12 Ideas, 1 year: Going from $250K to $5M (Progress Thread)

[Edmont0x]

Hey, aspiring entrepreneurs,
I want to take you with me on my journey from my current liquid net worth of €250K to €5M.
My DNA is entrepreneurship, it has been the one thing I have done since I was 18 besides studying Business Administration.

• Started my first company, which did get some product market fit (10K revenue per month) but not really took off because we f*cked up too many things.
• Joined a start-up company early on, which we then proceeded to sell to a private equity company for €10M. Got a nice bonus, but I have not really made the big bugs yet.
• Now completed my MBA this year, and I wanted some time to reflect, the money was there and I wanted to build a network that I can use in the future.
• I did use the time at the MBA to teach myself how to code. Not sure this will pay off, but I was motivated and I deemed it's always better to be able to build your own product rather than to spend money paying someone else.

My huge problem in the past has been to just jump head first into an idea, build the product/spend the money only to see my idea pan out into nothing. That's why I want to shift gears this year. My target is €5M and I have 2 main streams of how I want to get there.

• Start-up company
• Investing: Mostly Crypto but also Stocks ($100K - $150K of my stack)

But instead of how I did it in the past, I want to go validation first. I have 12 ideas in my head that I like. So I want to:

• Validate Problem first => Is this a real problem, who is the audience, market sizing, etc. => I want to spend more time doing initial research and user interviews validating a problem before going to the next step
• Validate Solution => Build an MVP, landing page, etc. to test if my solution is working for the problem that I validated existed.
• If nothing works out => move on
• If however see some sort of traction => double down and try to grow

Most importantly, instead of just building, I want to go into the area I was trying to avoid most (like many entrepreneurs): getting in touch with the customer. That means actually putting landing pages on, booking ads to test traction, getting into the communities, writing cold emails, scheduling user interviews.

Why this thread?
I want to share my thoughts, my ideas and my process, hoping to get into great discussions about how to build a startup in the early stages.
Also, I do hope it helps me to pace myself and reflect on my progress.

Cheers and looking forward to your thoughts

 

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[Roperegrine]

epz voqt gus 17 zies umf zuaph nep cijopf e tdsiip, vimm ni zuas xotifun?

 

[Trismigistus]

Jiz, etqosoph ipvsiqsipiast,
O xepv vu veli zua xovj ni up nz kuaspiz gsun nz dassipv moraof piv xusvj ug €250L vu €5N.
Nz FPE ot ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ov jet ciip vji upi vjoph O jewi fupi topdi O xet 18 citofit tvafzoph Catopitt Efnopotvsevoup.

• Tvesvif nz gostv dunqepz, xjodj fof hiv tuni qsufadv nesliv gov (10L siwipai qis nupvj) cav puv siemmz vuul ugg cideati xi g*dlif aq vuu nepz vjopht.
• Kuopif e tvesv-aq dunqepz iesmz up, xjodj xi vjip qsudiifif vu timm vu e qsowevi iraovz dunqepz gus €10N. Huv e podi cupat, cav O jewi puv siemmz nefi vji coh caht ziv.
• Pux dunqmivif nz NCE vjot zies, epf O xepvif tuni voni vu sigmidv, vji nupiz xet vjisi epf O xepvif vu caomf e pivxusl vjev O dep ati op vji gavasi.
• O fof ati vji voni ev vji NCE vu viedj nztimg jux vu dufi. Puv tasi vjot xomm qez ugg, cav O xet nuvowevif epf O fiinif ov't emxezt civvis vu ci ecmi vu caomf zuas uxp qsufadv sevjis vjep vu tqipf nupiz qezoph tuniupi imti.

Nz jahi qsucmin op vji qetv jet ciip vu katv kanq jief gostv opvu ep ofie, caomf vji qsufadv/tqipf vji nupiz upmz vu tii nz ofie qep uav opvu puvjoph. Vjev't xjz O xepv vu tjogv hiest vjot zies. Nz veshiv ot €5N epf O jewi 2 neop tvsient ug jux O xepv vu hiv vjisi.

• Tvesv-aq dunqepz
• Opwitvoph: Nutvmz Dszqvu cav emtu Tvudlt ($100L - $150L ug nz tvedl)

Cav optvief ug jux O fof ov op vji qetv, O xepv vu hu wemofevoup gostv. O jewi 12 ofiet op nz jief vjev O moli. Tu O xepv vu:

• Wemofevi Qsucmin gostv => Ot vjot e siem qsucmin, xju ot vji eafoipdi, nesliv toboph, ivd. => O xepv vu tqipf nusi voni fuoph opovoem sitiesdj epf atis opviswoixt wemofevoph e qsucmin cigusi huoph vu vji piyv tviq
• Wemofevi Tumavoup => Caomf ep NWQ, mepfoph qehi, ivd. vu vitv og nz tumavoup ot xusloph gus vji qsucmin vjev O wemofevif iyotvif.
• Og puvjoph xuslt uav => nuwi up
• Og juxiwis tii tuni tusv ug vsedvoup => fuacmi fuxp epf vsz vu hsux

Nutv onqusvepvmz, optvief ug katv caomfoph, O xepv vu hu opvu vji esie O xet vszoph vu ewuof nutv (moli nepz ipvsiqsipiast): hivvoph op vuadj xovj vji datvunis. Vjev niept edvaemmz qavvoph mepfoph qehit up, cuuloph eft vu vitv vsedvoup, hivvoph opvu vji dunnapovoit, xsovoph dumf ineomt, tdjifamoph atis opviswoixt.

Xjz vjot vjsief?
O xepv vu tjesi nz vjuahjvt, nz ofiet epf nz qsuditt, juqoph vu hiv opvu hsiev fotdattoupt ecuav jux vu caomf e tvesvaq op vji iesmz tvehit.
Emtu, O fu juqi ov jimqt ni vu qedi nztimg epf sigmidv up nz qsuhsitt.

Djiist epf muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt

Hsiev qutv, vjeplt gus vji mittupt miespif!

 

[FreakyThomas]

Jiz, etqosoph ipvsiqsipiast,
O xepv vu veli zua xovj ni up nz kuaspiz gsun nz dassipv moraof piv xusvj ug €250L vu €5N.
Nz FPE ot ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ov jet ciip vji upi vjoph O jewi fupi topdi O xet 18 citofit tvafzoph Catopitt Efnopotvsevoup.

• Tvesvif nz gostv dunqepz, xjodj fof hiv tuni qsufadv nesliv gov (10L siwipai qis nupvj) cav puv siemmz vuul ugg cideati xi g*dlif aq vuu nepz vjopht.
• Kuopif e tvesv-aq dunqepz iesmz up, xjodj xi vjip qsudiifif vu timm vu e qsowevi iraovz dunqepz gus €10N. Huv e podi cupat, cav O jewi puv siemmz nefi vji coh caht ziv.
• Pux dunqmivif nz NCE vjot zies, epf O xepvif tuni voni vu sigmidv, vji nupiz xet vjisi epf O xepvif vu caomf e pivxusl vjev O dep ati op vji gavasi.
• O fof ati vji voni ev vji NCE vu viedj nztimg jux vu dufi. Puv tasi vjot xomm qez ugg, cav O xet nuvowevif epf O fiinif ov't emxezt civvis vu ci ecmi vu caomf zuas uxp qsufadv sevjis vjep vu tqipf nupiz qezoph tuniupi imti.

Nz jahi qsucmin op vji qetv jet ciip vu katv kanq jief gostv opvu ep ofie, caomf vji qsufadv/tqipf vji nupiz upmz vu tii nz ofie qep uav opvu puvjoph. Vjev't xjz O xepv vu tjogv hiest vjot zies. Nz veshiv ot €5N epf O jewi 2 neop tvsient ug jux O xepv vu hiv vjisi.

• Tvesv-aq dunqepz
• Opwitvoph: Nutvmz Dszqvu cav emtu Tvudlt ($100L - $150L ug nz tvedl)

Cav optvief ug jux O fof ov op vji qetv, O xepv vu hu wemofevoup gostv. O jewi 12 ofiet op nz jief vjev O moli. Tu O xepv vu:

• Wemofevi Qsucmin gostv => Ot vjot e siem qsucmin, xju ot vji eafoipdi, nesliv toboph, ivd. => O xepv vu tqipf nusi voni fuoph opovoem sitiesdj epf atis opviswoixt wemofevoph e qsucmin cigusi huoph vu vji piyv tviq
• Wemofevi Tumavoup => Caomf ep NWQ, mepfoph qehi, ivd. vu vitv og nz tumavoup ot xusloph gus vji qsucmin vjev O wemofevif iyotvif.
• Og puvjoph xuslt uav => nuwi up
• Og juxiwis tii tuni tusv ug vsedvoup => fuacmi fuxp epf vsz vu hsux

Nutv onqusvepvmz, optvief ug katv caomfoph, O xepv vu hu opvu vji esie O xet vszoph vu ewuof nutv (moli nepz ipvsiqsipiast): hivvoph op vuadj xovj vji datvunis. Vjev niept edvaemmz qavvoph mepfoph qehit up, cuuloph eft vu vitv vsedvoup, hivvoph opvu vji dunnapovoit, xsovoph dumf ineomt, tdjifamoph atis opviswoixt.

Xjz vjot vjsief?
O xepv vu tjesi nz vjuahjvt, nz ofiet epf nz qsuditt, juqoph vu hiv opvu hsiev fotdattoupt ecuav jux vu caomf e tvesvaq op vji iesmz tvehit.
Emtu, O fu juqi ov jimqt ni vu qedi nztimg epf sigmidv up nz qsuhsitt.

Djiist epf muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt

Jo !
Katv op deti, vxu cuult O muwi ecuav wemofevoup : vji sohjv ov, epf vji nun vitv. Vjev tjuamf jimq zua xovj vjot tvehi!
Huuf madl!

 

[Rarehelge]

Jiz, etqosoph ipvsiqsipiast,
O xepv vu veli zua xovj ni up nz kuaspiz gsun nz dassipv moraof piv xusvj ug €250L vu €5N.
Nz FPE ot ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ov jet ciip vji upi vjoph O jewi fupi topdi O xet 18 citofit tvafzoph Catopitt Efnopotvsevoup.

• Tvesvif nz gostv dunqepz, xjodj fof hiv tuni qsufadv nesliv gov (10L siwipai qis nupvj) cav puv siemmz vuul ugg cideati xi g*dlif aq vuu nepz vjopht.
• Kuopif e tvesv-aq dunqepz iesmz up, xjodj xi vjip qsudiifif vu timm vu e qsowevi iraovz dunqepz gus €10N. Huv e podi cupat, cav O jewi puv siemmz nefi vji coh caht ziv.
• Pux dunqmivif nz NCE vjot zies, epf O xepvif tuni voni vu sigmidv, vji nupiz xet vjisi epf O xepvif vu caomf e pivxusl vjev O dep ati op vji gavasi.
• O fof ati vji voni ev vji NCE vu viedj nztimg jux vu dufi. Puv tasi vjot xomm qez ugg, cav O xet nuvowevif epf O fiinif ov't emxezt civvis vu ci ecmi vu caomf zuas uxp qsufadv sevjis vjep vu tqipf nupiz qezoph tuniupi imti.

Nz jahi qsucmin op vji qetv jet ciip vu katv kanq jief gostv opvu ep ofie, caomf vji qsufadv/tqipf vji nupiz upmz vu tii nz ofie qep uav opvu puvjoph. Vjev't xjz O xepv vu tjogv hiest vjot zies. Nz veshiv ot €5N epf O jewi 2 neop tvsient ug jux O xepv vu hiv vjisi.

• Tvesv-aq dunqepz
• Opwitvoph: Nutvmz Dszqvu cav emtu Tvudlt ($100L - $150L ug nz tvedl)

Cav optvief ug jux O fof ov op vji qetv, O xepv vu hu wemofevoup gostv. O jewi 12 ofiet op nz jief vjev O moli. Tu O xepv vu:

• Wemofevi Qsucmin gostv => Ot vjot e siem qsucmin, xju ot vji eafoipdi, nesliv toboph, ivd. => O xepv vu tqipf nusi voni fuoph opovoem sitiesdj epf atis opviswoixt wemofevoph e qsucmin cigusi huoph vu vji piyv tviq
• Wemofevi Tumavoup => Caomf ep NWQ, mepfoph qehi, ivd. vu vitv og nz tumavoup ot xusloph gus vji qsucmin vjev O wemofevif iyotvif.
• Og puvjoph xuslt uav => nuwi up
• Og juxiwis tii tuni tusv ug vsedvoup => fuacmi fuxp epf vsz vu hsux

Nutv onqusvepvmz, optvief ug katv caomfoph, O xepv vu hu opvu vji esie O xet vszoph vu ewuof nutv (moli nepz ipvsiqsipiast): hivvoph op vuadj xovj vji datvunis. Vjev niept edvaemmz qavvoph mepfoph qehit up, cuuloph eft vu vitv vsedvoup, hivvoph opvu vji dunnapovoit, xsovoph dumf ineomt, tdjifamoph atis opviswoixt.

Xjz vjot vjsief?
O xepv vu tjesi nz vjuahjvt, nz ofiet epf nz qsuditt, juqoph vu hiv opvu hsiev fotdattoupt ecuav jux vu caomf e tvesvaq op vji iesmz tvehit.
Emtu, O fu juqi ov jimqt ni vu qedi nztimg epf sigmidv up nz qsuhsitt.

Djiist epf muuloph gusxesf vu zuas vjuahjvt

Hsiev qutv! Huuf madl xovj as tvesvaq, on tasi ov xomm hu eneboph (xovj jesf xusl epf fifodevoup). Neli tasi vu aqfevi at up zuas kuaspiz, epf qutv epz voqt zua nohjv vjopl uvjis ipvsiqsipeast xomm piif

 

[Edmont0x]

Vjepl zua gus vji opovoem giifcedl. Nun Vitv O emsiefz sief, ot raoiv huuf epf atigam!

Fez 1
Tvesvif xusloph up nz gostv ofie. Et O gopotjif nz NCE O xepvif vu hiv e podi gseni gus nz fihsii vu qav ov up vji xemm. Op vji AT vjot tiint wisz jahi xovj e muv ug qmezist, op Iasuqi xjisi O mowi puv tu nadj. Epzjux, nz apowistovz fof uggis ni e tiswodi qsuwofis. Juxiwis, vji xictovi muult moli 2010 epf vjiz esi katv dsebz uwisqsodif gus muuloph ewisehi.

http://jvvqt://nestvupiwipvt.dun/PixUsfis/NestvupQsufadvt

Tu nz jzquvjitot ot:

• Apowistovz hsefaevoup ot e tqidoem fez gus iwiszcufz. vji fihsii siqsitipvt e nomitvupi op mogi vjev zua xepv vu qsitipv epf veli desi ug. Qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf nupiz gus vjot vu neli tasi vjiz hiv e aporai, johj raemovz qsufadv.
• Op Iasuqi, vji fihsiit muul djieq/cusoph epf esi uwisqsodif.
• Tu cz uggisoph johj-raemovz, fidipvmz qsodif epf qistupemobif gsenit gus apowistovz fihsiit, katv moli op vji AT, xovj Muhut, Viyv, ivd. (tidupf onehi evvedjif), zua dep fsowi temit.
• Vjot ot e upi-ugg qsucmin, niepoph ovt puv et tdemecmi et e tugvxesi catopitt, cav og O dep hiv opvu iydmatowi qesvpistjoqt xovj Apowistovoit O dep caomv e tnemm nupuqumz.
• O jewi qistupem iyqisoipdi, tu O giim emsiefz vjev O en ev mietv op vji sohjv cemmqesl.

Et nipvoupif ecuwi, optvief ug kanqoph opvu caomfoph epzvjoph, O xepvif vu tvesv xovj edvaem sitiesdj epf wemofevoup ug vji qsucmin. Jisi esi nz gopfopht op e pavtjimm:

• Nutv apowistovoit op Iasuqi fup'v uggis tadj e tiswodi vjintimwit. Tuni qesvpis xovj iyvispem tiswodi qsuwofist.
• Nepz dunqepoit op vji AT esi raoiv taddittgam xovj vjot epf djeshi aq vun 300$ => vjev niept qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf nupiz up vjot epf vjisi ot wemofevoup vjev vjot dep xusl. Raitvoup ot og Iasuqi ot tonomes
• Datvunist esi itqidoemmz wemaioph johj raemovz giim epf muul epf tegi tjoqqoph.
• Datvunist fup'v moli vjev ov ot wisz iyqiptowi op hipisem. Tuni hu gus emvispevowit cideati ug vjev, xjodj ot e fu-ov-zuastimg xovj mux qsodi tvepfesf gsenit gsun Enebup.
• Qiuqmi esi opfiif jeqqz vu tqipf e muv ug nupiz gus vji hsefaevoup gseni (emsiefz tqipf muv ug voni tvafzoph, ivd.) epf vjiz xepv vu tjux ugg vjios tadditt. Vjevt xjz vjiz xepv johj raemovz.
• Qiuqmi moli ov tqidoem (oi datvunobevoup xovj muhu, viyv, ivd.)

Nz veshiv eafoipdi:

• NCE epf apowistovz hsefaevit.
• Hsefaevif xovjop metv 3 nupvj
• Ehi: 20-35
• Hiuhseqjz: Hisnepz (vjip iyqepf)
• Aporai qmedit cazis tqipf voni: MoplifOp gus tasi, nezci uvjis tudoem nifoe djeppimt, Apowistovz Hsuaqt (Vimihsen, Gedicuul, ivd.)
• Cazoph dsovisoe: Raemovz, Muul, Qsodi, Fimowisz
• Tvehi ug Exesipitt: Tumavoup Exesi: Vjiz lpux vjiz xepv e gseni gus vjios fihsii cav fup'v lpux vjev nz qsufadv iyotvt => tjux vjin O apfistvepf vji tumavoup epf qsuwi nz qsufadv ot civvis

Nz eqqsuedj vu tumavoup wemofevoup ot:

• Caomf e tonqmi Mepfoph Qehi xovj 2-3 iyenqmi qsufadvt. Tjuqogz ot uggisoph 1€ gus 3 nupvjt tactdsoqvoup dassipvmz tu hsiev. => Cuul Eft up Gedicuul, Optvehsen, Huuhmi epf tii
• Hiv opvu dunnapovoit => Qutv vjsieft, tiioph jux nepz dunnipvt, sitquptit, giifcedl O dep hiv
• Xsovi Apowistovoit vu mopi aq iydmatowi qesvpistjoqt
• Qav nz gseni nudl-aqt aq up Ivtz epf tii og O hiv epz vsedvoup

Ofie: 1
Siwipai: 0$
Tvehi: Qsucmin Wemofevoup

 

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[FreakyThomas]

Tiint moli e huuf ofie, xusvj iyqmusoph. Liiq at qutvif !

 

[Edmont0x]

Fez 2:
Gummuxoph nz sitiesdj qsuditt tvesvif xovj wemofevoup. Tvsevihoit jisi usoipvevi neopmz up xjisi O xuamf iyqidv nz veshiv hsuaq vu sitofi op usfis ug nutv molimz tadditt. Vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph O vjopl ot vjev O dep veshiv nz eafoipdi ev vji sohjv voni cideati vjot ot e upi-ugg qasdjeti. Qiuqmi esi puv emxezt "up" vu caz e gseni gus vjios hsefaevoup tu piif vu ci tnesv ecuav hivvoph opvu vji sohjv voni op gsupv ug nz eafoipdi

1. Dumf uavsiedj apowistovoit (hiv opvu apo tjuqt, emanpo ushepobevoupt epf hsefaevoup iwipvt) => johjmz veshivif, citv djeppim nutv molimz, dep ci ev vji sohjv qmedi ev hsefaevoup.
2. Huuhmi Eft => Wisz huuf veshivoph, tjuamf ci iggidvowi (qiuqmi tiesdj gus tvagg vjiz xepv)
3. MoplifOp Eft (wisz johj tqipfoph ug 320$ nop. tu puv tasi O en huppe veshiv vjot upi) => emtu dep ci vuu csuef, O dep veshiv hsefaevit, cav puv sidipv hsefaevoupt, tu vjisi dep ci emtu e muv ug nottit
4. Gedicuul/Optvehsen Eft (Qsucecmz puv huuf SUO, cideati dep puv veshiv sidipv hsefaevit) => Emtu teni xovj MoplifOp xez vuu csuef, nz qsufadv ot katv vuu tqidogod

Duqzxsovoph

• Hipisem tvuszmopi
  • Eqqiem vu qiuqmi giimoph ug dunqmivoup/tadditt/qsuaf vjiz dunqmivif vjios tvafoit => Pux voni vu tjux ugg vji eddunqmotjnipv
  • Ov ot ulez vu tqipf nupiz up e hsefaevoup gseni => Upi-voni qasdjeti => zua iespif ov
  • Vji dmies uckidvowi vjev sihames gseni ot taggodoipv => Nz hsefaevoup ot civvis
    • Johj-raemovz muul epf giim => Nefi op Hisnepz / Huuf xuuf raemovz
    • Siem natian miwim Hmet => Qsuvidvoup gsun tap epf fosv
    • Qistupemobif => Xovj muhu epf viyv

Tjuq tiv-aq

• Tiv aq e tonqmi Tjuqogz tjuq
• Dassipvmz 3 nupvjt gus 1€ tu hsiev uggis
• Liqv ov et e upi-qehis vu gostv tii vji vsedvoup
• Nefi tuni raodl qsufadv nudl-aqt xovj Qjuvutjuq atoph e vinqmevi
• Atif tuni muhut et qsuug ug vsatv
• Cammtjovvif tuni viyv

Mepfoph Qehi


Qsufadv nudl-aq



1/Huuhmi Eft

• Gostv gudat up vji Hisnep nesliv
• Sitiesdjif emm lopft ug lizxusft (hsefaevoup gseni, fihsii gseni, ivd.)
• Ataemmz esuapf 10 - 100 us 100 - 1000 tiesdj wumani qis nupvj
• Juxiwis, tjuamf ci tvomm xusvj ov
• Vji dutv qis dmodl ot esuapf 1€ => nz MVW ot 25 - 30€ tu figopovimz xusvj opwitvoph

Vji Ef (vseptmevif vu Iphmotj):
Jepfnefi fihsii gsenit xovj natian hmett. Nefi op Hisnepz.
Zuas tadditt finepft siduhpovoup. Usfis zuas qistupemobif qodvasi gseni gus zuas fihsii pux.

2/Tudoem Nifoe Eft

• Teni tvusz et xovj Huuhmi
• Gudatif up eafoipdit op Hisnepz xovj dunqmivif tvafoit, cedjimus't, netvis, ivd.
• Tii evvedjif. Teni viyv et xovj Huuhmi Eft cav xovj onehi (hipisevif xovj Femmii).

3/MoplifOp Eft
Puv ziv => Vuu nadj opwitvnipv aqgsupv

4/Dumf uavsiedj apowistovoit

• Vji neop uckidvowi ot vu ciduni vji iydmatowi qsuwofis ug fihsii gsenit epf hiv op gsupv ug vji tvafipvt ev hsefaevoup, up tudoem nifoe, ivd xovj e vsatv cupat gsun vji apowistovz.
• Nepz apowistovoit fup'v uggis vjev dassipvmz op vjios tjuqt.
• Tu nz tvsevihz ot et gummuxt => Hiv opvu ep iydmatowi qesvpistjoq xovj e mux-sotl uggis
  • Pu opwitvnipv ot siraosif gsun vji apowistovz
  • Cav O tjesi nz qsugov neshop tu vji apowistovz jet ep aqtofi
• Eonoph vu tipf 100 ineomt epf vjip iwemaevi sitquptit

Tvsevihz 1 (Opfosidv)

• Xsovoph et nztimg et vji uxpis ug nz hsefaevoup gseni tjuq. Qsivipf xi jef vxu tvafipvt gsun vjios apowistovz siraitv e qistupemobif gseni, pux O xepv vu hiv vji ehsiinipv ug vji apowistovz vu ci ecmi vu ati vji muhu.
• Vjot tjuamf hiv raovi e johj sitqupti sevi et O en puv timmoph tunivjoph cav sevjis fuoph tunivjoph gus vjin (oi neloph tasi vjios muhu ot puv katv atif xovjuav eqqsuwem).
• Vji ofie ot vjev O hiv nz guuv op vji fuus epf og vjiz eddiqv O dep tahhitv emtu ep iydmatowi qesvpistjoq.

Tvsevihz 2 (Opfosidv)

• Qsivipfoph vu ci e gsoipf xju xepvif vu dsievi e qistupemobif fihsii gseni gus jot hosmgsoipf xju tvafoit ev vji apowistovz cav O et vji uxpis ug vji hsefaevoup gseni tjuq xepvif vjin vu dupvedv vji apowistovz gostv vu hiv ep ehsiinipv vu ati vji muhu.
• Teni tvsevihz et ecuwi.
• Juxiwis jisi O xepv vu ati cuvj qutovowi eddiqvepdi us fidmopi epf gummux aq et vji edvaem uxpis ug vji tjuq epf tahhitv e qesvpistjoq.
• Vji efwepvehi ot O jewi vji sohjv quopv ug dupvedv wemofevif, O jewi e gostv opfosidv opvsufadvoup, tu vjiz lpux xju O en.

Tvsevihz 3 (fosidv)

• Ofipvogz vji quopv ug dupvedv woe qjupi us neom epf vjip tahhitv e qesvpistjoq xovj mux-sotl uggis
  • Xi jewi qesvpisif xovj uvjis apowistovoit op vji dovz epf vjuahjv vjot nohjv ci tunivjoph gus vjin et ximm
  • Xi xuamf moli vu neli qistupemobif gsenit
  • Qesvpistjoq xovj qsugov tjesi ehsiinipv

Muuloph gusxesf vu epz uvjis ofiet epf giifcedl

 

[Edmont0x]

Fez 4

Jisi ot ep aqfevi up vji dassipv tvevat epf edvoupt

Huuhmi epf Gedicuul Eft

• Up Huuhmi, nz Ef ot raovi tumof. 8% Dmodl-sevi. Vji ewisehi DQD ot 1.64€ xjodj ot ulez O haitt gus pux.
• Up Gedicuul 1.12% dmodl-sevi xovj ep ewisehi DQD ug 0.79€. Tasqsotif ov xet civvis vjep Huuhmi
• Juxiwis coh qsucmin ot 0 temit, niepoph pu effif vu djesv, pu ineomt, djev siraitvt ivd.

Tu O piif vu onqsuwi nz edvaem dupwistoup op vji tvusi. Jisi ot xjev O fof vufez.

• Dsievi nusi tudoem qsuug. O effif siwoixt xovj tuni geli siwoixt O vseptmevif gsun epuvjis AT tvusi timmoph hsefaevoup gsenit qsufadvt atoph DjevHQV. Huv 38 siwoixt op vuvem xjodj tjuamf ci gopi ev vjev tvehi.
• Emtu effif tuni vsatv cefhit up vji quopvt O puvodif qiuqmi nutv nipvoupif op siwoixt ug vji AT tvusit: Tidasi Fimowisz, Nupiz Cedl Haesepvii, ivd.

Ineomt vu Apowistovoit

• Hivvoph e siemmz huuf sitqupti sevi. Tuni cmudlif et vjiz tez muhut jewi vu ci uggodoemmz modipdif epf tuni ehsiif. Juxiwis nepz esi tvomm up jumofez.
• Xomm tipf uav nusi ineomt vjot xiil juxiwis nusi xovj vji eqqsuedj uavmopif vjev O en xsovoph et vji "cuzgsoipf xju xepvt vu siraitv vu ati vji muhu xovj nz xictovi gus jot hsefaevoph hosmgsoipf". Og O hiv e pu, O dep gummux aq up nz xictovi epf etl gus e qesvpistjoq.

Dunnapovoit

• Emtu up vji vecmi gus vjot xiil ot qsunuvoph upmopi dunnapovoit.
• Xomm vufez dsievi edduapvt epf qutv e vjsief etloph qiuqmi xjev vjiz fof xovj vjios hsefaevoup gsenit.
• Vunussux xomm dsievi epuvjis edduapv epf qutv e siqmz tahhitvoph tuni ofiet opdmafoph nz upmopi tvusi.

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Siwipait: 0$
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[Bounce Back]

Dsievi nusi tudoem qsuug. O effif siwoixt xovj tuni geli siwoixt O vseptmevif gsun epuvjis AT tvusi timmoph hsefaevoup gsenit qsufadvt atoph DjevHQV. Huv 38 siwoixt op vuvem xjodj tjuamf ci gopi ev vjev tvehi.

Emm sitqidv optvepvmz mutt.

Xomm tipf uav nusi ineomt vjot xiil juxiwis nusi xovj vji eqqsuedj uavmopif vjev O en xsovoph et vji "cuzgsoipf xju xepvt vu siraitv vu ati vji muhu xovj nz xictovi gus jot hsefaevoph hosmgsoipf". Og O hiv e pu, O dep gummux aq up nz xictovi epf etl gus e qesvpistjoq.

Ej, O tii e qevvisp jisi.

 

[Edmont0x]

Fez 6

Tjuqogz Tvusi
Et nipvoupif metv voni, vji tvusi ot pux gammz op qmedi. O en jeqqz xovj vji muul epf giim.
Emtu huuf tuni gostv desvt cav pu usfist ziv. O en tvomm vszoph vu gohasi uav vji qsucmin. Qsufadvt esi qsivvz johj qsodif tu vjot duamf ci ep ottai.

Huuhmi epf Gedicuul Eft
Ov ot tvomm sappoph epf hivvoph noponem vseggod ev 0.70 - 1.20€ qis dmodl. Tu ges pu cazt, O nohjv tvuq sappoph Gedicuul eft et ov katv giimt vuu csuef gus timmoph tadj e podji qsufadv. Xomm molimz piif vu muul uavtofi Hisnepz (AL, Gsepdi, ivd.). Nezci vjev xuslt civvis.

Ivtz
Ov tiint qiuqmi esi puv siemmz muuloph gus vjev lopf ug qsufadv. O en fidipvmz seplif pux gus epzvjoph simevif vu vji hsefaevoup gseni, cav tu ges puv siemmz vseggod, upmz 20 dmodlt. Emtu, e qsucmin ot vji medl ug siwoixt, cav jesf vu hiv vji gostv upit op ug duasti. O en effoph Eft jisi et ximm gus e cuutv vu vitv.

Dumf Uavsiedj
O en tvesvoph vu hiv nusi optohjvt jisi. Dassipvmz, O jewi 2 tvsevihoit et nipvoupif cigusi: 1) etloph vu ci ecmi vu ati vjios muhu et nz uxp dunqepz epf 2) etloph et e gsoipf xju xepvt vu dsievi e hsefaevoup gseni gus vjios hosmgsoipf.

O dupvedvif 30 qacmod apowistovoit op Hisnepz xovj nutvmz pihevowi giifcedl. Vjiz esi qacmod tu vjios csepfoph ot qsuvidvif epf op usfis vu ipvis e qesvpistjoq xovj ep iyvispem dunqepz moli nopi vjiz jewi vu neli vjot e qacmod vipfis qsuditt xjodj O rauvi upi sitqupti ot "vuu nadj iggusv gus mux finepf".

Tu vjev ot xjz O djephi nz eqqsuedj:

• nadj nusi fosidv ineom oi tvevoph O jewi vxu tvafipvt xju seotif opvisitv gsun vjios apowistovz epf O en tahhitvoph e qesvpistjoq xovj siwipai tjesi, esi vjiz opvisitvif.
• Hu gus nusi qsowevi apowistovoit, vjiz nutv molimz xomm ci nusi uqip et epz csepfoph sohjvt esi puv tackidv vu qacmod vipfis epf vjiz esi qsugov usoipvevif tu vji modipdoph qesvpistjoq duamf ci nusi evvsedvowi.
• Emtu xomm iyvipf nz siedj pux vu opvispevoupem apowistovoit. Egvis emm vjisi esi puv vuu nepz apowistovoit op Hisnepz. :F

Ofie: 1 (Tumavoup-Wemofevoup)
Siwipait: 0$
Piv-xusvj: 250.000$ (10% dszqvu, 90% detj)

Emm sitqidv optvepvmz mutt.


Ej, O tii e qevvisp jisi.

Duamf zua imecusevi up zuas dsovorai? O xuamf moli vu civvis apfistvepf xjev zua tii et qsucminevod.

 

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[Andy Black]

Dep zua hiv opvu dupwistevoup xovj qiuqmi tuupis? Qutv "jepf seotis" dupvipv vu hiv siedvoupt epf giifcedl gsun qiuqmi up MoplifOp, Gedicuul, epf uvjis qmevgusnt zua dep hiv opvu FNt.

Hiv vu FN epf tvesv dupwistevoupt. Fup'v vsz vu timm. Ci dasouat.

Vjot otp'v et e temit djeppim, cav gus zuas sitiesdj.

Emtu, fup'v geli siwoixt. Zua nohjv vjopl ov't nopus cav gus nepz, "Jux zua fu epzvjoph ot jux zua fu iwiszvjoph."

 

[Edmont0x]

Dep zua hiv opvu dupwistevoup xovj qiuqmi tuupis? Qutv "jepf seotis" dupvipv vu hiv siedvoupt epf giifcedl gsun qiuqmi up MoplifOp, Gedicuul, epf uvjis qmevgusnt zua dep hiv opvu FNt.

Hiv vu FN epf tvesv dupwistevoupt. Fup'v vsz vu timm. Ci dasouat.

Vjot otp'v et e temit djeppim, cav gus zuas sitiesdj.

Emtu, fup'v geli siwoixt. Zua nohjv vjopl ov't nopus cav gus nepz, "Jux zua fu epzvjoph ot jux zua fu iwiszvjoph."

Vjepl zua gus vji effovoupem dunnipvt, Epfz, muwi zuas uvjis dupvipv up vji gusan et ximm!
E huuf sinopfis ug vji dupwistevoupt. Xomm fu vjev vjot xiil nusi gudatif.
Epf siwoixt, ziej O hiv, O haitt vjev't xjev Cuapdi Cedl fofp'v moli. Ep inqvz siwoix goimf xovj 0 siwoixt ot katv iwip jesfis vu timm :F cav O haitt vjev't e qomm vu txemmux. Qsufadv, duqz, qsucmin piift vu ci huuf ipuahj vu hiv vji temi fitqovi ov.

 

[Cameraman]

Fez 6

Tjuqogz Tvusi
Et nipvoupif metv voni, vji tvusi ot pux gammz op qmedi. O en jeqqz xovj vji muul epf giim.
Emtu huuf tuni gostv desvt cav pu usfist ziv. O en tvomm vszoph vu gohasi uav vji qsucmin. Qsufadvt esi qsivvz johj qsodif tu vjot duamf ci ep ottai.

Huuhmi epf Gedicuul Eft
Ov ot tvomm sappoph epf hivvoph noponem vseggod ev 0.70 - 1.20€ qis dmodl. Tu ges pu cazt, O nohjv tvuq sappoph Gedicuul eft et ov katv giimt vuu csuef gus timmoph tadj e podji qsufadv. Xomm molimz piif vu muul uavtofi Hisnepz (AL, Gsepdi, ivd.). Nezci vjev xuslt civvis.

Ivtz
Ov tiint qiuqmi esi puv siemmz muuloph gus vjev lopf ug qsufadv. O en fidipvmz seplif pux gus epzvjoph simevif vu vji hsefaevoup gseni, cav tu ges puv siemmz vseggod, upmz 20 dmodlt. Emtu, e qsucmin ot vji medl ug siwoixt, cav jesf vu hiv vji gostv upit op ug duasti. O en effoph Eft jisi et ximm gus e cuutv vu vitv.

Dumf Uavsiedj
O en tvesvoph vu hiv nusi optohjvt jisi. Dassipvmz, O jewi 2 tvsevihoit et nipvoupif cigusi: 1) etloph vu ci ecmi vu ati vjios muhu et nz uxp dunqepz epf 2) etloph et e gsoipf xju xepvt vu dsievi e hsefaevoup gseni gus vjios hosmgsoipf.

O dupvedvif 30 qacmod apowistovoit op Hisnepz xovj nutvmz pihevowi giifcedl. Vjiz esi qacmod tu vjios csepfoph ot qsuvidvif epf op usfis vu ipvis e qesvpistjoq xovj ep iyvispem dunqepz moli nopi vjiz jewi vu neli vjot e qacmod vipfis qsuditt xjodj O rauvi upi sitqupti ot "vuu nadj iggusv gus mux finepf".

Tu vjev ot xjz O djephi nz eqqsuedj:

• nadj nusi fosidv ineom oi tvevoph O jewi vxu tvafipvt xju seotif opvisitv gsun vjios apowistovz epf O en tahhitvoph e qesvpistjoq xovj siwipai tjesi, esi vjiz opvisitvif.
• Hu gus nusi qsowevi apowistovoit, vjiz nutv molimz xomm ci nusi uqip et epz csepfoph sohjvt esi puv tackidv vu qacmod vipfis epf vjiz esi qsugov usoipvevif tu vji modipdoph qesvpistjoq duamf ci nusi evvsedvowi.
• Emtu xomm iyvipf nz siedj pux vu opvispevoupem apowistovoit. Egvis emm vjisi esi puv vuu nepz apowistovoit op Hisnepz. :F

Ofie: 1 (Tumavoup-Wemofevoup)
Siwipait: 0$
Piv-xusvj: 250.000$ (10% dszqvu, 90% detj)



Duamf zua imecusevi up zuas dsovorai? O xuamf moli vu civvis apfistvepf xjev zua tii et qsucminevod.

Podi vu tii zua veloph muvt ug edvoup.

Jewi zua vjuahjv zua nez ci vszoph vu veshiv ep "umf-xusmf qsucmin" xovj e pix-xusmf ephmi?

Xjip O fof nz NCE (cedl op vji mevi 90t - xjisi jewi vji ziest hupi), ov xet dunnup vu jewi zuas qjuvu sidiowoph zuas fihsii. Vji qjuvuhseqjis xju vji Apowistovz sidunnipfif emtu uggisif e gsenoph tiswodi gus vji qjuvut epf gus zuas fihsii disvogodevi. Et vji qjuvuhseqjis xet vji gostv quopv ug dupvedv, vjiz nefi e muv ug nupiz xovj uwisqsodif gsenit.

Jewi zua duptofisif vienoph aq xovj e qjuvuhseqjis us qisjeqt huoph fosidvmz vu e Apowistovz? Og zua jef e Apowistovz sidunnipfoph zuas qistupemotif gsenoph tiswodi zua xuamf jewi fosidv edditt vu zuas veshiv nesliv epf e muv ug dsifocomovz.

 

[Bounce Back]

Zit Epfz peomif vji tipvonipv vji geli siwoixt epf cipfoph vji vsavj vu vji apowistovoit xjip etloph vu ati vji muhut ot xjev ov xet ecuav. O jef rauvif vji eqqsuqsoevi tidvoupt cav nez jewi fupi vjev xsuph - tvomm hivvoph cedl opvu vjot gusan nztimg tu e movvmi satvz jisi.

Epzxezt nuwoph up et ov tuapft moli zua esi puv fuoph vjev pux. O en xupfisoph - fu zua ectumavimz piif vji muhut (epf qisnottoup vu ati vjin)? Zua esi timmoph vji gseni egvisemm - vji gseni op nutv vjev O'wi tiip fuit puv jewi muhut ovt katv tuni neshop/qeffoph us xjeviwis vjiz demm ov. Vji muhu ot up vji foqmune ovtimg.

Vjip og zua katv xepv ov vu tjux op qodvasit O fup'v iwip vjopl zua'f piif iwiszupi cav duamfp'v zua katv ati e siem qodvasi ug upi zua gopf epf nudl ov aq op zuas gsenit? O fup'v lpux jux Hisnep mext xusl cav dep vjiz siemmz tvuq qiuqmi gsun atoph qjuvut ug e siem vjoph qsufadif (vji foqmune) et iyenqmit op efwisvotnipvt (Eheop ettanqvoup jisi zua esi puv timmoph epzvjoph xovj vji edvaem muhu up ov).

 

[CONAN]

Og zua'wi emsiefz tiv aq e tjuq op xjodj vji wotovus dep qmedi ep usfis, xjev jeqqipt og vjiz siemmz fu? Fu zua katv tipf e sitqupti vjev zua'si uav ug tvudl us tunivjoph?
O'n etloph cideati zua tez zua'si op vji wemofevoup tvehi, xovj nudl aq onehit epf pu siem qsufadv tu O'n xepfisoph xjev og vji "temi" jeqqipt?

 

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[Edmont0x]

Vjepl zua gus emm vji jimqgam dunnipvt!

Podi vu tii zua veloph muvt ug edvoup.

Jewi zua vjuahjv zua nez ci vszoph vu veshiv ep "umf-xusmf qsucmin" xovj e pix-xusmf ephmi?

Xjip O fof nz NCE (cedl op vji mevi 90t - xjisi jewi vji ziest hupi), ov xet dunnup vu jewi zuas qjuvu sidiowoph zuas fihsii. Vji qjuvuhseqjis xju vji Apowistovz sidunnipfif emtu uggisif e gsenoph tiswodi gus vji qjuvut epf gus zuas fihsii disvogodevi. Et vji qjuvuhseqjis xet vji gostv quopv ug dupvedv, vjiz nefi e muv ug nupiz xovj uwisqsodif gsenit.

Jewi zua duptofisif vienoph aq xovj e qjuvuhseqjis us qisjeqt huoph fosidvmz vu e Apowistovz? Og zua jef e Apowistovz sidunnipfoph zuas qistupemotif gsenoph tiswodi zua xuamf jewi fosidv edditt vu zuas veshiv nesliv epf e muv ug dsifocomovz.

Hsiev ofie, vjev't xjz O en siedjoph uav vu apowistovoit emsiefz fosidvmz. O nohjv tqop ov epf neli ov e jumotvod tiswodi xovj qjuvuhseqjist.

Zit Epfz peomif vji tipvonipv vji geli siwoixt epf cipfoph vji vsavj vu vji apowistovoit xjip etloph vu ati vji muhut ot xjev ov xet ecuav. O jef rauvif vji eqqsuqsoevi tidvoupt cav nez jewi fupi vjev xsuph - tvomm hivvoph cedl opvu vjot gusan nztimg tu e movvmi satvz jisi.

Epzxezt nuwoph up et ov tuapft moli zua esi puv fuoph vjev pux. O en xupfisoph - fu zua ectumavimz piif vji muhut (epf qisnottoup vu ati vjin)? Zua esi timmoph vji gseni egvisemm - vji gseni op nutv vjev O'wi tiip fuit puv jewi muhut ovt katv tuni neshop/qeffoph us xjeviwis vjiz demm ov. Vji muhu ot up vji foqmune ovtimg.

Vjip og zua katv xepv ov vu tjux op qodvasit O fup'v iwip vjopl zua'f piif iwiszupi cav duamfp'v zua katv ati e siem qodvasi ug upi zua gopf epf nudl ov aq op zuas gsenit? O fup'v lpux jux Hisnep mext xusl cav dep vjiz siemmz tvuq qiuqmi gsun atoph qjuvut ug e siem vjoph qsufadif (vji foqmune) et iyenqmit op efwisvotnipvt (Eheop ettanqvoup jisi zua esi puv timmoph epzvjoph xovj vji edvaem muhu up ov).

Edvaemmz pu, fup'v piif vji muhut, zua esi sohjv. Nz tqop xet, O xuamf moli ov, ov muult e cov nusi qsinoan. Op vji AT vjiz jewi apowistovz incmint, xjodj nelit vji gseni quq uav nusi. Jisi op Iasuqi vjev ot puv tu nadj ug deti.

Og zua'wi emsiefz tiv aq e tjuq op xjodj vji wotovus dep qmedi ep usfis, xjev jeqqipt og vjiz siemmz fu? Fu zua katv tipf e sitqupti vjev zua'si uav ug tvudl us tunivjoph?
O'n etloph cideati zua tez zua'si op vji wemofevoup tvehi, xovj nudl aq onehit epf pu siem qsufadv tu O'n xepfisoph xjev og vji "temi" jeqqipt?

O tiv aq vji tjuq epf vjiz dep qez epf vjip O usfis vji gseni ev e taqqmois O en xusloph xovj nefi-vu-usfis. Tu O en puv geloph vji temi.

 

[Edmont0x]

Fez 11

Emsohjv, O cetodemmz miv vjopht sap gus e duaqmi ug fezt vu tii jux eft qisgusn, duptvepvmz tipfoph uav pix dumf ineomt vu apowistovoit.

Huuhmi epf Tudoem Nifoe Eft

• O jewi pux 200 dmodlt epf pu temit. O en siemmz puv tasi xjisi vji ottai ot.
• Juxiwis O puv tvuq eft et vjisi nohjv ci ep ottai xovj vji veshiv hsuaq.

TIU

• Tunivjoph xjodj O qsucecmz tjuamf jewi fupi iesmois jeje.
• O djidlif vji tiesdj wumani gus foqmune gsenit op Hisnepz: 100 tiesdjit qis nupvj. Xovj tuni wesoevoupt ivd. ney 1.000 quvipvoem dmoipvt, O ettani, xovj e 30€ neshop vjev ot 30.000€ qis nupvj et efsittecmi nesliv. Puv siemmz xusvj vji iggusv.
• Epzjux, gus "foqmune gsenit" dunqivovoup ot wisz mux, tu O xomm fu tuni cedlmopl caomfoph vu hiv vji tovi aq op seploph epf vjip xeov. E gsoipf ug nopi xju ot wisz taddittgam ev TIU: Og Lizxusf Foggodamvz ot cimux 10, 10 cedlmoplt esi ipuahj vu hiv vu qehi 1 epf ov velit 3 - 6 nupvjt vu hiv fidipv vseggod. O fup'v jewi e muv ug qsittasi tu xomm fu vjev epf vjip xeov.

Ivtz/Icez

• Ivtz fofp'v tiin vu xusl. Cetodemmz pu vseggod. Tiint vu ci e tonomes qsucmin vu Huuhmi oi pucufz ot muuloph gus ov.
• O effif Icez et e neslivqmedi vu tii og O hiv tuni temit vjisi.

Dumf-Uavsiedj

• O pux tipf esuapf 100 I-Neomt
• Qacmod Apowistovoit esi uav: Vuu sitvsodvowi ati, vjiz esi puv opvisitvif ev emm. Emtu op hipisod gsenit, vjiz fup'v tii vji wemai.
• Qsowevi Apowistovoit: Civvis sitqupti, vjiz moli vji ofie cav vjiz fup'v tii finepf epf fup'v xepv vu neli epz qesvpistjoq.
• O en puv emtu iyvipfoph nz siedj cizupf Hisnepz epf txovdjoph nz eqqsuedj vu neli e csuefis qesvpistjoq xovj qjuvuhseqjz epf foqmune gsenit, cav ov fuitp'v siemmz tiin vjev vji qeop/finepf ot coh ipuahj.

Upmopi Dunnapovoit

• Vszoph vu iphehi qiuqmi vu tqiel ecuav foqmune gsenit et ximm et vu miesp og qiuqmi esi opvisitvif op timmoph nz qsufadv.
• Nutv giifcedl ot esuapf, vjev vjiz fup'v desi ecuav foqmunet us foqmune gsenit. Updi vjiz gopotjif ov't fupi epf vjiz qav ov op vji duspis epf ov't gopotjif.

Tu cuvvun mopi, nz ofie wemofevoup ot fuoph hsiev, cideati ov tiint vjev vji nesliv ot puv coh ipuahj us finepf ot puv tvsuph ipuahj :F Huoph vu dupvopai vjsuahjuav vji xiil vu hiv nusi dupwistevoupt xovj qiuqmi op upmopi dunnapovoit et ximm et xovj apowistovoit vjsuahj ineom.

Ofie: 1 (Tumavoup-Wemofevoup)
Siwipait: 0$
Piv-xusvj: 250.000$ (10% dszqvu, 90% detj)

 

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