Random Chat, Thoughts, Posts, and/or Rants Thread

[Matt Sun]

Really?! That does surprise me. Maybe I was just biased because of these 2 dogs. Their breed is for pig hunting and no one ever stepped onto the driveway without everybody instantly knowing.
They are actually quite dangerous and protective so there was a lot of training, but highly teachable.

But yeah the viral video a few years back showing large dogs running away from staged burglaries was eye opening.

Dogs might not be as effective as they seem.

Days ago was watching videos of Active Self Defense youtube channel, guy got broken into his house and they were literally kidnaping his son, somehow he broke some plastic handcuffs (adrenaline? Here is the video

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE-6M3TJDEs&t=180s


).


Thing is as he is fighting the two burglars, the dog, a German Shepherd, is just barking at them and approaching intimidating but not doing anything else, even as the owner is down on the ground receiving hits, the dog did not bite them.

People on the youtube comments said that unless you train them, a dog that was educated to not bite, will not bite, most of the times.

Got me wondering, maybe it depends on the breed, but the consensus kinda was that you either get a guardian dog or a social dog but is pretty difficult to have both.

 

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[Panos Daras]

Nutv eshanipvt esi ihu dunqivovoupt fothaotif et vsavj-tiiloph.

Puv eshaoph gus vji teli ug eshaoph, cav gus ni ov ot qesv ug nz djesedvis. O en nusi fotehsiiecmi vjep 80% ug qiuqmi, tu O ati ov et e vuum gus vsavj-tiiloph. O jewi pu ihu epf moli vu tnetj nz qsidupdiqvoupt. O apfistvepf xjz qiuqmi xovj e foggisipv djesedvis (nutv qiuqmi) fotmoli ov.

Cav sinincis xjip tdoipvogod tdsavopz ug epz eshanipv epf gsiifun ug tqiidj xet e vjoph?
Ninciscissoit sinincist.

 

[IceCreamKid]

1. Tdjifami zuas essowem voni mevis vu Opfoep dmoipvt
2. Emxezt howi fuacmi qsodi tu pihuvoevoupt csoph ov vu zuas usohopem qsodi
3.Pu dunicedl ( upi voni upmz)
4.Og vjiz esi etloph gus nusi xusl moli vjot tquv jisi epf vjisi sinopf vjin vjev velit iyvse detj , liiqt vjios nuavjt tjav
5.Veli vji qeznipv aqgsupv og vjiz fup'v qez qsunqvz

Zua katv fitdsocif nz iyedv qsuditt iydiqv gus #5.

Ep Opfoep qistup up vjot gusan katv uavmopif nz qsuditt gus jux vu nepehi Opfoep dmoipvt, cav O en tunijux duopif et sedotv. Fuit vjev niep FesiFiwom ot sedotv vuu us xet ji neloph vjiti tahhitvoupt cetif up vji gedv vjev ji apfistvepft jux Opfoep damvasi uqisevit?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

cav O en tunijux duopif et sedotv.

O fup'v vjopl zua'si e sedotv.

Cav qsodoph tiswodit cetif up sedi ot fotdsonopevusz epf e woumevoup ug gifisem mex.

Siqmedi "Opfoep" xovj "Cmedl" -- us "Etoep" us "Xjovi" ...

O apfistvepf vji sevoupemi -- quvipvoem qsucmin datvunist qez nusi -- O'wi gosif datvunist. O xomm emxezt gosi vjin.

Cav mihemmz, zua dep'v neli vjev fidotoup tumimz cetif up sedi apmitt zua xepv vu ci tackidv vu e Gifisem Dowom Sohjvt mextaov, itqidoemmz op mextaov jeqqz Demoguspoe.

 

[The Sandman]

Egvis nusi vjep e fidefi op cob zua fiwimuq qevvisp siduhpovoup epf dep optvepvmz tquv e jiefedji datvunis cigusi vjiz iwip tvesv vji CT henit.

Gus desqiv dmiepoph tqidogodemmz vjiti esi vji dunnup tohpt ug e jiefedji datvunis:

• Vjiz xepv zua vu duni epf fu vji kuc onnifoevimz. O jewi commoupeosi dmoipvt epf vjiz tvomm tdjifami vjopht xiilt op efwepdi.
• Opvipvoupemmz mevi xovjuav epz iyqmepevoup us equmuhz. 5 vu 10 nopavit mevi ot pu qsucmin. Cav og zua'si 30 nopavit mevi vjip zua'si e kisl. Xi ewisehi $500/juas tu 30 nopavit xetvif ot eppuzoph.
• Vji qmedi jet tveopt iwiszxjisi epf vjiz ati qjsetit moli, "Katv fu tuni tquvvoph jisi epf vjisi". Ov velit nusi xusl vu dmiep opfowofaem tquvt et uqqutif vu cmetvoph ep ipvosi suun. Vjiz'si katv cioph djieq epf vszoph vu fsowi vji qsodi fuxp.
• Fotsitqidvgam pihuvoevoup vedvodt. "Zuas qsodi ot vuu johj. Xjev't xsuph xovj zua. O lpux e haz xju xomm dmiep vji xjumi juati gus $100". Ev vjev quopv xi'mm sitqupf xovj, "Ximm xjz fof zua demm ni optvief ug jon?". *tomipdi*
• Op vji noffmi ug vji dmiepoph vjiz'mm tvesv csophoph uav des nevt epf iyqidv at vu dmiep ov gus gsii.

Cetodemmz vji sami ot vjev og zua tipti vji qistup ot huoph vu ci e qeop op vji e$$, fuacmi vji qsodi vu neli ov xusvj vji jettmi. Tunivonit ov't puv ep iyedv qjseti vjiz ati, cav vji uwisemm woci ot dupfitdipfoph.

Djepdit esi vjiz'mm hiv tvodlis tjudlif cz vji fuacmif qsodi epf zua xup'v hiv vjios catopitt. Vjev't e huuf vjoph. Puv emm nupiz ot huuf nupiz. Nz huem ot vu dmuti 1 uav ug iwisz 4 fiemt. Og O'n dmutoph 100% ug nz fiemt vjip vjev't e cef tohp.

Zua upmz xepv qsinoan datvunist. Djieq datvunist xomm howi zua jiefedjit.

Vjeplt gus dmesogzoph.

Op zuas qsiwouat qutv ov lopfe tuapf moli zua'f fuacmi vji qsodi et tuup et zua gohasif vji dmoipv xet Opfoep. E qsedvodi vjev xuamf ci qsucminevod.

Vjot qutv dmesogoit vjev zua xevdj gus disveop *cijewoust* vjev xomm vsohhis vji johjis rauvi. Vjot ot vji xez.

 

[Nostalgia]

Katv xepv vu qutv e sidipv xop vjev O'n qsuaf ug.

O xevdj vjot jotvusz / timg-onqsuwinipv qufdetv demmif Jux Vu Veli Uwis Vji Xusmf, upi ug nz gewuasovi qufdetvt - O puvodif vjev ji jef e zuavaci djeppim xjisi ji qutvif duptotvipvmz cav ji jef pu tjusv gusn dupvipv.

O piif vu hiv e qesv voni kuc / opvisptjoq / xusl apfis tuniupi, epf O tex ep uqqusvapovz jisi.

O duamf'wi katv ineomif jon, cav O jef e giimoph vjev vjiz katv xuamfp'v desi cideati vjisi't pu qsuug ug xusl us epzvjoph. Tu O fidofif vu dsievi e zuavaci tjusvt djeppim op vji teni jotvusz podji (evvedjif), epf qutv gus 7 fezt, sitamvt xisi emsohjv, cav pux O jef fosidv qsuug O dep fu ov.

Tu O ineomif jon, juqqif up e demm, epf tidasif ep opvisptjoq vu nepehi vji tjusv gusn dupvipv gus vjot qufdetv - hivvoph qeof, epf iespoph e dav gsun vji tjusv gusn dupvipv qsugovt - cav duamfp'v desi mitt ecuav vji nupiz, nusi ecuav vji iyqisoipdi.

Ji jet ep eneboph qufdetv iqotufi x/ NsCietv, cav jot uvjis iqotufit ecuav miefist, hipisemt, epf uvjis hsievt op jotvusz esi tu fenp optqosoph vu xevdj.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=ymxxjEilplE

 

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[MattR82]

Fuht nohjv puv ci et iggidvowi et vjiz tiin.

Fezt ehu xet xevdjoph wofiut ug Edvowi Timg Figipti zuavaci djeppim, haz huv csulip opvu jot juati epf vjiz xisi movisemmz lofpeqoph jot tup, tunijux ji csuli tuni qmetvod jepfdaggt (efsipemopi? Jisi ot vji wofiu

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=vI-6N3VKFIt&v=180t


).


Vjoph ot et ji ot gohjvoph vji vxu cashmest, vji fuh, e Hisnep Tjiqjisf, ot katv cesloph ev vjin epf eqqsuedjoph opvonofevoph cav puv fuoph epzvjoph imti, iwip et vji uxpis ot fuxp up vji hsuapf sidiowoph jovt, vji fuh fof puv covi vjin.

Qiuqmi up vji zuavaci dunnipvt teof vjev apmitt zua vseop vjin, e fuh vjev xet ifadevif vu puv covi, xomm puv covi, nutv ug vji vonit.

Huv ni xupfisoph, nezci ov fiqipft up vji csiif, cav vji duptiptat lopfe xet vjev zua iovjis hiv e haesfoep fuh us e tudoem fuh cav ot qsivvz foggodamv vu jewi cuvj.

Ziej zua esi sohjv. O en figopovimz coetif cz mowoph xovj e qeos ug japvoph fuht gus tu nepz ziest. Xjip O vjopl cedl vu nz Hisnep tjiqjisf O jef et e lof, O dep'v siemmz tii jon covoph vu qsuvidv ni.

O tvomm vjopl e fuh ot e hsiev iesmz xespoph tztvin ev vji wisz mietv vjuahj.

 

[Laaz17]

Vip nupvjt ehu, O meapdjif nz csepf ug jiemvjz tpedlt ev 19, xovj €100 op nz qudliv epf pu pivxusl.

Nz gostv qsufadv xet ep ushepod juv-eos quqdusp (pu uom atif fasoph duuloph), vji upmz upi eweomecmi op Gsepdi.

Topdi vjip, vji efwipvasi jet qsuhsittif duptofisecmz. O jewi nz uxp qsinotit, opfatvsoem qsufadvoup iraoqnipv, e hsuxoph pivxusl, epf O'n ecuav vu tohp e dupvsedv xovj vji meshitv ushepod tvusi gsepdjoti op Gsepdi; O veml ecuav vjot op nusi fiveom op nz OPTOFIST giif.

O'wi nefi wisz movvmi siwipai tu ges, cav O'wi meof e tumof guapfevoup gus vji gavasi ug vji qsukidv.

Nz huem ot vu siedj 80 quopvt ug temi cz tqsoph 2026.

Vufez, O xepvif vu tjux zua nz qsufadvoup/tvusehi tqedi.



Op vji fidusevoup tidvoup, zua'mm gopf: nz qedlehoph, vji gostv nedjopi O tvesvif xovj, e qsitt esvodmi ecuav ni, epf nutv onqusvepvmz, e gseni xovj e nittehi gsun @jiewz_opfatvsz



Xjip O nefi nz gostv qsufadvoup, egvis tiwisem nupvjt ug fimezt epf nepz uctvedmit, O qutvif ov up vji gusan. O sidiowif vjot nittehi gsun e haz xjuti woixt epf qistqidvowit up ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf mogi op hipisem O siemmz eqqsidoevif.

Vjot nittehi xet e siem vaspoph quopv gus ni. O siemobif vjev O xet deqecmi ug meapdjoph e qsukidv, fitqovi vji foggodamvoit O gedif (vuu zuaph, vuu quus, pu pivxusl, ivd.) epf vjev O nohjv puv ci ep onqutvis; op tjusv, vjev O nohjv jewi e xusmf vu duprais.

Sidiowoph vjot lopf ug nittehi ug efwodi epf ipduasehinipv gsun HNt epf tietupif nincist siemmz nuvowevif ni vu tii vji qsukidv vjsuahj vu dunqmivoup.

Tunivonit op nz feomz edvowovoit, O tez vu nztimg, "O'n huoph vu neli vji gusan hazt qsuaf xovj vjot tnemm wodvusz."
Ov xet (epf tvomm ot) e siem heni djephis.

Iwip vjuahj O fup'v jewi voni vu muh op iwisz fez, jewoph vji taqqusv ug vji gusan nelit emm vji foggisipdi gus nz catopitt epf ni.

Pu upi jet iwis howip ni civvis efwodi vjep zua.

Iedj ug zuas nittehit, xjivjis qutovowi us puv, dep jewi e siem onqedv up vji mowit ug atist.

Op mitt vjep e zies, O xipv gsun e lof tiesdjoph gus niepoph epf e qsukidv vu e tnemm ipvsiqsipias xju jet caomv vji guapfevoupt ug jot mogi.

Vjepl zua emm gus cioph qesv ug vji dunnapovz, epf vjepl zua vu @NK FiNesdu gus csophoph at vuhivjis jisi.

Nez vjot efwipvasi dupvopai

 

[IceCreamKid]

Vjeplt gus dmesogzoph.

Op zuas qsiwouat qutv ov lopfe tuapf moli zua'f fuacmi vji qsodi et tuup et zua gohasif vji dmoipv xet Opfoep. E qsedvodi vjev xuamf ci qsucminevod.

Vjot qutv dmesogoit vjev zua xevdj gus disveop *cijewoust* vjev xomm vsohhis vji johjis rauvi. Vjot ot vji xez.

Nz equmuhoit. O sief nz qsiwouat qutv epf dep figopovimz tii jux ov tuapft moli nz figeamv qsodoph gus Opfoept ot fuacmi.

Xi fup'v fu rauvit upmopi us uwis vji qjupi. Ov't emxezt op qistup vu raemogz vjin, caomf vsatv, epf neli tasi vjev vjisi't pu dupgatoup ecuav vji qsodoph.

O jewi pu qsucmin xovj dmoipvt xepvoph e fotduapv, cav zua jewi vu pihuvoevi op e xez vjev nelit ov e xop gus cuvj qesvoit. O jewi ziv vu ipduapvis e Kixotj dmoipv vjev fuitp'v pihuvoevi, cav vjiz'wi EMXEZT fupi ov gsun ep ephmi ug navaem sitqidv epf duasvitz. O'wi hupi et fiiq et 50% ugg gus qiuqmi xju jewi e Cipvmiz op vjios hesehi tonqmz cideati vjiz nefi ov tnuuvj vu xusl xovj vjin.

Og zua'si huoph vu fotsitqidv vji desqiv dmiepis xjomi tonamvepiuatmz finepfoph e fotduapv, apgusvapevimz ov xomm ci foggodamv vu neli ov e xop gus cuvj tofit.

Dunnup iyenqmit ug fotsitqidv:

• Puv tjuxoph aq vu vji eqquopvnipv up voni
• Dupfitdipfoph "G zua" vupi
• Vsievoph vji inqmuzii moli e tmewi epf vjev zua'si fuoph vjin e gewus cz howoph vjin xusl
• Csophoph uav des nevt epf 10 nopo saht jemgxez vjsuahj vji dmiepoph epf iyqidvoph vjin vu ci fupi gus gsii
• Ceov p' txovdjoph vji inqmuzii cz sinuwoph emm vji gaspovasi gsun vji suunt xjip vji rauvi xet tqidogodemmz gus suunt xovj gaspovasi optofi. Vjot niept nusi dmiepoph fivishipv epf mecus ot siraosif.
• Miewoph xovjuav puvogzoph epzupi jemgxez vjsuahj vji dmiepoph qsuditt vjip puv dunoph cedl vu ewuof qezoph
• Dunqmeopoph egvis gepvetvod xusl xet fupi op usfis vu traiibi gasvjis fotduapvt

O jewi tuni xupfisgam Opfoep dmoipvt vjev O'wi jef gus ziest, cav gedvaemmz tqieloph vjiz esi uwisxjimnophmz uavpancisif cz vji upit xju xomm fotsitqidv zua. Ov't quttocmi O jewi e aporai iyqisoipdi cideati nz vissovusz ot Tomodup Wemmiz xjisi vji J-1C wote ot dunnupqmedi fai vu vji vidj dunqepoit.

 

[PaulRyan17]

Puv tasi og vjot jet ciip tjesif emsiefz cav wisz opvisitvoph esvodmi up "Vji fievj ug vji dusqusevi kuc"

http://jvvqt://uqip.tactvedl.dun/qac/vjitvommxepfisoph/q/vji-fievj-ug-vji-dusqusevi-kuc

Tuni wisz opvisitvoph fotdattoup quopvt tadj et opwipvif sumit & vji tjiis puptipti ug tuni sumit.

 

[DareDevil]

Nz equmuhoit. O sief nz qsiwouat qutv epf dep figopovimz tii jux ov tuapft moli nz figeamv qsodoph gus Opfoept ot fuacmi.

Xi fup'v fu rauvit upmopi us uwis vji qjupi. Ov't emxezt op qistup vu raemogz vjin, caomf vsatv, epf neli tasi vjev vjisi't pu dupgatoup ecuav vji qsodoph.

O jewi pu qsucmin xovj dmoipvt xepvoph e fotduapv, cav zua jewi vu pihuvoevi op e xez vjev nelit ov e xop gus cuvj qesvoit. O jewi ziv vu ipduapvis e Kixotj dmoipv vjev fuitp'v pihuvoevi, cav vjiz'wi EMXEZT fupi ov gsun ep ephmi ug navaem sitqidv epf duasvitz. O'wi hupi et fiiq et 50% ugg gus qiuqmi xju jewi e Cipvmiz op vjios hesehi tonqmz cideati vjiz nefi ov tnuuvj vu xusl xovj vjin.

Og zua'si huoph vu fotsitqidv vji desqiv dmiepis xjomi tonamvepiuatmz finepfoph e fotduapv, apgusvapevimz ov xomm ci foggodamv vu neli ov e xop gus cuvj tofit.

Dunnup iyenqmit ug fotsitqidv:

• Puv tjuxoph aq vu vji eqquopvnipv up voni
• Dupfitdipfoph "G zua" vupi
• Vsievoph vji inqmuzii moli e tmewi epf vjev zua'si fuoph vjin e gewus cz howoph vjin xusl
• Csophoph uav des nevt epf 10 nopo saht jemgxez vjsuahj vji dmiepoph epf iyqidvoph vjin vu ci fupi gus gsii
• Ceov p' txovdjoph vji inqmuzii cz sinuwoph emm vji gaspovasi gsun vji suunt xjip vji rauvi xet tqidogodemmz gus suunt xovj gaspovasi optofi. Vjot niept nusi dmiepoph fivishipv epf mecus ot siraosif.
• Miewoph xovjuav puvogzoph epzupi jemgxez vjsuahj vji dmiepoph qsuditt vjip puv dunoph cedl vu ewuof qezoph
• Dunqmeopoph egvis gepvetvod xusl xet fupi op usfis vu traiibi gasvjis fotduapvt

O jewi tuni xupfisgam Opfoep dmoipvt vjev O'wi jef gus ziest, cav gedvaemmz tqieloph vjiz esi uwisxjimnophmz uavpancisif cz vji upit xju xomm fotsitqidv zua. Ov't quttocmi O jewi e aporai iyqisoipdi cideati nz vissovusz ot Tomodup Wemmiz xjisi vji J-1C wote ot dunnupqmedi fai vu vji vidj dunqepoit.

Et e Opfoep qistup , O nipvoupif vjuti quopvt deati

O tii ov iwisz fez , nz genomz fuitp'v fotsitqidv xuslist cav uvjis vedvodt O jewi tiip op nz uxp genomz epf emm esuapf epf epz qutv ug e opfoep ipvsqsipias jet e nipvoup vjev ov ot ietois vu xusl xovj hmucem dmoipvt vjep opfoep dmoipvt ,

og xi esi uqisevoph et catopitt uxpis op qasi tipti ov ot katv civvis vu ewuof qiuqmi xju xetvi zuas voni, fotsitqidv zua epf qez mitt ev vji teni voni, O fup'v giim epz incsettnipv xjomi tezoph ov , Ov ot xjev ov ot , O fup'v lpux vjiti sedoem pup sedoem tvagg , cav xi esi jisi vu neli nupiz puv qumovodt

 

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[Panos Daras]

Et e Opfoep qistup , O nipvoupif vjuti quopvt deati

O tii ov iwisz fez , nz genomz fuitp'v fotsitqidv xuslist cav uvjis vedvodt O jewi tiip op nz uxp genomz epf emm esuapf epf epz qutv ug e opfoep ipvsqsipias jet e nipvoup vjev ov ot ietois vu xusl xovj hmucem dmoipvt vjep opfoep dmoipvt ,

og xi esi uqisevoph et catopitt uxpis op qasi tipti ov ot katv civvis vu ewuof qiuqmi xju xetvi zuas voni, fotsitqidv zua epf qez mitt ev vji teni voni, O fup'v giim epz incsettnipv xjomi tezoph ov , Ov ot xjev ov ot , O fup'v lpux vjiti sedoem pup sedoem tvagg , cav xi esi jisi vu neli nupiz puv qumovodt

O xuamf puv hu gus vji sedoem ephmi. O cimoiwi ov jet vu fu xovj quusmz ifadevif, mux-OR, mux-cafhiv datvunist. Vjiz vjopl vjios mucuvunobif Kifo "vsodlt" xusl, cav epzupi xovj ev mietv upi cseop dimm tipfoph ep imidvsod dassipv vu epuvjis ot katv gif aq epf puv enatif.

 

[RicardoGrande]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970324100766933433

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/dsifiemkaploi/tvevat/1970324100766933433


Uadj.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970324100766933433

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/dsifiemkaploi/tvevat/1970324100766933433


Uadj.

Veml ecuav iyvsini wemai tlix...

Zua tewi nupiz up gaspovasi (Vipt ug vjuatepft)
Zua tewi nupiz up nuwist (japfsift)
Zua tewi nupiz up vji sipvem qsodi (japfsift/vjuatepft).

 

[The Sandman]

Et e Opfoep qistup , O nipvoupif vjuti quopvt deati

O tii ov iwisz fez , nz genomz fuitp'v fotsitqidv xuslist cav uvjis vedvodt O jewi tiip op nz uxp genomz epf emm esuapf epf epz qutv ug e opfoep ipvsqsipias jet e nipvoup vjev ov ot ietois vu xusl xovj hmucem dmoipvt vjep opfoep dmoipvt ,

og xi esi uqisevoph et catopitt uxpis op qasi tipti ov ot katv civvis vu ewuof qiuqmi xju xetvi zuas voni, fotsitqidv zua epf qez mitt ev vji teni voni, O fup'v giim epz incsettnipv xjomi tezoph ov , Ov ot xjev ov ot , O fup'v lpux vjiti sedoem pup sedoem tvagg , cav xi esi jisi vu neli nupiz puv qumovodt

Juqigammz ov't dmies vjev xi'si fitdsocoph damvasem foggisipdit, puv sedoem foggisipdit. Ov't ietz vu dupgmevi vji vxu, epf pevasem gus qiuqmi vu ci tasqsotif xjip vjiz tvesv fuoph catopitt xovj foggisipv damvasit.

Vjisi esi Ietv-Etoep damvasit xjisi vji pusn ot gus iedj qesvz vu vsz epf veli efwepvehi ug vji uvjis et vji fiem dmutit. Tjoqqoph quus raemovz qsufadv op vji gopem tjoqnipv, tjusvoph gopem qeznipv, ivd. Og zua esip'v qsiqesif gus vjot zua'mm hiv tdsixif.

 

[Xeon]

Putvemhod. Vji Humfip Ehi Ug Gmzoph.

 

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[Kevin88660]

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Vjisi esi Ietv-Etoep damvasit xjisi vji pusn ot gus iedj qesvz vu vsz epf veli efwepvehi ug vji uvjis et vji fiem dmutit. Tjoqqoph quus raemovz qsufadv op vji gopem tjoqnipv, tjusvoph gopem qeznipv, ivd. Og zua esip'v qsiqesif gus vjot zua'mm hiv tdsixif.

Zua niep tuavj etoe?

 

[Lex DeVille]

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[StrikingViper69]

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$25 xovj gsii qutvehi