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Exactly. The important thing here is that I don't think people realize the problem isn't with Dan Lok, it's with this person. Just because he didn't become an instant success after spending what he calls 26k on w.e he spent it on, doesn't mean the advice isn't actionable.

He takes no responsibility outside of saying he should have never done it. The anti-guru interviewing him backs up his poisonous mindset to make him feel right and keep the interview going. This guy is soft.

He doesn't have a winner mentality. He'll likely never make it outside of a 9-5, unless of course he spins up a youtube channel to become the next anti-guru AND round and round goes the merry-go-round.


It's only a matter of time until ...

@PizzaOnTheRoof This is the anti-guru upsell. "I'll show you real alternatives" or "follow-me, I saw through the bullshit and I'm successful, I'll show you how"
I mean I guess...but currently there is no upsell, and he doesn’t claim to be successful.

I don’t think it’s fair to judge someone based on what they could do out of malice.
 

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I don’t think it’s fair to judge someone based on what they could do out of malice.
and yet, we're judging Dan Lok and the like based on what they could do out of malice. But the reality is most of their free content is actually useful and it's likely just the person listening who has a mindset problem. Case and point the guy giving the bad review.
 

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and yet, we're judging Dan Lok and the like based on what they could do out of malice. But the reality is most of their free content is actually useful and it's likely just the person listening who has a mindset problem. Case and point the guy giving the bad review.
We’re not talking about free content.

I’m judging him based on what he has done and what has happened.

DL has manipulated desperate people into buying his products using fear.

DL has used the same tactics cults use to keep people believing in him.

DL routinely causes conflict between the believers and skeptics in his group, even encouraging people to run them out.

DL watches people spend their last dime on credit cards to buy his products, and even tells you to raise your limit to afford it.

DL makes outlandish claims about his programs that lie just on the edge of legality.

DL and his team silence/remove any bad review or doubt in his group.

These are not traits of a decent human being or business man. Dan Lok knows full well what his reputation is and continues it anyway, either for money or a dopamine fix.

A YouTuber with 30k subs does not compete on any level with these gurus.

The biggest lesson Dan Lok can teach you is to watch what he does, and to trust but verify.
 

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We’re not talking about free content.

I’m judging him based on what he has done and what has happened.

DL has manipulated desperate people into buying his products using fear.

DL has used the same tactics cults use to keep people believing in him.

DL routinely causes conflict between the believers and skeptics in his group, even encouraging people to run them out.

DL watches people spend their last dime on credit cards to buy his products, and even tells you to raise your limit to afford it.

DL makes outlandish claims about his programs that lie just on the edge of legality.

DL and his team silence/remove any bad review or doubt in his group.

These are not traits of a decent human being or business man. Dan Lok knows full well what his reputation is and continues it anyway, either for money or a dopamine fix.

A YouTuber with 30k subs does not compete on any level with these gurus.

The biggest lesson Dan Lok can teach you is to watch what he does, and to trust but verify.

That is the biggest lesson I learned being a first gen immigrant in the US: you do not judge people here by what they say, but judge them on what they do and what choices do they make.

If you only judge americans on what they say, then I am afraid that you are going to have hell of a hard time living a good life here.
 

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That is the biggest lesson I learned being a first gen immigrant in the US: you do not judge people here by what they say, but judge them on what they do and what choices do they make.

If you only judge americans on what they say, then I am afraid that you are going to have hell of a hard time living a good life here.
Hey not all of us! :hilarious:

But sadly a good chunk of humans want to take advantage of others...
 

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Hey not all of us! :hilarious:

But sadly a good chunk of humans want to take advantage of others...

I could care less about the 'not all of us' thing, I need to make a decision based on a likelihood analysis of the situation. If the majority of people do things one way, then it does not matter to my decision making process what the minority are doing, because as a newcomer to this place, every single decision that I make need to be made to maximise my chances of survival and then succeeding, it is literally what I am here for. So if the majority of Americans are hypocrites who say something then act a completely different way, then I need to adapt my decision making process according to this sad reality. Of course this also means if I want some sanity in my life because living in a hypocritical world with the said people is very hard on my mental health, it is up to me to find 'sanctuaries' that has people that are not like the majority, which is why I like to read this forum.
 

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So it means you defend people who makes money on stupidity, desperation and/or naivety of others?

Maybe you have misunderstood from this video how people can get in such a situation.

I think he is not just an impulsive buyer who cant hold his money but his is a victim of highly manipulative frameworks.

His state of mind was the same like from everybody else who buys a course. Getting some valuable tools to work with. But More important is the intention of the creator. Do you want to create value for the people who trust you or do you use highly manipulated levers to filter out who is the most vulnerable and desperate you can lead into more expensive upsells with less value? Not even mentioning how easy it is to use frames like "We are a family" "Brothers and Sisters" and "The others are on low Mindset". If you hear it oftentimes you start to believe you are "Special" (or Dan makes me feel Special) and you separate yourself from others who are not "Special" and search for other special people and find them "Inside the Family". Your own social circle gets exchanged by a new one "The Family". Then it is easier to make the next step entering a "Secret Society", "Inner Circle" or call it what ever and from this moment you start to lose the reality. You get radicalised.

Other people outside "The Family" will call it Crazy to signup for a membership you have to pay 2.5k monthly. Inside "The Family" you see how your "friend" Paul (another victim of manipulative levers) is doing it and it becomes normal for you. What is right or wrong is not anymore based on the moral values of the general society or your own rather than on the moral values of your "Family" leaded on the moral values of one person. The Guru.

This Guru is for some people inside "The Family" a real God. This Guru Guy seems to filter out with his upsells who is the real fanatic. Because you always need some fanatics who have diminished conscious behaviour within a group. Because these are the guys who make insanity inside a group looks normal. As long your own perspective is subject to this group you cant find out. You have to think objective. Especially when we human beings are always looking for others what is normal or not. It is also more difficult to leave this Insanity Club.

But how can people get in this situation? How can somebody get from a normal YouTube Viewer to a fanatic?

The first step of manipulation is always your own approval to open yourself up for "New Ideas". If your are really desperate for something like Health, Money or Women....you will automatically listen more to others. Especially for Gurus. And now comes the dirty part. Especially people who are in a desperate situation about something and have a difficult psychological state are the biggest fanatics inside this guru scene. Think about why they used the frame "Imagine: If you stand on a cliff and Dan stands behind you. Would you jump?" It not only a marketing tool to crack the shotgun and see who reacts. It is also to prepare the people emotionally to take a risk. Like signing up in their course without even knowing how much it costs (Jump over the cliff. Trust Dan). It is more fatal that there a people inside this group who have imagined this scenario Jumping over the cliff. Maybe killing themselves and are happy about it because "Dan said so"

I feel sorry for all of those people inside his groups because the more you go to the top of his insanity upsell groups the more you will find people who are the most lost one.

I'm happy for this guy that he could leave this dirty place and I wish him the best. And this Dan Guy is a good example to remember use how much responsiblity we have towards our customers to improve their lifes or to make them slaves to our pockets.

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You made some great points. It seems that Dan has created a systematized approach to filter and target persons especially with a specific profile (rather desperate, get rich quick). Those who fall into his system (especially with these characteristics) are difficult to stop getting into more and more due to a carefully created system of psychological pressure. It reminds me of the case of a heressy/religion I have read about a year before (in "Influence: the Psychology of Persuasion", I think), you people in the USA probably know more: the leader convinced around 1000 people, if I remember, to commit suicide after they relocated in Latin America (was it Guyana?). The system had such a psychological strength that people commited suicide after suicide without anyone stopping it. If someone remembers better, please elaborate.
 

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An entry level sales job would easily pay around $26,000 a year in salary and commissions.

Most entry level sales jobs are happy to train you in prospecting and closing.

It’s hard getting someone to show up to the interview... let alone last 3 months.

From there you could literally reinvest that into a direct response based business and learn more than Dan could teach.
 

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At the end of the day you have to assume responsibility for your personal actions especially if you want to be successful, it's a key ingredient to long lasting success. I hope a lesson is learned here and if so, he may indeed derive some value after all.

That said, these guys are still preying on people who are not really giving informed consent. You reap what you sow on both sides of these transactions.
 

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At the end of the day you have to assume responsibility for your personal actions especially if you want to be successful, it's a key ingredient to long lasting success. I hope a lesson is learned here and if so, he may indeed derive some value after all.

That said, these guys are still preying on people who are not really giving informed consent. You reap what you sow on both sides of these transactions.
People act like the responsibility is purely on the buyer.

Why don’t we just tell people not to get payday loans?

That’ll fix it.
 

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People act like the responsibility is purely on the buyer.

Why don’t we just tell people not to get payday loans?

That’ll fix it.
I feel you on this, the scams are getting ever more sophisticated and it's getting harder and harder to avoid them. Dan Lok is an insignificant speck of dust compared to the real scams almost every person falls for which are: healthcare, education, housing and the biggie: current government.

The game is what it is, if you can't tell Dan Lok is a scam you are going to have to have a lot of trouble going forward , he will be the least of your worries. The economy has shifted into scammer mode at multiple levels, very few people are actually delivering "real value", all is mostly a sales funnel to get you into a bigger funnel and so on.

You can teach people about this stuff, I'm teaching my kids to spot these scams daily and they do with good success but you got to take responsibility first.
 

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That is a 57-minute video. Clicked into a few spots and it just seems like total rambling.

Can you give an actual breakdown?

Also on a side note, this dude is dressed horribly. If you are going to drop 5-10k on a sales program then at least try to wear a t-shirt that fits and take off your massive beanie.

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Okay clicked to around 48 minutes in:

How they came up with the $26,000 lost figure is:
- Spent 2,500 on course.
- Spent 2k on upsell
- 6 months in his group at @200 a month
- Spent 1k on trip

Also added in 6 months without working for 2200 a month.

I don't know where they added in the other 6k.

So he took a course and then did nothing for 6 months.
Turns out he thinks the course sucks but... what did he do?

I am not a fan of Dan Lok at all but these gurus attract the exact people who are attracted to his instant-success-no-work-needed-marketing. The blame is equal on both sides.

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These courses are hyped BS but people got to take a look in the mirror also. What were they hoping for and what were they going to do with what they learned?

This is like seeing someone buy a $5,000 treadmill, then not use it, and then complain the treadmill was a scam.
1) You didn't have to buy it. There are lots of other paid and free options.
2) You never even used it. Watching the treadmill instructional video doesn't count.

I wouldn't call this a scam - it is overpriced content you can get elsewhere for free or cheap.
I'd call it people making rash choices and then blaming others for their own lack of control/effort.
I watched the whole interview. Your assessment is missing a few details from the interview:

The Dan Lok sales system basically relies on two things:
a) Making these people buy into the guru bullshit to the point where they have no one to rely on but Dan Lok;
b) Then offering them the solution for their next step as an upsell (at which point they either pay him or fail).

Throughout the first program they were given the impression that they'll get help finding jobs, etc. Then when it comes to finding a job - the final part of the first course - they're not offered the job. Instead, they're offered the opportunity to pay extra to get into the next course which will help with that.

It's an endless spiral that continues until one of three things happens:
1) The person goes bankrupt and can't afford to spend more money on "courses".
2) They end up working for Dan Lok
3) They realize what's happening and quit.

#2 is the only scenario with a positive payoff. It was even mentioned in the interview that certain employers refuse to hire Dan Lok's students because they were poorly trained.



Also, I think your downplaying of the opportunity cost as not a real cost is wrong.

If someone took your website building course, and you taught them how to build a 1990's website, convinced them that it was going to make them ultra-rich, and they then spent 6 months trying to sell websites that would never sell, then I don't think the blame is on them in that 6 months as it is on the individual that tricked them into believing the course. (FOR THOSE READING: @Fox's course is one of the few that I've heard good things about and that's worth spending the money on; I'm just creating an example here)

Opportunity cost is a real cost that people fail to calculate in with these gurus.

If you choose the wrong guru (95%+ of them), then you'll end up wasting 6 months to 10 years of your life on pure bullshit. That's why these courses are so harmful. It's not just the money lost, but the time and self-esteem.
 

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I watched the whole interview. Your assessment is missing a few details from the interview:

The Dan Lok sales system basically relies on two things:
a) Making these people buy into the guru bullshit to the point where they have no one to rely on but Dan Lok;
b) Then offering them the solution for their next step as an upsell (at which point they either pay him or fail).

Throughout the first program they were given the impression that they'll get help finding jobs, etc. Then when it comes to finding a job - the final part of the first course - they're not offered the job. Instead, they're offered the opportunity to pay extra to get into the next course which will help with that.

It's an endless spiral that continues until one of three things happens:
1) The person goes bankrupt and can't afford to spend more money on "courses".
2) They end up working for Dan Lok
3) They realize what's happening and quit.

#2 is the only scenario with a positive payoff. It was even mentioned in the interview that certain employers refuse to hire Dan Lok's students because they were poorly trained.



Also, I think your downplaying of the opportunity cost as not a real cost is wrong.

If someone took your website building course, and you taught them how to build a 1990's website, convinced them that it was going to make them ultra-rich, and they then spent 6 months trying to sell websites that would never sell, then I don't think the blame is on them in that 6 months as it is on the individual that tricked them into believing the course. (FOR THOSE READING: @Fox's course is one of the few that I've heard good things about and that's worth spending the money on; I'm just creating an example here)

Opportunity cost is a real cost that people fail to calculate in with these gurus.

If you choose the wrong guru (95%+ of them), then you'll end up wasting 6 months to 10 years of your life on pure bullshit. That's why these courses are so harmful. It's not just the money lost, but the time and self-esteem.
I keep saying it..... these are desperate people who more than likely don’t know any better.

Say someone is living paycheck to paycheck, low on baby formula and sees an ad with a sharp dressed man telling them they can earn six figures learning sales with him.

Yeah, they’re gonna click.

If watching an anti guru video gets them to think twice and do their own research then THAT’S A GOOD THING.

You don’t blame kid for taking candy from a stranger.
 

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I was part of season 1 of the High Ticket Closer program. I can tell you it is for sure a 100% scam and I'll share my experience.

The guys who were interviewed by Coffeezilla certainly do come off as marks.

Purchasing the program was my fault, but I can only take so much credit for someone lying to me.

I watched a bunch of Dan Loks youtube videos, I've seen a lot of his copywriting work - both of which are great. (I did a small bit of copywriting myself).

His martial arts videos are also very sound (I did a decade of martial arts and full contact fighting).

He passed the sniff test on the martial arts front, and the copywriting front, why not give this high ticket sales program a shot?

There are 3 coaches total, Dan, Kayvon, and Desmond.

There are going to be a good deal of students, and we are all striving for the same thing-financial success.

You are the 5 people you surround yourself with...

When I did the program, it made some really fantastic promises that I was stoked about...

1. There aren't any upselles

2. After you complete the program, you'll be able to apply for a position on Dan Loks sales team, and even if you don't make that, Dan has TONS of contacts who NEED high-ticket sales people, so you have a pretty big shot at getting a job with one of them.


A lot of you guys are real moody about how people deserve to be scammed for taking a "get rich quick" scheme... well the program promised a job you would land ranging from 40-100k a year... I don't know about you but nothing about that screams get rich quick to me.

Most the people in the program just wanted to learn sales and be around like minded people, some people of course bought the upsells when they maybe should have "known better".

I personally liked the idea of working from home and building a new skill set. Most of my money was made in construction and I have a lot of injuries so finding something that can pay the bills and not bust my body up anymore was ideal.


There is a lot I could say about this but for brevity let me hit the main points:

One of the "Home work" assignments is to make a video review of your experience in HTC so far and upload it on youtube. This is suppose to get you comfortable with talking to a camera etc... but really its just to lure more people in...

Now, if you're trying to get on the sales team at the end of the program are you going to leave a bad review?

When I was on my phone call to interview for a sales position (with Kayvon, a coach who since Dan Lok had a falling out with and literally declared "war" on). Cut me off and asked me why I hadn't applied to the Inner Circle (4k upfront payment... but of course if we got in a few weeks, 2.5k... 200/month.)

My first thought was "Well, you guys said there were no upsells" but instead I said another truth... "Well, I took out two credit cards and I worked 2 jobs to pay bills and get this course, I'm tapped out".

At which point, I kid you not - he literally laughed at me.



I graduate the "program" and start hitting up influencers and coaches etc... trying to land my first job. I mean, there are high-ticket sales jobs everywhere and hardly anyone is qualified so I should at least be able to land something small.

I talk to a few people, no bites... but then I get his guy who does his own high ticket sales stuff... he doesn't have a course but he matches salesmen with businesses... we do a role-play on the phone and long story short he shreds me, basically saying hes glad I hustled but what I learned is trash.

It's been about 2 years since I took the program and if you have HTC on your facebook or Linkedin it is now a HUGE red flag. HTC members were being banned from sales groups back in season 1.

Now, one thing they talk about in the course is that one of our responsibilities as a closer is to "gate-keep".

Meaning, if you are closing for a program, you are only going to let people in who you think have a high chance of success.

If I had to guess, many, many people who took Dan Loks course failed in finding work. I don't think there would be droves of people contacting me on Linkdin telling me for a fee they will help me find a job since they noticed so many "HTC" students are unable to find work.

Did they do a good job vetting people for their program if that is happening? Or did they just scam people knowing it wasn't a real thing?


If Dan spent as much time and effort making a real course as he does putting out youtube videos he could probably make something great, but from where I'm sitting hes just a huckster.
 

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I was part of season 1 of the High Ticket Closer program. I can tell you it is for sure a 100% scam and I'll share my experience.

The guys who were interviewed by Coffeezilla certainly do come off as marks.

Purchasing the program was my fault, but I can only take so much credit for someone lying to me.

I watched a bunch of Dan Loks youtube videos, I've seen a lot of his copywriting work - both of which are great. (I did a small bit of copywriting myself).

His martial arts videos are also very sound (I did a decade of martial arts and full contact fighting).

He passed the sniff test on the martial arts front, and the copywriting front, why not give this high ticket sales program a shot?

There are 3 coaches total, Dan, Kayvon, and Desmond.

There are going to be a good deal of students, and we are all striving for the same thing-financial success.

You are the 5 people you surround yourself with...

When I did the program, it made some really fantastic promises that I was stoked about...

1. There aren't any upselles

2. After you complete the program, you'll be able to apply for a position on Dan Loks sales team, and even if you don't make that, Dan has TONS of contacts who NEED high-ticket sales people, so you have a pretty big shot at getting a job with one of them.


A lot of you guys are real moody about how people deserve to be scammed for taking a "get rich quick" scheme... well the program promised a job you would land ranging from 40-100k a year... I don't know about you but nothing about that screams get rich quick to me.

Most the people in the program just wanted to learn sales and be around like minded people, some people of course bought the upsells when they maybe should have "known better".

I personally liked the idea of working from home and building a new skill set. Most of my money was made in construction and I have a lot of injuries so finding something that can pay the bills and not bust my body up anymore was ideal.


There is a lot I could say about this but for brevity let me hit the main points:

One of the "Home work" assignments is to make a video review of your experience in HTC so far and upload it on youtube. This is suppose to get you comfortable with talking to a camera etc... but really its just to lure more people in...

Now, if you're trying to get on the sales team at the end of the program are you going to leave a bad review?

When I was on my phone call to interview for a sales position (with Kayvon, a coach who since Dan Lok had a falling out with and literally declared "war" on). Cut me off and asked me why I hadn't applied to the Inner Circle (4k upfront payment... but of course if we got in a few weeks, 2.5k... 200/month.)

My first thought was "Well, you guys said there were no upsells" but instead I said another truth... "Well, I took out two credit cards and I worked 2 jobs to pay bills and get this course, I'm tapped out".

At which point, I kid you not - he literally laughed at me.



I graduate the "program" and start hitting up influencers and coaches etc... trying to land my first job. I mean, there are high-ticket sales jobs everywhere and hardly anyone is qualified so I should at least be able to land something small.

I talk to a few people, no bites... but then I get his guy who does his own high ticket sales stuff... he doesn't have a course but he matches salesmen with businesses... we do a role-play on the phone and long story short he shreds me, basically saying hes glad I hustled but what I learned is trash.

It's been about 2 years since I took the program and if you have HTC on your facebook or Linkedin it is now a HUGE red flag. HTC members were being banned from sales groups back in season 1.

Now, one thing they talk about in the course is that one of our responsibilities as a closer is to "gate-keep".

Meaning, if you are closing for a program, you are only going to let people in who you think have a high chance of success.

If I had to guess, many, many people who took Dan Loks course failed in finding work. I don't think there would be droves of people contacting me on Linkdin telling me for a fee they will help me find a job since they noticed so many "HTC" students are unable to find work.

Did they do a good job vetting people for their program if that is happening? Or did they just scam people knowing it wasn't a real thing?


If Dan spent as much time and effort making a real course as he does putting out youtube videos he could probably make something great, but from where I'm sitting hes just a huckster.
What kind of jobs do the trainees expect?

if you sell investment products, real estates or software..there are plenty of big item sales jobs available.

Especially commission only jobs. Companies have little to lose and willing to hire. I do not see why people need to pay through a guru for such job connections.
 

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What kind of jobs do the trainees expect?

if you sell investment products, real estates or software..there are plenty of big item sales jobs available.

Especially commission only jobs. Companies have little to lose and willing to hire. I do not see why people need to pay through a guru for such job connections.
I guess if I cherry picked one benefit, pretended like that was the whole reason someone would join, and ignored the rest, I wouldn't see why either.
 

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I guess if I cherry picked one benefit, pretended like that was the whole reason someone would join, and ignored the rest, I wouldn't see why either.
There is no lead to look for companies to sign commission only sales deals when there are already plenty offers out there.
 

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I am puzzled when Dan Lok students say they cannot find sales job.

Commission only sales jobs is a job seekers’ market. They seldom reject applicants. These companies sometimes pay you to join them.
 

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I am puzzled when Dan Lok students say they cannot find sales job.

Commission only sales jobs is a job seekers’ market. They seldom reject applicants. These companies sometimes pay you to join them.
You are only suppose to work jobs with inbound warm leads. That are 2.5k+ a sale of the product.

When one of the students asked Dan specifically said to avoid jobs that involve cold calling because we weren't trained for that.
 

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You are only suppose to work jobs with inbound warm leads. That are 2.5k+ a sale of the product.

When one of the students asked Dan specifically said to avoid jobs that involve cold calling because we weren't trained for that.
Ah I see. Dan only asks for students to work as in bound sales person.

But the real money is in out bound sales because the hard part about sales is prospecting and will always be. That’s why companies pay a large commission for outbound sales closure. They hire as many people as they can because it js commission only.

In bound sales is low commission high volume-quite the opposite of high ticket sales. You are paid a basic salary, minimal commission per deal and an enormous high target to hit. Six months later you do not make the numbers you are out. The logic is since interested prospects come to you in mass numbers you are expected to close many easily.

Cold calling prospecting is an essential skill in sales if you want to make the money. Realtors who do door to door looking for opportunities didn't expect customers to looks for them to buy a flat.

Working with warm leads are easiest. But everyone knows that. The market knows that too. Quality leads are hard to come these days. Even if companies spent money and purchased the leads most of them are ones of low quality.
 

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The nice thing about all of this is that it has given me a new understanding of the online "guru" scammers. Dan appears to have "de-evolved" into an online "guru" scammer. I bought and read his book FU Money and thought that it had a few nuggets in it but all in all most of these books, including his, are sales pitches to get you, at least, on their email list and give them the "I am a published author." credibility.
If you want to learn from someone who is successful make sure the thing they are successful at is more than selling online success courses, unless that is what you want to learn how to do...yuck.
I look for people who have become successful on their own merits and skills. People like Richard Branson (Virgin), Jeff Bezos (Amazon), John Paul Jones DeJoria (Paul Mitchell, Patron) and of course M. J. Demarco. M.J. has a recommended book list and I am SURE if you invested and read all those books you would be FAR better off than paying $10,000.00 for a useless "guru" course and it would cost you a fraction of the cost. BTW you can buy the books second hand on eBay for a huge discount for the most part.
Bottom line, follow and model the people who have created "Real" wealth, have brought real value to the market and then become like them but in your own unique way. It is so worth it! All the best.
 

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I always advise people to be careful when joining these program mostly those Guru who are showing you easy ways to make money online,look at all the videos on Youtube everyone proud of this business,mine is the best,mine is the best where no one show you challenges you face while earning this Money. Programs with physical product are always good for beginners when you learn,
. understand your product,
. how to reach the right audience
. how to capture your clients attention to your capture page
. follow up then close
. duplicate this to your business partners that is how you generate repeated income online
 

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