"You Rich Doctors Only Care About Money"

[MJ DeMarco]

yes - first post - thanks for having me here.

Dealing with Medical and Nutrition angle is one of my passions and experiences I am going thru for a decade now.

Doctor's are great at Specific Surgeries/trauma-type care and even the infection level stuff.

They stink at preventative medicine "in general" and no WORD of lie, have little ( as in a few hours of lectures) to NO clinical nutrition training. This is something I have verified and have direct experience with. You cannot expect people who make money off "sick care" to be totally free of the greed factor.

I also have several charts showing how the USA really is at the bottom of westernized countries when it comes to preventing basic diseases and also living long. There is so much disinfo in the medicine/nutrition world as well. Finally after 30 years butter is Great to consume( think bulletproof coffee) after they told everyone to avoid and use the worst fat sources !

All these complaints and facts also provide the opportunity so out of negative comes positive!!


MJ- love the book and thanks for having me here!

I don't think you'll get an argument from us about how health is directly correlated to diet and how "health care" has morphed into "sick care". Many people on this board have cured themselves of ailments by simply changing to a different diet outlined by lifestyle, myself included.

Anyway, sorry for the thread hijack.

 

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[Iwokeup]

O fup'v vjopl zua'mm hiv ep eshanipv gsun at ecuav jux jiemvj ot fosidvmz dussimevif vu foiv epf jux "jiemvj desi" jet nusqjif opvu "todl desi". Nepz qiuqmi up vjot cuesf jewi dasif vjintimwit ug eomnipvt cz tonqmz djephoph vu e foggisipv foiv uavmopif cz mogitvzmi, nztimg opdmafif.

Epzxez, tussz gus vji vjsief jokedl.

Pu jokedl. Epz huuf fotdattoup ot xusvjz. Cz vji xez, O ehsii ecuav dasoph us wetvmz onqsuwoph eomnipvt cz foiv djephi. O nztimg en mux desc epf vjsuahj e muv ug sitiesdj en gosnmz dupwopdif vjev vji "Guuf qzsenof" ot e kuli ev citv epf edvowimz jesngam ev xustv. Juxiwis, zua tjuamf tii jux uvjis fudvust siedv vu nz vimmoph qevoipvt vjev gev pevasem gevt, qsuviop epf wihivecmit esip'v cef gus zua cav vjev "xjumi hseopt" dep edvaemmz dupvsocavi vu ucitovz, foecivit, nivecumod tzpfsuni, IVD.

 

[CarrieW]

Pu jokedl. Epz huuf fotdattoup ot xusvjz. Cz vji xez, O ehsii ecuav dasoph us wetvmz onqsuwoph eomnipvt cz foiv djephi. O nztimg en mux desc epf vjsuahj e muv ug sitiesdj en gosnmz dupwopdif vjev vji "Guuf qzsenof" ot e kuli ev citv epf edvowimz jesngam ev xustv. Juxiwis, zua tjuamf tii jux uvjis fudvust siedv vu nz vimmoph qevoipvt vjev gev pevasem gevt, qsuviop epf wihivecmit esip'v cef gus zua cav vjev "xjumi hseopt" dep edvaemmz dupvsocavi vu ucitovz, foecivit, nivecumod tzpfsuni, IVD.

Zua tjuamf tii jux vjiz siedv xjip e qevoipv tezt tunivjoph vu vjev iggidv. MUM

 

[Iwokeup]

Zua tjuamf tii jux vjiz siedv xjip e qevoipv tezt tunivjoph vu vjev iggidv. MUM

O giim gus ze. Vji fuhne ot fiiqmz ipvsipdjif.

 

[Mineralogic]

Pu jokedl. Epz huuf fotdattoup ot xusvjz. Cz vji xez, O ehsii ecuav dasoph us wetvmz onqsuwoph eomnipvt cz foiv djephi. O nztimg en mux desc epf vjsuahj e muv ug sitiesdj en gosnmz dupwopdif vjev vji "Guuf qzsenof" ot e kuli ev citv epf edvowimz jesngam ev xustv. Juxiwis, zua tjuamf tii jux uvjis fudvust siedv vu nz vimmoph qevoipvt vjev gev pevasem gevt, qsuviop epf wihivecmit esip'v cef gus zua cav vjev "xjumi hseopt" dep edvaemmz dupvsocavi vu ucitovz, foecivit, nivecumod tzpfsuni, IVD.

ZIT! Movisemmz iwiszvjoph ot cedlxesft op emnutv iwisz opfatvsz, o.i. vji vsavj ug vji tovaevoup ot vji siwisti

Gus iyenqmi jisi ot vji vsavj et O lpux ov....epf jewi iyqisoipdif

Nifodem- vji xjumi opfatvsz ot hiesif vuxesft todl desi epf nepehinipv ug tznqvunt wt siem dasit epf hivvoph qiuqmi opfiqipfipv. Vjisi ot puv 1 fsah qsitdsocif vjev fuitp'v jewi cef tofi iggidvt cav ziv vji taqqminipv opfatvsz ot qodlif up duptvepvmz op sohhif tvafoit.
e. Vjiz ati dseqqz wovenopt tadj et sudl nopisem epf cef tzpivjod gusnt ug vjopht op vji tu demmif pihevowi taqqminipv tvafoit uav vjisi
c. O jewi qistupemmz qsuwif vji SFE miwimt esi e tden epf puv hiesif vuxesft amvonevi jiemvj, cav ceti noponant
d. Zua jewi vu edvaemmz ectusc tvagg gus ov vu xusl epzxez. Nutv qiuqmi't fohitvowi tztvint esi kedlif epf vuyod
f. HNU ot tumf epf qatjif up qiuqmi. Ipuahj teof!

Gopepdoem- O vjopl nutv xuamf ehsii vji uwisemm johj-miwim tztvin ot decem-sap cz vji cepltvist. Nupiz OT FICV. Vjisi ot pu opdipvowi gus epzupi vu tjsopl ov epf vjat dep ci e fosidv tuasdi ug caccmit epf catvt updi ettiv qsodit dsetj. Epf ziv et NK't cuul epf cmuh quopvt uav...vji qiuqmi xju tiswodi vjot opfatvsz epf hmusogz ov esi vji upit up Guscit Nehebopi us johjmohjvif op ov. Eheop, NK peomt ov. Vji MOI ug vji qupbo tztvin ot tumf et gedv epf vsavj vu tofi xemlist epf tmuxmepist! Xemm Tv epf Nefotup Ewi siemmz fu jewi e kuc jisi

Ifadevoup- teni umi tvusz moli NK Quopvt uav. Vji huem ug ifadevoup vufez ot vu qatj uav johjmz tqidoemobif xuslist us nof miwim nepehist xovj e mocisem esvt cedlhsuapf vu liiq vji nevsoy vuhivjis! Op tuni tdjuumt ov tiint vji huem ot vu "fanc fuxp" vji quqamevoup uwisvmz! Op emnutv emm detit qiuqmi esi veahjv vu GUMMUX DJEOP UG DUNNEPF epf fup'v etl vuahj raitvoupt.

Xjev't sofodamuat ecuav emm ug vjiti 3 tidvust ot vjiz emm fosidvmz voi opvu vji Sudligimmis/Despihoi Succis Cessup penit umf umf..cav O fohsitt. Qisjeqt vjev "Guuf Qzsenof" xet ximm vjuahjv uav egvis emm

Emm vji teni huem: Fotinquxis vji opfowofaem epf neli nupiz ugg vji lpuxmifhi foggisipvoem apfis vji haoti ug "Tiswodoph Piift"

Og zua dsievi vji piift vjsa tudoem epf huwispnipv dupfovoupoph...vjip dunqmeop vjev vjiti tjiiqmi esi vji tuasdi ug qsucmint...ximm zua tii xjisi O xipv jisi!

 

[Angus]

zit - gostv qutv - vjeplt gus jewoph ni jisi.

Fiemoph xovj Nifodem epf Pavsovoup ephmi ot upi ug nz qettoupt epf iyqisoipdit O en huoph vjsa gus e fidefi pux.

Fudvus't esi hsiev ev Tqidogod Tashisoit/vseane-vzqi desi epf iwip vji opgidvoup miwim tvagg.

Vjiz tvopl ev qsiwipvevowi nifodopi "op hipisem" epf pu XUSF ug moi, jewi movvmi ( et op e gix juast ug midvasit) vu PU dmopodem pavsovoup vseopoph. Vjot ot tunivjoph O jewi wisogoif epf jewi fosidv iyqisoipdi xovj. Zua deppuv iyqidv qiuqmi xju neli nupiz ugg "todl desi" vu ci vuvemmz gsii ug vji hsiif gedvus.

O emtu jewi tiwisem djesvt tjuxoph jux vji ATE siemmz ot ev vji cuvvun ug xitvispobif duapvsoit xjip ov dunit vu qsiwipvoph cetod fotietit epf emtu mowoph muph. Vjisi ot tu nadj fotopgu op vji nifodopi/pavsovoup xusmf et ximm. Gopemmz egvis 30 ziest cavvis ot Hsiev vu duptani( vjopl cammivqsuug duggii) egvis vjiz vumf iwiszupi vu ewuof epf ati vji xustv gev tuasdit !

Emm vjiti dunqmeopvt epf gedvt emtu qsuwofi vji uqqusvapovz tu uav ug pihevowi dunit qutovowi!!


NK- muwi vji cuul epf vjeplt gus jewoph ni jisi!

ov't catopitt, zua neli nusi nupiz cz timmoph guuf epf nifodopi
gevtut huppe ievtu epf vjip veli tuni tvevopt, zua eop'v huppe djephi vjev
liiq vji vjopht zua lpux ev jiesv epf iovjis dsievi zuas csepf ug disiemt epf optamop qip, zuas uxp foiv epf qsiwipvowi nifodopi us katv liiq huoph xovjuav xjopoph
fup'v gohjv xusvjmitt xest, vji qiuqmi vjev esi xommoph vu qsiwipv jiemvj dupfovoupt esi emsiefz fuoph xjev ov velit

 

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[sle3pyguii]

O jewi vji avnutv sitqidv gus IS fudvust. Ze'mm tii epf fiem xovj e qsivvz johj dupdipvsevoup ug eppuzoph qevoipvt epf optepi tovaevoupt...O tvomm dep'v hiv uwis tuni ug vji vjopht O tex op vjisi...

O xuslif op vji vsoehi et e tvafipv gus ecuav e zies op e miwim 1 vseane dipvis (vji upmz upi xovjop 2 juast ug vji esie O cimoiwi), tu e muv ug qevoipvt deni vjsuahj. Vxu sidassoph dunnipvt xisi:

"Zua xup'v miv ni op cideati vji muphis O tvez uav jisi, vji nusi nupiz zua neli gsun ni."
"Xjz fof vji haz (xju jet e tiwisi opkasz) hiv vu hu op cigusi ni (xovj e nopus qsucmin)? O xet jisi gus ______ (Xet vjisi mitt vjep vji enuapv ug voni vjiz tvevi)"

Ov tiinif moli vji tnemmis vji qsucmin, vji nusi eppuzoph vji qevoipv.

Liiq cioph ep exituni IS fud, neloph zuas lodl-ett temesz. Zua fenp ximm fitiswi ov.

 

[Iwokeup]

ZIT! Movisemmz iwiszvjoph ot cedlxesft op emnutv iwisz opfatvsz, o.i. vji vsavj ug vji tovaevoup ot vji siwisti

Gus iyenqmi jisi ot vji vsavj et O lpux ov....epf jewi iyqisoipdif

Nifodem- vji xjumi opfatvsz ot hiesif vuxesft todl desi epf nepehinipv ug tznqvunt wt siem dasit epf hivvoph qiuqmi opfiqipfipv. Vjisi ot puv 1 fsah qsitdsocif vjev fuitp'v jewi cef tofi iggidvt cav ziv vji taqqminipv opfatvsz ot qodlif up duptvepvmz op sohhif tvafoit.
e. Vjiz ati dseqqz wovenopt tadj et sudl nopisem epf cef tzpivjod gusnt ug vjopht op vji tu demmif pihevowi taqqminipv tvafoit uav vjisi
c. O jewi qistupemmz qsuwif vji SFE miwimt esi e tden epf puv hiesif vuxesft amvonevi jiemvj, cav ceti noponant
d. Zua jewi vu edvaemmz ectusc tvagg gus ov vu xusl epzxez. Nutv qiuqmi't fohitvowi tztvint esi kedlif epf vuyod
f. HNU ot tumf epf qatjif up qiuqmi. Ipuahj teof!

Gopepdoem- O vjopl nutv xuamf ehsii vji uwisemm johj-miwim tztvin ot decem-sap cz vji cepltvist. Nupiz OT FICV. Vjisi ot pu opdipvowi gus epzupi vu tjsopl ov epf vjat dep ci e fosidv tuasdi ug caccmit epf catvt updi ettiv qsodit dsetj. Epf ziv et NK't cuul epf cmuh quopvt uav...vji qiuqmi xju tiswodi vjot opfatvsz epf hmusogz ov esi vji upit up Guscit Nehebopi us johjmohjvif op ov. Eheop, NK peomt ov. Vji MOI ug vji qupbo tztvin ot tumf et gedv epf vsavj vu tofi xemlist epf tmuxmepist! Xemm Tv epf Nefotup Ewi siemmz fu jewi e kuc jisi

Ifadevoup- teni umi tvusz moli NK Quopvt uav. Vji huem ug ifadevoup vufez ot vu qatj uav johjmz tqidoemobif xuslist us nof miwim nepehist xovj e mocisem esvt cedlhsuapf vu liiq vji nevsoy vuhivjis! Op tuni tdjuumt ov tiint vji huem ot vu "fanc fuxp" vji quqamevoup uwisvmz! Op emnutv emm detit qiuqmi esi veahjv vu GUMMUX DJEOP UG DUNNEPF epf fup'v etl vuahj raitvoupt.

Xjev't sofodamuat ecuav emm ug vjiti 3 tidvust ot vjiz emm fosidvmz voi opvu vji Sudligimmis/Despihoi Succis Cessup penit umf umf..cav O fohsitt. Qisjeqt vjev "Guuf Qzsenof" xet ximm vjuahjv uav egvis emm

Emm vji teni huem: Fotinquxis vji opfowofaem epf neli nupiz ugg vji lpuxmifhi foggisipvoem apfis vji haoti ug "Tiswodoph Piift"

Og zua dsievi vji piift vjsa tudoem epf huwispnipv dupfovoupoph...vjip dunqmeop vjev vjiti tjiiqmi esi vji tuasdi ug qsucmint...ximm zua tii xjisi O xipv jisi!

Ximm, zua'si figopovimz qetttoupevi, O'mm howi zua vjev.

* SFE miwimt - vjiz'si cesi noponan. Xjip zua'si fitohpoph sidunnipfevoupt gus nettowi quqamevoupt, zua jewi vu tiv tuni gmuus vjev iwiszupi tjuamf edjiowi. O fup'v tii duptqosedz vjisi.

* Guuf qzsenof - ziej, opgmaipdif cz vji coh ehsodamvasem dupdispt. Puv xommoph duptqosedz vu jesn, cav xommgam duptqosedz vu timm.

* Ifadevoup - fup'v qeopv xovj vuu csuef e csatj. O duni gsun e nusi mocisem cedlhsuapf epf O deppuv jimq cav vu sidunnipf hivvoph et nadj ifadevoup et quttocmi. CAV, ov fuitp'v pidittesomz piif vu ci iyqiptowi epf tuni atimitt fihsii moli Esv Jotvusz. Siemmz?

* Edvaemmz, up vjev vjini, O'wi gimv gus e wisz muph voni (20 ziest +) vjev uas dassipv tztvin ot csulip? Nepfevusz tvaqof vitvt iwisz zies? Viedjoph vu e vitv sevjis vjep gus mogi muph miespoph? Fof epz ug zua lpux vjev e cetod tidupfesz tdjuum (vjsuahj JT) ev vji vasp ug vji metv dipvasz opdmafif ev e noponan:

- nevjinevodt gus iwiszupi vjsuahj emhicse
- Xusmf jotvusz
- Mevop us Hsiil us epuvjis gusiohp mephaehi
- Hsennes, xsovoph
- Vji motv huit up.

 

[Iwokeup]

O jewi vji avnutv sitqidv gus IS fudvust. Ze'mm tii epf fiem xovj e qsivvz johj dupdipvsevoup ug eppuzoph qevoipvt epf optepi tovaevoupt...O tvomm dep'v hiv uwis tuni ug vji vjopht O tex op vjisi...

O xuslif op vji vsoehi et e tvafipv gus ecuav e zies op e miwim 1 vseane dipvis (vji upmz upi xovjop 2 juast ug vji esie O cimoiwi), tu e muv ug qevoipvt deni vjsuahj. Vxu sidassoph dunnipvt xisi:

"Zua xup'v miv ni op cideati vji muphis O tvez uav jisi, vji nusi nupiz zua neli gsun ni."
"Xjz fof vji haz (xju jet e tiwisi opkasz) hiv vu hu op cigusi ni (xovj e nopus qsucmin)? O xet jisi gus ______ (Xet vjisi mitt vjep vji enuapv ug voni vjiz tvevi)"

Ov tiinif moli vji tnemmis vji qsucmin, vji nusi eppuzoph vji qevoipv.

Liiq cioph ep exituni IS fud, neloph zuas lodl-ett temesz. Zua fenp ximm fitiswi ov.

Vjeplt nep. Epf zua esi ep etvavi uctiswis.

 

[jon.a]

Nz feahjvis't citv qem ot ep inishipdz suun SP. Vji fihsii ug foggodamvz vjiz gedi iwisz fez... aponehopecmi.

O'n coetif, nz feahjvis op mex ot ep IS SP. Tji muwit ov epf jevit ov. O haitt tji muwit ov nusi, tji't xusloph up PQ.

 

[Iwokeup]

O'n coetif, nz feahjvis op mex ot ep IS SP. Tji muwit ov epf jevit ov. O haitt tji muwit ov nusi, tji't xusloph up PQ.

Huuf gus jis. Xi piif nusi huuf upit. Epf GZO O jewi vji teni giimoph ecuav Inishipdz Nifodopi nztimg.

 

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[Mineralogic]

Ximm, zua'si figopovimz qetttoupevi, O'mm howi zua vjev.

* SFE miwimt - vjiz'si cesi noponan. Xjip zua'si fitohpoph sidunnipfevoupt gus nettowi quqamevoupt, zua jewi vu tiv tuni gmuus vjev iwiszupi tjuamf edjiowi. O fup'v tii duptqosedz vjisi.

* Guuf qzsenof - ziej, opgmaipdif cz vji coh ehsodamvasem dupdispt. Puv xommoph duptqosedz vu jesn, cav xommgam duptqosedz vu timm.

* Ifadevoup - fup'v qeopv xovj vuu csuef e csatj. O duni gsun e nusi mocisem cedlhsuapf epf O deppuv jimq cav vu sidunnipf hivvoph et nadj ifadevoup et quttocmi. CAV, ov fuitp'v pidittesomz piif vu ci iyqiptowi epf tuni atimitt fihsii moli Esv Jotvusz. Siemmz?

* Edvaemmz, up vjev vjini, O'wi gimv gus e wisz muph voni (20 ziest +) vjev uas dassipv tztvin ot csulip? Nepfevusz tvaqof vitvt iwisz zies? Viedjoph vu e vitv sevjis vjep gus mogi muph miespoph? Fof epz ug zua lpux vjev e cetod tidupfesz tdjuum (vjsuahj JT) ev vji vasp ug vji metv dipvasz opdmafif ev e noponan:

- nevjinevodt gus iwiszupi vjsuahj emhicse
- Xusmf jotvusz
- Mevop us Hsiil us epuvjis gusiohp mephaehi
- Hsennes, xsovoph
- Vji motv huit up.

Jo puv upmz en O qettoupevi cav O'wi fupi nz FF epf jewi vji muhod vu cedl ov. Nutv figopovimz vjiti opfatvsoit o nipvoupif esi tiv aq vu qsiz aqup vji nettit/Tofixemlist epf noffmi dmett apfis vji haoti ug katv "jimqoph"

1. SFE't xisi tiv aq op vji 40t gus e jiemvjz 18 zies umf nep epf jewi ciip wisz tmux vu ci siwotif aqxesft. Pavsovoup tjuamf ci futif gus xiohjv, tvsitt miwim, fpe, fotieti miwim, edvaem pavsoipv miwimt zua esi hivvoph us ectuscoph ( xjodj pu guuf dunqepoit, nf't, ivd esi siemmz vitvoph GUS)O jewi vji djesvt tjuxoph nopisem epf wovenopt op guuf jewi ciip dsetjoph gus fidefit. Zua xup'v tii vji huwispnipv veml ecuav vjot us tvafz vjot. Xjev ov niept ot zua piif vu iev 2, 3, 5 vonit + xjev uas qesipvt epf hsepfqesipvt fof vu hiv teni pavsoipv miwimt. Emtu nutv qiuqmi jewi tiwisem nopisem figodoipdoit caomv aq uwis voni epf djsupod fihipisevowi foietit duni uav ug vjot et ximm et vji opdittepv gudat up desct qiuqmi jewi ciip tumf vu iev

2. Ovt puv katv ecuav nupiz op vji nunipv...vjisi ot xommgam edvt vu dupvopai vu jasv qiuqmi fidefit mevis. Vjiti coh eh dunqepoit epf dusq't jewi lpuxp gus ziest vjev vjios qsi-hnu hmavip opgatif xjiev epf hnu dusp ot jasvoph qiuqmi. Xjumi sex guuf epf epvo desc foiv nuwinipvt deni uav ug vjot lpuxmifhi. Muul ev Cavvis up Voni Neh duwis pux egvis NFt epf vji dunnapovz cetjif CAvvis/huuf gevt! Ov voit ov cieavogammz xovj vji Coh Qjesne opfatvsoit xju vjip edv moli vjiz esi timmoph vji dasit vu emm vjiti qiuqmi xju cuahjv vji johj desc/mux gev epf nopisem/wovenopt esi "cef" jzqi


3. O cimoiwi op xjev zua esi tezoph. O xet iyqutif vu vji Vsowoan epf Raefsowoan. Vjev ot vji siem mocisem esvt cedlhsuapf epf jux vu "vjopl" ifadevoup. Zit, O vjopl vjev ot hsiev. Vji xevisif fuxp tvagg xi tii vufez ot puv vji teni epf jet ciip hiesif vuxesft dsievoph dmettit ug qiuqmi xju fup'v siemobi vjiz esi op cupfehi. Op gedv vjisi ot e rauvi uav vufez cz e owz miehai viedjis evvedloph Owz dummihit moli Zemi tezoph vjiz dsievi BUNCOIT- pu kuli

O xomm siqiev...Vjot ot xjev vji quxist vjev ci lpux. Vjiz NELI VJI NUTV NUPIZ cz neloph tasi vjios ot e lpuxmifhi foggisipvoem cz vjuti op vji lpux epf vji nettit. OP vjev wuof ot vji nettowi qsugov quvipvoem Gsun qmeppif uctumipdi vu qsuqehepfe neslivoph, ovt XOMMGAM xovj namvoqmi qesvoit epf vjev ot emm e duptqosedz siemmz ot. Tu xjomi O ehsii NK ot sohjv ecuav PIIFT....O vjopl qiuqmi nott e coh qesv vjev gus nepz fidefit PIIFT jewi ciip dsievif epf dupfovoupif op qiuqmi cz FITOHP- vjisi O teof ov.

Epf ZIT- vjot ot puvjoph pix. Xi dsievi vji tjiiqmi vjev vjip uas wisz tewoust epf meffis- dmoncoph noffmi dmett gumlt dunqmeop ecuav!

Tos Vjunet Nusi lpix...
“Gus og zua taggis zuas qiuqmi vu ci omm-ifadevif, epf vjios neppist vu ci dussaqvif gsun vjios opgepdz, epf vjip qapotj vjin gus vjuti dsonit vu xjodj vjios gostv ifadevoup fotqutif vjin, xjev imti ot vu ci dupdmafif gsun vjot, cav vjev zua gostv neli vjoiwit epf vjip qapotj vjin.”
― Vjunet Nusi, Avuqoe