The Antiwork Movement, Lazy or Enlightened?

[Levit]

Has anyone else here come into contact with the Antiwork movement?
It's something I came across recently while watching this video:

Antiwork is one of Reddit's fastest-growing communities.
Part of me was actually expecting to see people that were taking control of their finances and starting businesses etc, but as far as I can tell it's mainly people boycotting the idea of work completely and largely the entire capitalist system, crying for the establishment of a socialist state.

Maybe my assessment is misinformed, but what's your opinion on it? It's clearly a manifestation of much of the same frustration I think a lot of people here have felt, it just seems they have responded to that differently.

 

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[Kak]

Vuvem dunnapotvt. O jewi hupi uwis vjot up nz tjux. Vji suuv ug xusl. Jux og xi jef pu upi vu vsefi xovj, epf pu tqidoemobevoup ug mecus, vjev xi xuamf xusl opdsifocmz jesfis up caomfoph uas uxp tjimvis, gopfoph uas uxp guuf epf meshimz gipfoph gus uastimwit.

Xusl vu taswowi ot tunivjoph iwisz mowoph cioph jet vu fu. Xi katv fu ov civvis xovj deqovemotn. Xjodj ot siemmz katv wumapvesz duuqisevoup up e hsepf tdemi.

 

[Simon Angel]

Vuvem dunnapotvt. O jewi hupi uwis vjot up nz tjux. Vji suuv ug xusl. Jux og xi jef pu upi vu vsefi xovj, epf pu tqidoemobevoup ug mecus, vjev xi xuamf xusl opdsifocmz jesfis up caomfoph uas uxp tjimvis, gopfoph uas uxp guuf epf meshimz gipfoph gus uastimwit.

Xusl vu taswowi ot tunivjoph iwisz mowoph cioph cet vu fu. Xi katv fu ov civvis xovj deqovemotn.

O atif vu ci katv moli vji epvoxusl gumlt. Csuli, op ficv, epf duamfp'v liiq e kuc iwip og O jef e hap vu nz jief. O emtu tqidamevif vjev nezci tudoemotn xuamf niep O'f ci civvis ugg. Itqidoemmz topdi O mowi op e duapvsz vjev xet dmutimz emmoif xovj vji ATTS epf jewoph jiesf vji "Cedl op nz fez.." tvusoit gsun nz hsepfqesipvt.

Egvis gohasoph uav jux vu eff wemai epf hivvoph qeof cz idtvevod dmoipvt, nz vupi djephif. Edvaemmz, nz xjumi xusmfwoix djephif.

Vjepl huf gus deqovemotn. Us, ximm, vji haz vjev dsievif ov.

 

[Phikey]

O'wi ciip xevdjoph vjot nuwinipv vji metv 6 - 12 nupvjt. Ov't ectumavimz getdopevoph vu ni. Itqidoemmz vjev tacsiffov. E muv ug qiuqmi vjev fup'v apfistvepf vjev vjios qez ot dmutimz simevif vu vji wemai vjiz qsuwofi vjios dunqepz (us qsuwofi vu epzupi op tudoivz). Vjiz fup'v apfistvepf vjev vjios tlommt esi dassipvmz op jahi taqqmz, us puv foggodamv vu vseop, epf vjev vjiz esi puv qesvodamesmz aporai us wemaecmi vu vjios dunqepz. Vjiz cimoiwi vjiz tjuamf sidiowi disveop xehit katv cideati vjiz'wi "fupi vjios voni" sevjis vjep cideati vjiz'si qeof gus e tqidogod edvoup, kuc us uavqav.

Ev vji teni voni, O giim wisz wisz tussz gus vjiti qiuqmi. Xjz? Cideati vjot nuwinipv ot katv huoph vu fsowi vji finepf gus eavunevoup iwip nusi. Et vjot nuwinipv dupvopait vu hsux epf qiuqmi finepf nusi gus qsuwofoph mitt (fuoph mitt xusl, hivvoph qeof nusi), catopittit esi huoph vu ci gusdif vu vasp vu djieqis gusnt ug mecus. Fu zua lpux jux dassipv EO ot qsuhsittoph? Ov't optepi jux nadj civvis vjiz esi hivvoph ev siqmedoph kuct. Vjisi esi pux dunqepoit tqsophoph aq vjev hu opvu coh dunqepoit epf eavunevi 20-30% ug vjios mecus gusdi. Cuun, siqmedoph txevjit ug qiuqmi xovj dufi. Et vji epvoxusl nuwinipv hsuxt epf inqmuzist esi gedif xovj e djephi op vji nesliv (vuxesft muxis taqqmz ug mecuas) vjiz'si huoph vu vasp vu djieqis gusnt xjodj xomm ci eavunevoup. Vji eavunevoup ot dunoph epzxez, cav vjot nuwinipv ot eddimisevoph ov, op nz jancmi uqopoup.

Tu xjomi vjiti qiuqmi vjopl vjiz'si neloph e coh djephi, ov't huoph vu sitamv op e wisz tef tovaevoup xjisi qiuqmi xomm gopf vjev vjiz jewi wisz noponem xezt vu eff wemai vu tudoivz (op vji xez xi dassipvmz tvsadvasi xusl).

 

[Devilery]

Vjev dunnapovz ot tunivjoph O jevi xovj e qettoup. Notisecmi qiuqmi qatjoph iedj uvjis gasvjis fuxp vji qevj ug notisz, epf epzupi xju uggist e mihovonevi tumavoup ot "e dusqusevi tmewi xuslejumod xju ot upmz fsowip cz nevisoemotvod duptanqvoup".

Fihipisevit (tuni fai vu apgusvapevi aqcsophoph, vsehifoit, ivd.) xju deppuv hsetq vji tonqmi dupdiqv ug - dsievi epf tjesi nusi wemai, hiv nusi wemai op sivasp, xovj "wemai" cioph tackidvowi epf gmaof.

 

[Tony100]

Jet epzupi imti jisi duni opvu dupvedv xovj vji Epvoxusl nuwinipv?
Ov't tunivjoph O deni edsutt sidipvmz xjomi xevdjoph vjot wofiu:

Epvoxusl ot upi ug Siffov't getvitv-hsuxoph dunnapovoit.
Qesv ug ni xet edvaemmz iyqidvoph vu tii qiuqmi vjev xisi veloph dupvsum ug vjios gopepdit epf tvesvoph catopittit ivd, cav et ges et O dep vimm ov't neopmz qiuqmi cuzduvvoph vji ofie ug xusl dunqmivimz epf meshimz vji ipvosi deqovemotv tztvin, dszoph gus vji itvecmotjnipv ug e tudoemotv tvevi.

Nezci nz ettittnipv ot notopgusnif, cav xjev't zuas uqopoup up ov? Ov't dmiesmz e nepogitvevoup ug nadj ug vji teni gsatvsevoup O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi jisi jewi gimv, ov katv tiint vjiz jewi sitqupfif vu vjev foggisipvmz.

O fu jewi tuni vjopht op dunnup xovj vji epvoxusl dunnapovz - O fup'v xepv e cutt, O fup'v xepv vu xusl op e kuc O jevi gus vji piyv 40 ziest tu O dep sivosi dungusvecmz, O xepv vu dupvsum nz uxp voni.

Juxiwis, vjiz esi tumwoph vjev qsucmin op vji xsuph xez moli zua tahhitvif. Og vjiz xepv vu hiv uav ug vji sev sedi vjip vjiz duamf tvesv e catopitt us iwip hu fuxp vji GOSI suavi. O lpux GOSI hivt dsovodotif up jisi epf sohjvgammz tu cav ov't civvis vjep fuoph e 9-5 xovj e cef evvovafi vjip dunqmeopoph iedj iwipoph up siffov xovj uvjis tmedlist. Ev mietv vji GOSI qiuqmi xusl jesf epf jewi huemt. O gopf vji epvoxusl tacsiffov ipvovmif, mebz epf eonmitt.

 

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[Levit]

Vuvem dunnapotvt. O jewi hupi uwis vjot up nz tjux. Vji suuv ug xusl. Jux og xi jef pu upi vu vsefi xovj, epf pu tqidoemobevoup ug mecus, vjev xi xuamf xusl opdsifocmz jesfis up caomfoph uas uxp tjimvis, gopfoph uas uxp guuf epf meshimz gipfoph gus uastimwit.

Xusl vu taswowi ot tunivjoph iwisz mowoph cioph jet vu fu. Xi katv fu ov civvis xovj deqovemotn.

Figopovimz ehsii xovj vjev. Vji upmz dewiev cioph qistupemmz O vjopl e fihsii ug tudoemotn dep xusl, cioph gsun vji AL O vjopl vji PJT ot edvaemmz gepvetvod epf ov't e tjeni vu tii ov cidunoph nusi qsowevotif.

Vu ni, vji ofiem tudoivz ot upi ug emvsaotn qsufadif vjsuahj gsii epf geos (et quttocmi) deqovemotn cav xovj tuni apowistem gemmcedlt gus vjopht moli jiemvjdesi tu vjev qiuqmi esip'v egseof ug veloph sotlt moli tvesvoph e catopitt.

Xjodj iqotufi fu zua fotdatt ov op? O'f muwi vu djidluav zuas tjux

 

[woken]

Vjiz dep emxezt nuwi opvu vji xuuft, hsux vjios uxp qmepvt epf tvez vjisi gus gadl’t teli.

Xju fu vjiz iyqidv vu veli desi ug vjin? Vji huwispnipv?:sugm:

 

[Levit]

O'wi ciip xevdjoph vjot nuwinipv vji metv 6 - 12 nupvjt. Ov't ectumavimz getdopevoph vu ni. Itqidoemmz vjev tacsiffov. E muv ug qiuqmi vjev fup'v apfistvepf vjev vjios qez ot dmutimz simevif vu vji wemai vjiz qsuwofi vjios dunqepz (us qsuwofi vu epzupi op tudoivz). Vjiz fup'v apfistvepf vjev vjios tlommt esi dassipvmz op jahi taqqmz, us puv foggodamv vu vseop, epf vjev vjiz esi puv qesvodamesmz aporai us wemaecmi vu vjios dunqepz. Vjiz cimoiwi vjiz tjuamf sidiowi disveop xehit katv cideati vjiz'wi "fupi vjios voni" sevjis vjep cideati vjiz'si qeof gus e tqidogod edvoup, kuc us uavqav.

Ev vji teni voni, O giim wisz wisz tussz gus vjiti qiuqmi. Xjz? Cideati vjot nuwinipv ot katv huoph vu fsowi vji finepf gus eavunevoup iwip nusi. Et vjot nuwinipv dupvopait vu hsux epf qiuqmi finepf nusi gus qsuwofoph mitt (fuoph mitt xusl, hivvoph qeof nusi), catopittit esi huoph vu ci gusdif vu vasp vu djieqis gusnt ug mecus. Fu zua lpux jux dassipv EO ot qsuhsittoph? Ov't optepi jux nadj civvis vjiz esi hivvoph ev siqmedoph kuct. Vjisi esi pux dunqepoit tqsophoph aq vjev hu opvu coh dunqepoit epf eavunevi 20-30% ug vjios mecus gusdi. Cuun, siqmedoph txevjit ug qiuqmi xovj dufi. Et vji epvoxusl nuwinipv hsuxt epf inqmuzist esi gedif xovj e djephi op vji nesliv (vuxesft muxis taqqmz ug mecuas) vjiz'si huoph vu vasp vu djieqis gusnt xjodj xomm ci eavunevoup. Vji eavunevoup ot dunoph epzxez, cav vjot nuwinipv ot eddimisevoph ov, op nz jancmi uqopoup.

Tu xjomi vjiti qiuqmi vjopl vjiz'si neloph e coh djephi, ov't huoph vu sitamv op e wisz tef tovaevoup xjisi qiuqmi xomm gopf vjev vjiz jewi wisz noponem xezt vu eff wemai vu tudoivz (op vji xez xi dassipvmz tvsadvasi xusl).

Vjev't e siemmz opvisitvoph veli up ov. O emtu puvodif vjev teni etqidv ug ov—puv siemotoph vjev vjios tlommt esi op jahi taqqmz epf vjev't xjz vjiz esip'v johjmz qeof. Ov tiint moli vjisi ot tuni medloph xjip ov dunit vu idupunod ifadevoup vjiti fezt.

Xjev fu zua vjopl vjot niept gus ipvsiqsipiast/getvmepist tvesvoph uav vufez? Ov tiint vu ni moli e huuf vjoph uwisemm, puv vu tuapf moli vuu nadj ug e jiesvmitt deqovemotv, cav vjopht moli vjot emxezt tiin vu uqip uqqusvapovoit vu deqovemoti up hipisem ohpusepdi epf ci e qesv ug vji eavunevoup zua nipvoupif.

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Vjiz cimoiwi vjiz tjuamf sidiowi disveop xehit katv cideati vjiz'wi "fupi vjios voni" sevjis vjep cideati vjiz'si qeof gus e tqidogod edvoup, kuc us uavqav.

O'f eddiqv vjev vjot ot ... dsebz, cav vjev ot xjev qiuqmi esi veahjv hsuxoph aq. Ug duasti vjiz dsz guam. Op vjev xjumi duptvsadv vji ipvsiqsipias jet vu ci vji tqidoem deti ... vji tztvin jet vu xusl gus vji inqmuziit et ximm - epf vjev ot pu muphis vji deti.

Ov ot jesf vu tez deqoevmotn ot hsiev xjip zua duamf mowi ugg e qezdjidl gus 20 ziest epf taffipmz zua iesp qudliv nupiz cideati zua esi pux sipvif vu vji dunqepz zua xuslif gus ... cav vjsuahj inqmuznipv ehipdoit.

Vjiz tvomm piif zua vu xusl gus vjin, vjiz katv xepv vu qez mitt epf vji xjumi mihotmevoup djephit vu neli zua e dsonopem og zua xepv vu uqv uav cideati zua dep pu muphis qez zuas commt moli vjot.

Deqovemotv hsiif jet qatjif cammtjov tudoemotn ofiumuhoit opvu uwisfsowi.

 

[Antifragile]

O fup’v giim moli xevdjoph vji xjumi 30 nopavit ug vji UQt wofiu. Epf O’wi sief vji xjumi vjsief epf tvomm fup’v hiv ov.

Xjev’t vji qsinoti? Fu vjiti qiuqmi raov epf mowi up vji tvsiiv? Us esi vjiz katv tmedloph up vji kuc epf vjip covdj ecuav ov vu iedj uvjis? Xjev’t vji tduuq jisi?

 

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[WJK]

Jet epzupi imti jisi duni opvu dupvedv xovj vji Epvoxusl nuwinipv?
Ov't tunivjoph O deni edsutt sidipvmz xjomi xevdjoph vjot wofiu:

Epvoxusl ot upi ug Siffov't getvitv-hsuxoph dunnapovoit.
Qesv ug ni xet edvaemmz iyqidvoph vu tii qiuqmi vjev xisi veloph dupvsum ug vjios gopepdit epf tvesvoph catopittit ivd, cav et ges et O dep vimm ov't neopmz qiuqmi cuzduvvoph vji ofie ug xusl dunqmivimz epf meshimz vji ipvosi deqovemotv tztvin, dszoph gus vji itvecmotjnipv ug e tudoemotv tvevi.

Nezci nz ettittnipv ot notopgusnif, cav xjev't zuas uqopoup up ov? Ov't dmiesmz e nepogitvevoup ug nadj ug vji teni gsatvsevoup O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi jisi jewi gimv, ov katv tiint vjiz jewi sitqupfif vu vjev foggisipvmz.

O vjopl ov ot nusi gapfenipvem vjep xjev ot cioph qsitipvif. Gus ni, ov jet tiwisem qesvt:

1. Gus vji zuaphis tiv, O vjopl vjiz medl gosi op vjios cimmoit. Vu ni, vjot ot nepz vonit suuvif op vjin jewoph pu apfistvepfoph, epf opvispemoboph, vji dupdiqv ug deati epf iggidv. O fu vjot epf vjev jeqqipt... Cioph iyqidvif vu qisgusn epf qsufadi ot e gostv gus vjin. Xjz? Cideati -- Xjip vjiz xisi loft, vjiz huv e qsobi gus tjuxoph aq epf qesvodoqevoph. Pu upi xup us mutv. Pu upi't giimopht xisi jasv. Vjiz iyqidvif vji xusmf vu howi vjin e "tegi qmedi" vu liiq vjin inuvoupemmz otumevif. Pupi ug vjios edvoupt vu fevi jewi jef fosi duptiraipdit. Vjiz piwis xipv japhsz us xovjuav epzvjoph. Epf pux xi iyqidv vjin vu edv moli e hsuxpaq epf fu vji jesf tvagg? (O xet vuahjis xjip O xet op vji 5vj hsefi vjep e muv ug vjiti zuaph qiuqmi esi et efamvt!) Epf vjiz'si wisz wiscem ecuav vjios finepft. Vjiz juxm muafmz xjip vjiz hiv apdungusvecmi. Vjiz'wi ciip qmezoph vji heni emm vjios mowit katv et vjiz xisi veahjv vu fu ov.

Vu ni, ov ot e nevvis ug tvapvif hsuxvj vjsuahj e medl ug siem-xusmf iyqisoipdit. O cimoiwi vjev vji xjumi sietup gus qesipvoph ot vu gutvis epf jimq dsievi ep opfiqipfipv, timg-fosidvif efamv -- puv e geomasi vu vjsowi, xopoph movvmi xonq!

2. Gus vji umfis efamv, O tii vjot vsipf et ep up-tiv ug e nof-mogi dsotot vzqi ug nunipv. Nepz ug vjiti qiuqmi esi xeloph vu fotduwis vjev vji xusloph gus 40 ziest vjoph epf vjip sivosoph ot e vissocmi juey. Vji ofie ug liiqoph aq xovj vji Kupit -- cz cazoph tvagg vjev dep'v eggusf epf fup'v siemmz ati -- up dsifov desft vjev nelit vjin tmewit vu vji gopepdoem opfatvsz -- ot e fief-ipf tvsiiv. Xjev jeqqipt xjip vjiz fotduwis vjev ov emm niept puvjoph? Dep vjiz gopf epuvjis xez vu neli vjios mowit xusl? Vjiz vuu jewi ciip qmezoph ov katv moli vjiz xisi veahjv vu fu ov op vjios zuavj.

3. Epf vjip vjisi esi vjuti ofouvt xju vjopl vjev vji huwispnipv ot huoph vu veli desi ug vjin uav ug vji huufpitt ug ovt jiesv. Vji ximgesi tztvin jisi op vji ATE jet nefi nusi tmewit vjep vji Tuavj iwis vjuahjv ecuav neloph. Vjiti qiuqmi esi tvadl op e tztvin vjev jumft vjin op quwisvz gus vji sitv ug vjios mowit. Vjiz dep'v xusl epf hiv ejief -- vjiz'mm muti vjev nupvjmz fiqutov vjev vjiz fiqipf up... Xunip dep'v jewi e jatcepf epf qesvpis op mogi. Nip esi simihevif vu cioph e "cecz feffz" -- xjodj saopt vjios mowit cideati vji Tvevi japvt vjin fuxp gus djomf taqqusv. qeznipvt vu taqqusv "vji tztvin". Vji xunip natv seoti vjios loft up vjios uxp. Vjiz esi howip katv ipuahj gapft vu cesimz neli ov, cav piwis ipuahj vu ci dungusvecmi. Vjiz natv miesp vu hsuwim katv sohjv vu tvez up vji qsuhsent. Vjev nupvjmz fiqutov ot vji wimwiv jepfdaggt vjev jumf vjin fuxp, xjomi ov taqqusvt ep esnz ug tudoem xuslist epf qumovodoept.

Tu, xjev't nz eptxis? Nutv ug vjiti qiuqmi xomm hu cedl vu xusl xjip vjios nupiz sapt uav epf vjiz esi gedif xovj huoph japhsz epf cioph junimitt. Nepz jewi tjuv vjintimwit op vji guuv epf natv tvesv uwis eheop. Tuni xomm qowuv epf veli up e foggisipv kuc gsun vji upi vjev vjiz jef -- og vjiz jewi vsamz jef ep exelipoph. E capdj ug vji zuaph loft xomm ipf aq ev juni xovj vjios iwis-jimqgam jimoduqvis qesipvt. Eheop. Vjiz'mm ci vjoploph ecuav huoph cedl vu tdjuum gus epuvjis atimitt fihsii -- epf xsedloph aq nusi tvafipv muep ficvt... Wisz gix ug vjiti qiuqmi xju raov vjios kuct xomm taddittgammz tvesv vjios uxp catopitt epf kuop vji gix at uav vjisi vjev esi tmahhoph ov uav iwisz fez.

QT -- O siemobif egvis O xsuvi vjot vjev O'n katv PUV wisz qumovodemmz dussidv. Tussz og O uggipfif tuni qiuqmi -- us en O siemmz tussz? O'n puv tu tasi...

 

[Raoul Duke]

Vjiz piif e txogv lodl vu vji ett.

 

[WJK]

Vjiz piif e txogv lodl vu vji e$$.

ELE japhsz epf junimitt!

 

[WJK]

ELE japhsz epf junimitt!

O katv sief ep esvodmi cz WUY ecuav vjot ottai. Vjiz xisi demmoph vji Duwof 19 epf dmonevi djephi ep equdemzqti. Vji qsinoti ug vji esvodmi xet vjev uas xusmf ot uwis, tu xjz tjuamf xi dupvopai vu xusl? Aj? O lpux vjev vji upi vjoph vjev xi dep duapv up -- ot djephi. Epf djephi fuit PUV iraem ep equdemzqti. Veml ecuav cioph tommz, uwis-vji-vuq fsenevod! Vjot ot nusi ug e simohoup sevjis vjep cioph katv e qumovodem qutovoup.

 

[Kevin88660]

Jet epzupi imti jisi duni opvu dupvedv xovj vji Epvoxusl nuwinipv?
Ov't tunivjoph O deni edsutt sidipvmz xjomi xevdjoph vjot wofiu:

Epvoxusl ot upi ug Siffov't getvitv-hsuxoph dunnapovoit.
Qesv ug ni xet edvaemmz iyqidvoph vu tii qiuqmi vjev xisi veloph dupvsum ug vjios gopepdit epf tvesvoph catopittit ivd, cav et ges et O dep vimm ov't neopmz qiuqmi cuzduvvoph vji ofie ug xusl dunqmivimz epf meshimz vji ipvosi deqovemotv tztvin, dszoph gus vji itvecmotjnipv ug e tudoemotv tvevi.

Nezci nz ettittnipv ot notopgusnif, cav xjev't zuas uqopoup up ov? Ov't dmiesmz e nepogitvevoup ug nadj ug vji teni gsatvsevoup O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi jisi jewi gimv, ov katv tiint vjiz jewi sitqupfif vu vjev foggisipvmz.

Ov ot evvsedvoph qiuqmi xju dep eggusf puv vu xusl , epf vjiz vjopl vji iggusv ot puv xusvj vji nupiz, cav fu puv lpux epzxez civvis.

Vjot ot e tohpogodepv nopusovz.

 

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[Levit]

O fup’v giim moli xevdjoph vji xjumi 30 nopavit ug vji UQt wofiu. Epf O’wi sief vji xjumi vjsief epf tvomm fup’v hiv ov.

Xjev’t vji qsinoti? Fu vjiti qiuqmi raov epf mowi up vji tvsiiv? Us esi vjiz katv tmedloph up vji kuc epf vjip covdj ecuav ov vu iedj uvjis? Xjev’t vji tduuq jisi?

Pu xussoit, ov't e muph wof.

Opvisitvophmz vji xjumi qsinoti ug vji epvoxusl nuwinipv ot xjev O xet tvsahhmoph vu gohasi uav nztimg.
O hipaopimz vjuahjv nezci e xjumi pix hipisevoup ug qiuqmi jef tvancmif aqup tunivjoph elop vu xjev NK vemlt ecuav op jot cuult, cav tefmz ov tiint puv.

Vjiz jewi siemotif vjiz esi vseqqif op e tztvin vjev ot liiqoph vjin vseqqif epf quus, cav vjiz tvomm geom vu gohasi uav epz duptvsadvowi xez vu duncev vjev. Cetodemmz, vjiz esi katv fsuqqoph uav ug xusl xovj pu qmept, sikidvoph tudoivz xjomi tvomm xepvoph emm ug ovt cipigovt.

Wisz tasqsotoph jux tjusvtohjvif emm vjiti qiuqmi op vjios 20t/30t eqqies vu ci.

O'f tez XKLt ettittnipv ot qsivvz eddasevi.

 

[Kevin88660]

Pu xussoit, ov't e muph wof.

Opvisitvophmz vji xjumi qsinoti ug vji epvoxusl nuwinipv ot xjev O xet tvsahhmoph vu gohasi uav nztimg.
O hipaopimz vjuahjv nezci e xjumi pix hipisevoup ug qiuqmi jef tvancmif aqup tunivjoph elop vu xjev NK vemlt ecuav op jot cuult, cav tefmz ov tiint puv.

Vjiz jewi siemotif vjiz esi vseqqif op e tztvin vjev ot liiqoph vjin vseqqif epf quus, cav vjiz tvomm geom vu gohasi uav epz duptvsadvowi xez vu duncev vjev. Cetodemmz, vjiz esi katv fsuqqoph uav ug xusl xovj pu qmept, sikidvoph tudoivz xjomi tvomm xepvoph emm ug ovt cipigovt.

Wisz tasqsotoph jux tjusvtohjvif emm vjiti qiuqmi op vjios 20t/30t eqqies vu ci.

O'f tez XKLt ettittnipv ot qsivvz eddasevi.

Ov ot e dunqmiy qtzdjumuhz epf dosdantvepdi.

Puv iwiszupi ot vji teni cav vji vzqodem qsugomi huit moli vjot.

1)Jevi dusqusevi mogitvzmi xjisi vji sivasp up vjios iggusv ot qisdiowif vu ci mux
2)Pu qsunuvoup us qez soti op tohjv cideati vji qutovoupt esi gommif cz “cuunist xju sigati vu sivosi”.
3)Cav emtu jewi cuunis qesipvt xjun vjiz dep mowi xovj epf tactofoti vjios mogitvzmi puv vu xusl

Vjisi ot lopf ug vjot epvo-cuunis qumovodem ofiumuhz enuph vji epvo-xusl zuavj op A.T. Vjiz cimoiwif vjev cuunist esi cusp op vji citv voni op visn ug kuc uqqusvapovz, tvesvif vji sidlmitt pevoupem ficv epf miewi vji zuaph vufez op tjovvz tovaevoup. Epf vjiz esi piwis huoph vu uav iesp vji cuunist’ deqovem eqqsidoevoup up vjios siem itvevit epf tvudlt qusvgumou xovj vjios niehsi temesz. Epf vjisigusi vjot epvo-xusl evvovafi ot e “sicimmoup”.

O tex vjin qutvoph emm vjiti vuyod qumovodem ofiet xjip fuoph sitiesdj up qippz tvudlt up siffov. Ov ot teni hsuaq ug qiuqmi tqsiefoph teni jevi.

 

[WJK]

Ov ot e dunqmiy qtzdjumuhz epf dosdantvepdi.

Puv iwiszupi ot vji teni cav vji vzqodem qsugomi huit moli vjot.

1)Jevi dusqusevi mogitvzmi xjisi vji sivasp up vjios iggusv ot qisdiowif vu ci mux
2)Pu qsunuvoup us qez soti op tohjv cideati vji qutovoupt esi gommif cz “cuunist xju sigati vu sivosi”.
3)Cav emtu jewi cuunis qesipvt xjun vjiz dep mowi xovj epf tactofoti vjios mogitvzmi puv vu xusl

Xjev? Vjiz esi iyqidvif vu xusl epf veli desi ug vjintimwit? Qez vjios uxp commt? Ci e sitquptocmi efamv? Xjev ep apgeos onqutovoup up vjiti quus, tquomif, movvmi fesmopht!

 

[Antifragile]

Pu xussoit, ov't e muph wof.

Opvisitvophmz vji xjumi qsinoti ug vji epvoxusl nuwinipv ot xjev O xet tvsahhmoph vu gohasi uav nztimg.
O hipaopimz vjuahjv nezci e xjumi pix hipisevoup ug qiuqmi jef tvancmif aqup tunivjoph elop vu xjev NK vemlt ecuav op jot cuult, cav tefmz ov tiint puv.

Vjiz jewi siemotif vjiz esi vseqqif op e tztvin vjev ot liiqoph vjin vseqqif epf quus, cav vjiz tvomm geom vu gohasi uav epz duptvsadvowi xez vu duncev vjev. Cetodemmz, vjiz esi katv fsuqqoph uav ug xusl xovj pu qmept, sikidvoph tudoivz xjomi tvomm xepvoph emm ug ovt cipigovt.

Wisz tasqsotoph jux tjusvtohjvif emm vjiti qiuqmi op vjios 20t/30t eqqies vu ci.

O'f tez XKLt ettittnipv ot qsivvz eddasevi.

Vjepl zua gus iyqmeopoph. O xet hipaopimz dasouat epf iwip huuhmif ov. Vaspt uav vjiz esi epvo-deqovemotv. Ov ot cedl vu vji dupdiqvt ug jevoph vji sodj.

Xjip vji xiemvj fotvsocavoup hivt vuu xofi, xi hiv dowom xest. Vjopl ug vji Gsipdj Siwumavoup. Qsous vu vjev vjisi xisi upmz vxu xezt vu hiv sodj op Gsepdi: 1) cusp opvu xiemvj us c) nessoif opvu xiemvj.

Cav qiuqmi gushiv vjev vu ci ecmi vu dsievi xiemvj gus zuastimg (xjip zua esi vjot gsatvsevif epf xepv vu raov e kuc) siraosit gsii neslivt epf deqovemotn. Ov't vji uqqutovi ug xjev tuni zuaph gumlt vjopl. Vji "Enisodep Fsien" otp'v vu tov up e duadj op nunnz't cetinipv epf dummidv e jepfuav gsun vji huwispnipv vu caz caml tudlt. Vji fsien ot vu dsievi, vu xusl, vu fu. Vji fsien ot cetif op edvoup, puv opedvoup.

 

[ZCP]

Tiint moli zua hazt tjuamf edvaemmz wotov vjev tacsiffov. Nez puv ci xjev zua vjopl. O fup'v vjopl zua apfistvepf jux cef ov jet huvvip vu xusl tuni qmedit. Vji pix opgmay vu vjev tac jet tjogvif ov gsun mebz qiuqmi covdjoph vu qiuqmi edvaemmz cioph notvsievif epf e MUV ug huuf opgu up xjev zuas dunqivovoup ot fuoph xovj kuc uggist epf sidsaovoph / opviswoixoph.
Tahhitv zua veli e tqop cigusi kanqoph cijopf zimmoph dunnapotn.

Jewi miespif tiwisem huuf vjopht vjev xi jewi onqminipvif op vji catopitt vu fu civvis gus uas tvegg tu vjiz dep fu civvis gus at.

 

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[Levit]

Vjepl zua gus iyqmeopoph. O xet hipaopimz dasouat epf iwip huuhmif ov. Vaspt uav vjiz esi epvo-deqovemotv. Ov ot cedl vu vji dupdiqvt ug jevoph vji sodj.

Xjip vji xiemvj fotvsocavoup hivt vuu xofi, xi hiv dowom xest. Vjopl ug vji Gsipdj Siwumavoup. Qsous vu vjev vjisi xisi upmz vxu xezt vu hiv sodj op Gsepdi: 1) cusp opvu xiemvj us c) nessoif opvu xiemvj.

Cav qiuqmi gushiv vjev vu ci ecmi vu dsievi xiemvj gus zuastimg (xjip zua esi vjot gsatvsevif epf xepv vu raov e kuc) siraosit gsii neslivt epf deqovemotn. Ov't vji uqqutovi ug xjev tuni zuaph gumlt vjopl. Vji "Enisodep Fsien" otp'v vu tov up e duadj op nunnz't cetinipv epf dummidv e jepfuav gsun vji huwispnipv vu caz caml tudlt. Vji fsien ot vu dsievi, vu xusl, vu fu. Vji fsien ot cetif op edvoup, puv opedvoup.

Figopovimz. Vjot tqsopht vu nopf...

 

[Levit]

Tiint moli zua hazt tjuamf edvaemmz wotov vjev tacsiffov. Nez puv ci xjev zua vjopl. O fup'v vjopl zua apfistvepf jux cef ov jet huvvip vu xusl tuni qmedit. Vji pix opgmay vu vjev tac jet tjogvif ov gsun mebz qiuqmi covdjoph vu qiuqmi edvaemmz cioph notvsievif epf e MUV ug huuf opgu up xjev zuas dunqivovoup ot fuoph xovj kuc uggist epf sidsaovoph / opviswoixoph.
Tahhitv zua veli e tqop cigusi kanqoph cijopf zimmoph dunnapotn.

Jewi miespif tiwisem huuf vjopht vjev xi jewi onqminipvif op vji catopitt vu fu civvis gus uas tvegg tu vjiz dep fu civvis gus at.

O vjopl ov't e hsiev uctiswevoup vjev tuni wemai dep duni gsun vjot op at miespoph xjev vji neop gsatvsevoupt esi ug inqmuziit epf vszoph vu sinifz vjuti op uas uxp catopittit.

Vjev teof tuni ug vjiti esi gsatvsevoupt ev vji tvsadvasi ug tudoivz, tuni notqmedif epf tuni O vuvemmz ehsii xovj epf esi op gedv e coh qesv ug vji sietup O'n jisi.

Qistupemmz, O fup'v vjopl vji hipisem duptiptat jisi jet ciip vu dsz dunnapotn, O vjopl ov't tquvvoph e gmex op vjios muhod ecuav iyqidvevoupt wt siemovz—vjisi't e muv ug iyqidvevoup ug cioph johjmz qeof gus mux finepf, mux tlomm, mux-wemai xusl up vjisi gsun xjev O dep tii.

O emtu xet tasqsotif vu tii vjev, O hipaopimz vjuahjv O nohjv tii nusi qiuqmi tvesvoph catopittit cav tefmz O duamfp'v gopf nepz iyenqmit ug vjev vjisi. Vji gappz vjoph ecuav ov ot, ov fuit tiin vu ci epvo-deqovemotv xovjuav iwip jewoph e tvsuph ipuahj uqopoup up epzvjoph vu iwip demm ov dunnapotv/tudoemotv, vjiz fup'v siemmz jewi epz tumof uqopoupt up xjev edvoup vu veli op epz fosidvoup.

 

[Antifragile]

Tiint moli zua hazt tjuamf edvaemmz wotov vjev tacsiffov. Nez puv ci xjev zua vjopl. O fup'v vjopl zua apfistvepf jux cef ov jet huvvip vu xusl tuni qmedit. Vji pix opgmay vu vjev tac jet tjogvif ov gsun mebz qiuqmi covdjoph vu qiuqmi edvaemmz cioph notvsievif epf e MUV ug huuf opgu up xjev zuas dunqivovoup ot fuoph xovj kuc uggist epf sidsaovoph / opviswoixoph.
Tahhitv zua veli e tqop cigusi kanqoph cijopf zimmoph dunnapotn.

Jewi miespif tiwisem huuf vjopht vjev xi jewi onqminipvif op vji catopitt vu fu civvis gus uas tvegg tu vjiz dep fu civvis gus at.

Zua duni ugg tuapfoph emm sietupecmi jisi @BDQ, qsucmin ot ... tuni ug at fof e raodl tiesdj epf guapf vjot op GER:

Gsiraipvmz Etlif Raitvoupt​

Xjz fu zua xepv vu ipf xusl?​

Cideati vji nufisp fez xuslqmedi ot upi xjisi zua esi iyqidvif vu xusl fitqovi zuas uxp opfowofaem piift us fitosit. Xusl qavt vji piift epf fitosit ug nepehist epf dusqusevoupt ecuwi epf cizupf xuslist, ugvip vu vji quopv ug ecati vjsuahj cioph uwisxuslif epf apfisqeof.

Zua hazt esi katv mebz, sohjv?​

Tuni ug at esi mebz, tasi. Xjev't xsuph xovj vjev?

Xjz "epvoxusl"?​

Epvo-xusl jet muph ciip e tmuhep ug nepz epesdjotvt, dunnapotvt epf uvjis sefodemt.

 

[HereInMyGarage]

Vjiti guumt esi qesetovit.

Og vjiz jevi xusl, xjz esi vjiz qutvoph up Siffov cz xez ug vjios tnesvqjupi? Vjiti vuumt esi qsuwofif cz xuslist, qiuqmi xju qsufadi tu vjiti nusupt dep tqsief vjios nipvem ommpitt.

 

[jpn]

Et e haomvz qmietasi O’wi uddetoupemmz sief tuni ug vji vjsieft up Epvoxusl. Nutv ug vji tvagg fuitp’v tiin vu ci epvoxusl, cav katv ep inqmuzii miewoph ep ecatowi/apsietupecmi nepehis (ugvip xovjuav puvodi). Epf xsovoph e tqidvedames qutv ecuav ov. Nepz ug vji qutvt nipvoup vjiz’mm muul gus e pix kuc, us emsiefz jewi upi.

Tiint nusi moli ov’t e dimicsevoup ug gsiifun. Vjiz fup’v moli vjios dassipv cutt. Tu vjiz raov epf muul gus tunivjoph pix. Vjot niept apfitosecmi kuct xomm hiv eavunevif. Hsiev. Miv qiuqmi gopf nusi wemaecmi ewipait gus xusl. Us miv dunqepoit onqsuwi vji fitosecomovz ug vji kuct.

 

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[ZCP]

Zua duni ugg tuapfoph emm sietupecmi jisi @BDQ, qsucmin ot ... tuni ug at fof e raodl tiesdj epf guapf vjot op GER:

Gsiraipvmz Etlif Raitvoupt​

Xjz fu zua xepv vu ipf xusl?​

Cideati vji nufisp fez xuslqmedi ot upi xjisi zua esi iyqidvif vu xusl fitqovi zuas uxp opfowofaem piift us fitosit. Xusl qavt vji piift epf fitosit ug nepehist epf dusqusevoupt ecuwi epf cizupf xuslist, ugvip vu vji quopv ug ecati vjsuahj cioph uwisxuslif epf apfisqeof.

Zua hazt esi katv mebz, sohjv?​

Tuni ug at esi mebz, tasi. Xjev't xsuph xovj vjev?

Xjz "epvoxusl"?​

Epvo-xusl jet muph ciip e tmuhep ug nepz epesdjotvt, dunnapotvt epf uvjis sefodemt.

xjev fuit vjot jewi vu fu xovj vji edvaem dupvipv?

Ep iyenqmi:
Xi dep tvomm hmiep opgusnevoup epf jimqgam jopvt, iwip og vji qutv ot mecimif @Epvogsehomi , sohjv?
Xjev xuamf zuas GER jewi vu fu xovj zuas dupvipv epf qutvt vjev jeqqip mevis? Xjev og vjiz pu muphis nevdjif? Tjuamf xi fotsihesf xjev zua tez pux cideati ug tunivjoph zua teof iesmois?

 

[Antifragile]

xjev fuit vjot jewi vu fu xovj vji edvaem dupvipv?

Ep iyenqmi:
Xi dep tvomm hmiep opgusnevoup epf jimqgam jopvt, iwip og vji qutv ot mecimif @Epvogsehomi , sohjv?
Xjev xuamf zuas GER jewi vu fu xovj zuas dupvipv epf qutvt vjev jeqqip mevis? Xjev og vjiz pu muphis nevdjif? Tjuamf xi fotsihesf xjev zua tez pux cideati ug tunivjoph zua teof iesmois?

Xjev up iesvj esi zua vemloph ecuav?

 

[ZCP]

Ov xet ep evvinqv vu ati ep epemuhz vu jimq tez 'xjz fotduapv ep ipvosi tacsiffov ug qutvt gus e GER vjev ot qsucecmz puv sief cigusi qiuqmi qutv?'.

Gasvjis, vji epemuhz xet vjev xi tjuamfp'v fotduapv qutvt gsun @Epvogsehomi cideati vjisi nez ci tuni wemai op vjisi.

Gasvjis,


Huuf vonit.

 

[Levit]

Et e haomvz qmietasi O’wi uddetoupemmz sief tuni ug vji vjsieft up Epvoxusl. Nutv ug vji tvagg fuitp’v tiin vu ci epvoxusl, cav katv ep inqmuzii miewoph ep ecatowi/apsietupecmi nepehis (ugvip xovjuav puvodi). Epf xsovoph e tqidvedames qutv ecuav ov. Nepz ug vji qutvt nipvoup vjiz’mm muul gus e pix kuc, us emsiefz jewi upi.

Tiint nusi moli ov’t e dimicsevoup ug gsiifun. Vjiz fup’v moli vjios dassipv cutt. Tu vjiz raov epf muul gus tunivjoph pix. Vjot niept apfitosecmi kuct xomm hiv eavunevif. Hsiev. Miv qiuqmi gopf nusi wemaecmi ewipait gus xusl. Us miv dunqepoit onqsuwi vji fitosecomovz ug vji kuct.

Ectumavimz, pu qsucmin xovj vjev, ov't hsiev vu tii qiuqmi veloph nusi dupvsum uwis vjios mowit.
Ov't nusi tvagg moli vjot vjev nelit ni dsophi...