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98% of people who earn their real estate license don't renew it for a second round (which is anywhere from 1 - 4 years later). There is a reason for this. If you think that beginning in real estate is "steady" or will be "easier" than other ventures you've tried, you may just want to save your money & put it towards your online businesses.

Unfortunately, most real estate agents think that selling a home is showing people a few houses & then sitting back & collecting their paycheck at closing. Reality TV shows further this stereotype. The things you don't see on television:

Getting up before the sun comes up to drive 45 minutes to beat rush hour traffic to cut cables from your listing's neighbors house who is stealing their utilities, taking photos of said cleared lines & submitting them to the bank so the underwriter will approve the loan application & fund for closing.

Re-keying a clients house out of your own pocket because an appraiser lost the key while doing an appraisal.

Hunting down the snowbird president of an HOA in Iowa to sign some paperwork that the property management company refuses to provide so that your client may actually get the loan completed & close on their first home. Did I mention the Loan Officer sat on this for two weeks doing nothing while withholding pertinent updates? And that I had to draft a legal document myself to cover me, the HOA guy & my buyer because it was a government loan?


What? You didn't see any of that on TV? Because it's not glamorous. It sucks. But it's part of the job & putting other people first. And if you're not a Put-Others-Before-Yourself person, don't go into this industry. If you can't hang when the situation goes to shit but you still have to make things happen even though there's a good chance you're not going to receive a paycheck, don't do it. If you are influenced or swayed by money in your pocket vs. your client's best interest, don't you dare do it.

If you can honestly say "yes" to all of this & then still be okay with the prospect of doing everything right & well by your clients & sometimes still not receiving a paycheck because the buyer got laid off 24 hours before closing & the bank revoked the loan, then yes, I think real estate could be rewarding for you. It's a nice way to earn a living, but starting out is anything but smooth & usually does not mean regular income. The "nice living" comes after building up your client's relationships & trust. That comes from taking care of people well. And that comes from knowing your shit & going the extra mile. All that takes time. Only you can decide if this is the right path for you. I can only try & give you a proper perspective on the reality of the job.
 

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Sounds like you think real estate is the "next shiny object" you can try. Success doesn't work like that. Calling @Red.
 
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For a lot of the reasons you listed above, is why I'm thinking about getting into commercial real estate

Did the guys you spoke with tell you that sometimes it can take years to get paid on commercial deals? Again, I'm just trying to make sure you have proper expectations here. The renewal rate failure for commercial agents is even higher.

If you truly want to make a go at commercial RE, I would find the biggest producer in your area & offer to be his gopher (ie: bitch) for free. All you ask for is to go with him, listen to his conversations & have him explain/teach you. This is a highly litigious industry & you will get your a$$ handed to you if you don't know what you're doing. This isn't something to dabble in part time or to use as a "backup" plan for income. This is not the industry for Plan B income generation. It's simply too much to know to do proficiently & starting out is always the hardest due to lag time in paychecks (commercial or residential). And if you think there's "less emotion" in commercial... well... you've never done commercial. Emotions come along with humans. Period. Knowing how to set expectations & preemptively side-step landmines is the best way to deal with "emotions" wherever they may pop up. Again, I'm not trying to piss in your cheerios, but I do wish to put things in proper perspective for you.
 
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Get a job in a digital agency running PPC campaigns for clients.

EDIT: Direct response campaigns rather than "branding".

This. I still work in a ppc agency. This background is one of the reasons why I took my business from 0 to 10k/month in a few weeks, and will take it to 100k/month until the end of the year. (The other is general web dev and ad experience, continous self directed learning and curiosity)
 

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Where exactly?? And I only have limited experience with PPC, could I still get hired?

Learn it yourself, then apply to some. Do the Google certification, can be done in a weekend if you're at least halfly intelligent. Everywhere you look there are agencies hiring account managers, because there is a real shortage of quality people.

Having performance marketing skills is GOLD.
 

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Would you agree that one of the best "slowlane jobs" to get into would be becoming a real estate agent and selling homes?

I guess it CAN be Fastlane if you become super successful, however you're STILL trading your time for money.

I'm getting my real estate license right now as something I can fall back on. I'm hoping to eventually run my own successful business online, but I've been trying to do that for a few years now and so far no such luck. So I figured selling real estate is at least somewhat of a stable job and it's not sidewalk!

What do you guys think?

Re read the book
 

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If you want to get into real estate, I'd recommend one of the construction trades or property management to start with.
 
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I'll put a note in my calendar to check in with you in a year....

In reviewing my upcoming calendar for travels, I came across my own note to check in on you, @dreamer. Did you get your license? Are you selling one $1M+ home a year?
 
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While I'm not a real estate agent... I personally think that this would be a shitty a$$ job mainly because in order to get paid, you have to rely on a whole bunch of moving parts coming together. And usually the people running the other moving parts all suck at their job. I would personally get a job where I can control more of the outcome based on my own performance because I know that I know my shit. The other guy... not so much.
 

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Get a job in a digital agency running PPC campaigns for clients.

EDIT: Direct response campaigns rather than "branding".
 
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So what if that IS the reason I wanted to become a real estate, because it's easy to get into, I'm lost & aimless career wise, and decided to try this out.

What if I find the right agency to mentor me and train me... where I live the average home price is a million dollars. I would only need to sell one house a year to make WAY more money than I do now. Although I'd like to sell more, I'd be fine with one a year.

It's because of your words in bold. If I'm going to sell my million dollar home, I ain't listing it with someone who is happy selling one house a year. Sure you can make money as a real estate agent. But going into it as if it's a temp job, or part time is not going to cut it. If you really wanted to get into this, just tell us thanks for all the warnings and showing me what to expect, sounds good to me, I am going to start tomorrow.

If our posts of hard work, potential low money and headaches detracts you, then you were probably doing it because of the thought of some easy money.
 

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^^^ and offer to manage someones campaigns for a low fee of $200 per month. They pay the ad fee, you manage it. Get to learn with their ad spend.
 
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I'm going into software development because it is decent slowlane path and also has great potential to double as a fastlane path once I'm able to start writing my own side projects.

My opinion, so don't get offended. Not really a good plan. Sw/hw dev/design jobs are moving to Asia quicker than Americans and Europeans realize due to costs and speed. I can assure you that even softwares that fall under ITAR and/or MIL specs have good portions coded in Asia. Tech field is very uncertain at the moment.
 
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While I'm not a real estate agent... I personally think that this would be a shitty a$$ job mainly because in order to get paid, you have to rely on a whole bunch of moving parts coming together. And usually the people running the other moving parts all suck at their job. I would personally get a job where I can control more of the outcome based on my own performance because I know that I know my shit. The other guy... not so much.

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I say go into analytics and big data. There is a lot of job growth in that area, and the skills can definitely be applicable once your business gets out of the startup phase and is more mid-sized. Really knowing numbers, data, how to set things up optimally, and how to find insights can really give you an edge.
 

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I'll put a note in my calendar to check in with you in a year. Good luck out there, as real estate can be very rewarding, even if it is a "real" job. :)
 
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My opinion, so don't get offended. Not really a good plan. Sw/hw dev/design jobs are moving to Asia quicker than Americans and Europeans realize due to costs and speed. I can assure you that even softwares that fall under ITAR and/or MIL specs have good portions coded in Asia. Tech field is very uncertain at the moment.
Yeah, this has been my primary concern. I'm also learining japanese, which carries some slowlane opportunities overseas. However, uncertainty over deciding on a skill to learn in school has been plaguing my mind since I decided to go back. I'm too old to choose the wrong major/career.

I'm really banking on the versatility of being highly proficient at several coding platforms to aid me in fastlane projects down the road while using the slowlane to fund them. Hopefully, this won't turn out to be a huge mistake.
 
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+$1,000 per day, 4 weeks on 4 weeks off.

6 months of vacation per year and retire a multi-millionaire. Not a bad gig
 

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Would you agree that one of the best "slowlane jobs" to get into would be becoming a real estate agent and selling homes?

I guess it CAN be Fastlane if you become super successful, however you're STILL trading your time for money.

I'm getting my real estate license right now as something I can fall back on. I'm hoping to eventually run my own successful business online, but I've been trying to do that for a few years now and so far no such luck. So I figured selling real estate is at least somewhat of a stable job and it's not sidewalk!

What do you guys think?
 
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There are generally two types of real estate agents. The first type are professional sharks that are at the top of their game and are into real estate because it is in and of itself a fast lane for the top 1% of agents. Red falls into that category.

The second type or people get their real estate license because it seems relatively easy to obtain and they don't know what else to do with their life at that moment in time. There is almost 0 barrier to entry to becoming a real estate agent. It's kind of like when you're lost and aimless and looking for a career direction… Become a real estate agent. You seem to fall into that category.
 

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So what if that IS the reason I wanted to become a real estate, because it's easy to get into, I'm lost & aimless career wise, and decided to try this out.

Are you saying I'm NOT going to be successful just because I kind of casually fell into this as a career?

What if I find the right agency to mentor me and train me... where I live the average home price is a million dollars. I would only need to sell one house a year to make WAY more money than I do now. Although I'd like to sell more, I'd be fine with one a year.

I appreciate your guys' input and all, but it seems like you guys are just trying to bring me down :/ NOTHING in life is easy... I'm well aware of this. I was (actually still am) on the RN waitlist for the nursing program at my local CC. But I don't think I'm cut out to be a nurse for many reasons I don't want to get into. Real estate seems like it would fit my personality better I guess you could say.

I'd love some words of encouragement please... if anyone has them.


Seems to me @Red, @biophase and @MJ DeMarco etc are trying to save you from yourself but you do not yet have the dispensation to understand where they are coming from.

They gave great advice in this thread and I want to thank them here for the insights they have provided.

You are taking their advice too personally.

Perhaps your next job should be something that help teach you how not to take things personally ?

Trust me it is a great skill to have.
 
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I hoped you watched the video @Raoul Duke put up, @dreamer... You will be successful when you want success as bad as you want to breathe.
Stop asking other people what you should do with your life and make the choice and live with the consequences. I'm studying to get my real estate license also. I understand being loss and confused, but what I won't do is ask people on a website to help me feel better about myself; I can masturbate on my own time. Gets the same result. People have their own problems and know nothing about mine. You wouldn't ask for permission/validation to breath, would you?

Get your real estate license or don't... Just make a choice and stop asking everyone if they think you made the right decision. It gets you nowhere... FAST.
 
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So what if that IS the reason I wanted to become a real estate, because it's easy to get into, I'm lost & aimless career wise, and decided to try this out.

I appreciate your guys' input and all, but it seems like you guys are just trying to bring me down :/ NOTHING in life is easy... I'm well aware of this. I was (actually still am) on the RN waitlist for the nursing program at my local CC. But I don't think I'm cut out to be a nurse for many reasons I don't want to get into. Real estate seems like it would fit my personality better I guess you could say.

I'd love some words of encouragement please... if anyone has them.

First Dreamer, we've talked a little bit before you know that I'm only posting a response to make sure you avoid mistakes that I've made and seen other people make. The rest of the posts I've read are doing the same thing, even if it feels personal, it's not.

"because it's easy to get into, I'm lost & aimless" = that means you won't be very successful in any business. If you can't make concrete decisions on something and chose your own direction you'll be an ship at sea AIMLESS with no port of call.

Remember, ships have sailing routes/plans, they have departure points and arrival points. You must first decide your arrival point, then depart.

"it seems like you guys are just trying to bring me down" = That's just because they are disagreeing with you. Trust me I've been there many times before. I would have this amazing idea and I couldn't get anyone to agree with me.

Once I saw that it became a trend of people not agreeing with me I asked and someone pointed out that it was me, not the other people. So my idea wasn't that great or I went about it in the wrong way.

And trust me those people that disagreed with me were not nearly as smart, successful, or helpful as the members on this board. So instead of people just giving you an opinion from an uninitiated perspective they are literally handing you $20's (or $100 in Red's case) wrapped up in their views.


"I was (actually still am) on the RN waitlist for the nursing program at my local CC" = That's what MJ mentioned about the next shiny thing. It's an easy trap to fall into. I used to be that way. Then I learned the difference between Motion and Action.

Motion = doing something that makes you feel productive (keeps you busy)
Action = doing something that produces real results towards your goal.


As always, good luck bud, feel free to message me if you have any more questions. It never hurts to admit that sometimes we don't know.
 

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Get into new construction sales -- you'll want a base pay + commissions when you are just getting into real estate.

Never take a sales job with a base pay!

- You'll make less than you could otherwise, you'll be resentful later, you won't develop your skills to their full potential, and you obviously will never believe in yourself.
 
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Would you agree that one of the best "slowlane jobs" to get into would be becoming a real estate agent and selling homes?

I guess it CAN be Fastlane if you become super successful, however you're STILL trading your time for money.

I'm getting my real estate license right now as something I can fall back on. I'm hoping to eventually run my own successful business online, but I've been trying to do that for a few years now and so far no such luck. So I figured selling real estate is at least somewhat of a stable job and it's not sidewalk!

What do you guys think?

I read a quote somewhere like "real estate is a poor man's equity"

If you want to sell something, sell businesses aka investment banking.
 

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