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Taking adderall is the fastest way to fastlane

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WHenever I take adderall my mind goes on turbo in terms of ways to take much bigger risks and make more money quicker and not waste time on the stupid bullshit wasting my time in life. It gives you extreme positivity, euphoria, and speeds up your whole body, literally putting you in the fastlane. =) .

I'll be doing my animations and then I'll be like , wait aminute why not hire someone to do this menial shit for me, or I'll have sudden epiphanies. Only problem is once the effect is gone you go back to your old way of thinking, but at least you know theres a better way and you thought of it and you may execute it. Not saying it's good to take it every day but jsut to experiment with it and change your mindset. It makes you emotionally unreactive so you make clear cut decisions and do what needs to be done instead of following your emotions. It will make you want to follow your passion less and just focus on making money instead of needing to do both.

Anyone else experience stuff like this with drugs?
 
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lol. Judging by your post; I would say you were prob on Adderall just then.

I have taken it in college; and man.... it's literally like a Magic pill. I was afraid I would get addicted to that stuff, so I would only take one or two during final exam weeks.

I self-diagnose (along with everyone else that knows me) as having ADD so it prob worked a bit better in my situation. I haven't taken one in years though; and stick to energy drinks now. Although; health-wise, I'm sure these energy drinks and Coke zeros are prob a lot worse to my liver, etc. than Adderall.

When I was watching the movie Limitless about that pill he took and grew insanely smart; it reminded me exactly of Adderall.

<disclaimer: I do not endorse taking Adderall if they are not prescribed by a physician to you, I am only telling my experience with it>
 

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WHenever I take adderall my mind goes on turbo in terms of ways to take much bigger risks and make more money quicker and not waste time on the stupid bullshit wasting my time in life. It gives you extreme positivity, euphoria, and speeds up your whole body, literally putting you in the fastlane. =) .

I'll be doing my animations and then I'll be like , wait aminute why not hire someone to do this menial shit for me, or I'll have sudden epiphanies. Only problem is once the effect is gone you go back to your old way of thinking, but at least you know theres a better way and you thought of it and you may execute it. Not saying it's good to take it every day but jsut to experiment with it and change your mindset. It makes you emotionally unreactive so you make clear cut decisions and do what needs to be done instead of following your emotions. It will make you want to follow your passion less and just focus on making money instead of needing to do both.

Anyone else experience stuff like this with drugs?


Adderall and other ADD drugs give you that feeling of euphoria because they contain the same chemical as the illegal drug meth. Like meth, they also help you stay awake for long periods of time and make you super focused so that you can get a lot of work done. The difference is that ADD meds contain a lot less of it so the effect isn't as strong and the drug itself is not as addicting. Only take it if you are actually ADD, otherwise you run the risk of becoming addicted.
 

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I think i want it again. I used to take it when i was younger but hated it. I do have trouble devoting my time to thibgs.
 

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Fierce----You just made me log in to post a reply!

I know this is controversial but Adderall is part of my office regimen and its easily created opportunity's that I am not sure I would have pursued or investigated otherwise.

I have rules with it as I do with everything. I stick to a plan and never go beyond that. Its a self control thing. If you are strong willed and mentally in tact you should be able to find the benefits without the negatives.

It is a powerful drug and needs to be respected.
 
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ya exactly. Even if adderall takes 5 years off of your life , worst case scenario, the big risks you might take on it could set you 20 years ahead and save you countless heartacks, setbacks, heartacks doing stupid shit, keep you from eating junk food thats worse for you, allow you to stay up later giving you like an extra 10 years to live if you count by hours, and a more efficient company strategy. But again you can't overdo it like toilet cake said..for me even 1 or 2 pills a week if that is enough..super low dosage and I take like 1/3 of a pill each time and it still works. Although if you want super big paradigm changes and new ideas then take a full one every now and then.lol

Like right now I'm on it and I'm thinking about quitting my animations again and going full richard brandson mode. Makes you think way more clearly in terms of weiging all the factors of what you want and what will make you happy without the bullshit emotional baggage or ego stuff holding you back. It lowers your inhibitions like alcohol but makes you more alert rather than less. its like seeing a therapist only the therapist is yourself and the therapist gives you the exact advice you need because he knows you better than you know youself, and he knows what needs to be done to succeed and give you what you really want in life. Anyone who's taken it, tell me I'm wrong. =)


My favorite use of it though is for partying as it makes my already confident social personality go through the roof and lets me party for hours if I'm ever out.
 

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Wow guys, I didn't even know this exists. Thought this thread was about some new ad network or something:)

Yeah, I'm ADD all the way, can't stand still. So what this thing does, calms you down or makes you even crazier? I wasn't able to fully grasp it from all your descriptions.

I'm sure these energy drinks and Coke zeros are prob a lot worse to my liver,

Man, don't use zero, it's bad - read the ingredients. Just enjoy the regular taste, and as you're obviously into sports, carbohydrates will find their use.

I love energy drinks too, especially tasty ones, but they can't come near in energizing power to fat burners. Now that stuff works better than it should:)
 

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Wow guys, I didn't even know this exists. Thought this thread was about some new ad network or something:)

Yeah, I'm ADD all the way, can't stand still. So what this thing does, calms you down or makes you even crazier? I wasn't able to fully grasp it from all your descriptions.


It's like that feeling you get after your first cup of coffee in the morning, except instead of fading quickly it lasts all day; the one I take lasts 10 hours which helps me stay alert through the day. Also, you feel super focused unlike how you'd normally be where your mind is jumping in a million different directions; this helps you to complete tasks. Lastly, you also feel a sense of euphoria while you are on ADD meds.

And, you can't sleep until the drug wears off and you lose your appetite while you're on the drug, which means that you no longer desire junk food. That about describes all the effects that you experience while on these drugs. Overall, I'd say they're definitely beneficial for someone with ADD. Don't listen to the naysayers who try to tell you that taking medication is wrong and that you should instead medicate with good nutrition, habits, etc.

ADD is a neurological condition and no matter how good your diet or habits are, your brain is still going to have these neurological differences that make you have ADD traits like not being able to focus on one thing, being disorganized, etc. ADD meds help you target the real problem by changing the chemistry in your brain so that your brain ends up releasing more dopamine, which will enable you to concentrate more.
 
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"The combination of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine can be habit-forming. Do not take a larger dose, take the medication more often, or take it for a longer time than prescribed by your doctor. If you take too much dextroamphetamine and amphetamine, you may find that the medication no longer controls your symptoms, you may feel a need to take large amounts of the medication, and you may experience symptoms such as rash, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep, irritability, hyperactivity, and unusual changes in your personality or behavior. Overusing dextroamphetamine and amphetamine may also cause sudden death or serious heart problems such as heart attack or stroke."

Seriously? No thanks.
 

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"The combination of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine can be habit-forming. Do not take a larger dose, take the medication more often, or take it for a longer time than prescribed by your doctor. If you take too much dextroamphetamine and amphetamine, you may find that the medication no longer controls your symptoms, you may feel a need to take large amounts of the medication, and you may experience symptoms such as rash, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep, irritability, hyperactivity, and unusual changes in your personality or behavior. Overusing dextroamphetamine and amphetamine may also cause sudden death or serious heart problems such as heart attack or stroke."

Seriously? No thanks.



Abusing any drug can kill you. If you take 20 Advils or Tylenols at once you will most likely die. ADD meds are mild amphetamines; they speed up your heart rate but it's not by much if you take the amount prescribed to you by your psychiatrist; that's why I said that only people with ADD should take it as they are actually given a prescription to use it and their doctor can give them the proper dosage for their body size and heart health.
 

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I wish Adderall was sold in my country, Ritalin makes me feel uneasy so I use it very rarely.
 
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Through different parts of my life I have been on every ADD and anti depressant drug known to man. In the end I said screw this shit and just changed my lifestyle and what I eat and it does just as good. In 99% of cases ADD is an excuse to sell more drugs. The school wanted to put my youngest son on Ritalin I told them to go screw themselves, now he is 11 and just fine with no drugs, he writes his own music some of it pretty good and is starting to get into programming, Java and c++ at the moment and that's at 11. If I had put him on Ritalin he would be an 11 year old zombie, screw that. I had my run with energy drinks too, for me the first couple weeks are great, then I get to where I am drinking 3 or 4 per day and they blow my concentration to shit so I swore those off too.
 

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Ya nobody should abuse it, in fact I'm gonna stop taking it altogether soon, and make sure you don't have an abusive personality so you aren't the kind of person that can't stop. Just take it a few times to change your perspective on life and you could save yourself years of bullshit ways of living.

Here's a video parody that shows what happens on adderall..only it's accurate

Adderall - YouTube
 

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I wish Adderall was sold in my country, Ritalin makes me feel uneasy so I use it very rarely.


Did you take the quick release Ritalin? My psychiatrist started me off on the quick release ritalin and I had the same jittery and uneasy feeling, and I had headaches. Then he switched me to the slow release kind and it works perfectly; no jittery feeling, no headaches, etc. and I still get the same benefits of focusing well.

Quick release Ritalin - Lasts about 4 hours so you have to take two a day. It's a heavier dose that releases fast so it can cause a jittery/uneasy feeling, as well as headaches.

Slow release Ritalin - Lasts about 10 hours so you only need to take one per day, to get your through your work day.
 
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ADD is a neurological condition and no matter how good your diet or habits are, your brain is still going to have these neurological differences that make you have ADD traits like not being able to focus on one thing, being disorganized, etc. ADD meds help you target the real problem by changing the chemistry in your brain so that your brain ends up releasing more dopamine, which will enable you to concentrate more.

This is wrong on so many levels.

I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was around 14 years old. Hyperactive kid, can't focus, the whole package. I never took any drugs but I did Neurofeedback therapy which helped me a lot with school (look it up).

I also saw the effects the drugs had on other kids, they got really messed up. Looking at where in life they are now I am really glad I never took the drugs... A lot of them ended up doing real drugs...

Think of ADD as Hunter/Gatherer. ADD kids are the hunters. How can you call something a neurological condition if like 50% of the population has it (a lot of cases go undiagnosed and people think of them as just being dumb etc).

And saying that ADD people can't concentrate on a single thing is completely wrong. Have you ever tried to talk to an ADD kid playing a computer game? They are so immersed they can't even hear you.

Of course they can't concentrate on schoolwork, it's boring. But if something is interesting they outperform non ADD kids by far.

Just because ADD people don't fit into the school system does not mean it's something bad. I believe ADD is a gift for an entrepreneur. Because when you do something interesting, it's easy to go into the zone and get stuff done.

I still highly recommend Neurofeedback, it gets rid of that "cloud in your head" and makes concentrating on boring tasks easier. But it's something your brain learns to do. It's not like the drugs who F*ck with your head and rob you of all the advantages ADD has.

Short version: Do NOT take any drugs for ADD
 

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This is wrong on so many levels.

I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was around 14 years old. Hyperactive kid, can't focus, the whole package. I never took any drugs but I did Neurofeedback therapy which helped me a lot with school (look it up).

I also saw the effects the drugs had on other kids, they got really messed up. Looking at where in life they are now I am really glad I never took the drugs... A lot of them ended up doing real drugs...

Think of ADD as Hunter/Gatherer. ADD kids are the hunters. How can you call something a neurological condition if like 50% of the population has it (a lot of cases go undiagnosed and people think of them as just being dumb etc).


False. Only 4-8% of children have ADHD and 2/3rds of those children continue to have it into adulthood so about 3-6% of the adult population have the condition. ADHD can actually be measured in the brain. Studies have been done where the brains of children who are diagnosed with ADHD are compared to those without ADHD and it's clear that those with ADHD have real neurological differences; certain parts of their brains are smaller than normal. This video goes into it in a little more detail:


[video=youtube;273Os74Rtw4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=273Os74Rtw4&feature=related[/video]


And saying that ADD people can't concentrate on a single thing is completely wrong. Have you ever tried to talk to an ADD kid playing a computer game? They are so immersed they can't even hear you.


Of course they can't concentrate on schoolwork, it's boring. But if something is interesting they outperform non ADD kids by far.

That's a well known aspect of ADHD. It's called "hyperfocusing". Children with ADHD can maintain their attention for long periods of time on things which they find interesting like video games but this presents a problem because they'll play for hours and hours and not do their homework. Also, it's false that they perform better than non-ADD kids at video games.

While ADD kids can be fixated with video games, they actually perform worse than non-ADD kids at video games based on studies that have been conducted; the non-ADD kid will do the boring parts of the video games while the ADD kid will only want to do the fun parts, so as they play the non-ADD kids will gain more experience and be better at the game.


Just because ADD people don't fit into the school system does not mean it's something bad. I believe ADD is a gift for an entrepreneur. Because when you do something interesting, it's easy to go into the zone and get stuff done.

I still highly recommend Neurofeedback, it gets rid of that "cloud in your head" and makes concentrating on boring tasks easier. But it's something your brain learns to do. It's not like the drugs who F*ck with your head and rob you of all the advantages ADD has.

Short version: Do NOT take any drugs for ADD


I've actually taken ADD meds, unlike you, so I know that they don't turn you into a zombie or take away any abilities that you have. You will still be just as interested in all the things that you found to be fun before but the meds will help you to concentrate on tasks that you would normally find boring, so that you can get them completed. I've read lots of literature on ADHD and I have many books on the topic so I can debunk every single one of your claims. I suggest you watch some more videos by Dr. Russell Barkley, who is one of the most respected researchers of the condition. His own brother had ADHD before he died due to a car accident from not wearing his seat belt.

Regarding your claim that ADHD is a gift or that it gives you a natural entrepreneurial advantage, this video debunks that claim.


[video=youtube;4xpEBE9VDWw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xpEBE9VDWw[/video]
 

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I've been hesitating to chime in here because I don't care to argue.
I get kids, teens, and adults off of their medication through mental
and physical training. Agree or disagree, I make it happen. I only
care about results.

I would take a look at your diet. Gluten can/is one of the major
causes of the lack of focus. While you may not have Celiacs per-se,
It might be one of the major causes.

I doubt you are looking for a solution that isn't a drug or "quick fix"
but anyone taking this "medication" should realize what it is. If you
think it's just medication - you better do some real research.

And before you go spouting off what is in the news or popular
opinion - do your own research. Results are the only thing that matters.

Whatever you decide, good luck.
 

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Isnt there a big difference between add and adhd?


In children, but not so much in adults. There are two main types: the inattentive type which are typically the kids who daydream all the time and can't stay focused for long on things which they consider boring. Then, there's the hyperactive type which is the type of kid typically portrayed in the media; the ones that are jumping around and can't sit still. However, the hyperactivity in these kids tends to fade by adulthood and they then become more like the ADD kids; their minds become restless but not so much their bodies. Any hyperactivity that remains in them will be minor, such as needing to tap their feet while sitting, etc.

ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) - Daydreamer type
ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) - Hyper type
 
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Following is a very relevant excerpt from Sir Ken Robinson's TED talk, "Do schools kill creativity?"

[video=youtube;iG9CE55wbtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY[/video]

The video itself could be the subject of a whole thread in itself, but for this discussion, please focus only on the part between 15:09-17:48 which corresponds to the excerpt below.

I’m doing a new book at the moment called Epiphany which is based on a series of interviews with people about how they discovered their talent. I’m fascinated by how people got to be there. It’s really prompted by a conversation I had with a wonderful woman who maybe most people have never heard of, she’s called Gillian Lynne, have you heard of her? Some have. She’s a choreographer and everybody knows her work. She did Cats, and Phantom of the Opera, she’s wonderful. I used to be on the board of the Royal Ballet, in England, as you can see, and Gillian and I had lunch one day and I said Gillian, how’d you get to be a dancer? And she said it was interesting, when she was at school, she was really hopeless. And the school, in the 30s, wrote her parents and said, “We think Gillian has a learning disorder.” She couldn’t concentrate, she was fidgeting. I think now they’d say she had ADHD. Wouldn’t you? But this was the 1930s and ADHD hadn’t been invented at this point. It wasn’t an available condition. People weren’t aware they could have that.

Anyway she went to see this specialist, in this oak-paneled room, and she was there with her mother and she was led and sat on a chair at the end, and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes while this doctor talked to her mother about all the problems Gillian was having at school. And at the end of it — because she was disturbing people, her homework was always late, and so on, little kid of 8 — in the end, the doctor went and sat next to Gillian and said, “Gillian I’ve listened to all these things that your mother’s told me, and I need to speak to her privately.” He said, “Wait here, we’ll be back, we won’t be very long,” and they went and left her.

But as they went out the room, he turned on the radio that was sitting on his desk, and when they got out the room, he said to her mother, “Just stand and watch her.” And the minute they left the room, she said, she was on her feet, moving to the music. And they watched for a few minutes and he turned to her mother and said, “Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn’t sick; she’s a dancer. Take her to a dance school.

I said, “What happened?”

She said, “She did. I can’t tell you how wonderful it was. We walked in this room and it was full of people like me, people who couldn’t sit still. People who had to move to think.” Who had to move to think. They did ballet, they did tap, they did jazz, they did modern, they did contemporary. She was eventually auditioned for the Royal Ballet School, she became a soloist, she had a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet, she eventually graduated from the Royal Ballet School and founded her own company, the Gillian Lynne Dance Company, and met Andrew Lloyd Weber.

She’s been responsible for some of the most successful musical theater productions in history, she’s given pleasure to millions, and she’s a multimillionaire.

Somebody else might have put her on medication and told her to calm down.
 
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Please take a moment to read or watch my post above. On the topic of ADD/ADHD specifically, I personally believe that we are over-medicated as a society.

Sure, there are real diseases and health problems that require real medication, but ADD/ADHD are not among those. No offense to anyone here, but I'm convinced that ADD/ADHD is a made-up disease for pharmaceutical profit. Ritalin is one of the most over-prescribed and wrongly-prescribed medications in the US. People are looking for a quick fix and doctors are equally quick to chime in like the Apple iOS slogan, that "there's a drug for that." Whatever supposed symptom you have, just take the pill and you'll be good. And if you watch the commercials on TV, you'll think your life will be all magical and happy and bright with the medication.

I've been 'diagnosed' with ADD, ADHD, depression, and anxiety as well. I was prescribed adderall and zoloft when I was 14, but my mom was smart enough to not let me take it at that young of an age. Did I want to take it? Yes, but in retrospect I realize how it would have killed my creativity. But then again, I'm sure most people could be diagnosed given the types of questions asked. All you need is an inkling of thought about these symptoms, go to a doctor, and boom, you're diagnosed. The questions are formulated in a way that it makes it pretty difficult to NOT get diagnosed with something.

Quite honestly, think of how many of the wealthiest entrepreneurs would have never existed if someone simply put them on medication. What if Bill Gates took adderall and stayed in college? And he is just one of many who were thought of as not being able to focus, not being smart enough in school, or etc. who turned around and proved society wrong. You have to question what it is that you're not able to focus at… The reason I think so many of you/us here may have felt this way is because it's a common trait among entrepreneurs. Lack of focus in school is one of the biggest drives toward these types of medications… and coincidentally, most very successful entrepreneurs never finished school.

How many successful entrepreneurs can you name who have PhD's?

Going back to myself, I should disclose that I am on medication for anxiety. Without the meds I would have profuse sweating, running to the bathroom all the time, catching colds more easily, feeling hot, hair pulling, and occasional panic attacks. Although I have a lot of physical symptoms, I also would have what an anxiety diagnosis would label as 'racing thoughts' or an ADHD diagnosis would label 'lack of focus' but those helped me to see opportunity where others saw problems. When I was in highschool, pre-2000, I was working on a web lifestyle magazine and already had some revenue coming in. I was winning Flash animation contests online, and starting programming on my own…and I had ZERO problems focusing on those things.

But coming from a family where everyone is a doctor, or at least has a masters I was forced to go to college, even though I didn't want to, and try to "find something you like" to study. I hated it, I couldn't focus if my life depended on it. I got depressed, etc. And then came medication, which helped me to stay in school and graduate after struggling for 7 years on what should be a simple 4 year degree.

While it does give you a sense of artificial 'focus' you become robotic and just do without thinking. It makes you feel numb, and almost zombie-like, indifferent to emotion with it. I used to feel more anger, which was the fuel for a lot of my energy and drive. Now I'm struggling to 'try' and dislike my job. Reading MFL has certainly helped instill some of the passion back in me. I've of course also been trying to wean myself off the medication gradually to a point where the physical symptoms are bearable without completely destroying my entrepreneurial spirit mentally.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents and personal experience with this stuff. Medication is okay if you really think you need it, but it shouldn't be a crutch, and it's most definitely not the answer.
 

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Are you aware that the guy you are quoting is sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry?

I won't bother arguing, not worth my time.


I already knew that. However, unlike you I don't perceive the pharmaceutical industry as some great evil. Like any industry, there are some harmful products and some beneficial ones. ADHD drugs are not harmful if taken as prescribed and only to people who legitimately have ADHD or ADD.

However, even the psychiatrists and psychologists who don't advocate medication for ADHD believe that it's a serious issue that has to do with neurological deficiencies. Your position is some kind of hippie mumbo jumbo, feel good crap about how people with ADHD are just misunderstood.

Whenever someone attacks drugs as treatment for ADHD, it's almost always someone who has never taken them themselves, as you yourself admitted, but feels they can pass judgement on an issue which they know nothing about.
 

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Darkside,
You and I have the same view on the medical field.

I once bought piracetam, it's a nootropic which is supposed to help the brain neurons connect better, and so it was a less-research medication because it's on the cutting edge. You might be interested in it. It just gave me more vivid dreams though, and better senses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam

But I believe people who wants to purchase adderall should take it because if it helps them in daily life then more power to them. I highly doubt it will make me less creative, hell I have too much creativity, so if it takes away that for some self-discipline and energy then awesome. Still, you have to get a prescription for adderall.
 

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I've been hesitating to chime in here because I don't care to argue.
I get kids, teens, and adults off of their medication through mental
and physical training. Agree or disagree, I make it happen. I only
care about results.

I would take a look at your diet. Gluten can/is one of the major
causes of the lack of focus. While you may not have Celiacs per-se,
It might be one of the major causes.

I doubt you are looking for a solution that isn't a drug or "quick fix"
but anyone taking this "medication" should realize what it is. If you
think it's just medication - you better do some real research.

And before you go spouting off what is in the news or popular
opinion - do your own research. Results are the only thing that matters.

Whatever you decide, good luck.

Well said. Gluten is neurotoxic even for non-celiacs. People just don't realize it because they walk around, drugged, unknowable. We live in a physical word, and physics / chemistry impacts us more than we realize.

The clarity, poise, grounded focus you can get by tweaking your diet are MAJOR tools in whatever quest you may undertake, fastlane or otherwise.

I would say, to everyone who cares, drop gluten and casein for 30 days, and wonder how you could live in this state until now. You'll feel like the sober guy in drunken city.

Speed+ Kung Fu Steve!
 
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I agree with Kung FU Steve, it is not a "medication".

ADD and ADHD are two polar opposites, you all are getting them mixed up here. Adult ADD is fairly common since our bodies aren't designed to sit in front of a computer for hours on end. That makes most folks thing they are ADD when in fact ADD is neurological when the frontal lobe that controls your focus and concentration is slower than then rest of your brain, causing your mind to run in the background with no focus.

Adderall is not METH, LOL. Meth-amphetamines do have their main ingredient in common and that's amphetamines. Adderall is a dose of amphetamine salts which will speed up the frontal lobe of your brain giving you the euphoria of focus (because you couldn't experience it before) but in turn it speeds everything else up. Immediate side effects seem to be increased sex drive, racing heart, weightloss from loss of appetite. As always with any drug there are larger more inherent risks.

I do agree we are an over medicated society, one that has such significant damages because the access to drugs is so easy that our habit forming tendencies take over.

If you plan on taking adderall or any other performance enhancing(lol) drug (including caffiene) Make sure you take drug holidays and use it when you need it. Talk yourself out of it when you want to take it just to get the feeling or think you have some practical application when you really are just trying to convince yourself that you somehow need it.
 

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