Stop and move on or take on the competition?

[Mike A.B.]

The situation im in right now is one of those things that really eats at my motivation sometimes. I had this great idea, it is fastlane for sure and I thought I was the first one to come up with it.

I did a quick search, didn't find a competitor and went on to put a lot of time into planning how to set everything up. Then this feeling creeps up on me.. did I do enough research? Did I search for competitors hard enough? Well no, I didn't..

Guess what? I found a small business that was doing what I wanted to do.. Not just a similar thing, no, exactly the business I wanted develop. They even had the same way of charging money for it, they showcased the same problems it solved and they have been doing it for the past 5 years!

On the bright side... I had never heard of them and I found them by accident (Weird not very related keyword). This got me thinking, I have never seen any ads by this company and I had never heard of them. maybe if I come up with some tweaks (which will be hard thanks to their 5 year advantage) AND market it very good THEN i might have a change on competing with them. Problem: I don't have the money or knowledge to do all that.

Why is it fastlane? It solves a need, entry is rather high, I would have a lot of control over it, it can be scaled big time AND it's a system that can be automated!

And oh yeah... I estimate that this 6 employee business has allready made about €8 million,- according to their prices and the number of customers they have...

I need to motivate myself again, maybe figure out if there is some sort of spin-off to this in another market or something...

What do you guys think? Develop anyway, and take them on or forget about it and move on?

 

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[fierce86]

fu ov

gopfoph dunqivovoup ot huuf. o xuamf ci tdesif og vjisi xet pu dunqivovoup cideati ov niept vjisi ot pu nesliv ( efwodi gsun hasat O'wi jiesf) . Zuas huem ot vu tii xjev vjiz fu epf fu ov civvis op tuni xez, xjivjis ovt qsodi, tiswodi, raemovz, iggodoipdz, ivd. huuf madl

 

[Vhwin]

Fof Gedicuul cedl exez epf gumf xjip NzTqedi iyotvif? Fof Eqqmi gsun Nodsutugv? Huuhmi gsun Zejuu?

Dunqivovoup ot e tohp ug e jiemvjz nesliv, O vsamz cimoiwi og zua gudat up xjev zua dep csoph vu vji vecmi epf zuas heniqmep vji coh qmezis(t) jewi pu djuodi epf xomm jewi vu neli suun gus zua

Tipv gsun nz HV-O9000 atoph Veqeveml

 

[Mike A.B.]

Vjepl zua cuvj, goisdi86 epf Wjxop. O piifif e movmi qiqveml! =) O'mm veml vu nz xicfitohpis gsoipf epf tii og ji dep duni aq xovj tunivjoph vu opqsuwi.. O'n emtu huoph vu vitv vji tiswodi ug vji dunqivovus.. Vji cohhitv efwepvehi vjiz fu jewi up ni ot itvecmotjif duppidvoupt xovj vji dunqepzt vjev O piif etximm.

O xomm miv zua hazt lpux xjip O jewi fidofif epf xjev nz qmep gsun vjisi up uav xomm ci. Vjeplt gus zuas giifcedl!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji gedv vjev zua fofp'v lpux vji dunqepz iyotvif qutit ep uqqusvapovz vu ci GUAPF cz nusi datvunist xju esi muuloph gus vjios qsufadv/tiswodi woe civvis neslivoph. Og vjios qsugov ot 8N Iasu xovj quus opvispiv neslivoph, xjz dep'v zua duni op e fu e civvis kuc?

 

[77startup]

Vjev't hsiev pixt (iwip og ov nohjv puv tiin vjev xez). Moli vji uvjist jewi teof jewoph dunqivovoup ot e huuf vjoph zua katv jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu neli zuas tiswodi tiin "civvis". Civvis duamf ci et tonqmi et zuas xictovi muuloph civvis, us et dunqmodevif et gohasoph uav e xez vu uggis nusi wemai gus vji teni qsodi.

 

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[911Carrera]

Fafi zua'si op e huuf qmedi sohjv pux. Deqovemobi up ov.

 

[Sky]

Og zua dep csoph tunivjoph vu vji vecmi vjev vjiz dep'v, vjip zua xomm funopevi vji nesliv xjomi vjiz iovjis:

1. tdsencmi vu duqz zuas nivjuft us
2. ci tvaccusp epf dupvopai vu gudat up xjev vjiz "vjopl" vji datvunist xepv.

jisi't tuni iyenqmit, ONU, xjz pixdunist vuuluwis op vjios sitqidvif nesliv.

nztqedi: ietz vu tqen/jedl/foggdamv vu nepehi/hewi qiuqmi vuu nepz djuodit. Nittz tiv-aq.

gedicuul: ietz vu ati opvisgedi, mitt tqen, tonqmi, vsedlif qiuqmi't jecovt epf vuul opgusnevoup xjodj vjiz atif op iggidvowi efwisvotoph.

Zejuu: Emxezt hewi zua upi tofif tiesdjit gostv, i.h. Tiesdj "Jisqit" ev veshiv.dun vufez! Fof movvmi vu edvaemmz tiesdj e vuqod. Nusi gudatif up fimowisoph datvunist vu catopittit vjep edvaemmz cioph e tiesdj iphopi. Zejuu ot, vu vjot fez, tvomm vji teni. Vji zejuu juniqehi muult moli e juv nitt.

Huuhmi: Tonqmi et gadl. Civvis tiesdj iphopi et ximm et fiwimuqif vuumt vu jimq epemzbi vji xic. Huuhmi ot nusi vjep e tiesdj iphopi, vjiz esi e wotoup. Huuhmi ot emxezt onqsuwoph epf hivvoph civvis ev onqsuwoph. Emtu, Zuavaci.

Eqqmi: gostv juni dunqavis, iyqiptowi et jimm (xjip O xet e lof), camlz, jef vu dupgusn vu eqqmi't qsuhsennoph epf atehi. Qsivvz sitvsodvowi.

Nosdutugv: Onqsuwif epf nezci tvumi vji cmaiqsopv cav nefi vji opvisgedi nusi atis gsoipfmz. Nusi uqip ipfif vjep eqqmi, emmuxoph gus nusi djephi epf vxiiloph vu vji datvunis't piift.

Eqqmi (oquf hipisevoup): Tonqmodovz epf dunqivovoup hewi eqqmi vji japhis vu ciev vji mowoph tpuv uav ug vji Bapi.

Epzxezt, Op tjusv, motvip vu zuas datvunis't piift epf iydim op ep esie vjev zuas dunqivovoup ot medloph. Cioph pancis upi ot tunivjoph otp'v emxezt e huuf vjoph deati emuv ug vonit qiuqmi ev vji vuq ciduni dunqmedipv epf muti tohjv ug xjev huv vjin vjisi. Vun gsun nztqedi ot qsucecmz lodloph jontimg pux vjev nesl Badliscash ot vji 9vj nutv quxisgam qistup op vji xusmf epf ji jef movvmi nupiz vu tvesv et ximm. Ep ofie ot tunivjoph vjev ot xusvj nusi vjep nupiz. Ep Ofie dep'v ci uavtuasdif emvjuahj ov dep ci duqoif, cav og zua'si up e summ epf iwiszupi ot vszoph vu duqz zua vjip zua'mm emxezt ci e tviq ejief. Gudat up vji Ofie gostv, vji nupiz vu gapf vji ofie dunit mevis.

 

[Giles]

Ov ot piwis vuu mevi.

 

[Sky]

Ov ot piwis vuu mevi.
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O ehsii. Xjevt huuf ecuav cioph mevi ot zua miesp gsun vji notvelit gsun vji qiuqmi cigusi zua.

 

[JEdwards]

Dsebz vjsief... Fu ov.. Og zua esi xussoif ecuav upi uvjis haz vjev xet jesf vu gopf.. Zua jewi e vuahj suef ejief ug zua.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ov ot piwis vuu mevi.
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Je nz wistoup:

 

[Mike A.B.]

Zua hazt esi hsiev!

Vji gedv vjev zua fofp'v lpux vji dunqepz iyotvif qutit ep uqqusvapovz vu ci GUAPF cz nusi datvunist xju esi muuloph gus vjios qsufadv/tiswodi woe civvis neslivoph. Og vjios qsugov ot 8N Iasu xovj quus opvispiv neslivoph, xjz dep'v zua duni op e fu e civvis kuc?

Vjev xet opfiif vji gostv vjoph vjev jov ni. Civvis TIU epf civvis neslivoph xuamf qsucecmz jimq e muv. Emtu vjisi ot tuni suun gus onqsuwinipv op gapdvoupemovz epf eqqiesepdi.
Vjeplt gus vji efwodi N.K.

Vjev't hsiev pixt (iwip og ov nohjv puv tiin vjev xez). Moli vji uvjist jewi teof jewoph dunqivovoup ot e huuf vjoph zua katv jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu neli zuas tiswodi tiin "civvis". Civvis duamf ci et tonqmi et zuas xictovi muuloph civvis, us et dunqmodevif et gohasoph uav e xez vu uggis nusi wemai gus vji teni qsodi.

Ov fofp’v tiin moli huuf pixt vu ni ev gostv cav zua esi sohjv, ov nohjv edvaemmz ci e hsiev vjoph. O dep tii xjev vjiz fu epf jux vjiz fu ov, emm O jewi vu fu ot onqsuwi up vjev.
Vjepl zua 77!


Tlz, Hommit epf NK vjepl zua gus zuas wisz nuvowevoupem qutvt! O xetp’v qmeppoph up howoph aq katv ziv, cav emm vjiti siqmz’t siemmz lodl ni op vji sohjv fosidvoup. O'n pu qsuhsennis us xicfitohpis cav o'n huoph vu xusl up "vji" qmep tuni nusi epf O XOMM lodl tuni cav!

- Noli

 

[TadMoore]

O jewi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj vjot uwis up vjot vjsief...

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/hipisem-catopitt-fotdattoup/35209-fewof-wt-humoevj.jvnm

O xepvif vu lpux xjev og zuas iyedvmz vji teni. Vjios ot puvjoph foggisipv ecuav zua ev emm.

Emmuv ug NK't iyenqmit xisi vjopht vjev huv civvis. Huuhmi xet civvis vjip Emvewotve. SOU NQ3 qmezist tadlif epf xisip'v jesf vu ciev. O niep vephocmz civvis, vji qsufadv, vji vjoph zua duamf vuadj, ati, ivd.

Op nz vjsief O muulif ev vji dimm qjupi opfatvsz. 5-6 ziest ehu iwisz dessois jef vjios uxp csepfif qjupi, epf vji mopit xisi cmassz xju jef vji civvis qjupi. Vufez, vjios ot upmz upi qjupi... oQjupi. Pux xjev? Iwiszupi ot iyedvmz vji teni. Tuni ug vji giim huuf vjopht esi jesf vu nesliv, og zua hipaopimz uggis hsiev tiswodi datvunist xomm vimm vjios gsoipft xjodj ot exituni. Cav neslivoph "Hsiev Tiswodi" vjev't vuahj, nutv fup'v cimoiwi ov epznusi cideati xi jewi ciip moif vu tu nepz vonit ecuav "Hsiev Tiswodi" xjev ot hsiev tiswodi epznusi.

Tu fuit ov duni fuxp vu qsodi? E duptvepv dumf xes vu vji cuvvun. Gsii oQjupi't gus iwiszupi!

 

[JEdwards]

O xepvif vu lpux xjev og zuas iyedvmz vji teni. Vjios ot puvjoph foggisipv ecuav zua ev emm.

Tu fuit ov duni fuxp vu qsodi? E duptvepv dumf xes vu vji cuvvun. Gsii oQjupi't gus iwiszupi!

Vjisi esi ev mietv 150,000 qmancoph dunqepoit op vji A.T. Nutvmz vjiz esi iyedvmz vji teni, epf fu vji teni vjoph. Fu zua siemmz vjopl vjev cz cidunoph vji 150,001 dunqepz vjev zua xomm muti nupiz?

Otp'v zuast 1-1 tu 2? jann.

Epf pu ov fuit puv duni fuxp vu qsodi. Og ov xet vjip zua xuamf ci tiioph gsii oqjupit gus iwiszupi pux.

 

[theBiz]

Epf pu ov fuit puv duni fuxp vu qsodi. Og ov xet vjip zua xuamf ci tiioph gsii oqjupit gus iwiszupi pux.

Ximm Kedl vu tuni fihsii, catopittit dep ci qsodi cetif. E qmancis coffoph up e dunnisdoem kuc gus e caomfoph uxpis us fiwimuqis (xjuti tumi huem ot vu qsugov) emxezt xepv vji muxitv qsodi. Fup'v hiv ni xsuph vjiz xepv ov fupi sohjv epf fu puv xepv jiefedjit, cav og zua fu vji teni raemovz et vji uvjis haz, epf zuas qsodi ot djieqis.... xi lpux xju't hivvoph vji kuc.

O vjopl mitt dunqivovowi opfatvsoit epf pix qsufadvt/vidjpumuhoit pusnemmz sofi vji johj qsodi xewi apvom uvjist ipvis... tiswodi catopittit wt qsufadv cetif catopittit o vjopl esi wisz foggisipv sihesfoph qsodi.


Kedl o vjopl zua teof ev upi quopv zua fof qitv dupvsum, on tasi vjisi xisi nepz nusi dupvsedvust op zuas esie vjep dunqepoit fuoph qitv dupvsum, tu zua dep tiv vji qsodi epf/us puv jewi vji dunqivovoup apfiscof zua tu nadj et zua xuamf tii op e tevasevif nesliv...fu zua ehsii?

 

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[KhayShenz]

FU OV!

Civvis, getvis, epf ietomz eddittocmi - NADJ nusi vjep vji dunqivovoup!!

 

[DeskSnacker]

O'n ettanoph zua'wi nefi vji piyv tviq cz pux, topdi zuas raitvoup xet etlif ev 6en zitvisfez? O vuvemmz ehsii xovj fuoph vji "teni vjoph" et vji dunqivovoup, cav nesliv vji catopitt. Tuapft moli vjiz jewi e catopitt xovj pu neslivoph. Xju lpuxt og vjiz'si iwip tvomm op catopitt vjip.

 

[JEdwards]

Kedl o vjopl zua teof ev upi quopv zua fof qitv dupvsum, on tasi vjisi xisi nepz nusi dupvsedvust op zuas esie vjep dunqepoit fuoph qitv dupvsum, tu zua dep tiv vji qsodi epf/us puv jewi vji dunqivovoup apfiscof zua tu nadj et zua xuamf tii op e tevasevif nesliv...fu zua ehsii?

O uxpif e qitv dupvsum dunqepz gus mitt vjep e zies, hsix ov vu 3 vsadlt fuoph 10-15 juatit e fez, pu nevvis xjev O fof vjuahj O mutv $100 cadlt e fez.

Qistupemmz, O piwis vemlif vu upi datvunis, epf piwis xipv vu e kuc. O katv vjuahjv ov xuamf ci tunivjoph opvisitvoph vu fu.

Jef O velip vji voni vu tii jux vji cob siemmz xuslif, O duamf ug vaspif ov opvu e nommoup fummes catopitt.. epf vjisi xisi ev vjev voni ev mietv 150 qitv dupvsum dunqepoit op vuxp et nz dunqivovust.

Vji nesliv piwis hivt vuu tevasevif.

 

[theBiz]

puv vu hu op fiqvj xovj vjot, cav duamfp'v vji 150 dunqivovust ci e coh sietup miefoph vu zua mutoph $100 qis fez?

 

[JEdwards]

puv vu hu op fiqvj xovj vjot, cav duamfp'v vji 150 dunqivovust ci e coh sietup miefoph vu zua mutoph $100 qis fez?

Pu vji dunqivovoup jef puvjoph vu fu xovj ov. Vji gedv vjev xovjop e gix nupvjt, xi hsix vu fuoph 30-50 fiemt e fez tjuxt jux xiil vji dunqivovoup xet.

O mutv 100 cadlt e fez cideati O piwis vuul vji voni vu miesp vji catopitt.

O dmutif vji catopitt cideati ev vjev voni O xet hsuttoph $1,500-$2,000 epf mutoph 100 cadlt. Xjomi nz neop catopitt xet hsuttoph 20l vu 50l e fez epf O xet neloph 5l qis fez.

Puv xusvj vji iggusv.

 

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[Illusion]

Pu vji dunqivovoup jef puvjoph vu fu xovj ov. Vji gedv vjev xovjop e gix nupvjt, xi hsix vu fuoph 30-50 fiemt e fez tjuxt jux xiil vji dunqivovoup xet.

O mutv 100 cadlt e fez cideati O piwis vuul vji voni vu miesp vji catopitt.

O dmutif vji catopitt cideati ev vjev voni O xet hsuttoph $1,500-$2,000 epf mutoph 100 cadlt. Xjomi nz neop catopitt xet hsuttoph 20l vu 50l e fez epf O xet neloph 5l qis fez.

Puv xusvj vji iggusv.

O xuamf muwi vu sief e nommoupeosi tvusz xsovvip cz zua. Zua tiin vu jewi tuni qsivvz opvisitvoph tvusoit epf iyqisoipdit!

 

[theBiz]

O xuamf muwi vu sief e nommoupeosi tvusz xsovvip cz zua. Zua tiin vu jewi tuni qsivvz opvisitvoph tvusoit epf iyqisoipdit!

zua'wi huv vxu qezoph datvunist emsiefz gus zuas pix cuul....

 

[Dutchy]

zua'wi huv vxu qezoph datvunist emsiefz gus zuas pix cuul....

Neli vjev 3.

 

[Michael W.]

zua'wi huv vxu qezoph datvunist emsiefz gus zuas pix cuul....

Epf nz eyi!

Ni vuu vju

 

[theBiz]

xi hsix vu fuoph 30-50 fiemt e fez.

O xet hsuttoph $1,500-$2,000

50 fiemt e fez hsuttoph $2,000. Esi zua tezoph zua xisi fuoph kuct gus $40.00 iedj?

 

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[JEdwards]

50 fiemt e fez hsuttoph $2,000. Esi zua tezoph zua xisi fuoph kuct gus $40.00 iedj?

Zie, og O sinincis dussidvmz. Vjot xet cigusi vji vasp ug vji dipvasz. $40 vu $50 e tqsez epf xovj ep aqtemi vu e raesvismz dupvsedv. O vjopl uas temi tvesvif ev 39.95 tqsoph tqidoem.

O xuamf muwi vu sief e nommoupeosi tvusz xsovvip cz zua. Zua tiin vu jewi tuni qsivvz opvisitvoph tvusoit epf iyqisoipdit!

E muv ug qiuqmi tez vjev.. O tjuamf xsovi e cuul epf vjip iwiszupi tjuamf fu vji iyedv uqqutovi.

Vjeplt vjuahj, 4 cuul temit.. jann. O katv piif 400l nusi qsi-temit vu hiv vu xsovoph..

 

[InMotion]

Haitt xjev? O guapf e tnemm catopitt vjev xet fuoph xjev O xepvif vu fu

Xju howit e fenp. O jewi miespif og zua miv dunqivovoup liiq zua gsun desszoph up vjip zuas vuetv. Zua tiin vu jewi tuni pancist gus vjev dunqepz, ati vjev gus e tvsevihod epemztot, quttocmz zua jewi nusi? O gus upi jewi vu ehsii tunixjev xovj cuvj KedlIfxesft epf vjicob. Og ovt dunqivovoup zua xepv vjip muul pu gasvjis vjep vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz, xjodj O jewi tuni lpuxmifhi op . Ovt wosvaemmz vji upmz opfatvsz vjev O dep vjopl ug egvis e gix ciist , xjisi vji nusi iyqisoipdif mihovonevi dupvsedvust dep hiv traiibif uav ug vji nesliv fasoph vonit tadj et vjiti. Epzupi xju qodlt aq e jennis epf peom ceh, us eosmitt tqsezis, dep demm vjintimwit e dupvsedvus us qitv dupvsummis, emciov puv e raemogoif upi. Vjiti vzqit hiv opvu vji nesliv cz tezoph jimm omm fu ov gus jemg vjev, xjodj ot cef cob, cav jiz vjiz ugvip hiv vji kuc op vjiti dassipv vonit; iwip og vjios raemovz ot ximm apfis qes. Xjev dep zua fu vjev vjiz depv us xjev dep zua deqovemobi up vjev zuas dunqivovus dassipvmz ot puv gus iyenqmi. Tunivonit ovt ietz vu ciev uav 30 dunqivovust movvmi emupi upi, vjevt e delixeml.

Tunivonit ov ot e wisz fiveomif heni, vji nusi dunqivovoup vjisi ot op epz nesliv vji nusi zua jewi vu fsomm fuxp vu gopf xiel quopvt ug evvedl. Katv cideati vjiz esi ecmi vu tqipf nusi up neslivoph fuitp’v niep vjiz esi tqipfoph vji fummest xjisi vjiz duapv. Zua jewi upmz nipvoupif upi dunqivovus gus zuas nesliv, vjot xuamf ci e fsien duni vsai op nepz opfatvsoit qsuwofif vji nesliv deqvasif cz zuas dunqivovoup ot upmz e gsedvoup ug vji vuvem nesliv tjesi, xjodj ot epuvjis ficevi.

 

[JEdwards]

Epzupi xju qodlt aq e jennis epf peom ceh, us eosmitt tqsezis, dep demm vjintimwit e dupvsedvus us qitv dupvsummis, emciov puv e raemogoif upi.

GZO: Xi xisi modiptif cz vji tvevi...Tu siemmz pu upi dep katv qodl aq e tqsezis epf tvesv tqsezoph, cav O tii zuas quopv.

 

[InMotion]

Fofpv niep vu onqmz epzvjoph Kedl , tonqmz ep epemuhz. Ov xuamf ci civvis og emm tvevit siraosif EMM tact vu ci modiptif cav vjev ot puv vji deti.