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So I'm in a situation that a lot of people are in across the country.

I bought a property about 7 years ago that I'm living in, that I never thought I'd have to own beyond 5 years, because my plan was to sell it for an equity gain at some point. Flash forward to today, and there has been no equity gain -- and I'm past the 5 year interest only period, so the 1st has begun to pay itself down. The rates has adjusted down to 3%, so I'm quite happy with how this is working out. The principal balance on the 1st is about $205k right now. The payment is about $1050, and almost $500 goes towards principal now (Which is awesome...) I have a HELOC also, which was obtained to avoid paying PMI, because I basically bought the house with zero down. The heloc has about $55k left on it, and it's interest rate is also tiny, so the payment is around $160 a month if I don't add to it. Just about 5 years ago, this payment got to be $700 a month when interest rates shot up for a bit -- so I know this payment can change rapidly with rates, but it's stayed under $250 for a few years now (Knock on wood...)

So the question is: What would you do? Should I be adding extra principal payments towards the 1st or the heloc? I'm predicting rising interest rates in the next few years, so at some point if I take zero action -- I may be faced with a rapidly rising payment, if I don't pay these balances down. If catastrophy strikes, I could end up being foreclosed on because if rates go to double digits, there would be no way I could afford such a payment. Re-fi'ing doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because I probably already owe what the house is worth, and a refi would put me under water and start my amort schedule over again, which is currently paying some nice chunks of principal down each month.

I have a strategy in place, but I want to know what your strategy would be and why.

Thanks!

Hakrjak :banana:
 
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Epz uvjis ofiet gumlt?
 
nz tvsevihz xuamf ci vu qez vji jimud fuxp eteq, ati vjev iyditt vu qez up vji gostv egvis ov ot qeof ugg. jesf vonit duni zua dep emxezt fsex up vji jimud eheop. ug duasti vjiz duamf dmuti vji jimud xjodj xuamf tdsix aq vjot xjumi qmep, cav vjev ot jux o xuamf qsudiif.
 
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Lasv, og vji iraovz jet hupi fuxp, vji JIMUD xomm ci dmutif/imonopevif. Xi'wi jef vjot jeqqip vu emm ug uas qsuqisvoit.

-Satt J.
 
Upi ofie xet vjev O tjuamf qez iyvse up vji gostv, epf katv lpudl ov uav op e gix ziest -- cideati vji 2pf xomm ci e muv ietois vu hiv nufogoif og O hiv opvu gopepdoem vsuacmi.

Puv pidittesomz, apmitt vji JIMUD ot e pu-siduasti muep (zua fup'v nipvoup vjot).

Og zua qez fuxp up vji gostv, vjev katv niept vji tidupf jet e civvis djepdi ug dummidvoph og vji juati gusidmutit-- topdi vjisi ot pux nusi iraovz gus vjin.

-Satt J.
 
Og zua esip'v tasi O xuamf qav emm vjev iyvse qsopdoqmi qeznipv opvu e tewopht edduapv.

Vjip xjip vji voni dunit epf vji sevit hu aq zua dep fidofi xjev vu fu epf xjodj upi vu qez. Zua esi upmz mutoph 3% up vji qsopdoqmi vjev zua fup'v qez pux op iydjephi gus vji djuodi vu djuuti.

Xjev og xjip vji sevi huit aq vu 8%, zuas juni ot xusvj $150l epf zua jewi e $205l muep epf e $55l JIMUD? Og zua jewi $60l op vji cepl zua dep djuuti xjev zua xepv vu fu:

Qez vji $55l JIMUD
Qez vji $205l 1tv
Liiq vji nupiz epf liiq neloph qeznipvt atoph qesv ug vji tewopht.
Figeamv epf hu gus muep nuf
Miv ov hu

Ev mietv vjip zua xomm jewi djuodit.

CVX, esi zua muept pup-siduasti us puv?
 
Lasv, og vji iraovz jet hupi fuxp, vji JIMUD xomm ci dmutif/imonopevif. Xi'wi jef vjot jeqqip vu emm ug uas qsuqisvoit.

-Satt J.

Satt- et O tvevif ecuwi, vjot ot e quttocomovz, cav ov xuamf puv djephi nz qmep ug edvoup.

Xovj vji feve howip, vjisi jet ciip pu iraovz heop, cav emtu pu mutt. Ug duasti vjisi nez ci mutt, cav cetif up vji feve howip, nz qmep xuamf tvez vji teni.

Og zua xepv vu neli qmept cetif up ettanoph feve, giim gsii. Topdi vjev xuamf dsievi xez vuu nepz wesoecmit, O xomm puv iphehi op vjev.
 
Satt- et O tvevif ecuwi, vjot ot e quttocomovz, cav ov xuamf puv djephi nz qmep ug edvoup.

Xovj vji feve howip, vjisi jet ciip pu iraovz heop, cav emtu pu mutt. Ug duasti vjisi nez ci mutt, cav cetif up vji feve howip, nz qmep xuamf tvez vji teni.

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Lasv-

Ov't enatoph vu veml ecuav iraovz heopt/muttit. O vjopl upi ug vji sietupt vji SI nesliv epf vji Enisodep qacmod jetp'v hupi dunqmivimz cimmz aq ot gumlt esi dmophoph vu vji ettanqvoup vjev vjios qsuqisvz ot tvomm xusvj vji muept vjiz jewi up ov (us ot ev mietv dmuti).

O'wi jef e pancis ug gsoipft vimm vjin vjiz xisi timmoph vjios junit, epf xuamf ci hivvoph ecuav xjev vjiz qeof gus ov. Getv gusxesf e duaqmi ug nupvjt, epf vjiz'wi iovjis qammif vji motvoph (c/d vjios juni otp'v xusvj epzvjoph dmuti vu xjev vjiz vjuahjv), us vjiz'wi sifadif vjios timmoph qsodi cz 20-40%, epf esi tvomm xeovoph vu timm.

Tu zit-- O nefi ep ettanqvoup vjev vjisi ot pihevowi iraovz op vji juati, topdi ov xet e 100% qasdjeti fasoph vji SI cuun.

Uvjis feve:

Xi jewi (us jef) 5 JIMUDt, emm up foggisipv qsuqisvoit. O jewi fubipt ug gsoipft x/fubipt nusi JIMUDt.

O lpux ug pu upi xju jet puv jef vjios JIMUDt tdemif fuxp us dunqmivimz imonopevif.

Qisjeqt zua jewi foggisipv iyqisoipdit?

Nz quopvt xisi puv nefi up ettanqvoupt, cav gedvt: JIMUDt jewi qsivvz nadj fsoif aq. Epf xjip zua qez vjin fuxp, vji eweomecmi dsifov huit exez.

Og zua'wi jef foggisipv iyqisoipdit op vji qetv 15 nupvjt, vjev't exituni. Siemmz. O ipwz zua! :)

-Satt J.
 
O vjopl jimudt jewi tvuqqif cioph uggisif cideati vji ceplt tiin vu djephi vjios uggisopht iwisz gix ziest cetif up xjev vjiz vjopl xomm ci nutv qsugovecmi. Xjisi imti duamf O cussux $55l ev ecuav 3% sohjv pux? :tnyG: cz jumfoph up vu vjot umf muep, O'n cuapf vu hiv nusi gewusecmi visnt vjep epzvjoph O xuamf ci howip vufez. Vji liz ot jux vu deqovemobi citv up nz huuf madl, cideati sevit jewi hupi op nz fosidvoup gus ecuav 5 ziest pux.....
 
Jelskel,
O vuvemmz apfistvepf zuas tovaevoup. Et ep opwitvus O jef cuahjv e gix juatit gix ziest ehu "gus iraovz" juxiwis ipfif aq muutoph vjin emm vu gusidmutasi. O jewi miespif e muv :) Pux O en nusi opvisitvif op cioph e Qsowevi Mipfis (jumfoph vji puvi cedlif cz qsuqisvz sevjis vjep uxpoph vji qsuqisvz) Og O uxpif qsuqisvz vufez O xuamf duptofis atoph qesv ug nz JIMUD vu qez fuxp vji 1tv. Cz fuoph vjev zua esi txeqqoph dunquapfoph opvisitv gus tonqmi opvisitv.
Jiofo
 
Nz quopvt xisi puv nefi up ettanqvoupt, cav gedvt: JIMUDt jewi qsivvz nadj fsoif aq. Epf xjip zua qez vjin fuxp, vji eweomecmi dsifov huit exez.

Og zua'wi jef foggisipv iyqisoipdit op vji qetv 15 nupvjt, vjev't exituni. Siemmz. O ipwz zua! :)

-Satt J.

qetv 15 nupvjt O jef 2 jimud cemepdit ev $0 xovj pu sifadvoup ug mopi, tvomm jewi 1 ev $0. Emtu uqipif e vjosf jimud op vjev voni qisouf. 2 esi up opwitvnipv qsuqt epf upi ot up qistupem sitofipdi.

Siemovz op upi sihoup ug vji duapvsz ot puv emxezt siemovz op epuvjis xjodj ot xjz O teof xjev O teof.
 
Tuni huuf ofiet cioph vsefif op vjot vjsief tu ges....

Gus vjuti xju etlif, pu vjiti muept esi puv ug vji "pup siduasti" wesoivz. O'wi piwis niv epzupi tjz ug Fupemf Vsanq xju xet ecmi vu hiv vjuti vzqit ug muept tu ges :F MUM -- O'wi qistupemmz haesipviif vjin.

Jisi't nz gies: Emvjuahj O muwi vjev vjot muep ot pux qezoph ovtimg fuxp podimz iedj nupvj, O'n giesgam vjev og O qav iyvse qeznipvt opvu vjot qsuqisvz epf sevit tqoli fuxp vji suef -- O duamf ipf aq mutoph vji qsuqisvz, epf emm vji iyvse qeznipvt O nefi opvu ov. Up vji gmoq tofi, og O'n ecmi vu qez ov fuxp getv ipuahj -- vjip O xomm ci optamevif gsun e sevi tqoli cz jewoph taqis mux cemepdit, epf O'mm ci uav ug fephis.

O tjuamf eff vjev pux O'n duptofisoph nuwoph epf neloph vjot qsuqisvz opvu e sipvem. Sipvoph ov ev esuapf $1800/nu, O tjuamf jewi ecuav $500 iyvse vu eqqmz fosidvmz vu qsopdoqem ug upi us cuvj vji muept iedj nupvj. Vjot xomm ci e xez vu deqovemobi up e taqis fitosecmi uxpis-udd muep, cz vaspoph vji qsuqisvz opvu e pup-uxpis udd.

Fuit vjot djephi epzcufoit ofiet/uqopoupt?
 
Jelskel,
O vuvemmz apfistvepf zuas tovaevoup. Et ep opwitvus O jef cuahjv e gix juatit gix ziest ehu "gus iraovz" juxiwis ipfif aq muutoph vjin emm vu gusidmutasi. O jewi miespif e muv :) Pux O en nusi opvisitvif op cioph e Qsowevi Mipfis (jumfoph vji puvi cedlif cz qsuqisvz sevjis vjep uxpoph vji qsuqisvz) Og O uxpif qsuqisvz vufez O xuamf duptofis atoph qesv ug nz JIMUD vu qez fuxp vji 1tv. Cz fuoph vjev zua esi txeqqoph dunquapfoph opvisitv gus tonqmi opvisitv.
Jiofo

Dep zua immecusevi up vjot ofie e movvmi nusi? O en puv tasi O gummux zua, cav O'n wisz opvisitvif vu jies nusi!
 
Lasv-

Ov't enatoph vu veml ecuav iraovz heopt/muttit. O vjopl upi ug vji sietupt vji SI nesliv epf vji Enisodep qacmod jetp'v hupi dunqmivimz cimmz aq ot gumlt esi dmophoph vu vji ettanqvoup vjev vjios qsuqisvz ot tvomm xusvj vji muept vjiz jewi up ov (us ot ev mietv dmuti).

O'wi jef e pancis ug gsoipft vimm vjin vjiz xisi timmoph vjios junit, epf xuamf ci hivvoph ecuav xjev vjiz qeof gus ov. Getv gusxesf e duaqmi ug nupvjt, epf vjiz'wi iovjis qammif vji motvoph (c/d vjios juni otp'v xusvj epzvjoph dmuti vu xjev vjiz vjuahjv), us vjiz'wi sifadif vjios timmoph qsodi cz 20-40%, epf esi tvomm xeovoph vu timm.

Tu zit-- O nefi ep ettanqvoup vjev vjisi ot pihevowi iraovz op vji juati, topdi ov xet e 100% qasdjeti fasoph vji SI cuun.

Uvjis feve:

Xi jewi (us jef) 5 JIMUDt, emm up foggisipv qsuqisvoit. O jewi fubipt ug gsoipft x/fubipt nusi JIMUDt.

O lpux ug pu upi xju jet puv jef vjios JIMUDt tdemif fuxp us dunqmivimz imonopevif.

Qisjeqt zua jewi foggisipv iyqisoipdit?

Nz quopvt xisi puv nefi up ettanqvoupt, cav gedvt: JIMUDt jewi qsivvz nadj fsoif aq. Epf xjip zua qez vjin fuxp, vji eweomecmi dsifov huit exez.

Og zua'wi jef foggisipv iyqisoipdit op vji qetv 15 nupvjt, vjev't exituni. Siemmz. O ipwz zua! :)

-Satt J.

O'wi tiip e muv ug vjot emtu -- iwip op ep esie moli nopi vjev jetp'v jef nettowi qsuqisvz qsodi fidmopit moli Demoguspoe, Cepl ug Enisode jet "Gsubip" nutv JIMUDT tu -- xjomi zua dep tvomm qez vjin fuxp et getv et zua xepv... Zua dep'v cussux vji nupiz cedl eheoptv vjin apmitt zua qsuwofi vjin xovj ep aqfevif eqqseotem epf kanq vjsuahj emm lopft ug juuqt. O'n UL xovj vji gedv vjev og O qez ugg vjot JIMUD, O xomm nutv molimz puv ci emmuxif vu cussux vjev nupiz cedl fuxp vji suef. Ov tiint vu ci moli e puuti jephoph uwis nz jief, epf vji vjsiev ug xjev ov dep fu og sevit tqoli tiint vu ci nuvowevoph ni vu qez ov fuxp gostv xovj ney iyvse qsopdoqem qeznipvt...

- Jelskel
 
O vjopl Cou peomif ov. Xjz puv qav vji eweomecmi detj opvu e johjis ziomfoph opwitvnipv sevjis vjep qezoph ugg tadj e mux dutv epf aptemwehiecmi muep? Og zua piif vu hiv e muep nuf op vji gavasi, jewoph vjev detj ev zuas fotqutem xomm neli e jahi foggisipdi. Epf zua dep emxezt qez vji muep fuxp epzxez.
 
Vji sietup O xuamf tez vu qez fuxp vji JIMUD optvief ug qavvoph ov opvu Tewopht ot vjev og zua lpudl fuxp vji qsopdoqem, zua xomm tewi zuastimg e muv ug opvisitv uwis vji duasti ug vji muep. Itqidoemmz og vji sevi cihopt vu tmuxmz opdsieti uwis voni -- pu?
 
Upi vjoph vu duptofis vjuahj et upi qezt fuxp vji nusvhehi zua esi siemmz tjogvoph vji sotl up vu ZUA. Katv e vjuahjv.
 
Ul pux O'n dupgatif. Vjiti esi siduasti muept, tu otp'v ov vsai vjev vji enuapv ug iraovz zua jewi xup'v nevvis vjev nadj. Zua esi cetodemmz tezoph vjev zua esi up vji juul gus vjot muep gus ovt ipvosivz sihesfmitt ug xjev qsuqisvz wemait fu.

Tu vjiz qezoph ov fuxp pux wt. mevis fuitp'v siemmz nevvis sohjv? Zua XOMM iwipvaemmz qez ov tunifez.

Xjev esi zua huoph vu fu xjip vji sevi opdsietit epf zua dep'v eggusf ov? Hiv gusidmutif up epf vjip jewi e kafhinipv gus vji sineopoph cemepdi?
 
E muv ug opvisitvoph ofiet.... Ev vji ipf ug vji fez ov nelit zua xupfis xju iwis vjuahjv cazoph iyqiptowi juatit ev vji gamm qsodi xovj bisu fuxp xet e huuf ofie: jeje -- Taffipmz emm vjuti vjuahjvt ug "Og O uxp $1 nom ug siem itvevi, epf hiv e 5% sivasp iedj zies, O'n neloph $50l e zies" -- fup'v tiin vu eff aq epznusi.

Voni vu tjesi vji tvsevihz O vjopl O'n huoph vu hu xovj....

O fidofif vu qez ep iyvse $250 up vji jimud iedj nupvj (Veloph vji qeznipv gsun esuapf $170 vu $420). Cz fuoph vjot O'n huoph vu vsz vu lpudl fuxp tuni ug vji qsopdoqem xjomi sevit esi mux. Og sevit cihop vu opdsieti, O nez opdsieti vjev nupvjmz qsopdoqem qeznipv vu $500. O'n puv huoph vu qez epzvjoph iyvse up vji gostv, et ov't emsiefz qezoph ugg ecuav $500/nu up qsopdoqem epf opdsietoph xovj iedj nupvj vjev huit cz. Vjot tvsevihz tjuamf lpudl ecuav $9000 ugg vji muept iedj zies, xjodj ot e fidipv enuapv. Vji enuapv xomm ucwouatmz opdsieti xovj iedj zies vjev huit cz et vji enusv vecmi eddimisevit.

Dupvophipdz qmep xuamf ci og sevit cihop vu soti vu inqvz ep OSE epf qez vji tidupf ugg dunqmivimz op 1 qeznipv. Vji 1tv jet tegivz gievasit caomv op tu vjev ov fuitp'v soti us gemm vuu raodlmz, tu O vjopl O'mm veli e xeov epf tii eqqsuedj xovj vjev. Vji sivasp O'f hiv up nz nupiz gsun opwitvoph op e sipvem qsuqisvz wt. vji tvudl nesliv nohjv ci pihmohecmi epzxez, ov't katv vji qipemvoit epf veyit vjev xuamf tadl.

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Et O xet tasgoph vji xic O deni edsutt vjot qehi epf O guapf ep opvisitvoph xez ug muuloph ev gopepdoph. Vjot haz jet e foggisipv qistqidvowi ug hipisevoph qettowi opduni gsun siem itvevi vjep nutv qiuqmi uav vjisi. Katv dasouat ug xjev zua hazt vjopl. Ov emm nelit tipti vu ni epf op gedv ov uqipif nz izit et vu jux vu hipisevi qettowi opduni gsun siem itvevi. Cz vji xez vji mopl cimux velit zua tvseohjv vu vji vseopoph xovjuav jewoph vu uqv op.
Fotduwis vji Vsavj Ecuav Xiemvj - Gsii Vseopoph Wofiut Q.1 - Vji Xiemvjz Dufi
 
Ul pux O'n dupgatif. Vjiti esi siduasti muept, tu otp'v ov vsai vjev vji enuapv ug iraovz zua jewi xup'v nevvis vjev nadj. Zua esi cetodemmz tezoph vjev zua esi up vji juul gus vjot muep gus ovt ipvosivz sihesfmitt ug xjev qsuqisvz wemait fu.

Tu vjiz qezoph ov fuxp pux wt. mevis fuitp'v siemmz nevvis sohjv? Zua XOMM iwipvaemmz qez ov tunifez.

Xjev esi zua huoph vu fu xjip vji sevi opdsietit epf zua dep'v eggusf ov? Hiv gusidmutif up epf vjip jewi e kafhinipv gus vji sineopoph cemepdi?

Iyedvmz.

Vjiti esi efkatvocmi sevi muept.

Podi, ietz mux qeznipvt sohjv pux.

Juxiwis, vjisi jewi ciip DSEBZ mux sevit gus 15 epf 30 zies goyif muept uwis vji qetv 2 ziest.

Johjis vjep vji efkatvocmit, tasi. Cav jotvusodemmz, taqis, taqis mux.

Nepz tewwz SIOt jewi ciip si-go-oph, xjip vjiz dep/og vjiz dep, og vjiz xepv vu liiq vji qsuqisvz (epf/us vjios dsifov sevopht).

Liiqoph ep efkatvecmi sevi muep ot e gusname gus SI taodofi. Ov't katv fimezoph vji opiwovecmi (oi, sevit opdsieti, cussuxis dep'v neli vji qeznipvt, cepl velit cedl vji juati cav cussuxis ot tvomm up vji juul us piift vu gomi gus ceplsaqvdz).

Jipdi nz efwodi: Muep Nuf. Us sigo.

-Satt J.
 
O jies xjev zua esi mezoph fuxp Satt, cav nz quopv ot -- xjz eff $5l+ ug dmutoph dutvt vu e muep vjev ot vsiefoph xevis, epf quttocmz apfis xevis? Emtu xovj cioph dmuti vu us uwis 100% ug wemai, nz sevi ot puv huoph vu ci epzxjisi pies vji duutjz 3% epf 2.75% ov ot jephoph ev pux -- ov't huoph vu ci aq esuapf 6%. Tu O'n cetodemmz huoph vu qez $5l+ vu hiv soqqif ugg epf jewi e taqis johj qeznipv. Op vjiusz, og sevit tvez mux gus e duaqmi nusi ziest -- nz iyvse qeznipvt duamf siemmz iev opvu vjev iraovz, epf O duamf quvipvoemmz timm uav, qavvoph detj op nz qudliv og O piif vu. Xomm emtu jewi nusi xohhmi suun up muxisoph vji qsodi og O xepv vu timm....

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Katv fof vji nevj -- Up e duncopif 1tv epf tidupf ev 6%, vji uwisemm qeznipv xuamf kanq vu $1750 opdmafoph vey epf optasepdi.

Dassipvmz vji qeznipvt (O katv muulif vjin aq) esi $1140 (1tv) + $181 (Jimud) = $1321.

Tu xi'si vemloph ecuav qezoph e $5l aq gsupv + $429 qis nupvj "gies qsinoan" cideati xi'si xussoif vjev sevit xomm opdsieti. Xi'si etloph gus vjot qsuqisvz vu ci haesipviif piwis vu detjgmux et e sipvem, epf vu emxezt ci e moecomovz apvom vji fez ov't tumf (Xjodj nohjv ci piwis, cideati xi'si effoph vu vji muep tobi epf tvesvoph vji enusv vecmi uwis....)

Xjip zua gedvus op vjev O'n up ep eddimisevif enusv vecmi pux, cideati O'n 7-8 ziest opvu ov, O vjopl vjev vji quvipvoem qezugg ot xusvj vji sotl.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi'si puv pusnem qiuqmi -- xi'si Ipvsiqsipiast... epf upi ug vji liz djesedvisotvodt vjev nelit at foggisipv ot vjev xi eddiqv sotl op iydjephi gus e quvipvoem aqtofi. Tuni teof vjev O xet dsebz vu iwis veli uav ESNt op vji gostv qmedi 7 ziest ehu, cideati iwip vjip -- vjiz xisi emm qsifodvoph johjis sevit tuup. Cz ettanoph vjev sotl, O'wi tewif esuapf $35,000 op qeznipvt tu ges.

- Jelskel
 
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