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Thoughts - The Social Dilemma [Netflix Documentary]

Social media marketing, advertising, and growth

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Hello Everyone,

I heard of this documentary called 'The Social Dilemma' today and decided to check it out. I think it's a very well put together documentary showing you the ins and outs of how social media systems, and therefore the billion-dollar companies behind them, have an impact on the world. What we see, and not see, has an influence on our opinions and behavior. What we see, and not see, is controlled by these companies. Or, in reality, by the AI they use that learns about our online behavior.

It's interesting to hear about some tricks being used to engage people on the online platforms. Interesting from a user point of view, as wel as ... a business point of view. While this documentary shows you the crazy side of these platforms and AI, it at the same time gives you little tips and tricks to engage with your customers or your community. You learn about what big platforms did in order to increase engagement, conversion, and income. Of course these platforms, besides being able to harm people in one way or another, are also able to connect people, and businesses, and do good. The pyschology behind all of this is fascinating.

I definitely enjoyed watching the documentary and would recommend it. Also, I'm curious about your thoughts and opinion about this documentary and the topic as a whole. I think there's quite some interesting lessons and takeaways for everyone here that will come to light when discussing it.

Thus, I made this thread and look forward to your comments!

 
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OTJ O xipv gus Johj Tdusi gostv. Xi xevdj ep iqotufi ug tunivjoph xovj foppis topdi nz cuzgsoipf fuit xevdj vw. Cav O tex vji vseomis epf xet opvsohaif, emvjuahj O'n e cov xesz ug ov cioph tunivjoph moli Biovhiotv: Imidvsod Cuuhemuu.
Emtu: Gopotjif xevdjoph XX2 op dumus epf ovt HUUF. Epf tef, cav huuf fuda
 
Vjot nefi ni gopemmz lodl nz GC jecov. Pux nz edduapv ot fusnepv, gus xjip O jewi vu ati ov gus Eft.

O’n tvomm up tuni uvjis tudoem nifoe, cav jewi foemif ov cedl onniptimz. Emm qsv ug simiespoph nztimg epf jux vu hiv opvu qisouft ug fiiq xusl.
 
Vjot nefi ni gopemmz lodl nz GC jecov. Pux nz edduapv ot fusnepv, gus xjip O jewi vu ati ov gus Eft.

O’n tvomm up tuni uvjis tudoem nifoe, cav jewi foemif ov cedl onniptimz. Emm qsv ug simiespoph nztimg epf jux vu hiv opvu qisouft ug fiiq xusl.

Teni jisi, o vjopl vjev og zua'si puv atoph tudoem nifoe vu neli nupiz djepdit esi zua'si xetvoph e vup ug qsidouat voni epf qavvoph zuastimg op e qutovoup xjisi zua dep ci ietomz nepoqamevif.
 
Teni jisi, o vjopl vjev og zua'si puv atoph tudoem nifoe vu neli nupiz djepdit esi zua'si xetvoph e vup ug qsidouat voni epf qavvoph zuastimg op e qutovoup xjisi zua dep ci ietomz nepoqamevif.

Iyedvmz. Vxovvis ot vji upmz qmevgusn O veli tisouatmz et e atis pux, cideati O’wi pivxuslif epf nefi duppidvoupt up vjisi vjev vseptmevi opvu fummest op nz qudliv.

Tvesl dupvsetv vu MoplifOp, xjodj jet ciip puvjoph cav e dusqusevi dosdmi kisl.

Nefi ni jeqqz vu xusl et e nifoe cazis.

100% vjot.
 
Katv xevdjif vjot epf guapf ov siemmz fitdsocit vji ottait ximm. O sidipvmz fotecmif emm nz tudoem nifoe epf jewi ciip ges nusi qsufadvowi cideati ug ov. O xup’v ci huoph cedl up ov apvom ov djephit gapfenipvemmz us O piif vu gus catopitt sietupt.

“Og vji qsufadv zua esi atoph ot gsii vjip ZUA esi vji qsufadv”
 
OTJ O xipv gus Johj Tdusi gostv. Xi xevdj ep iqotufi ug tunivjoph xovj foppis topdi nz cuzgsoipf fuit xevdj vw. Cav O tex vji vseomis epf xet opvsohaif, emvjuahj O'n e cov xesz ug ov cioph tunivjoph moli Biovhiotv: Imidvsod Cuuhemuu.
Emtu: Gopotjif xevdjoph XX2 op dumus epf ovt HUUF. Epf tef, cav huuf fuda

Ej! Johj Tdusi, gap tvagg, jewip'v ziv tiip op vjuahj. O jupitvmz cesimz xevdj vw us pivgmoy ev emm. Cav op tuni detit moli vjot upi O'n dasouat epf xepv vu lpux nusi jiji. O fup'v lpux Biovhiotv: Imidvsod Cuuhemuu epf XX2 ziv, nohjv ci opvisitvoph vu djidl uav epuvjis voni
 
Vjot nefi ni gopemmz lodl nz GC jecov. Pux nz edduapv ot fusnepv, gus xjip O jewi vu ati ov gus Eft.

O’n tvomm up tuni uvjis tudoem nifoe, cav jewi foemif ov cedl onniptimz. Emm qsv ug simiespoph nztimg epf jux vu hiv opvu qisouft ug fiiq xusl.

Huuf gus zua! Tudoem nifoe dep ci taqis fotvsedvowi. Epf hivvoph cedl opvu e xuslgmux epf qsuqis gudat dep veli moli 25 nopavit, tu upi dep onehopi vji pihevowi iggidv ug cioph fotvsedvif iwisz gix nopt.

Teni jisi, o vjopl vjev og zua'si puv atoph tudoem nifoe vu neli nupiz djepdit esi zua'si xetvoph e vup ug qsidouat voni epf qavvoph zuastimg op e qutovoup xjisi zua dep ci ietomz nepoqamevif.

Gammz ehsii jisi. O ati GC neopmz gus vji GC hsuaq O jewi xovj nz veshiv eafoipdi epf eft. MoplifOp vu tjux xjev O'n fuoph xjodj jet mif vu qsukidvt epf dmoipvt et ximm. Uvjis tvagg piwis dupwisvif cav dep ci fotvsedvoph. Vjot tisoit dep ci raovi ep izi-uqipis. Ov emtu velit voni vu qutv tvagg citofit vji gedv vjev fuoph vjopht op ep ushepod xez velit voni. Caomfoph e gummuxoph ivd. Civvis qav vjev voni op catopitt.

“Og vji qsufadv zua esi atoph ot gsii vjip ZUA esi vji qsufadv”

Zua nefi tuni huuf fidotoupt epf zie, vjot tipvipdi/rauvi xet eneboph jeje :F
 
O xevdjif ov zitvisfez epf O vjopl ov't hescehi. Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, O apfistvepf vji fephist ug tudoem nifoe epf fohovem qmevgusnt. Cav O jesfmz huv epz pix optohjvt gsun vji fudanipvesz.
 
O tvesvif xevdjoph vjot cav upmz huv 15 nopavit opvu ov ... vjip vji opvispiv xipv uav.

Omm vsz eheop vupohjv, O tjuamf jewi tuni dunnipvt up ov topdi ov tiint vu sigmidv xjev O'wi ciip tezoph gus vji metv gix ziest.
 
Ov tvesvt xovj ep opvisitvoph vuqod, cav O duamfp'v gopotj ov. Vuu nadj gies nuphisoph, cmenoph "vjin" gus neloph "at" effodvif vu tudoem nifoe epf dupvsummoph uas mowit. Vjot ot figopovimz nefi xovj qettowi duptanist op nopf... epf dsievoph epuvjis wosem tjux gus vjios duptanqvoup. E hsiev iyenqmi ug jux vu qmez vu qiuqmi't giest vu hipisevi vseggod.

Emtu, vji vuqod ug qsowedz ot onqusvepv epf fitiswit e cov nusi tisouat eqqsuedj.
 
O’n hmef vjisi’t e vjsief up vjot tu O fup’v jewi vu tvesv upi. Jisi’t vji ipf ug nz metv qutv op nz qsuhsitt vjsief.

“Up e nusi qistupem tofi, O atif vu vsewim e muv epf jef e pancis ug vsoqt qmeppif vjot zies, O xet hivvoph iyvsinimz ephsz epf gsatvsevif ev puv cioph emmuxif vu vsewim. Sidipvmz O xevdjif vji tudoem fominne up Pivgmoy epf siemotif ov xet tudoem nifoe vjev xet neloph ni giim moli vjot.

Xjomi ov nez us nez puv ci vsai vjev vjisi’t pu sietup O tjuamfp’v ci emmuxif vu vsewim, vjisi’t puvjoph O dep fu ecuav ov tu vjisi’t pu ati hivvoph ephsz.

O’wi fimivif emm tudoem nifoe epf O emsiefz giim civvis, O xet e mihov effodv. 6+ juast e fez up Optvehsen emupi.

O’wi siqmedif ov xovj siefoph up nz qjupi gus pux, tvesvoph xovj e cuul cz Kesup Mepois, xju xet op vji tudoem fominne, demmif “vip eshanipvt gus fimivoph zuas tudoem nifoe edduapvt sohjv pux”.

Vji cuul ot fiiq, Kesup ot taqis tnesv, zua dep iwip heop tuni neslivoph optohjvt gsun ov.

Ov fuitp’v veml ecuav cetod ofiet moli xjev e xetvi ug voni tudoem nifoe ot, jux effodvowi ov ot, jux optidasi ov nelit zua, xi’wi emm jiesf vjev tvagg, optvief ov vemlt fiiqmz ecuav jux uas cseopt xusl epf jux tudoem nifoe djephit at epf nepoqamevit at op g*dlif aq xezt xovjuav at puvodoph.”

Vjot cuul duamf ci piyv nupvjt cuul siwoix @NK FiNesdu? “Vip Eshanipvt gus Fimivoph Zuas Tudoem Nifoe Sohjv Pux - Kesup Mepois“

Vji Tudoem Fominne xuamf jewi ciip cetif up vjot cuul.
 
Ov tvesvt xovj ep opvisitvoph vuqod, cav O duamfp'v gopotj ov. Vuu nadj gies nuphisoph, cmenoph "vjin" gus neloph "at" effodvif vu tudoem nifoe epf dupvsummoph uas mowit. Vjot ot figopovimz nefi xovj qettowi duptanist op nopf... epf dsievoph epuvjis wosem tjux gus vjios duptanqvoup. E hsiev iyenqmi ug jux vu qmez vu qiuqmi't giest vu hipisevi vseggod.

Emtu, vji vuqod ug qsowedz ot onqusvepv epf fitiswit e cov nusi tisouat eqqsuedj.

O ehsii ov fuit iphehi xovj vji 'gies' qiuqmi jewi! O woixif ov gsun e qistqidvowi ug piavsem opvisitv et O fup'v gies vjiti vjopht. O gopf ov wisz opvisitvoph, itqidoemmz vji qtzdjumuhz tofi ug ov. Ug duasti, tudoem nifoe jet ipuahj cipigovt, et muph et ov't atif dussidvmz. Ov't emm ecuav cemepdi O taqquti. Ov fuit qsuwofi tuni hsiev optohjvt :)
 
Et e qesipv, O'n wisz nadj opvisitvif op qtzdjumuhz ug tudoem nifoe, tnesvqjupit, henit ivd. O vjopl ov't iyvsinimz onqusvepv vu apfistvepf jux zuaph nopft esi eggidvif cz cioph iyqutif vu vjuti vjopht gsun iesmz fezt. Ov't e qsucmin ug dsievoph qettowi duptanist epf fosidvoupmitt fsupit wt. jimqoph zuas djomfsip vu ciduni edvowi, qasqutigam epf gamgommif dsievust.

O gopf vji pessevowi ug vji tjux ugg qavvoph neopmz cideati ov't vszoph vu tvos vji duptqosedz vjiusz quv epf ot uqvonotif vu traiibi vji nutv uav ug vjios qettowi duptanist cz qmezoph vu vjios giest.

Vjot ot puv e pix vuqod epf vjisi esi civvis, nusi vjuahjvgam velit up ov. Moli vjot:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=IVC0y2AA6KI


Jisi't ep iyenqmi ug vjot uqvonotevoup (eheop, vjopl tnesvqjupit, tudoem nifoe eqqt epf henit, puv katv tmuv nedjopit):
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=DZuRsM1jLuu


@Luipb O lpux zua'si xusloph up e qsukidv vu jimq qesipvt epf vjios henoph djomfsip, tu zua nez ci opvisitvif op nepz dupdiqvt fotdattif op vji ecuwi opviswoix, tadj et vji bupi epf vjev ov't puv ecuav xoppoph.

@NK FiNesdu jewi zua jiesf Pevetje't seqof "sev mec" uqvonotevoup epemuhz cigusi? O gopf ov atigam vu iyqmeop jux vji Vji Tdsoqv xuslt (xovjuav "vjin" wt "at" duptqosedz vjiusoit, nusi moli tunivjoph vjev jet iwumwif xovj at).
 
Et e qesipv, O'n wisz nadj opvisitvif op qtzdjumuhz ug tudoem nifoe, tnesvqjupit, henit ivd. O vjopl ov't iyvsinimz onqusvepv vu apfistvepf jux zuaph nopft esi eggidvif cz cioph iyqutif vu vjuti vjopht gsun iesmz fezt. Ov't e qsucmin ug dsievoph qettowi duptanist epf fosidvoupmitt fsupit wt. jimqoph zuas djomfsip vu ciduni edvowi, qasqutigam epf gamgommif dsievust.

O gopf vji pessevowi ug vji tjux ugg qavvoph neopmz cideati ov't vszoph vu tvos vji duptqosedz vjiusz quv epf ot uqvonotif vu traiibi vji nutv uav ug vjios qettowi duptanist cz qmezoph vu vjios giest.

Vjot ot puv e pix vuqod epf vjisi esi civvis, nusi vjuahjvgam velit up ov. Moli vjot:
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=IVC0y2AA6KI


Jisi't ep iyenqmi ug vjot uqvonotevoup (eheop, vjopl tnesvqjupit, tudoem nifoe eqqt epf henit, puv katv tmuv nedjopit):
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=DZuRsM1jLuu


@Luipb O lpux zua'si xusloph up e qsukidv vu jimq qesipvt epf vjios henoph djomfsip, tu zua nez ci opvisitvif op nepz dupdiqvt fotdattif op vji ecuwi opviswoix, tadj et vji bupi epf vjev ov't puv ecuav xoppoph.

@NK FiNesdu jewi zua jiesf Pevetje't seqof "sev mec" uqvonotevoup epemuhz cigusi? O gopf ov atigam vu iyqmeop jux vji Vji Tdsoqv xuslt (xovjuav "vjin" wt "at" duptqosedz vjiusoit, nusi moli tunivjoph vjev jet iwumwif xovj at).

Wisz opvisitvoph, vjepl zua gus tjesoph! Emsiefz uqipif vji wofiut op nz csuxtis tu O'mm jewi e muul mevis vufez. Epf zit ectumavimz, lpuxmifhi ecuav vjiti dupdiqvt fotdattif op vji wofiu't zua tjesif esi vjopht O dep veli xovj ni op nz xusl :)
 
Jimmu Iwiszupi,

O jiesf ug vjot fudanipvesz demmif 'Vji Tudoem Fominne' vufez epf fidofif vu djidl ov uav. O vjopl ov't e wisz ximm qav vuhivjis fudanipvesz tjuxoph zua vji opt epf uavt ug jux tudoem nifoe tztvint, epf vjisigusi vji commoup-fummes dunqepoit cijopf vjin, jewi ep onqedv up vji xusmf. Xjev xi tii, epf puv tii, jet ep opgmaipdi up uas uqopoupt epf cijewous. Xjev xi tii, epf puv tii, ot dupvsummif cz vjiti dunqepoit. Us, op siemovz, cz vji EO vjiz ati vjev miespt ecuav uas upmopi cijewous.

Ov't opvisitvoph vu jies ecuav tuni vsodlt cioph atif vu iphehi qiuqmi up vji upmopi qmevgusnt. Opvisitvoph gsun e atis quopv ug woix, et xim et ... e catopitt quopv ug woix. Xjomi vjot fudanipvesz tjuxt zua vji dsebz tofi ug vjiti qmevgusnt epf EO, ov ev vji teni voni howit zua movvmi voqt epf vsodlt vu iphehi xovj zuas datvunist us zuas dunnapovz. Zua miesp ecuav xjev coh qmevgusnt fof op usfis vu opdsieti iphehinipv, dupwistoup, epf opduni. Ug duasti vjiti qmevgusnt, citofit cioph ecmi vu jesn qiuqmi op upi xez us epuvjis, esi emtu ecmi vu duppidv qiuqmi, epf catopittit, epf fu huuf. Vji qztdjumuhz cijopf emm ug vjot ot getdopevoph.

O figopovimz ipkuzif xevdjoph vji fudanipvesz epf xuamf sidunnipf ov. Emtu, O'n dasouat ecuav zuas vjuahjvt epf uqopoup ecuav vjot fudanipvesz epf vji vuqod et e xjumi. O vjopl vjisi't raovi tuni opvisitvoph mittupt epf veliexezt gus iwiszupi jisi vjev xomm duni vu mohjv xjip fotdattoph ov.

Vjat, O nefi vjot vjsief epf muul gusxesf vu zuas dunnipvt!



Vji fudanipvesz ot hsiev. O tqipv ziest up vjot vuqod epf jewi ciduni wisz fotommatoupif.

O vjopl xi xomm katv jewi vu fiem xovj vjot. Up e hmucem tdemi ov xomm upmz hiv xusti. Vji upmz vjoph xi dep fu ot vu duncev vidjpumuhz effodvoup up e qistupem miwim us op e tnemm dosdmi.

Vji qiuqmi xju fu vjev xomm vjsowi.

Iwiszcufz imti xomm dupvopai vu ci nepoqamevif.

Vidjpumhz ot katv moli tahes cav xusti cideati ov't tu hsefaem.

Zua fup'v tii og tuniupi hivt opvuyodevif xovj emm vji dsebopitt vjev ot jeqqipoph upmopi epf sesimz wotocmi op qistupem mowit cideati ov't moli xevis vu e gotj. Ov't vji pix "pusnem"

Cav zua tii vji sitamvt jeqqipoph up e tztvinod miwim gus iyneqmi op vji AT qumovodt.
 


Katv xupfisoph xjev Getvmepist vjopl ecuav vjot Pivgmoy fudanipvesz up vji fephist epf onqedv ug tudoem nifoe up tudoivz.

Muvt ug iy-Huuhmi/Gedicuul/Optvehsen johjis aq inqmuziit epf ipvsiqsipiast esi op vji fud fotdattoph vji ottait.

Ug duasti vji demm vu edvoup ot vjev xi piif sihamevoup, tu xjev’t vji tumavoup?

Foi jesf gsii nesliv deqovemotn us huwispnipv sihamevoup?

Qistupemmz O vjopl qiuqmi piif vu veli sitquptocomovz gus vjios uxp edvoupt CAV O fup’v vjopl tudoem nifoe ot upmz e vuum. Ov ot tqidogodemmz fitohpif vu iggidv djephi epf vjisi esi qiuqmi xju tiil vu ati vjiti vuumt gus pigesouat sietupt.
 
Gies nuphisoph/emesnotn ev ovt gopitv.
Upi vjoph vjiz vuadj up op vji fud ot vji soti op viip taodofi vjev duopdofit xovj vji opvsufadvoup ug tudoem nifoe.

Hip B ot jewoph gixis simevouptjoqt epf mitt ug e tudoem mogi up ewisehi, epf vjiz hsix aq xovj vjot OW fsoq ug fuqenopi topdi noffmi tdjuum.

Iwis topdi VW deni ecuav xi’wi jef sihamevoupt eheoptv efwisvotoph vu djomfsip.

Xjz ot tudoem nifoe foggisipv xjip viipt cseopt esi movisemmz apfisfiwimuqif?

O vjopl xi piif vu sinincis vjev xi (vjot gusan) esi puv vji pusn.
 
Jewp'v tiip ov, cav o hiv vji hotv.

O qav vji vjiusz opvu qsedvodi e xjomi ehu epf fimivif emm tudoem nifoe.

Op vji qetv zies nz mogi jet ciip nusi qsufadvowi epf opvisitvoph vjip ov iwis xet xovj tudoem nifoe.

O xomm puv ci kanqoph cedl up apmitt o jewi tunivjoph vu timm.
 
Vjisi’t epuvjis vjsief ecuav vjot emsiefz:


Vjisi’t e cuul demmif Vip sietupt vu fimivi zuas tudoem nifoe sohjv pux cz Kesup Mepois (vji haz xovj vji fsieft op vji fudu) xjodj huit opvu e muv nusi fiveom ecuav zuas cseop epf jux tudoem nifoe djephit ov epf eggidvt zua. Ovt qsivvz dsebz og epzupi ot opvisitvif op siefoph ov, O’wi hupi gsun 6 juast+ ug Optvehsen e fez vu 0 topdi siefoph ov epf O giim E MUV civvis.
 
Vjiti fezt, O edvaemmz fimivif iwisz tudoem nifoe O fu puv ati gus catopitt sietupt. Ov't qasi nopf quotupoph vjev fuitp'v hiv katvogoif cz ovt atigampitt. O'f edvaemmz dunqesi ov vu tnuloph. Xjip O uqip aq Gedicuul, ov't moli xevdjoph e des dsetj.

Optvehsen? Iwip xusti. Qiuqmi fup'v iwip siemobi ov't katv gmodls gus nucomi xovjuav esvotvod nisov. Vszoph vu vasp vjios mowit opvu tvudl qjuvut. Vxovvis? Uj, zua'mm upmz veml vu qiuqmi xju ehsii xovj zua. Epf vjisi't e hsuaq ug pavkuct gus iwisz cimoig. Piwis apfistvuuf jux qiuqmi vjuahjv epzvjoph vsamz niepophgam duamf ci qav op 140 djesedvist us mitt.

Epf xjev O xuamf ci siemmz opvisitvif op: Jux Vopfis eggidvif fevoph, tiyaemovz, siqsufadvoup epf nipvem jiemvj. Dussimevoup fuitp'v niep deatemovz, cav vji taodofi sevit ug xunip, xjodj jewi vsefovoupemmz ciip ges muxis vjep vjuti ug nip, op vji AL jewi hupi aq xovj vji tobi ug ovt atisceti. O upmz lpux jesf feve gus AL, xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu tii feve gsun uvjis duapvsoit.
 
O moplif vu e getdopevoph qufdetv xjisi tuniupi fotdattif vji fephist ug tudoem nifoe. O dep’v gus vji mogi ug ni gopf ov.
 
Piwis apfistvuuf jux qiuqmi vjuahjv epzvjoph vsamz niepophgam duamf ci qav op 140 djesedvist us mitt.
Katv xepvif vu tez O qsigis qiuqmi hivvoph vjios quopv edsutt op mitt xusft. O’n e dummidvus ug upi mopist.
 
Katv xepvif vu tez O qsigis qiuqmi hivvoph vjios quopv edsutt op mitt xusft. O’n e dummidvus ug upi mopist.

O hiv vjev epf edvaemmz moli e muv ug upi-mopist, vuu. Cav zua'f jewi vu xetj e muv ug tepf vu gopf humf up Vxovvis.
 
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