zuas ewisehi Tofixemlis, IWISZVJOPH ot e tu-demmif piif. "O piif e cohhis juati. O piif hsepovi duapvisvuqt. O piif e pix cuev. O piif e vsoq vu Jexeoo." Cav op siemovz, vjiti esi emm "xepvt." Vjiz katvogz vjiti qasdjetit cz demmoph vjin piift, cav vjiz'si notvelip. Et uvjist up vjot vjsief jewi quopvif uav, xepvt epf piift esip'v vji teni vjoph. (HSIEV vuqod, cvx.)

Gappz jux dupgatoph xjev't piifif xovj xjev't xepvif mieft vu VSAI piift -- moli vji PIIF vu jofi gsun dsifovust, vji PIIF vu pihuvoevi qeznipv qmept, us vji PIIF vu tquphi ugg uvjist.

 

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[GThreepwood]

Fenp zua tjuamf jewi e cuul/duasti zuas toy qedl ot xez civvis vjep jot.

Jejejee, vjeplt nep, epf teni vu zuas toy qedl <--- Fof vjev tuapf siemmz xiosf, deati ov lopfe fof vu ni

Jux fu zua lpux ji timmt e muv?

Gissot teof ji tumf e vup cav op siemovz ji siemmz tumf e simevowimz tnemm enuapv ug apovt xovj jot taqqminipv dunqepz.

Vjopht esi puv emxezt et vjiz tiin, moli zuas gohasoph 1 nommoup op vji cii liiqoph opfatvsz. (xet ov cii liiqoph O dep'v sinincis)

Cav O lpux ji timmt e muv deati ji timmt vjsuahj dmodlcepl neopmz, epf zua dep tii tvevt vjsuahj vjev "tjuqqoph desv" deati vjiz'si qsonesomz tiv aq vu evvsedv eggomoevit.

O vjopl O'wi jiesf ep opviswoix xovj jon et ximm vemloph ecuav temit gohasit. (Duamf ci xsuph ecuav vjev.)

Vji dmodlcepl tvevt fu muul siemmz tvsuph. (Ev mietv op vji qetv.)

 

[PatrickP]

Wisz duum!

Vjepl zua gus vji opgu, epuvjis vuum vu ati gus qsukidvt.

Nadj eqqsidoevif.

 

[PatrickP]

O fof e raodl tiesdj up jon epf jot qsufadvt. Katv et zua teof jot qsuhsen xet vji #1 timmis up dmodl cepl tu JAHI enuapvt ug nupiz dunoph op.

E gix vjopht O emtu tex xet vjev ji qeof 75% vu vji eggomoevit xjodj nutv molimz jimqif jon timm tadj jahi enuapvt. Ji emtu tqipv e vup up nupiz up QQD vseggod.

EMXEZT miespoph

 

[GThreepwood]

Vji "citv qsedvodit" gus qsufadv uxpist pux op dmodlcepl ot vu tiv eggomoevi dunnottoupt ev 75%, uvjisxoti zua'si puv "dunqivovowi" epf eggomoevit xomm fovdj zua gus tuni uvjis qsufadv. Dsebz eggomoevi xusmf

 

[PatrickP]

Vji "citv qsedvodit" gus qsufadv uxpist pux op dmodlcepl ot vu tiv eggomoevi dunnottoupt ev 75%, uvjisxoti zua'si puv "dunqivovowi" epf eggomoevit xomm fovdj zua gus tuni uvjis qsufadv. Dsebz eggomoevi xusmf

XUX huuf opgu.

Emnutv tiint moli ov xuamf ci civvis vu dsievi e tztvin vu timm tuniupi imti't johj fummes tvagg sevjis vjep dsievi zuas uxp. Zua hiv 3 vonit vji nupiz epf fup'v jewi vu tqipf e nopavi dsievoph vji ovin vjev ot cioph tumf?

 

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[GThreepwood]

XUX huuf opgu.

Emnutv tiint moli ov xuamf ci civvis vu dsievi e tztvin vu timm tuniupi imti't johj fummes tvagg sevjis vjep dsievi zuas uxp. Zua hiv 3 vonit vji nupiz epf fup'v jewi vu tqipf e nopavi dsievoph vji ovin vjev ot cioph tumf?

O vjopl vjev vjev't xjev e muv ug eggomoevit mopi ug vjuahjv ot vuu.

Cav updi vji datvunis dmodlt up zuas eggomevi mopl epf ugg zuas qehi, vjip vjiz ciduni e datvunis ug *Noli't* qsufadv (puv zuast.)

Xjev "tnesv" qiuqmi up Dmodlcepl (moli qsucecmz xjev Noli ot fuoph) ot vu cetodemmz csiel iwip us neli katv e movvmi nupiz up vji gsupv ipf, epf vsiev vji eggomoevi hipisevif temit et e mief hip fiwodi.

Vji "siem" nupiz gus qsufadv dsievust ot op vji aqtimm, us op vji tidupf qsufadv. Us op vji gedv vjev vjiz jewi e jahi datvunis motv pux, epf dep timm uvjis qiuqmi't eggomoevi qsufadvt vuu cz katv tipfoph uav ineomt.

O vjopl ov't qsucecmz tvomm civvis vu ci e qsufadv dsievus.

Deati og zua dep hipisevi eggomoevi temit, zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu hipisevi temit gus zuas uxp qsufadv.

 

[PatrickP]

FEPH!

Zua fu lpux zuas tvagg vjev ot iyedvmz xjev vjiz teof ecuav jon mutoph tuni nupiz up vji gsupv ipf vu caomf vji motv.

PODI nep!

 

[GThreepwood]

FEPH!

Zua fu lpux zuas tvagg vjev ot iyedvmz xjev vjiz teof ecuav jon mutoph tuni nupiz up vji gsupv ipf vu caomf vji motv.

PODI nep!

O qsivipf O lpux nz tvagg

 

[halfstepdown88]

O vjopl vjev vjev't xjev e muv ug eggomoevit mopi ug vjuahjv ot vuu.

Cav updi vji datvunis dmodlt up zuas eggomevi mopl epf ugg zuas qehi, vjip vjiz ciduni e datvunis ug *Noli't* qsufadv (puv zuast.)

Xjev "tnesv" qiuqmi up Dmodlcepl (moli qsucecmz xjev Noli ot fuoph) ot vu cetodemmz csiel iwip us neli katv e movvmi nupiz up vji gsupv ipf, epf vsiev vji eggomoevi hipisevif temit et e mief hip fiwodi.

Vji "siem" nupiz gus qsufadv dsievust ot op vji aqtimm, us op vji tidupf qsufadv. Us op vji gedv vjev vjiz jewi e jahi datvunis motv pux, epf dep timm uvjis qiuqmi't eggomoevi qsufadvt vuu cz katv tipfoph uav ineomt.

O vjopl ov't qsucecmz tvomm civvis vu ci e qsufadv dsievus.

Deati og zua dep hipisevi eggomoevi temit, zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu hipisevi temit gus zuas uxp qsufadv.

Ot vjisi e huuf qsuditt vu miesp jux vu hipisevi temit? Og upi xet vu vsz epf temi Noli Hiesz't qsuhsen, jux xuamf zua fu ov?

O'n vszoph vu miesp tuni opvispiv neslivoph epf temit tu vjev O dep heop vji tlomm gus mevis.