Tim Sykes $5,000,000 Miami Mansion

[MJ DeMarco]

He's very blunt with people who call him out.

Wasn't this the guy that said something like "Ha Ha you 4HWW motherf*ckers, I worked 60 hours this week and made $600K this month. What did you lazy f*cks make?"

Speaking for myself, I appreciate that kind of bluntness because it exposes the truth: You aren't going to make the big money being a lazy-a$$ because you've decided to optimize yourself for a single-digit work week.

 

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[Shuffle]

Wasn't this the guy that said something like "Ha Ha you 4HWW motherf*ckers, I worked 60 hours this week and made $600K this month. What did you lazy f*cks make?"

Speaking for myself, I appreciate that kind of bluntness because it exposes the truth: You aren't going to make the big money being a lazy-a$$ because you've decided to optimize yourself for a single-digit work week.

Yea his responses are always like that. His twitter responses are fun to read too. I'm not sure if he works that long but he definitely has that "passion" when he does. It's just that much easier to market himself that way. It's great that says in the beginning "If you work hard enough, creating, blogging..." It just goes to show there are many ways to that one goal.

On another note, I have never seen that asian man Tom Vu. He's fun to watch...just for fun. "You can get the best raise of your life. Come to my seminar"

That escalated real quickly lmao.

 

[Aivix231]

He does make more cash teaching others how to make money and trade stocks

 

[MisterBHZ]

I just looked at his instagram. Guy is a marketing specialist. He's dangling fresh meat over the heads of hungry lions.

Hey @MJ DeMarco would you ever consider the marketing style of posting instagram pics of cash, the lambo, the houses, the lifestyle and making statuses saying "I make what you make in year every hour"?

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

would you ever consider the marketing style of posting instagram pics of cash, the lambo, the houses, the lifestyle and making statuses saying "I make what you make in year every hour"?

Not my style.

Other than my house (which I paid cash for) I actually OWN NOTHING that is Instagram worthy. "Check this out folks, this is a paper mache elephant I bought at Kirklands. That set me back $19.99. And in my 4 car garage, look at that! My 10 year old Toyota with 110,000 miles." LOL. I sold the Murciealago several summers ago and have not had a urge to rebuy anything exotic. I used to love the attention that came from driving a Lambo, now I hate it. Even when I owned the Lambos and the cars I rarely posted pics and bragged about them.

I live in a 5500 square foot house by myself but it isn't adorned with expensive trinkets from the Far East -- I don't care about that stuff. I have zero interest in material items that may increase drama. I also don't think it would be smart for me withdraw $1M from the bank and take pictures of it laying around my house. I don't need to be a robbery target. And if a burglar got into my house, he'd be highly disappointed in the wares laying around.

I don't have a problem with Tim's marketing strategy as it probably is more fitting to his personality. And it appears to be working fabulously for him. I however, am an introvert and to mimic such a strategy would not be genuine to my character, what I find important, and what I find not important.

 

[CarrieW]

my 2c

ok the guy is a really good trader...(never heard of him before I am going to check out his stuff)

so he figure out a really good trading system. proved it by making a lot of money with it.

so he figured out how he could make more. by selling it.

so he packaged it up and started selling it. he proved hes a good salesman because he is making a lot of money selling his system...

just because he happens to be a better sales man then trader doesn't discredit his trading in the least...

I don't get it lol

 

[Rawr]

MJ, but I bet there is something you're splurging on...everyone has that

btw, the funniest thing I've heard about MJ is when I tried to introduce this forum to an online community who then decided MJ made his lambo money off of us "fools" that are here on the forum. Just too blind ignorant and victimized to even give a chance...a shame.

 

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[Kak]

Not my style.

Other than my house (which I paid cash for) I actually OWN NOTHING that is Instagram worthy. "Check this out folks, this is a paper mache elephant I bought at Kirklands. That set me back $19.99. And in my 4 car garage, look at that! My 10 year old Toyota with 110,000 miles." LOL. I sold the Murciealago several summers ago and have not had a urge to rebuy anything exotic. I used to love the attention that came from driving a Lambo, now I hate it. Even when I owned the Lambos and the cars I rarely posted pics and bragged about them.

I live in a 5500 square foot house by myself but it isn't adorned with expensive trinkets from the Far East -- I don't care about that stuff. I have zero interest in material items that may increase drama. I also don't think it would be smart for me withdraw $1M from the bank and take pictures of it laying around my house. I don't need to be a robbery target. And if a burglar got into my house, he'd be highly disappointed in the wares laying around.

I don't have a problem with Tim's marketing strategy as it probably is more fitting to his personality. And it appears to be working fabulously for him. I however, am an introvert and to mimic such a strategy would not be genuine to my character, what I find important, and what I find not important.

Please do a cribs video LOL.

"Over here is the Tacoma, it's pretty cool, I've had it for 6 years"
"This is where my lamborghini used to sit but I sold it, because I don't want drama"
"This house is completly paid for"

 

[DeletedUser394]

Please do a cribs video LOL.

"Over here is the Tacoma, it's pretty cool, I've had it for 6 years"
"This is where my lamborghini used to sit but I sold it, because I don't want drama"
"This house is completly paid for"

10/10, would watch lol.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

who then decided MJ made his lambo money off of us "fools" that are here on the forum. Just too blind ignorant and victimized to even give a chance...a shame.

Ive owned Lambos before this forum existed, which was before the book. I can't stop online f*cktards from drawing their own conclusions. As I say, their opinion of me changes nothing, just like your opinion of Tim, changes nothing for him. In the end, I live exactly like I want and answer to no one. In the end, morons who voice mistruths based on groundless assumptions, continue to live like morons.

MJ, but I bet there is something you're splurging on...everyone has that

Nothing.

I'd like to think the house I just bought, but even that isn't exactly what I was looking for. And I'm still looking for another house. If I find it, Ill pay cash for that too.

 

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[Kak]

Ive owned Lambos before this forum existed, which was before the book. I can't stop online f*cktards from drawing their own conclusions. As I say, their opinion of me changes nothing, just like your opinion of Tim, changes nothing for him. In the end, I live exactly like I want and answer to no one. In the end, morons who voice mistruths based on groundless assumptions, continue to live like morons.



Nothing.

I'd like to think the house I just bought, but even that isn't exactly what I was looking for. And I'm still looking for another house. If I find it, Ill pay cash for that too.

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Beautiful home in a beautiful part of the country!

 

[AllenCrawley]

@MJ DeMarco, When you find the house you really want, I'll buy this one.

 

[biophase]

There's sort of a weird paradigm with the guru speak. Let's say I make a $250,000/yr with my ecommerce store and I decide to create an ecom subscription website. I go on to sell 10,000 memberships at $20/mo, and now I'm making $200k a month, $2.4 mil a year... well over what I was making with just my store.

My knowledge enabled me to make $250k a year and it was so valuable that when I shared (sold) it to others, I made 10x that amount. Now I go buy a Ferrari and a $1.0m house.

I could have bought the Ferrari and the $1.0M house when I was making $250,000/yr, but it would have been a little financially irresponsible. But at $2.4m a year, it was a piece of cake.

Did I just become "that" guru? If I work on "internet marketing" of the website vs. increasing conversions of my store, am I making money by not teaching others how I made my money?

What business do you work harder on now? The $250k ecom store or the $2.4 mil ecom website? It only makes sense that your ROI will be alot greater working on your 2nd business.

 

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[MAU]

Not my style.

Other than my house (which I paid cash for) I actually OWN NOTHING that is Instagram worthy. "Check this out folks, this is a paper mache elephant I bought at Kirklands. That set me back $19.99. And in my 4 car garage, look at that! My 10 year old Toyota with 110,000 miles." LOL. I sold the Murciealago several summers ago and have not had a urge to rebuy anything exotic. I used to love the attention that came from driving a Lambo, now I hate it. Even when I owned the Lambos and the cars I rarely posted pics and bragged about them.

I live in a 5500 square foot house by myself but it isn't adorned with expensive trinkets from the Far East -- I don't care about that stuff. I have zero interest in material items that may increase drama. I also don't think it would be smart for me withdraw $1M from the bank and take pictures of it laying around my house. I don't need to be a robbery target. And if a burglar got into my house, he'd be highly disappointed in the wares laying around.

I don't have a problem with Tim's marketing strategy as it probably is more fitting to his personality. And it appears to be working fabulously for him. I however, am an introvert and to mimic such a strategy would not be genuine to my character, what I find important, and what I find not important.

Have to add, because I am also an introvert, I find having my own space to get away from it all much more important than showing off material trinkets.

All the best,

MAU

 

[Deleted20833]

This is not to debate whether penny stocks/trading is fast lane or not.

But he seems to be living life the way he wants.

Something we should all aspire to

Seems like a cool dude

 

[iTrader]

I'm choosing to say nothing about his character, but I do say this for all the members of this forum:

If you care about your capital, do not buy anything from this man. He is a scammer. Everything he says is all a big marketing strategy, but he will pump a stock up, and then dump it on his subscribers.

I'm not attacking Tim, I'm only saying this incase anyone on this forum think "Well he might be a good teacher!" I'm here to let you know to keep your money and learn somewhere else.

 

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[TonyStark]

His face is very punchable.

 

[Tristo]

If you read the '48 laws of power - robert greene' you'll figure out exactly what Sykes is up to.

 

[MTF]

Just checked this thread for the first time and had to reply when I read this:

Not my style.

Other than my house (which I paid cash for) I actually OWN NOTHING that is Instagram worthy. "Check this out folks, this is a paper mache elephant I bought at Kirklands. That set me back $19.99. And in my 4 car garage, look at that! My 10 year old Toyota with 110,000 miles." LOL. I sold the Murciealago several summers ago and have not had a urge to rebuy anything exotic. I used to love the attention that came from driving a Lambo, now I hate it. Even when I owned the Lambos and the cars I rarely posted pics and bragged about them.

I live in a 5500 square foot house by myself but it isn't adorned with expensive trinkets from the Far East -- I don't care about that stuff. I have zero interest in material items that may increase drama. I also don't think it would be smart for me withdraw $1M from the bank and take pictures of it laying around my house. I don't need to be a robbery target. And if a burglar got into my house, he'd be highly disappointed in the wares laying around.

I don't have a problem with Tim's marketing strategy as it probably is more fitting to his personality. And it appears to be working fabulously for him. I however, am an introvert and to mimic such a strategy would not be genuine to my character, what I find important, and what I find not important.

That's what I absolutely love about you and this forum. You tell the truth as it is with no bullshit and you could care less about bragging. The Fastlane is not about exotic cars, mansions, and all that vain stuff but about living the life on your own terms.

You have nothing to prove, you set up your life in a way that fits your personality (instead of conforming to the popular Instagram-style image of success), and that's precisely why I consider you (among other people from this forum like @Vigilante) my role model.

I set up my lifestyle in the same way, and couldn't be happier. If you met me on the street you'd probably never say I could afford the flashy lifestyle, and that's exactly how I like it.

There's sort of a weird paradigm with the guru speak. Let's say I make a $250,000/yr with my ecommerce store and I decide to create an ecom subscription website. I go on to sell 10,000 memberships at $20/mo, and now I'm making $200k a month, $2.4 mil a year... well over what I was making with just my store.

My knowledge enabled me to make $250k a year and it was so valuable that when I shared (sold) it to others, I made 10x that amount. Now I go buy a Ferrari and a $1.0m house.

I could have bought the Ferrari and the $1.0M house when I was making $250,000/yr, but it would have been a little financially irresponsible. But at $2.4m a year, it was a piece of cake.

Did I just become "that" guru? If I work on "internet marketing" of the website vs. increasing conversions of my store, am I making money by not teaching others how I made my money?

What business do you work harder on now? The $250k ecom store or the $2.4 mil ecom website? It only makes sense that your ROI will be alot greater working on your 2nd business.

Made me think of Pat Flynn. I have respect for the guy and his hustle, but can't help but shake my head each time he posts his income report. For instance, his most recent month was $176k in revenue, out of which $6k (3.4% of his revenue, almost a rounding error) came from non-guru sources and the rest from talking about making money (and primarily off Bluehost commissions).

$6k a month is pretty much nothing for most full-time entrepreneurs, and definitely not enough to become a guru. It doesn't set a good example for others, but then again I don't blame him - as you said, it only makes sense to work on the more profitable business.

 

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[MAU]

If you read the '48 laws of power - robert greene' you'll figure out exactly what Sykes is up to.

I have read "the 48 Laws of Power" and was wondering which ones do you feel Sykes is using in his promotions?

 

[ZMan26]

LOL I guess the best way to make money is story telling

1. find a random niche
2. tell everyone how much money you make in that niche, even if you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
3. sell books and digital products in that niche
4. rinse & repeat

Seriously, after reading the reviews..its pretty obvious the guy has no clue when it comes to trading

 

[Tristo]

I have read "the 48 Laws of Power" and was wondering which ones do you feel Sykes is using in his promotions?

Hey Man

Law 27 - Step 1 "Keep it vague, keep it simple": Your initiail speeches,coversations and interviews must include two elements. 1. The promise of something great and trandformative and 2) total vagueness
Step 2 "You need to amuse the board and awrn off the cynics": The best way to do this is through theater, or other devices of its kind. Surround yourself with luxury, dazzel your followers with visual splender.
Step 3 "Borrow the forms of organised religion to structure the group": (This not so much)
Step 4 "Disguise your source of income": Never reveal that your wealth actually comes from your followers pockets, instead make it seem to come from the truth of your methods. (Eg: 7500 students @ $5000 = 37.5mil, as a rough estimate)
Step 5: "Set up an us Vs them dynamic" : (this also maybe not so much)

Also i won't get into them but Laws 6, 30 & 37 i also found relevant.

What do you think?

 

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[king156]

Hey Man

Law 27 - Step 1 "Keep it vague, keep it simple": Your initiail speeches,coversations and interviews must include two elements. 1. The promise of something great and trandformative and 2) total vagueness
Step 2 "You need to amuse the board and awrn off the cynics": The best way to do this is through theater, or other devices of its kind. Surround yourself with luxury, dazzel your followers with visual splender.
Step 3 "Borrow the forms of organised religion to structure the group": (This not so much)
Step 4 "Disguise your source of income": Never reveal that your wealth actually comes from your followers pockets, instead make it seem to come from the truth of your methods. (Eg: 7500 students @ $5000 = 37.5mil, as a rough estimate)
Step 5: "Set up an us Vs them dynamic" : (this also maybe not so much)

Also i won't get into them but Laws 6, 30 & 37 i also found relevant.

What do you think?

7500 x 5000 = 3.75 mill only a bit out then..

 

[Delmania]

Made me think of Pat Flynn. I have respect for the guy and his hustle, but can't help but shake my head each time he posts his income report. For instance, his most recent month was $176k in revenue, out of which $6k (3.4% of his revenue, almost a rounding error) came from non-guru sources and the rest from talking about making money (and primarily off Bluehost commissions).

$6k a month is pretty much nothing for most full-time entrepreneurs, and definitely not enough to become a guru. It doesn't set a good example for others, but then again I don't blame him - as you said, it only makes sense to work on the more profitable business.

You need to look at past income reports, he's not a guru. A guru is someone who dispenses advice on how to do X without ever having done X before. Pat's angle is he will teach people how to start online businesses, something he's done more than once. One quick way to distinguish between gurus and authentic experts is the level of humility. I have no idea what kind of car Pat drives, I have no idea what house he has. It's also not important. He has proven track record. The same goes for MJ - I know he had a lambo, but those pictures are the first of his house I've ever seen. I have no idea what car he has currently. He doesn't flash them in YouTube or Instagram, he doesn't need to. Neither Pat nor MJ have a need to flash anything, they have results, as proven by forums and podcasts.

 

[bringitnow28329]

Tim Sykes legally manipulates stocks by disclosing his position. (He was also a paid stock promoter back in 2011 as well). The reason he is able to do this is A. he has built up a huge subscriber base and a huge email list, twitter, facebook, and instagram following, and B. he focuses on micro cap penny stocks which move a lot more easily than large cap stocks. His tough guy, in your face attitude has attracted all the get rich quick, gambler types which has allowed him a steady supply of new unsuspecting idiots to prey on consistently as well.

His scheme is pretty straight forward and he has been doing it since 2007 successfully after his hedge fund blew up and he lost a majority of his net worth. He buys, or more often short sells a stock (bets against it) and then sends an alert to his subscribers. Whereas some guru's have a few hundred or at most 1000 subscribers, Tim may have as many as 10000+ nowadays ( I am not sure since I haven't looked into the guy since 2011ish). These people pay him $100-200 a month to receive his alerts and get his useless video lessons. When they receive his alerts they all pile into a stock. Now like I said these are small stocks and when a huge amount of people attack a stock in one direction it is guaranteed to move, sometimes significantly in a very short period of time.

Now for Tim he is essentially front running his subscribers so there's a no risk and as long as he "sells too early" which is exactly what he claims he does (since he says he isn't a great trader, and you can learn to do better than him), he makes money almost every time and since he posts the profits in real time on the website he owns profit'ly it seems pretty amzing like he has found the holy grail. A couple other things he doesn't trade big. He probably has $30-40+ million in net worth by this time, but he trades $25-100k positions at a time. This is because he has no need to really make big profits and risk his assets when he actually makes money from selling alert services, useless instructional DVD's and worst of all a $5,500 per year mentor ship program where has has conned many suckers over the last 4 years. All these people are looking for a way out of their miserable lives and their 9-5 jobs and that is exactly what Tim is feeding these people.

Now here is the thing. He does have people which traded in his chat room and reviewed his courses and were successful at becoming millionaires but they will tell you that they developed there own trading style. They will also tell you you CANNOT follow his alerts and make money. If you do this you will lose other than if you have a large account $100,000+ and learn how to scalp his alerts for 10-30 second trades (which most people do not). Tim's strategy is really not a strategy at all. It works because he front runs. For the average poor person with a $500 or couple thousand dollars they have absolutely no chance of being successful but he keeps on lying to these people and telling them the Sykes the limit if they are hard works, blah, blah blah. If you make $5-$10 million a year and your obsessed with money like him, you can be sure you are gonna keep doing what you are doing because it's like taking money from a baby.

On top of this he has a couple people that made a few million dollars (Tim Gritani is one), with 50,0000+ that failed miserably over the last 7-8 years that he has been conning suckers, errr I mean teaching but again they are not using his strategy. They are using their own strategy. Trading is difficult and takes years to learn and there is no shortcut or way you can follow a guru or even try to have some one hold your hand has numerous people claim they will do for you if you pay them XXX dollars a month. The truth is you have to learn it on your own 100% and roll with the punches and the inevitable setbacks and failures, which very few people are willing or able to do. This is why people think the stock market is a scam or that it is impossible to beat the market when in fact this is false (it definitely is possible, but much more difficult than you would imagine). The reality is because of the psychological nature of trading you have to lose thousands of dollars and spend thousands of hours to learn how the market really works.

I have traded for a living since 2002 which is why I know all about the scam that Timothy Sykes has going on. I've met Tim and hung out with him and actually in person he is nothing like the douche bag persona that he projects online (probably because he knows a person will kick his a$$ in real life if he acts that way), but he is not an honest person and is out to take advantage of anyone that will let him. Beware guys...

 

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[Tristo]

7500 x 5000 = 3.75 mill only a bit out then..

um....no....no it isn't.

 

[Delmania]

The same way MJ has helped a lot of us through his teachings and knowledge he has learned (WHICH WE PAID FOR, book/INSIDERS etc..) and rightfully so, I believe guys like MJ or Tim should be paid for the work they do to teach others of a better way.

People should definitely be paid when they provide legitimate value, I don't think any of us would question that. The question is whether or not what you're buying is valuable, and based on @bringitnow28329's post, the course is basically trying to teach people to get rich quick through the stock market, which is an incredibly bad idea.

The difference between people like @MJ DeMarco, @Vigilante, @ChickenHawk, etc. and Tim is they don't flash their shit on social media. I have no idea the house or car they drive. They don't come here and post it. Their posts are more focused on getting US to take action. Like I said, a good sign of an expert vs. a guru is humility. Humility requires an enormous amount of self-confidence, that can only be achieved by succeeding at something.

I'm not sure the comparison between the INSIDERS and Tim's course is valid. INSIDERS is more like a premium experience. I have to buy it, but I know there's no course in there. It's not selling you "exclusive strategies" (I know about the INE forum, non-members can see the forums in there), it's not holding your hand (that's what TMF did).

 

[Vigilante]

People should definitely be paid when they provide legitimate value, I don't think any of us would question that. The question is whether or not what you're buying is valuable, and based on @bringitnow28329's post, the course is basically trying to teach people to get rich quick through the stock market, which is an incredibly bad idea.

The difference between people like @MJ DeMarco, @Vigilante, @ChickenHawk, etc. and Tim is they don't flash their shit on social media. I have no idea the house or car they drive. They don't come here and post it. Their posts are more focused on getting US to take action. Like I said, a good sign of an expert vs. a guru is humility. Humility requires an enormous amount of self-confidence, that can only be achieved by succeeding at something.

I'm not sure the comparison between the INSIDERS and Tim's course is valid. INSIDERS is more like a premium experience. I have to buy it, but I know there's no course in there. It's not selling you "exclusive strategies" (I know about the INE forum, non-members can see the forums in there), it's not holding your hand (that's what TMF did).

I don't get why people keep using the word "Scheme"

I've never heard of this guy prior to this thread, but from skimming through it... It seems as though what is happening here is similar to what @MJ DeMarco has done, and i don't believe that is a scheme in the slightest bit.

Let me explain:

This guy(Tim) makes lots of money trading stocks. He then begins to sell memberships to a site to help teach people how to do it. Now if someone stumbles upon his site making $3.2k/mo at their slowlane job and decide to give his courses a try, and that person 6 months later starts making $7 -$8k/mo regularly. Then it is not a scheme.

Granted you cannot help everyone! So what i think is that someone who paid for his stuff, didn't get any value from it, then went and bashed him. But! what about the people that did gain value from it? Is it still a scheme to them? I doubt it.

How it is semi-similar to this IMO:

I always knew i wanted to venture into entrepreneurship, worked on a few things, failed, learned. But it wasn't until i read MJ's book that it really stuck out for me what i must do.

I am now about to launch a SaaS business because i put in the action required to get there. SaaS because i am using MJ's "scheme" of CENTS. Oh, i also paid for "INSIDERS" membership, did i or anyone else who has done this get "suckered" into a "scheme". I do not think so.

So please let's stop calling this guy a "schemer" if he is helping some people, then great.

The same way MJ has helped a lot of us through his teachings and knowledge he has learned (WHICH WE PAID FOR, book/INSIDERS etc..) and rightfully so, I believe guys like MJ or Tim should be paid for the work they do to teach others of a better way.

Finally, Take a step back and look at it like this:

People on TFF will call this guy a "schemer" the same as people in Tim's audience will probably refer to MJ. It's like High School Gossip. Usually the ones who don't "Make it" will flock to the other person's group, use their info, fail and then proceed to call both people a "schemer"

if you aren't succeeding with people LITERALLY holding your hand and guiding you through the steps...then...maybe the problem is you?

I know you aren't ripping on MJ or his lifework, but I thought I would pop in here to dispel a few myths within your analogy.

1. The INSIDERS is not how MJ set out to make money. He built it at OUR request, to provide a higher barrier to entry for some more in depth discussions. It is absolutely not equivocal to what gurus do to promote courses, classes, and money making schemes. I am not saying that Tim is a schemer... as I know nothing about him. But, your message paints a fundamental misunderstanding of the reason the INSIDERS exists. It only exists because it filled a need and added value that the market demanded.

2. The book was not how MJ set out to make money, although it did become a best seller. You're an INSIDERS, which means you can buy the book for a thin markup over printing costs plus shipping. Is that what gurus do? Give away the very product others think lines their pockets? Come on, man. I don't fundamentally disagree with your point, but your analogies were a stretch at best. He wrote the book to give back. I bought four more copies recently for a few bucks a piece. Gave them all away. He started with an objective to sell 100 books. Guru? Hardly. No equivalency. He doesn't hold himself out there like that. Just because the message resonates doesn't make the author a guru.

3. One of several differences between MJ and our generation's gurus? You said "Tim's audience" might refer to MJ as a guru. The difference between MJ and people who make their money by promoting their own guru shit, is that MJ literally doesn't care what people think, say, or spin. He cares about his message, the people that invest in making his lifework (his FREE forum) awesome, and that is about the extent of the amount of time he would spend caring what non-engagers say about shit they know nothing about. His most vicious critics are ALWAYS people that have never read his book. He wrote the book not as a money making scheme, but to give back to a world that gave to him, by showing people for the cost of a few lattes how he changed his vision and changed his life.

And, a comment on lifestyle and possessions since my name was dropped on that. At one point, I was over a million dollars in the hole by being stupid. I spent like a gravy train was never going to end, and then... it ended. It took me a long time to unbury that series of mistakes, self inflicted. Fast forward to today. I have a home in Minnesota that I am turning into a rental, and a leased property for now in Florida. I have some great cars... great because they are paid for. I originally thought I wanted the Lambo life. Now I realize the Lambo life is the one you never see. My cars? They're older. They're paid for. I pay cash for shit now.

There will be an exit event in my near future on some of my current businesses, but it won't change my lifestyle much. I spend an inordinate amount of time in Hawaii, but we live like locals, not the resort life. Life is simpler when you realize what is important and what isn't. I had to fall flat on my face to understand that. The people I hang out with from here are all the same as me. We're all at different parts of the journey, but nobody is better than anyone else. No amount of money changes that.

I am 1,000x more interested in what everyone HERE has done in the 2 years this thread has been going on to find freedom than I am in debating the merits of some guy who I don't give a shit about. We'll let history judge Tim Sykes. I don't give any F*cks. While people off and on have speculated over two years on this guy and whether he is a douche bag or not, I have spent it building a company, hanging around other people who are chasing their dreams and making them happen, and hanging out at the beach with my kid.

Faith, family, friends and business.

Let everything else go.

 

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[Delmania]

And, a comment on lifestyle and possessions since my name was dropped on that

Yep that was intentional. I'm trying to get people to look at your profile, to see that you and many other of the successful people don't sit there spamming us with images on Instagram, YouTube, SnapChat, etc. You're more interested in getting people to act than showing off.

 

[Vigilante]

Yep that was intentional. I'm trying to get people to look at your profile, to see that you and many other of the successful people don't sit there spamming us with images on Instagram, YouTube, SnapChat, etc. You're more interested in getting people to act than showing off.

Here's some truth. The time I was the MOST flashy was also the exact time that I was the MOST LEVERAGED in DEBT.

Having the money to pay the monthly bills doesn't mean you aren't deeply leveraged.

People would have seen the houses, the cars, the flash. They didn't see the bills, the bullshit, and the pending implosion.

How many people that wished they were me in early 2008 --- wouldn't have traded places with me for anything in late 2008?

Don't believe what you see. It's meaningless.