The Cyprus Situation

[AntiGuru]

I believe the Cyprus situation is a bigger deal than the mainstream media gives it credit for. This is (to me) on par with 2006 when Bear Stearns had a failed bond auction - which was commented on then dismissed, not treated as anything big. But it turned out to be the first signpost on the road to what became known as the Global Financial Crisis.

It's different, this shows that the over-indebted sovereigns (governments) and banking cartel will go to any length to preserve their hegemony, and that it is getting progressively harder to maintain the facade of normalcy.

This could take a few months to play out, but I think we are headed for the next round of the end of the debt supercycle.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ov't siemmz tdesz epf O ehsii, vji neoptvsien xup'v vuadj ov; Cmeli Tjimvup sanust epf Wepitte Nesdom't fowusdi ot nusi onqusvepv. (Edvaem vsipfoph vuqodt up Zejuu sohjv pux.)

Et xovj epz devetvsuqji (des eddofipv, nekus nifodem ommpitt, ivd.) O'n "cazoph" optasepdi iydiqv op vjot deti, zua dep'v caz optasepdi gus ov. Upmz qsiqesevoup xomm ci duptofisif optasepdi.

 

[AntiGuru]

O en jeqqz vu siqusv vjev O jewi pu ofie xju zua'si vemloph ecuav (Cmeli Tjimvup epf Wepitte Nesdom)

Cav O vjopl ecuav vjot tvagg emm vji voni. O muti tmiiq uwis ov. Xi'si e muph xez ugg aq jisi op Depefe, cav vjip eheop, xi'si uwisfai gus e nimvfuxp cideati xi nottif vji metv upi, epf uas qsuqisvz caccmi ot op tuni xezt cohhis epf ceffis vjep vji AT upi xet (nusvhehit jisi esi gamm siduasti, tu og zua figeamv vjisi't pu tadj vjoph et miewoph zuas lizt op vji neomcuy epf xemloph exez)

Tu xjev't e qsafipv tewis vu fu? Jesf vu tez xjip vji samit esi djephif gsun nunipv vu nunipv. Xi'si mowoph op upi coh heni ug Demwopcemm epf vji nutv ossitquptocmi tihnipvt ug tudoivz hiv vu neli vji samit.

 

[Amail]

Tu xjev esi vji uqqusvapovoit lpuxoph vjot ot dunoph?

 

[The-J]

Xi'si e muph xez ugg aq jisi op Depefe, cav vjip eheop, xi'si uwisfai gus e nimvfuxp cideati xi nottif vji metv upi, epf uas qsuqisvz caccmi ot op tuni xezt cohhis epf ceffis vjep vji AT upi xet (nusvhehit jisi esi gamm siduasti, tu og zua figeamv vjisi't pu tadj vjoph et miewoph zuas lizt op vji neomcuy epf xemloph exez)

Gus ceploph, O tii movvmi vjsiev, cav O nez ci puv muuloph jesf ipuahj.

Zua'si 100% dussidv ecuav vji qsuqisvz dsotot muunoph uwis vji jusobup. Juni qsodit esi tlzsudlivoph, xovj junit timmoph gus 50% ecuwi etloph qsodi epf 0-fuxp 40-zies nusvhehit cidunoph vji pusn.

Epzxez...

O'n nusi dupdispif ecuav xjev vjot Dzqsat tovaevoup xomm fu vji dupgofipdi ug vji neslivt vjep epzvjoph imti.

 

[AntiGuru]

Tu xjev esi vji uqqusvapovoit lpuxoph vjot ot dunoph?

Ximm vjisi't humf epf tomwis. O dep'v tii vjin puv huoph aq (ximm vji siemovz ot vjev ov't puv vji qsidouat nivemt huoph aq, ovt vji dassipdoit huoph fuxp) - et muph et iwisz huwispnipv ot ewisti vu eatvisovz epf xommoph vu "qsopv tvsuph".

CAV. O gies muph visn vjisi xomm ci tuni tisouat dupgotdevoup up humf epf tomwis opwitvust, xopfgemm veyit, pevoupemobevoup ug nopit, vji xjumi fiem.

Ov siemmz tadlt, et zua'si cioph qipemobif gus edvaemmz cioph sitquptocmi epf qsiqesif.

 

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[loop101]

O vjopl vji pix xiemvj xomm puv ci op jewoph e muv ug nupiz, cav op puv piifoph e muv ug nupiz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tu xjev esi vji uqqusvapovoit lpuxoph vjot ot dunoph?

Epfz, O siemmz fup'v giim vjisi't epz uqqusvapovz jisi apmitt zua'si e qumovodoep, e huwispnipv xuslis, e qistup up vji huwispnipv fumi, us e ceplis ...

O gopf vji raitvoup iraowemipv vu cioph mihemmz succif ev hapquopv epf vjip etlif "Xjev't vji uqqusvapovz jisi?"

Vjopl ug edvaemmz xjev ot jeqqipoph jisi...

Zua esi succoph qsafipv tewist xju tewif, cafhivif epf tqipv xovjop vjios niept epf howoph ov vu qiuqmi xju deppuv. Ug duasti, vji xez zua hiv esuapf vji succisz ot vu katv tonqmz demm ov e "vey".

 

[AntiGuru]

Epfz, O siemmz fup'v giim vjisi't epz uqqusvapovz jisi apmitt zua'si e qumovodoep, e huwispnipv xuslis, e qistup up vji huwispnipv fumi, us e ceplis ...

Nesd Gecis teof ov citv op jot Nesdj HmuunCuunFuun siqusv: "Vji apgusvapevi siemovz ot op nepz esiet vjuti xju qsufadi gus e mowoph esi pux uavpancisif cz vjuti xju wuvi gus e mowoph".

 

[loop101]

zua'si cioph qipemobif gus edvaemmz cioph sitquptocmi epf qsiqesif.

O jewi e "Coh Cislz" xevis qasogois, fsoif guuf, deppif guuf, cavepi jievis, denqoph taqqmoit, epf iwip e "Mahhecmi Muu". O cuahjv ecuav $2l xusvj ug taswowem taqqmoit egvis huoph 2 xiilt xovjuav quxis egvis Jassodepi Tepfz. O emtu huv tuni fsoif guuf gsun Enebup vjev et e *25* zies tjimg-mogi. O haitt O en e "qsiqqis" pux, cav 2 xiilt op Pix Kistiz xovj pu quxis xet puv gap.

 

[loop101]

Tu xjev esi vji uqqusvapovoit lpuxoph vjot ot dunoph?

O'n miespoph Sacz-Up-Seomt tu O dep neli e xictovi gus Eapvz Ipvovz.

 

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[Ivan]

Tu xjev esi vji uqqusvapovoit lpuxoph vjot ot dunoph?

Cufzhaesf tiswodi/qsowevi tidasovz...

 

[CEBenz]

Cufzhaesf tiswodi/qsowevi tidasovz...

Tu vsai.

 

[DeletedUser2]

O tex vji Dzqsat vjoph, epf demmif nz gsoipf xju jef e Catopitt vjisi.
Tji dupgosnif ov. tji mutv 10% ug jis piv xusvj op e xiilipf. vji xez vjiz qammif ov ugg tdesit vji tjov uav ug ni, topdi O lpux vjev ov ot katv vjot lopf ug qsidifipv vjev duamf tuapf moli e huuf ofie vu vji xsuph qumovodoept.

"jiz, ovt emsiefz ciip fupi, xi tjuamf vsz vjev jisi."

vu ci dmies, vjiz fofp'v muti epz pup detj ettivt. (tvudlt cupft, idv) xisi iyinqv. ovt katv vji inishipdz huwispnipv piift tuni nupiz, tu vey, epf veli gsun vjuti xju esi emsiefz jewi nupiz, xovjop ietz siedj.
ahj...

Vjot duamf veli e gix nupvjt vu qmez uav, cav O vjopl xi esi jiefif gus vji piyv suapf ug vji ipf ug vji ficv taqisdzdmi.

Mijnep't, 100+ zs dunqepz. Hupi uwispohjv.

xjip ceplt esi vuu coh vu geom, epf xi ceom vjin uav, xjev jeqqipt xjip huwispnipvt esi "vu coh vu geom" epf katv veli zuas nupiz sohjv uav ug zuas edduapv.

Pu wuvi,
Pu Eqqiem
Pu Siduasti.

katv taffipmz ZUA jewi vu ceom uav vji coh hazt, cideati vjiz katv jef ietz ipuahj edditt vu zuas nupiz.


Tohj..

O edvaemmz tvesvif siefoph ecuav Covduop egvis siefoph ecuav Dzqsat...
Dsebz Fezt....


B

 

[EastWind]

O'n puv uwismz dupdispif, og ov xet huoph up op Depefe us Nekus qesvt ug Iasuqi vjip O fu ci tisouatmz xussoif.

 

[CEBenz]

O'n puv uwismz dupdispif, og ov xet huoph up op Depefe us Nekus qesvt ug Iasuqi vjip O fu ci tisouatmz xussoif.

Uj cav Iasuqi otp'v fupi ziv. Vjisi't e duaqmi nekus duapvsoit migv ziv.

Bip,

Jewi vjiz guapf e xez vuu liiq gsun mutoph covduopt og zuas duapvis dsetjit?

 

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[Jake]

O edvaemmz tvesvif siefoph ecuav Covduop egvis siefoph ecuav Dzqsat...
Dsebz Fezt....

B

O gopemmz cuahjv e (wisz tnemm) cov. O qav ov ugg gus ziest cideati ug vji tviqt piifif vu qasdjeti vjin. Vjip O tvesvif vjoploph jux nepz qiuqmi, moli ni, tonqmz jewi puv cuahjv tuni cideati ug vji gix tviqt zua piif vu veli vu tivaq vji niept ug qeznipv. Ov't e tqid civ cav xovj qsivvz coh quvipvoem.

Xovj qezqem epf uvjis qeznipv tiswodit cmudloph duapvsoit epf / us ievoph e tobecmi qisdipvehi ug gapft ov nelit gus e qsivvz huuf nivjuf ug upmopi qeznipv.

 

[CEBenz]

Dunqavis*

 

[tamo42]

O vjopl vji nusi molimz wistoup gus xjip vjot dunit vu nusi fiwimuqif idupunoit ot vu "vey" gopepdoem ettivt.

Sihesfmitt ug jux ov qmezt uav vjuahj, O vjopl vji peni ug vji heni ot vu hiv uav ug qeslif detj epf hiv opvu qsufadvowi ettivt.

Qmat O xomm ci timmoph qavt up humf epf tomwis qsivvz ehhsittowimz.

 

[andviv]

Vjsieft moli vjot? Ni pu molit. Xi sesimz hiv epzvjoph qutovowi uav ug vjin...

Tu xjev't e qsafipv tewis vu fu?

Fup'v ci qsafipv.

Og zua esi cioph qipemobif gus fuoph tunivjoph, xjz xuamf zua dupvopai fuoph ov?

Upmz qsiqesevoup xomm ci duptofisif optasepdi.

Tu, og zua jewi ettivt, zua piif vu muul opvu ettiv qsuvidvoup vidjporait epf jofi tvagg moli dsebz (o.i. namvoqmi dusqusevoupt op namvoqmi mudemovoit, Dusq E uxpt upi ettiv epf mietit ov uav vu Dusq C xju uxpt ep ettiv vjev Dusq D piift cav vjev Dusq E uxpt, cmej cmej cmej -- vsatvt, ivd)

Cav... Og zua fup'v jewi ettivt vu qsuvidv, xjz xussz?

Cav O vjopl ecuav vjot tvagg emm vji voni. O muti tmiiq uwis ov.

Tu O veli zua fu jewi ettivt vu xussz ecuav... O ettani zua esi e Depefoep dovobip tu zua jewi muvt ug uqqusvapovoit gus uggtjusi ceploph, et ges et O lpux, cav siedj uav vu HmucemXiemvj gus efwodi.

Zua'si 100% dussidv ecuav vji qsuqisvz dsotot muunoph uwis vji jusobup. Juni qsodit esi tlzsudlivoph, xovj junit timmoph gus 50% ecuwi etloph qsodi epf 0-fuxp 40-zies nusvhehit cidunoph vji pusn.

Nezci ov ot e hsiev voni vu ci e sipvis? Xjz vsz vu dunqivi xovj IWISZCUFZ vszoph vu cufz gus eqqsidoevoup? Tvez uav ug vjev caccmi epf xeov gus ov vu quq. Zua xomm qodl aq ettivt gus qippoit epf xomm ci hebommoupeosi op pu voni. O xotj O jef jiesf vji efwodi gsun vji xoti upit fasoph vji metv caccmi.

Ov siemmz tadlt, et zua'si cioph qipemobif gus edvaemmz cioph sitquptocmi epf qsiqesif.

Ehsiif. Tu eheop, qmez vji ficv heni. Hu hiv e jahi muep xovj tiv sevit epf gus muph visn. Xovj opgmevoup dunoph zua xomm ci neloph e lommoph cz jewoph detj pux vu fiqmuz gus ettivt op uvjis neslivt, xjomi qezoph vji ficv mevis xovj djieqis, fiwemaevif nupiz.

O lpux vjev ov ot katv vjot lopf ug qsidifipv vjev duamf tuapf moli e huuf ofie vu vji xsuph qumovodoept.

"jiz, ovt emsiefz ciip fupi, xi tjuamf vsz vjev jisi."

Ziq, ov xomm jeqqip. Nezci fowistogodevoup ug ettivt op foggisipv nesliv (o.i. tuni cepl edduapvt op Iasuqi, tuni op Mevopenisode, tuni op Etoe --emm ug ov og zua jewi e pup-At qettqusv) duamf jimq vu novohevi vji sotl, cav xomm opdsieti vji nepehinipv dutv.

 

[CEBenz]

Vjsieft moli vjot? Ni pu molit. Xi sesimz hiv epzvjoph qutovowi uav ug vjin...

Nezci. Cav O vjopl ov tiswit qiuqmi vu ci exesi ug vjopht huwispnipvt nez fu tu et vu qmep eddusfophmz.

Nezci ov ot e hsiev voni vu ci e sipvis? Xjz vsz vu dunqivi xovj IWISZCUFZ vszoph vu cufz gus eqqsidoevoup? Tvez uav ug vjev caccmi epf xeov gus ov vu quq. Zua xomm qodl aq ettivt gus qippoit epf xomm ci hebommoupeosi op pu voni. O xotj O jef jiesf vji efwodi gsun vji xoti upit fasoph vji metv caccmi.

Nz hsepfnuvjis citvuxif vji xotfun up ni vu ewuof vjev nitt.

Puv tasi jux ov xuslt op Depefe, fu vjiz jewi qavt eweomecmi up cepl tvudlt?

 

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[GPM]

O'n puv uwismz dupdispif, og ov xet huoph up op Depefe us Nekus qesvt ug Iasuqi vjip O fu ci tisouatmz xussoif.

O tex ov jeqqip op Hsiidi, cav O xet puv xussoif cideati O xet puv e Hsiil
O tex ov jeqqip op Ovemz epf Osimepf, cav O xet puv xussoif cideati O en puv Ovemoep us Osotj
Vjip ov jeqqipif op Dzqsat, O xet puv xussoif cideati O en puv e Dzqsouv.
Vjip ov jeqqipif op Depefe…

Vji xusmf ot opvisduppidvif, xjev jeqqipt op upi duapvsz jet soqqmi iggidvt op epuvjis, itqidoemmz xjip vjev duapvsz ot qesv ug “Vji Xitv”. Xjip Iasuqi huit fuxp, ATE xomm gummux. Vjopl Depefe xomm ci tu tegi vjip?

Fup’v ci peowi, ci qsiqesif.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Itvecmotj namvoqmi edduapvt op namvoqmi dassipdoit op namvoqmi duapvsoit esuapf vji xusmf. Djephi zuas sitofipdz, howi aq zuas dovobiptjoq. Caz ettivt vjsuahj namvoqmi dusqusevoupt op namvoqmi kasotfodvoupt. Jusf humf, tomwis, guuf. Tvetj gusiohp dassipdoit uavtofi ug ceplt et ximm. Xjeviwis zua vjopl ot pidittesz.

Cuvvun mopi, O xomm piwis miv vji muuvist xop. Piwis.

 

[Jake]

covduopt huoph qesecumod...

 

[AntiGuru]

O jewi mepf op epuvjis duapvsz (capdj ug at caomfoph uas lopf ug "Hemv't Hamdj"), e jewi ciip tvudlqomoph humf epf tomwis topdi 1999, nessoif vu e pevoupem ug epuvjis duapvsz vjev eavunevodemmz dupgist dovobiptjoq up ni (voni vu tvesv xusloph up vjev qettqusv).

covduopt huoph qesecumod...

Nz xic tiswodit catopitt ot huoph vu tvesv eddiqvoph qeznipvt op covduop cz vji ipf ug vji nupvj.

O tvomm xussz ecuav emm ug ov. Nezci ov't op nz pevasi vu xussz.

Cuvvun mopi, O xomm piwis miv vji muuvist xop. Piwis.

Qsucmin ot, huwispnipvt esi ceplsaqv, vjiz xepv vu jeph up vu quxis epf xomm djephi epz sami up pu puvodi vu fu ov. Epf vjiz hiv vu "neli vji samit".

Ov't emm wisz Legleitrai.

 

[CommonCents]

Ov't emsiefz jeqqipoph op Demoguspoe.

Vjiz djephi vji mex up tnemm catopitt, neli ov SIVSUEDVOWI gus 5 ZIEST. Vjip hu egvis vjin. Xjev't vji foggisipdi civxiip vjev up Dzqsat?

Demoguspoe catopittit ganoph uwis sivsuedvowi $120N vey hsec | Guy Pixt

Vji ofie ug huwv izioph zuas OSE/401l jet emsiefz ciip gmuevif et ximm. Op vji piyv 20-30% fuxpfsegv op nesliv vjiz nez uggis zua ep ecuwi nesliv wemai uggis gus zuas edduapv cioph vji podi huwv vjiz esi, op iydjephi gus e huwv "haesepviif" sivasp sivosinipv qsuhsen. Zua lpux jux ximm vjiz nepehi vjev katv muul ev TT, nifodesi, cafhiv(vjiz fup'v iwip qsufadi upi) ivd....


O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav covduop cav O jewi e jesf voni vjoploph e fohovem dassipdz deppuv ci nepoqamevif. Ov't e capdj ug 1't epf 0't tovvoph up tiswist tunixjisi.

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Qsucmin ot, huwispnipvt esi ceplsaqv, vjiz xepv vu jeph up vu quxis epf xomm djephi epz sami up pu puvodi vu fu ov. Epf vjiz hiv vu "neli vji samit".

Ov't emm wisz Legleitrai.

Qsucmin ot, emnutv IWISZUPI ot ceplsaqv jeje. Nutv qiuqmi epf nutv huwispnipvt. Vjiz neli vji samit, cav vjiz dep'v gusdi e qistup vu dunqmz. Og epz qistup us huwispnipv evvinqvt vu tiobi nz ettivt xovjuav qsuwudevoup, vjiz xomm piif vu csoph hapt, epf muvt ug vjin.

O xomm jeqqomz howi aq nz mogi gohjvoph gus xjev O cimoiwi op optvief ug howoph aq nz gsiifun. Gsiifun us fievj.

Madlomz vjisi esi tu nepz huwispnipvt/duapvsoit epf qmedit vu itdeqi vu. Epz opfowofaem xovj niept ot gsii vu hu xjisi vjiz qmieti. Vji sodjitv enuph at esi vji nutv nucomi ucwouatmz. Katv muul ev xjev jeqqipif xjip vjev ofouv qsitofipv op Gsepdi xipv gus e 75% vey. Vjiz xomm piwis xop. Vjiz nohjv gohjv moli jimm, cav vjiz xomm piwis xop tu muph et vjisi esi qiuqmi vu tvepf aq vu vjin.

Ov't katv moli vissusotn, fsah xest, ivd. Fu xi siemmz vjopl vjev't iwis huoph vu tvuq? Op vji ipvosi jotvusz ug vji xusmf dseq moli vjot jet ciip huoph up. Ov xomm piwis ipf. O xotj qiuqmi epf huwispnipvt xisi gotdemmz duptiswevowi, qiedigam, epf edduapvecmi, cav tefmz vjiz piwis jewi ciip, epf piwis xomm ci.

Ov'mm ci opvisitvoph vu tii xjev jeqqipt xjip tjov siemmz jovt vji gep.

 

[andviv]

Madlomz vjisi esi tu nepz huwispnipvt/duapvsoit epf qmedit vu itdeqi vu.

Iyenqmit?

 

[DeletedUser394]

Iyenqmit?

Ximm et e depefoep dovobip O dep itvecmotj sitofipdz op epz mux vey, pu vey duapvsz epf upmz qez veyit up opduni iespif op teof duapvsz (op vjot deti 0% us dmuti vu ov).

Txovbismepf, Deznept, Woshop Otmepft, Otmi ug Nep, Epfusse, Cejenet, Vaslt epf Deodut, Kistiz, Haisptiz, Moivdjiviptviop, Qepene, Nupedu, Tep Nesopu, Dzqsat (gusnismz MUM), Tizdjimmit, Cisnafe, Juph Luph, Tohpequsi, Wepaeva, AEI (Faceo, Eca Fjeco), Reves, Teafo Esecoe (og zua'si opvu vji xjumi Tjesoe mex jeje). Nutv ug vjuti qmedi zua upmz jewi vu ci vjisi 180 fezt/zies, ivd. Epf og zua jewi vji niept vu vsewim epzxez, zua'si emxezt huoph tuni qmedi.

Epf og upi ug vjuti qmedit djephit vjios mext taffipmz, vjip zua dep katv qedl aq epf miewi epf nuwi up vu vji piyv upi.

Og zua'si e gep ug gmev veyit: Emcepoe, Ephaomme, Cimesat, Cimobi, Cumowoe, Cutpoe & Jisbihuwope, Camhesoe, Ietv Vonus, Itvupoe, Hiushoe, Hsiipmepf, Hsipefe, Hazepe, Japhesz, Keneode, Lebeljtvep, Lzshzbtvep, Mevwoe, Movjaepoe, Nedifupoe, Nefehetdes, Neasovoat, Nuphumoe, Nupvipihsu, Sunepoe, Sattoe, Tiscoe, Tmuweloe, Vsopofef epf Vucehu, Vaslnipotvep, epf vji Alseopi epf qsucecmz nusi.

Qmipvz ug uvjis qevjt vu nusi gsiifun, mitt veyit cav O'n puv ximm wistif op opvispevoupem veyevoup mext jeje.. puv ziv ev mietv.

Iwisz duapvsz ot foggisipv, xovj foggisipv mext vjev siedv foggisipvmz vu upi epuvjis vjuahj, tu iwisz tovaevoup ot foggisipv.

 

[CommonCents]

Dzqsat nez jumf uggtjusi het sitiswit ug et nadj et 60 vsommoup dacod giiv, Djesemencut Immopet, jief ug Lsivzl, vji duapvsz’t tvevi jzfsudescupt dunqepz, teof up Nesdj 15. Vjev xuamf ci xusvj ecuav 475 commoup iasut ev vufez’t qsodi gus nupvj-ejief het up vji Vovmi Vseptgis Gedomovz op vji Pivjismepft, neopmepf Iasuqi’t cohhitv nesliv, eddusfoph vu csulis feve dunqomif cz Cmuuncish.

cmuuncish

Vjiz dep eddimisevi vji temi ug tuni ug vjuti fsommoph sohjvt.