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Btw if you don't mind, do you have any tips for selling/pitching door-to-door?
Alright, here goes what I've learned so far (I assume you mean residential specifcally):

-Be confident
-Always try to find a convo opener, for example "Hey, nice garden, do you do it yourself?". And if there is no obvious/convenient one, try to find one, for example "Heya, no worries! I'm not from one of those scammy companies!"
-Be funny ^, just be goofy and lighthearted, I think that's how you form great humour over time.
-Be wary of their body language and your own. For example, you don't want to stand "face-to-face" with your body, so to speak. Try to have your feet angled somewhere else so that there is no tension between you guys. Although try both out.
-Adapt to the person: Old granny, speak slow, big dude, speak confidently and to the point, etc.
-Tell them you're known or act as if you should be "Heya, have you seen a great guy in a red shirt walking around here? He's doing awesome deals! Oh wait, that's me!" or "Yeah, so I just did Barbara down the street earlier"
-Show, not tell. Point at dirty spots at windows if there, show your equip perhaps, etc.
-ENGAGE with them! "Heya, just take a quick step outside" or ask them a question. It's best when you get a yes-ish answer: "Heya, which side is the gate on?" "The left (yes-ish)"
-Try to reflect and adapt at where they basically turn off with your pitch and improve on that.
-Once heard "You knock on random peoples' doors and try to sell them your stuff. That's kinda a$$, so why don't you try to make it as pleasant as possible?". Aka, be funny, have a convo, be fun.
That's also basically what @Johnny boy said in one of the top posts of my window cleaning thread "Be an entertainer".
-There is a youtube series by Josh Lester. Awesome videos, go binge them when you have time.
Basically, try to imitate what he's doing and see if it works. He's helped me out so much with these videos! I'm honestly pretty surprised at how similar I sound to him sometimes.
-Looping, there's a video by Josh Lester about it as well.
-Adding value (aka looping kinda), add dust-removal, etc.
-If it's about the price and not value, never go down without a reason. "Sir, I'm really empathetic with your situation, so why don't we call it 149€? (with reason)". Because if you do without it, your service basically just becomes kinda worthless. You could go down to 5 bucks and you'd look like an idiot.
-"Oh, what if they refuse me because of my humour or jokes?"
I've heard by Jeffrey Gitomer once that you only scare away 1 in 10 people with that, or something similar to that. You also have to ask yourself if you want your fun customer or grumpy customer.

And uh, yeah. Just go have fun!
(Also keep in mind that what I wrote here is not to be taken 100%, try it out and figure it out yourself)

EDIT:
-Go read Dale Carnegies How to make friends and influence others. Quite a few unintentional sales techniques in there as well.
-SMILE:), however, once again, experiment with the intensity, etc. I've kinda toned it down recently and feel like it's been doing me better. Experiment!
 
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Alright, here goes what I've learned so far (I assume you mean residential specifcally):

-Be confident
-Always try to find a convo opener, for example "Hey, nice garden, do you do it yourself?". And if there is no obvious/convenient one, try to find one, for example "Heya, no worries! I'm not from one of those scammy companies!"
-Be funny ^, just be goofy and lighthearted, I think that's how you form great humour over time.
-Be wary of their body language and your own. For example, you don't want to stand "face-to-face" with your body, so to speak. Try to have your feet angled somewhere else so that there is no tension between you guys. Although try both out.
-Adapt to the person: Old granny, speak slow, big dude, speak confidently and to the point, etc.
-Tell them you're known or act as if you should be "Heya, have you seen a great guy in a red shirt walking around here? He's doing awesome deals! Oh wait, that's me!" or "Yeah, so I just did Barbara down the street earlier"
-Show, not tell. Point at dirty spots at windows if there, show your equip perhaps, etc.
-ENGAGE with them! "Heya, just take a quick step outside" or ask them a question. It's best when you get a yes-ish answer: "Heya, which side is the gate on?" "The left (yes-ish)"
-Try to reflect and adapt at where they basically turn off with your pitch and improve on that.
-Once heard "You knock on random peoples' doors and try to sell them your stuff. That's kinda a$$, so why don't you try to make it as pleasant as possible?". Aka, be funny, have a convo, be fun.
That's also basically what @Johnny boy said in one of the top posts of my window cleaning thread "Be an entertainer".
-There is a youtube series by Josh Lester. Awesome videos, go binge them when you have time.
Basically, try to imitate what he's doing and see if it works. He's helped me out so much with these videos! I'm honestly pretty surprised at how similar I sound to him sometimes.
-Looping, there's a video by Josh Lester about it as well.
-Adding value (aka looping kinda), add dust-removal, etc.
-If it's about the price and not value, never go down without a reason. "Sir, I'm really empathetic with your situation, so why don't we call it 149€? (with reason)". Because if you do without it, your service basically just becomes kinda worthless. You could go down to 5 bucks and you'd look like an idiot.
-"Oh, what if they refuse me because of my humour or jokes?"
I've heard by Jeffrey Gitomer once that you only scare away 1 in 10 people with that, or something similar to that. You also have to ask yourself if you want your fun customer or grumpy customer.

And uh, yeah. Just go have fun!
(Also keep in mind that what I wrote here is not to be taken 100%, try it out and figure it out yourself)

EDIT:
-Go read Dale Carnegies How to make friends and influence others. Quite a few unintentional sales techniques in there as well.
-SMILE:), however, once again, experiment with the intensity, etc. I've kinda toned it down recently and feel like it's been doing me better. Experiment!
Good opener is to say “hey we are offering (service) and giving massive discounts only to people with (insert something unique about the customer. “Red hats”, “cute dogs”, “people that drive ford explorers”, etc)

Self amusement is the key. Even if the person is a jerk, in a way make it funny to you. Say things that YOU think are funny and not trying to prove yourself 24-7
 
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I've wasted too much time action faking. Time to get to work.

Current plans:
1.Start window washing to get some money rolling in.
2.Once I have some funds, get into E-commerce. (or other opportunities)

Current funds: 200€ + 100€/month from parents
 
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Self amusement is the key. Even if the person is a jerk, in a way make it funny to you. Say things that YOU think are funny and not trying to prove yourself 24-7
This is a funny, self taught technique I learned years ago.

I used to have crippling social anxiety ( I was very introverted as a kid), and combined with RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria- A side effect of ADHD where you are VERY sensitive to rejection or the perception of others possible rejection) it made it damn near impossible to be confident in any approach.

I went through a weird phase where I started really becoming hard on myself and basically fell into what felt like a small psychosis where I cracked and basically had my "F**k This Event", but with everything.

I started treating situations that intimidated me with humor. I no longer card what others would say to me. I only cared about MY actions. The outcomes were out of my control. And hey, if someone wanted to be a complete arsehole to me, then the joke was on them (quite literally) because I took the entire situation very lightly.

This isn't saying you should treat people poorly. You should value potential clients and all people. However, just detach yourself from them and the outcomes since its all out of your control anyways. Be confident. Have some fun.
 

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On the weekend, I went out door-to-door advertising my services. Most places were closed, but in one store, an employee gave me their manager's number to call.

Any tips for selling window cleaning on the phone?
Here's what I learned:

You aren't there in person, so you gotta convey as much as you can.
In other words:
-Speak confidently and clearly!
-Be certain in stuff (aka confident), don't be like "Oh, I'm not exactly sure if I can do this... Can you send me a pic?" And that brings us to the next point...
-Make it EASY for them! Don't say "Oh, please send me a picture of all your windows, and do that and that" but say "I'll take a look around myself later and tell you" or say, "4 bucks for each window" I don't know. These aren't perfect examples, but you get the idea.
-Perhaps try to make yourself look trusted/known. "Oh yeah, I was talking to Miranda and she went out of her way to find me your contact information haha"

What do others think?
I haven't had many calls yet, but I always lacked in confidence and made it seem awkward/hard. And I don't think I ever got anything back from calls yet lol.

Good luck! Just remember that you'll get many other opportunities after that.
 

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Since starting this thread, I have:
  • Read through @Subsonic's and @piano's threads
  • Learned how the window cleaning procedure looks like
  • Made a list of equipment I need

The list of equipment I'm planning to buy:
  • A blue bucket
  • An under 18 inch squeegee
  • A scrubber
  • Microfiber towels
  • Cleaning solution
  • An extension pole
I wonder if I need anything else?

After I have the equipment, I'm going to practice a little by cleaning my house's windows.
I also need to think about how I will get my customers (d2d? fliers? word-of-mouth? google ads? facebook groups?).

There's still plenty of questions in my mind about this, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I'm currently only focusing on what I can act on.
 

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Since Saturday, I sadly haven't gotten much done. However:

1.I got a new client through word-of-mouth. She's also a businesswoman so maybe I could learn something from her.
2.My relative suggested that she'd recommend my services on Facebook because she has a lot of contacts & local groups there and I could get plenty of free exposure.

I'm currently a bit hesitant on whether my cleaning is high quality enough, so I'm going to invest some time into practice and learning.

After some time perhaps I can expand into other local services, like pressure washing, weed pulling, oven cleaning, etc. (Thank you @fridge for the recommendation)

My end goal of offering local services is to get money for scalable businesses. I intend to quickly test ideas, pick the winners and discard the failures, and then rapidly scale.
I'm going to respectfully suggest that you don't expand your services if you want to earn good money.

I know someone who pulls good money by being expert at window cleaning. He's fast, efficient and expert at cleaning. But that's not what earns him the money, it only gets him recommendations and new clients. Here's how he operates:

1. His focus is on retail businesses in busy town centres which need to keep their shop fronts spotless on a monthly basis. He also offers to clean inside (at a higher rate). He won't touch domestic or large contract work because it isn't as profitable.
2. He runs an "aprentice" scheme where he trains new window cleaners - and I mean trains. He also get rid of slackers and anyone who isn't good enough.
3. People who make it through his "scheme" are set up with a portfolio of his clients. Because he's good and trusted he has more clients than he can handle. He also guarantees that if the work isn't up to his standards that he will put it right at no cost.
4. His apprentices pay him 20% of the income from his clients during the first 2 years during which they can find additional clients of their own (he doesn't take a share of those earnings). He also helps them with their tax and running their business. At the end of 2 years they hand back his clients (so he can pass them on to the next apprentice, or they can continue with him at a newly negotiated rate.

I don't know his exact monly earnings but he has around 30 people working for him and there's a waiting list to join.

In short, don't build a job, build a business system.
 

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The fact that I am not doing it probably costs me a few hundred each week, when looking at the profits the others here are making from that.
I'll just leave this here...

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@piano This is what happens when you advertise cleaning windows as a viable dating strategy.

Soon we will have a sub-forum in the men's locker room section dedicated to cleaning windows.



Good luck @constant
Congratulations for taking action! I hope that you will achieve your goals.
 

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Update

Today was my first day washing windows. I made 40 €.

I was washing my grandma's windows and then a neighbor asked me to wash her windows too. I set the price too low though, next time I'll be smarter and ask more.

For some reason, when I used the cleaning solution, there was always some residue left on the windows. I decide to start washing with water only, as that way I got windows washed alot quicker and it looked better too. The previous cleaner used only water too.

Also the cleaning company I mentioned in a previous post, the owner agreed to get me a part-time job there. I'll be learning from actual professionals and getting paid for it.
That's awesome!
How much soap did you put in btw? And did you use dish soap or regular soap?

@piano This is what happens when you advertise cleaning windows as a viable dating strategy.
WAIT, MAYBE I CAN TURN THAT INTO A PAID COURSE-
 
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This week I didn't earn any money, although I went out and walked a lot. I went to business streets and offered my services to every business on the first floor that had even slightly dirty windows. However, almost all of the stores had perfectly clean windows, and the ones that didn't said that their property manager would take care of it.
I'm beginning to think that the 'season' of window cleaning is over, since most places only do it during spring.
I also applied for 12 gigs, but all got rejected.


Entrepreneurship has become my only interest now. Everything else, even my hobbies, have become a chore. All I want to do is work on my business. It's just so fulfilling.

I'm currently working on starting a CENTS business (I'm still in the idea phase). The biggest bottleneck is funding.
 

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Update

Today I bought the required equipment, and got my first client. This client is a relative, but she still insists that she wants to pay for my services. I also found great spots where small businesses are that can be sold window cleaning.

One of my family members is friends with a cleaning service business owner (dozens of employees). Thinking that maybe I should ask her for advice and tips.

I also found out about another window cleaner in my area. I'm in two minds whether I should contact him or not. On one hand, maybe he could give me gigs that he doesn't want to do. On the other, he might see me as a competitor.
 
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Update

Today was my first day washing windows. I made 40 €.

I was washing my grandma's windows and then a neighbor asked me to wash her windows too. I set the price too low though, next time I'll be smarter and ask more.

For some reason, when I used the cleaning solution, there was always some residue left on the windows. I decide to start washing with water only, as that way I got windows washed alot quicker and it looked better too. The previous cleaner used only water too.

Also the cleaning company I mentioned in a previous post, the owner agreed to get me a part-time job there. I'll be learning from actual professionals and getting paid for it.
 
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Today I learned something the hard way. DONT PROCRASTINATE!

So the store manager number I got on the weekend right? If I had called it yesterday like planned then I probably would have closed the sale. The phone call went very well since I spoke clearly and confidently, but turns out today she ordered a window washing robot. No sale. This lesson costed me 70 eur, but it will serve me for life.
But did you learn the lesson of buying a window cleaning robot?

Everybody's looking for employees. You could be value skew your company to "The window cleaning of the future is here today". Imagine saying that when you answer the phone. Or walk door to door.

I'm not saying it's a good idea. Just some food for thought.
 

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Alright, here goes what I've learned so far (I assume you mean residential specifcally):

-Be confident
-Always try to find a convo opener, for example "Hey, nice garden, do you do it yourself?". And if there is no obvious/convenient one, try to find one, for example "Heya, no worries! I'm not from one of those scammy companies!"
-Be funny ^, just be goofy and lighthearted, I think that's how you form great humour over time.
-Be wary of their body language and your own. For example, you don't want to stand "face-to-face" with your body, so to speak. Try to have your feet angled somewhere else so that there is no tension between you guys. Although try both out.
-Adapt to the person: Old granny, speak slow, big dude, speak confidently and to the point, etc.
-Tell them you're known or act as if you should be "Heya, have you seen a great guy in a red shirt walking around here? He's doing awesome deals! Oh wait, that's me!" or "Yeah, so I just did Barbara down the street earlier"
-Show, not tell. Point at dirty spots at windows if there, show your equip perhaps, etc.
-ENGAGE with them! "Heya, just take a quick step outside" or ask them a question. It's best when you get a yes-ish answer: "Heya, which side is the gate on?" "The left (yes-ish)"
-Try to reflect and adapt at where they basically turn off with your pitch and improve on that.
-Once heard "You knock on random peoples' doors and try to sell them your stuff. That's kinda a$$, so why don't you try to make it as pleasant as possible?". Aka, be funny, have a convo, be fun.
That's also basically what @Johnny boy said in one of the top posts of my window cleaning thread "Be an entertainer".
-There is a youtube series by Josh Lester. Awesome videos, go binge them when you have time.
Basically, try to imitate what he's doing and see if it works. He's helped me out so much with these videos! I'm honestly pretty surprised at how similar I sound to him sometimes.
-Looping, there's a video by Josh Lester about it as well.
-Adding value (aka looping kinda), add dust-removal, etc.
-If it's about the price and not value, never go down without a reason. "Sir, I'm really empathetic with your situation, so why don't we call it 149€? (with reason)". Because if you do without it, your service basically just becomes kinda worthless. You could go down to 5 bucks and you'd look like an idiot.
-"Oh, what if they refuse me because of my humour or jokes?"
I've heard by Jeffrey Gitomer once that you only scare away 1 in 10 people with that, or something similar to that. You also have to ask yourself if you want your fun customer or grumpy customer.

And uh, yeah. Just go have fun!
(Also keep in mind that what I wrote here is not to be taken 100%, try it out and figure it out yourself)
Wow, thanks a lot man for such a long reply. I'll be sure to integrate what you've learned so far into my own selling.
 

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Today I visited my mother's friend who is an owner of a cleaning business. It went very well. I learnt a really fast and efficient procedure for washing windows, and I got to borrow Unger gear for free. I'm a lot faster now.
 

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Since I have school holidays, I'm going to dedicate the entire following week to making as much money from window cleaning as possible.

Goal: make 1000eur
Currently I have made 140eur.

While I was doing the last gig, I talked to a local building owner who said that someone ~10 years ago did exactly the same thing as I'm doing right now. He went d2d all over the city and washed windows. The building owner said that I'm on the right track and he recommended me to register as a sole proprietor since some businesses might decline my offering if they can't pay taxes on it correctly (@piano, has anyone ever rejected you over this?). We also exchanged numbers so maybe I can get some leads from that.

Also funny story, while I was cleaning the windows some drunkard asked me in gibberish "Is the drug you're doing so good?". He thought I was washing windows for drugs :rofl:.
 

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Since starting this thread, I have:
  • Read through @Subsonic's and @piano's threads
  • Learned how the window cleaning procedure looks like
  • Made a list of equipment I need

The list of equipment I'm planning to buy:
  • A blue bucket
  • An under 18 inch squeegee
  • A scrubber
  • Microfiber towels
  • Cleaning solution
  • An extension pole
I wonder if I need anything else?

After I have the equipment, I'm going to practice a little by cleaning my house's windows.
I also need to think about how I will get my customers (d2d? fliers? word-of-mouth? google ads? facebook groups?).

There's still plenty of questions in my mind about this, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I'm currently only focusing on what I can act on.
Nice to see that your taking action.
I got started with flyers and it's a great way to advertise on a budget. My conversion has been 1 customer per 250 flyers. That leads to a roas of about 10x if you don't work for free.
 

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I used a professional cleaning liquid (a blue bottle from the cleaning supply store). It was concentrated and had to be mixed with water (ratio 1:30).
Ahhhhhhhh, do you mean rainbow streaks by any chance? They are relatively normal and can be slightly prevented, will most of the time be there tho.
Here's a guide:
View: https://youtu.be/IN_F50hYSg4
 

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Ahhhhhhhh, do you mean rainbow streaks by any chance? They are relatively normal and can be slightly prevented, will most of the time be there tho.
Here's a guide:
View: https://youtu.be/IN_F50hYSg4
I have never seen rainbow streaks before. I've only seen small white lines, streaks, smudges etc.
It probably means that I need to improve my cleaning skills. Direct sunlight makes washing a lot harder haha.

SteveO makes great videos, thanks for the link.
 
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Good luck with your journey! You're going to learn a lot through offering a local service.

One thing I actually recommend when starting out is to test a few different services.. maybe you can do weed pulling, window cleaning, and another service and see what sells best in your area and something that can scale. Once you've got the "best" service down, go all in on that. Last summer when I was only making about 40-45k from my day job, I did weed pulling and had a buddy tag along.. Was charging $100+ an hour just for pulling weeds.
 

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Since Saturday, I sadly haven't gotten much done. However:

1.I got a new client through word-of-mouth. She's also a businesswoman so maybe I could learn something from her.
2.My relative suggested that she'd recommend my services on Facebook because she has a lot of contacts & local groups there and I could get plenty of free exposure.

I'm currently a bit hesitant on whether my cleaning is high quality enough, so I'm going to invest some time into practice and learning.

After some time perhaps I can expand into other local services, like pressure washing, weed pulling, oven cleaning, etc. (Thank you @fridge for the recommendation)

My end goal of offering local services is to get money for scalable businesses. I intend to quickly test ideas, pick the winners and discard the failures, and then rapidly scale.
 

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On the weekend, I went out door-to-door advertising my services. Most places were closed, but in one store, an employee gave me their manager's number to call.

Any tips for selling window cleaning on the phone?
 

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On the weekend, I went out door-to-door advertising my services. Most places were closed, but in one store, an employee gave me their manager's number to call.

Any tips for selling window cleaning on the phone?
Have you thought about scraping or hiring someone to scrape you some businesses in the area, then you could voicemail drop them? This would save a lot of time having to manually gather the info which would take ages.. are you encountering any objections yet or just still in the trying to make contact phase?

Johnny boy has a good thread/few posts on voicemail dropping you can check out.
 
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On the weekend, I went out door-to-door advertising my services. Most places were closed, but in one store, an employee gave me their manager's number to call.

Any tips for selling window cleaning on the phone?
My experience has been pretty easy since I am always the one getting called. Because of that I have a to date 100% conversion rate.

For your situation id say dont overthink it. Go something like "Hey you employee gave me your number to call you. (If you are rather young use this)I wanted to ask if I could clean your stores windows in exchange for a bit of money. (If your above the age of 16) I offer to clean windows here and wanted to ask if you would be interested in that.


Door to Door is that big one I cant bring myself to do either haha. The fact that I am not doing it probably costs me a few hundred each week, when looking at the profits the others here are making from that.
 
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Door to Door is that big one I cant bring myself to do either haha. The fact that I am not doing it probably costs me a few hundred each week, when looking at the profits the others here are making from that.

Take a handful of the flyers you have had printed and knock on peoples doors.

If someone answers say you just wanted to hand them this and give it to them. Point to something on it, then your number. If no one is in put it through the door as you would anyway.

This will ease you into door to door.

Dan
 

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I'll just leave this here...

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Man why do you have to expose me like this all the time haha.
Now I have to overcome my aproach anxeity.

For real though, thanks for calling me out on my shortcomings. Its always better to hear what I need to hear and not what I want to hear.
 
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