And why is it that we aren't espousing our opinions in that carnivore thread here at the forum?
If I popped in there every time I found evidence that their diet was stupid, I'd be bumping that thread weekly.
But I don't bother.
And I'll tell you why and Jon alluded to it: I don't bother going to a flat-earth forum to tell those folks about round earth. I don't go to the communism sub-Reddit and speak about capitalism.
I've done my research. I looked at the studies, I've examined my own blood work and bio-markers (not, "gee I feel better!").
But Mylie Cyrus was vEGan for 6 moNtThs aNd beCaMe eMaciaTEDd and malNOurisHed dRinKing only CeleRy wAteR! Gee, ya think?
Anyway, as a man in my 50s, I find this funny....
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What is normal today will, one day, be laughed at 30 years from now.
The normal idea that a diet in meat and dairy ("the carnivore diet") is even remotely healthy is one of these ridiculous ideas that will be subject to ridicule in the distant future—even in moderation, like smoking cigarettes in moderation is OK.
The carnivore diet is to longevity as Dropshipping and MLM is to Fastlane.
I find it terribly sad that the most victims of this ridiculousness are young people like yourself.
Thing is, these types of ideas (and beliefs) will DIE with their holders as they hit their 50s, 60s, 70s, and beyond, if they even make it that far. Time will reveal the truth through aches, pains, and disease, or worse— death.
The only thing slowing down this truth that plants extend life and meat/dairy does not, is the indirect association to the World Economic Forum, the meat/dairy/sugar lobby and the climate agenda which naturally makes people like me, suspicious.
I've been able to separate the agenda from the facts, but only after sorting through a lot of BS by conflicted interests, and people with programs and diet plans to sell.
I didn't go
vegan 6 years ago because I read some studies, if that's what you're inferring.
But the studies that have accumulated over that time certainly validate I made the right decision, if not my personal results, biochemistry, and disappearance of every ailment I had in my 30's, caused by the well-touted, well-studied, influencer-backed "paleolithic" diet— the diet you espouse which BTW, helped me pack on muscle, but by the time I was in my late-thirties, I was well onto a path of disease and a life filled with pharma medications.
BTW, if I happen to die anytime soon, it won't be because of my plant-based diet, it will be because of the horrific diet I followed in my 30s and early 40s which wreaked havoc on my body.
The guy with a PhD provided pretty substantive evidence from sources not funded by the Dairy Council or Cattleman's Beef Association, if you can cut through a lot of the scientific minutiae.
An example of a "trip wire" that Jon mentions is a PhD researcher who loves steak, has no interest in plant-based diets, but ultimately comes to that conclusion after X,XXX studies reveal it to be so, including his own.
It's funny — I've watched Sinclair in the video on a variety of podcasts and he always has to dance around the topic of diet because he knows as soon as he says "eat mostly plants" the audience will get triggered—on par with saying "vote Democrat" or "vote Republican" — He knows humans are dogmatic in matters of religion, politics, and diet, damn the data or the longevity studies of people in their 80s, 90s, 100s.
Please Mike, don't make me remove you from the thread. I didn't create this thread for your debate, or to convince you.
EAT WHAT YOU WANT.
And live with it.
Again, you don't see us in the carnivore thread debating their diet, do you?
But yet, here you are....