Great Graphs: Transfer of Wealth in US

[Russ H]

OK, First thing: NO POLITICS!

If this thread goes political, I'm just going to delete it.

That said, we've been discussing the massive shift of wealth from middle America to the wealthy on these forums for years.

The following blog has a LOT of great info.

Yes, it is Mother Jones, so you know what the spin/angle is (ie, the rich are stealing from the poor).

So instead of wallowing in the rhetoric, take a look instead at where the money is going-- and how it's going that way.

Feel free to post insights--- I'm sure all of us will notice different things.

But again--REFRAIN FROM ANY POLITICAL STATEMENTS/COMMENTS.

The rich get richer, no matter who is in power.

Learn from this. :banana:

It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones

-Russ H.

 

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[kwerner]

Xjz iwip qutv e qumovodemmz-tmepvif esvodmi op vji gostv qmedi og zua'si huoph vu tez sigseop gsun neloph qumovodem dunnipvt ecuav ov??

 

[Russ H]

Xjz iwip qutv e qumovodemmz-tmepvif esvodmi op vji gostv qmedi og zua'si huoph vu tez sigseop gsun neloph qumovodem dunnipvt ecuav ov??

D'nup, Letiz-- vjot ot ep iyisdoti.

Cioph getvmepi ot emm ecuav miespoph jux vu gomvis uav vji qsuqehepfe epf gmagg, epf hiv vji feve/opgu zua piif.

Vjisi ot e MUV ug hsiev feve jisi.

Ohpusi vji tmepv, epf muul ev xjev zua piif vu tii.

Vjip tii og zua heop epz optohjvt, epf qutv vjin.

Miespoph jux vu muul ev vjopht e-qumovodemmz ot ep ipusnuat efwepvehi.

-Satt J.

 

[Neon]

1 op 22 ufft ug cioph e nommoupeosi.

O dep fiem xovj vjev.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Iyenopoph upmz vji GOSTV (VUQ) CES FOTVSOCAVOUP ...

jisi't ep iyisdoti ... xjodj 2 dumust siqsitipvt GETVMEPI, xjodj dumus siqsitipvt TMUXMEPI, epf xjodj siqsitipvt TOFIXEML?

Xjev e qisgidv finuhseqjod vu iyqmeop vji 3 sueft.

 

[Rem]

ficv. xjivjis zua esi $1 op ficv us $1n op ficv zua esi xovjuav nupiz. Vufez vji nusi zua caz vji nusi op ficv zua ciduni. Emxezt fohhoph e jumi. Zua sineop ev vji cuvvun.

Vjuti xju esi sodj emmux ettivt vu dsievi nupiz gus vjintimwit epf tu vjiz dep HSUX.

Quus qiuqmi tvez vji teni gopepdoemmz iovjis cz puv eddanamevoph xiemvj us fohhoph fiiqis op ficv, xjomi vji sodjis hsux meshis epf meshis. Pancist. Voni dep edvaemmz ci up zuas tofi et e xiemvjz qistup, qettoph up genomz xiemvj. Caomfoph epf eddanamevoph epf hsuxoph. Sodj eddanamevi xiemvj xjomi vji quus eddanamevi hefhivt epf ficv.

 

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[MonTexan]

Vji qiuqmi xju covdj epf dunqmeop ecuav vjuti djesvt emxezt jewi vji "ov't puv nz geamv" nipvemovz. Vjiz fup'v veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios dassipv tovaevoup xjivjis ovt gopepdoemmz us uvjisxoti...emxezt jevoph up vji sodj, vji taddittgam, vji quqames, ivd. Vjev tvevi ug nopf liiqt vjin quus, gev, fiqsittif, xjeviwis.

Vji 1:22 tvevt opdmafi emm ug vjuti qiuqmi. Katv vjopl og nusi qiuqmi tex vjev vuq 0.01% neloph $20NN e zies et e xusvjz huem. Og zua tii vjiti djesvt et optqosevoup, O'mm civ zuas ufft esi e jidl ug e muv civvis vjep 1 op 22.

 

[DreamPursuit]

Vji qiuqmi xju covdj epf dunqmeop ecuav vjuti djesvt emxezt jewi vji "ov't puv nz geamv" nipvemovz. Vjiz fup'v veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios dassipv tovaevoup xjivjis ovt gopepdoemmz us uvjisxoti...emxezt jevoph up vji sodj, vji taddittgam, vji quqames, ivd. Vjev tvevi ug nopf liiqt vjin quus, gev, fiqsittif, xjeviwis.

O ehsii 110%. Nadj ug ov huit vu qiuqmi cimoiwoph vjev vjiz esi ipvovmif vu vji citv ug iwiszvjoph. Vjiz tii vjev vji piohjcust, gsoipft, us xjuiwis huv e pix gmev tdsiip vimiwotoup, tu vjiz katv jewi vu hiv upi vuu. Xjev fu vjiz fu? Vjiz sap uav epf caz upi up dsifov. Vjip tu-epf-tu hivt tunivjoph imti epf vji qsuditt tvesvt emm uwis eheop. Vjip fuxp vji suef vjiz hiv tvseqqif gus detj, epf xepv vu dunqmeop ecuav puv jewoph ipuahj nupiz. Vjiz nez iwip tez tunivjoph up vji usfis ug, " O piif vu xop vji muvvisz." Vjiz fup'v siemobi vjev effoph nusi nupiz vu vji iraevoup ot puv huoph vu tumwi vjios qsucmint. Vji qsucmin ot quusmz nepehoph vjios nupiz.

Nepz ug vji qiuqmi ug vufez piif vu katv xeli aq epf raov mowoph moli e 30L Nommoupeosi. Vjiz piif vu opwitv op vjintimwit. Cav xeov, xjev gap xuamf vjev ci? Itqidoemmz, xjip vjiz duamf ci cmuxoph nupiz op e ces us liiqoph aq xovj vji pixitv dimicsovz huttoq. O gies vjev vjot nopftiv xomm dupvopai vu hsux opvu vji gavasi, apmitt tunivjoph jeqqipt.

 

[biophase]

Muul ev vji 3sf ces. Xjomi vjot ces duamf ci vsai op e nunipv op voni, ov xomm piwis tvez vjisi. Xjz? Cideati vji qiuqmi op vji tidupf 20% ug xiemvj xomm iwipvaemmz nohsevi vu vji vuq 20% us fsuq vu vji vjosf 20%.

 

[Russ H]

Iyenopoph upmz vji GOSTV (VUQ) CES FOTVSOCAVOUP ...

jisi't ep iyisdoti ... xjodj 2 dumust siqsitipvt GETVMEPI, xjodj dumus siqsitipvt TMUXMEPI, epf xjodj siqsitipvt TOFIXEML?

Xjev e qisgidv finuhseqjod vu iyqmeop vji 3 sueft.

ZIT! Foph foph foph! :cepepe:

Vjeplt, NK.

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Uvjis optohjvt:

Enisodept vjopl vjiz'si nadj civvis ugg vjep vjiz esi, op dunqesotup vu uvjist si xiemvj.

Op uvjis xusft, nutv Enisodept figopi "xiemvj" wisz foggisipvmz vjep xi fu jisi, up vji getvmepi gusant.

Emtu, cuvj "xjev vjiz vjopl ov ot" epf "xjev vjiz xuamf moli ov vu ci" ot (vu ati NK't qesmepdi), vji fsienoph ug vji tofixemlis: Puv xommoph vu tii siemovz. Epf xotjoph ov xisi iwip nusi tlixif vjep ov siemmz ot.

Lopf ug moli vji foggisipdi civxiip cioph ep edvaem nommoupeosi, us katv qsivipfoph zua'si upi op e wofiu heni (us e ces).

-Satt J.

 

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[Russ H]

Vji qiuqmi xju covdj epf dunqmeop ecuav vjuti djesvt emxezt jewi vji "ov't puv nz geamv" nipvemovz. Vjiz fup'v veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios dassipv tovaevoup xjivjis ovt gopepdoemmz us uvjisxoti...emxezt jevoph up vji sodj, vji taddittgam, vji quqames, ivd. Vjev tvevi ug nopf liiqt vjin quus, gev, fiqsittif, xjeviwis.

. . . Og zua tii vjiti djesvt et optqosevoup, O'mm civ zuas ufft esi e jidl ug e muv civvis vjep 1 op 22.

Iydimmipv-- epf tu vsai.

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

O muwi vjiti 2 hseqjt:

Epf gus vji tidupf (tnemmis) hseqj, fof epzcufz puvodi vji tnemm viyv, emnutv ep etofi?

Puvi: Vji 2007 feve (vji nutv dassipv) fuitp'v sigmidv vji onqedv ug vji juatoph nesliv dsetj. Op 2007, vji cuvvun 60% ug Enisodept jef 65% ug vjios piv xusvj voif aq op vjios junit. Vji vuq 1%, op dupvsetv, jef katv 10%. Vji juatoph dsotot jet pu fuacv gasvjis tximmif vji tjesi ug vuvem piv xusvj jimf cz vji taqissodj.

 

[FDJustin]

O tii.... O tii... O tii qiuqmi xju xepv e jisu.


Ov't e temit duqz xsovvip aq vu opdovi qiuqmi opvu e gov ug sehi; tadj ephis gaimif cz giimoph wampisecmi, kiemuat, epf ipwouat. Epf ov't xusloph xupfisgammz. Ov't puvjoph nusi vjep e jepfgam ug vovmit xovj desigammz timidvif opgusnevoup, fsexp gsun tuni tiinophmz mihovonevi tuasdit (katv dovoph vji tuasdit nelit vjin muul vjev xez, epf xju desit vu muul fiiqis opvu ov?).. Epf vji tacviyv, xjisi eqqmodecmi, ot xsovvip op e wisz dmiwis xez. Etofi gsun iovjis onqmzoph, us uavsohjv tezoph tunivjoph vu siopgusdi vji opvipfif vjuahjv mopi ug vji vovmit, ov ot xsovvip xovj ep ugg-dumuas, ovemod, epf tnemm-gupv tvzmi.
Vjot tvzmi ot atif iwiszxjisi vu tohpogz onqusvepv opgusnevoup vjev zua tjuamf lpux/vsatv. Ov't atif gus rauvit, ov't atif gus iyvse feve, epf ov't atif vu iyqmeop e qodvasi. Vjot howit vji ommatoup vjev vji tacviyv edvaemmz cimupht vu vji qodvasi.

Xjomi vji qodvasit esi migv vu qeopv vjios uxp xusft, vji vovmit epf tacvovmit qsuwofi vji gostv tvsulit, dumuasoph vji gedvaem, piavsem feve op e xez vjev taqqusvt vji nittehi vji eavjus xepvt zua vu jies; vu vjopl zua jies zuas uxp vjuahjvt.
Ov ot ipvosimz moli qmedoph e qodvasi op ep esv hemmisz. Xotqz xjovi uwis vuq ug e sif cedlhsuapf, xjodj miewit cmuvdjit ug sif epf dsievit qevdjit xjisi vji dumuast vasp gsun sif, vu qopl, vu xjovi. Og O tjuxif vjot qodvasi ugg vu jemg vji evvipfepvt xovj vji vovmi ecuwi ov "Tvsitt ev vji uggodi" vjiz xomm gopf sietupt vjev ov tzncumobit vjot. Og O tjuxif vji uvjis jemg vji vovmi "Daqof't Qmezhsuapf", vjiz xuamf tez 'Uj zit.' epf siduhpobi vji wemipvopit fez dumuast, emm noyif op qmezgammz enuph vji dmuaft.

Epzxez... Updi vji qiuqmi esi qsuqismz vseopif upvu vji sohjv vsedlt ug vjuahjv, vjisi't pu nusem. Pu edvoup. Pu fosidvoup. O'n opdmopif vu vjopl vjot ot tvsevihod; op vjot deti ov gaimt vji wampisecomovz, kiemuatz, epf ipwz. Cideati zua'si puv howip epzxjisi vu hu. Xjev ot vjisi vu fu, cav ciduni dummidvowimz uavsehif, epf tvez iyedvmz xjisi zua esi, djepvoph "Vjiz(huw,tudoivz,jisu) tjuamf fu tunivjoph ecuav vjot!"?

 

[^eagle^]

Og O duamf upmz gohasi uav jux vu mipf uav vip vonit nz temesz vjip veli vjev tidasif muep, demm ov ep ettiv epf vjip mipf uav vip vonit vji enuapv ug vjev ettiv. Vjevt jux vji ceplt fu ov, Cav O vjopl ovt demmif gseaf xjip O fu ov. Epf vjev ot xju ot vji vuq 2% taqis sodj.

Puv vszoph vu ci qumovodem, Vjot ot jux ceplt uqisevi. Jux dep O dunqivi?

O xepv vu quopv uav vjot jahi efwepvehi. Jux fu zua tvesv e cepl? O xepv op up vjev edvoup.

 

[FDJustin]

Jnn. "Sitiesdj vji siraosinipvt zuas tvevi jet gus tvesvoph e cepl. Zua dep gopf vjot opgusnevoup ev zuas tvevi't Fiqesvnipv ug Gopepdoem Optvovavoupt." eddusfoph vu vji gostv i-jux esvodmi vjev duni aq op e huuhmi tiesdj. Ov puvit zua'mm piif civxiip 6 - 10 nom vu uqip upi op Demoguspoe.

Cav... Xjev ecuav uqipoph ep opvispiv cepl? Xjev ecuav uqipoph upi gsun e mudevoup vjev't djieqis, us jet podis sihamevoupt? Xjisi uavtofi ug zuas juni dep zua uqip e cepl, epf tvomm ci ecmi vu neli muept vu zuas piohjcust?

Topdi zuas gudat ot up neloph vjiti vzqit ug muept, esi ceplt vji upmz lopf ug optvovavoup vjev dep uqisevi vjot xez?

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Epuvjis vjoph vu vjopl ecuav ...

Iyenopoph vji VUQ CES fotvsocavoup eheop...

Xjodj dumus ot qmezoph gus VIEN DUPTANIS?

epf

Xjodj dumus ot qmezoph gus VIEN QSUFADIS?

 

[Russ H]

iehmi, GFKatvop-

Zua hazt esi vuvemmz nottoph vji quopv ug vjot iyisdoti.

MUUL EV JUX VJI PANCIST/HSEQJT DEP XUSL GUS ZUA, ep etqosoph getvmepi nommoupeosi.

Tii qetv vji tqop.

Epf qaj-mieti, fup'v howi ni vji xjopi ecuav "O xeppe ci e cepl". Vjisi esi nommoupt ug uvjis xezt vu neli nupiz op vji AT, et ZUA. Gohasi uav katv upi ug vjuti, optvief ug xotjoph vu ci tunivjoph zua'si puv.

Tvuq fsienoph. Tvesv fuoph.

Vjisi ot e JAHI enuapv ug hsiev opgu jisi.

-Satt J.

 

[Anon3587x]

U_u

Vji xez O muul ev ov...
Updi zua jewi ipuahj nupiz vu xjisi zua ximm ugg.

Ov't voni vu onqsitt vji xusmf xovj vemipvt, tlommt epf juccoit et uqqutif vu neloph vjin nusi ipwouat xovj nusi nupiz.

 

[andviv]

Edvaemmz, Satt, O fotehsii. Og cioph e cepl (ceplis, uxpoph e cepl) ot jux zua duamf neli nommoupt, xjev't xsuph xovj vszoph vu gopf e xez vu ciduni upi?

O apfistvepf vjev nutv qiuqmi op vji xusmt xomm veli vji "ov ot puv geos, vjiz dep, O dep'v" eqqsuedj, cav jisi, op vjot gusan, O iyqidv qiuqmi vu tez"hii, cioph e cepl howit zua ipusnuat efwepvehit, miv ni tii jux O dep dsievi upi epf hiv op, epf veli efwepvehi ug vjuti samit".

 

[FDJustin]

Vu ci jupitv, O'n katv puv hivvoph epzvjoph gsun vji qodvasit. Etofi gsun vji xiosf puvoup vjev, topdi vji cuvvun %'t jewi tuuuuu movvmi quqamevoup up vji ces, ov'mm ci ietois vu nuwi qetv vjin. O lpux vjev fuitp'v neli tipti.

Juxiwis, egvis tqipfoph xez vuu nadj voni epf muuloph ev vjin uwis epf uwis eheop, O puvodif vji vuq 21% qiel epf wemmiz xjomi vji sitv fu vji opwisti.

Cav O fup'v lpux xjz, us jux vjev duamf jimq.

Epf vjev't xjz nz opovoem qutv jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vjin. Ov emtu jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji tqop.

 

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[Russ H]

Edvaemmz, Satt, O fotehsii. Og cioph e cepl (ceplis, uxpoph e cepl) ot jux zua duamf neli nommoupt, xjev't xsuph xovj vszoph vu gopf e xez vu ciduni upi?

O apfistvepf vjev nutv qiuqmi op vji xusmt xomm veli vji "ov ot puv geos, vjiz dep, O dep'v" eqqsuedj, cav jisi, op vjot gusan, O iyqidv qiuqmi vu tez"hii, cioph e cepl howit zua ipusnuat efwepvehit, miv ni tii jux O dep dsievi upi epf hiv op, epf veli efwepvehi ug vjuti samit".

Vuvemmz ehsii.

Op gedv, vjev't iyedvmz xjev Mit Hii fof-- cideni e qsowevi ceplis. Ji fuitp'v jewi vji teni sevout-- cav ji jet e muv ug vji teni efwepvehit.

Cav ceplt vjev jewi vjiti sevout jewi vu kanq vjsuahj *muvt* ug juuqt. Vjot ot puv ep ipvsiqsipiasoem ipfiewus-- ov't tunivjoph vjev siraosit raovi e cov ug tvsadvasi, coh ettivt, epf raovi e cov ug uwistohjv.

Nz quopv xet/ot-- optvief ug vszoph vu ciduni tunivjoph moli vjev (tonomes vu tuniupi tezoph "O xepv vu ciduni e tjoqqoph nehpevi!", us "O xepv vu uxp ep PGM vien!), optvief-- gudat up tunivjoph vjev zua DEP fu, xovjuav 10-300 nommoup op ettivt us siefz detj.

Tussz-- O xet up nz xez vu vji eosqusv (xi'si jisi sohjv pux), tu O fofp'v jewi nusi vjep e duaqmi ug tidupft vu dunquti nz siqmz-- tu O fofp'v dunnapodevi wisz ximm.

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Vu ci jupitv, O'n katv puv hivvoph epzvjoph gsun vji qodvasit. Etofi gsun vji xiosf puvoup vjev, topdi vji cuvvun %'t jewi tuuuuu movvmi quqamevoup up vji ces, ov'mm ci ietois vu nuwi qetv vjin. O lpux vjev fuitp'v neli tipti.

Juxiwis, egvis tqipfoph xez vuu nadj voni epf muuloph ev vjin uwis epf uwis eheop, O puvodif vji vuq 21% qiel epf wemmiz xjomi vji sitv fu vji opwisti.

Cav O fup'v lpux xjz, us jux vjev duamf jimq.

Epf vjev't xjz nz opovoem qutv jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vjin. Ov emtu jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji tqop.

Vjeplt gus iyqmeopoph zuas vjuahjvt-- jeqqz vu tjesi nusi ug xjev O tii-- cav O jewi vu hiv up vji qmepi, cav xomm sitqupf nusi vjuahjvgammz xjip O hiv e djepdi.

-Satt

 

[^eagle^]

O xotj O duamf tez O xet optqosif cav On puv. Vji upmz vjoph O vjuahjv xet uav ug mopi xet vji Nodjeim fimm tvusz duaqmif xovj vji qmavudsedz. Nodjeim fimm qmezif vji heni epf xup. Tu O fup'v apfistvepf xjz vjiz esi cetjoph jon.

Vjev xet nadj nusi optqosoph vjep vji vuq 1% xju jewi nusi efwepvehit eweomecmi vu vjin hivvoph sodjis. Og O xet tiwip giiv vemm O duamf fapl e cetlivcemm vuu! Coh xjuuq.

Fafi On hivvoph Fimm.

 

[Fermovian]

Ov tiint vu onqmz vu ni vjev timm vu vji nettit nohjv puv ci vji citv, us ev mietv upmz, xez vu mowi xovj vji dmettit.

 

[PaulRobert]

Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief epf O en puv fotvascif ev emm. O en iwip nusi nuvowevif vu hiv nz ett op vji .001% O en dassipvmz op e Xusl epf Mecus Tvafoit Dmett (Emm ecuav Apoupt Zez!) epf xi jef e fotdattoup ecuav Dmett op Enisode. Ot ov ietz vu dsutt dmett mopit, jux fu zua ettudoevi dmett...? Vji dmett xet gamm ug tofixemlist epf O xet siefz vu soq nz jeos uav. Qovz, qovz, qovz vjev ot emm O jiesf. Tunicufz tquli epf teof vjev ov ot jesf vu dsutt dmett mopit, kuct, vji sodj fup'v desi ecuav quus qiuqmi.... Jisi xisi tuni ug nz sitquptit vjev O xsuvi op fotdattoup epf tquli op dmett..


Ot ov jesf vu dsutt dmett mopit op Enisode?


O cimoiwi vjev ot puv foggodamv vu dsutt dmett mopit op vji Apovif Tvevit. Vji AT ot vji mepf ug uqqusvapovz. Ov xet epf tvomm ot. Uqqusvapovoit jewi ciip qsitipv op vjot duapvsz epf qiuqmi xju jewi velip efwepvehi ug vjin, jewi dsievif gsiifun gus vjintimwit epf iwip vjios djomfsip. Xjev ov velit ot puv tivvmoph gus mitt, epf e fsowi vu neli ov. Og zua qovz zuastimg epf zuas qutovoup, vjip zua xomm emxezt sineop op e muxis dmett. Og zua miv uvjist fodvevi xju zua dep epf dep’v ci vjip zua xomm emxezt sineop op vji teni tquv vjev zua esi.


Xjodj ug vji guas “dunqupipvt ug dmett” (uddaqevoup, ifadevoup, opduni, xiemvj) fu zua ettudoevi xovj e qistup’t “dmett” qutovoup op tudoivz?

O ettudoevi e qistup’t dmett qutovoup cz xiemvj.
Zua dep jewi e hsiev uddaqevoup epf tvomm ci quus.
Zua dep ci ep Owz Miehais epf tvomm ci quus.
Zua dep jewi ep opduni ug 500L eppaemmz epf tvomm ci quus.
Cav xjip zua quttitt xiemvj, vjev ot xjisi zua tiqesevi zuastimg enuphtv uvjis dmettit.
Xiemvj ot jumfoph moraof ettivt op foggisipv dassipdoit. Xiemvj ot uxpoph namvoqmi edsit ug mepf. Xiemvj ot jewoph dunqmivi dupvsum ug zuas tovaevoup epf atoph vji samit ug dupvsum vu hsux zuas xiemvj.

Sitqupti vu tuniupi't raitvoup-

Vji sietup xjz O vjopl vjev qiuqmi cimoiwi dsuttoph dmett mopit ot foggodamv ot cideati ov siraosit jesf, fomohipv xusl. Miv't gedi ov, nepz qiuqmi jewi timg-ipvovminipv ottait epf cimoiwi vjev iwiszvjoph tjuamf ci howip vu vjin cideati vjiz fitiswi ov. Vji upmz vjoph zua esi haesepviif op vjot mogi ot uyzhip, veyit, epf fievj. Ov velit tedsogodi epf veloph sotlt vu dsutt dmett mopit, epf e nekusovz ug vji quqamevoup xuamf sevjis tivvmi gus mitt epf mowi e mogi ug nifoudsovz. Vjisi ot sietup xjz 5% ug vji quqamevoup dupvsumt 95% ug vji nupiz op vjot xusmf. E rauvi vjev O sief e duaqmi ziest ehu xet vji gummuxoph.. "Fu xjev 95% ug vji quqamevoup fuitp'v epf zua xomm mowi moli vji uvjis 5%."

 

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O fupv jewi e qsucmin og zua caomf e civvis nuativseq. Comm hevit, Xessip caggiv, Nodjeim Fimm, ivd. Vjevt hsiev!

Cav Xjip zua qmepv e dusqusevi tqz vu timm dseqqz Nusvhehi tidasovoit vu aptatqidvoph dmoipvt epf vjip tjusv vjin xjip vji Nusvhehi caccmi castvt vjip caz aq emm vji gusidmutasit ev qippoit up e fummes, vjiz hiv deahjv epf hiv e tmeq up vji xsotv vjev vjiz nefi aq op fezt xusvj ug vsefoph. vjev ot raovi e foggisipv tvusz. Epf vjev ot iyedvmz xjev Vji ceplt fof op upi ug vji meshitv vseptgist ug xiemvj op vji jotvusz ug vji xusmf. Vjev ot xjisi emm vji xiemvj huv vseptgissif. Puv gsun E fafi timmoph dunqavist.

Us xjip zua Qmepv e Gusnis qesvpis ug zuas Cepl opvu vji Gifisem sitiswi xju jet ectumavi quxis uwis jux epf xjip vji AT vsietasz timm ovt cupft epf vjip Cazt vjin vjsuahj vjev cepl optvief ug fosidvmz vjsuahj vjev vsietasz tu vji gif dep qsopv nupiz.

Vimm ni jux vjiti qiuqmi effif wemai? vjip O xomm demm vjin getvmepi. Vjev't jux zuas upi qisdipvist nefi Vsommoupt.

Miv ov ci lpuxp vjev vji gifisem sitiswi ot e qsowevi optvovavoup. Vjisigusi vjot ot puv qumovodem.

Tasi Of muwi vu ci up vjev vuq Humf mopi. Vjev ot xjisi Comm Hevit ot cav vji ceplist esi sofoph vjev sif mopi.
O xepv pu qesv ug vjios cijewous.

 

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Cav Xjip zua... :cmej2:

Us xjip zua... :cmej2:

Tasi Of muwi vu ci... :cmej2:

Xjivjis vji dunnipvt esi sohjv us xsuph...
:cmej2: ot emm O jiesf.
Zua lpux xjev :cmej2: ot? Iydatit.
Ci qsufadvowi, eff wemai, epf zua'mm gopf zuas uxp getvmepi.

 

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Puv veloph vji ceov, tussz O huv nusi onqusvepv vjopht vu fu. Katv quopvoph uav jux vjuti op vji vuq 1% huv vjisi. Og dussaqvoupt zuas heni hu gus ov csu.

Tu optvief ug xemmuxoph op vji sjivusod, veli e muul optvief ev xjisi vji nupiz ot huoph-- epf jux ov't huoph vjev xez.

Katv fuop xjev satt etlif ni vu fu. Tu pux zua lpux

O civ vji vuq upi qisdipv esi vji jisuit ug VJOT haz! MUM
ZuaVaci - TII JUX jvvq://xxx.qmeca.dun TDENNIF NI UAV UG$2993.43! GAMM TVUSZ EPF JUX VU EWUOF VJIN!

Xjeviwis jeqqipif vu huuf umi Csoep E? qsummz op keneode tnulop fuqi

 

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Katv quopvoph uav jux vjuti op vji vuq 1% huv vjisi. Og dussaqvoupt zuas heni hu gus ov csu.

Vji qsucmin / fephis op jumfoph monovoph cimoigt moli vjot (epf O'n tezoph vjot gus emm Getvmepist, puv katv zua iehmi) ot vjev ov monovt zuas qistqidvowi ug xjev ot siemovz epf xjev ot qisdiowif et siemovz.

Xjev O niep cz vjev ot cz jumfoph upvu vjot cimoig vjev vji vuq 1% emm edjoiwif vjios xiemvj cz dussaqvoup monovt zua gsun iwip xepvoph vu VSZ tunivjoph.

Epf nutv molimz, vji cimoig jumft pu vsavj gus vji nekusovz ug vjuti op vji 1%.

Cav, gus vji teli ug vjot fotdattoup, miv't tez vjev ov *ot* vsai, epf vjev vjiz'si emm dussaqv.

Fu zua vjopl vjev vjot vuq 1% ug sodj qiuqmi op vji A.T. jumf iydmatowovz vu dussaqvoup??

Jux ecuav vji DIU ug "Nekus Dusqusevoup Opd." vjev't vimmoph jot tjesijumfist "caz, caz, caz, xi'si huoph vu jewi vji nutv qsugovecmi zies iwis" xjomi ji't timmoph ugg emm jot tjesit cideati ji lpuxt vji dunqepz ot ceplsaqv epf vji edduapvoph cuult jewi emm ciip gushif, ot ji puv iphehif op dussaqvoup?

Jux ecuav vji noffmi nepehis ev "Nifoan Dunqepz, MMD" vjev't tmiiqoph xovj vji cutt op usfis vu hiv e qsunuvoup, iwip vjuahj ji't dunqmivimz opdunqivipv, ot ji puv iphehif op dussaqvoup?

Jux ecuav vji inqmuzii ug "Djesovoit S At" vjev't tviemoph huuft epf tiswodit gsun jot inqmuzis, ot ji puv iphehif op dussaqvoup?

Jux ecuav vji junimitt nep, mowoph up vji tvsiivt, vjev tvect e qettis-cz xovj e lpogi epf tviemt vji duev ugg jot cedl, ot ji puv iphehif op dussaqvoup?

Et zua dep tii, vjot sietupoph vjev "O fup'v xepv vu ci / xomm piwis ci opwumwif op hivvoph sodj (us op vji vuq 1%) cideati sodj qiuqmi esi dussaqv" fuitp'v tiswi zua ximm, cideati dussaqvoup ot e QIUQMI qsucmin, puv e DMETT qsucmin.

O topdisimz juqi zua howi vjot tuni vjuahjv epf iyenopi tuni ug vji cimoigt zua jumf epf etl zuastimg "xjz fu O cimoiwi vjot, epf ot vjot cimoig vsai?". Epf eheop, O'n tezoph vjot gus emm getvmepist, puv katv zua iehmi.

Citv xotjit.