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I disagree 100% on your central thesis.
In fact, it's pure thousandaire thinking.
You're describing superficial passion. It's the child's passion with the child's lens. Superficial passion is for wannabees who want to eat cotton candy and dance on rainbows while building a business. Frankly put, it's for amateurs who haven't matured beyond the unrealistic idealism they want from life.
Transformative passion is what drives success.
Transformative passion only comes from effort.
From results.
From self-development, growth, and maturity.
And to the poor folks who are stumbling on this thread, FOLLOWING PASSION IS HORRIBLE BUSINESS (AND LIFE) ADVICE. And most people who espouse the passion argument argue it from a superficial standpoint, and not from real success or from the actual psychological processes that drive success. In short, it's intellectually lazy.
Ah yes, you can *see* yourself a multi-millionaire but you aren't. If you want to preach your version of life-changing success, you're welcome to do it on your blog, your forum, or from your books. But you're not going to make counter-argument here, especially one which I find terribly reckless. (Not the part of being GREAT at what you do [good advice] but the part of ignoring need.)
I don't even have to go far to prove your theory wrong, at least from a multi-millionaire perspective.
There's a guy on the INSIDERS FORUM who is a multi-millionaire many times over. He's Unscripted . Essentially, he's retired. He recently posted a thread stated that he wants to create a business valued at $5M in 5 years with nothing but his brain and hard work. He can't use ANY of his money. In short, this is a man who can follow his passion and not have to worry about money.
The business he selected for his project?
Mold remediation.
Gee, I wonder if he's passionate about mold remediation?
I wonder if billionaire Glenn Sterns was passionate about BBQ?
You see, people who have had wild success to the point they never have to work anymore-- billionaires and multi-millionaires many times over-- know that following passion is just idealistic hooey. We have a passion for the process, the result, and the value we create.
And people who succeed are passionate because the success is what breeds the passion. That's transformative passion-- the adult's passion. Superficial passion is for children.
Dominating your opponent on the BB court breeds passion.
Getting your a$$ handed to you on the BB court does not.
Winning breeds passion.
Losing does not.
Folks, don't listen to anonymous opinions from from anonymous people with unknown track records.
HORRIBLE ADVICE.
There is so much wrong in this statement, I don't know where to begin.
False.
Maybe they just have a passion for being good at something? A passion for providing for their family? A passion for getting rich? A passion for having their own business and making their own hours?
False again.
You give up because you are looking at life through a child's lens, and hence, passion takes on the child's role.
Oh really? How does that go? Money motivates a lot of people. Freedom motivates.
The motive behind the effort is irrelevant.
Could be money, could be to impress a woman, could be to prove your parents wrong, could be as simple as not wanting to wear a suit and ride a train everyday. <-- that was my why, my purpose.
You confuse purpose with passion.
While I agree with your tangential position about getting better at what you do (which itself creates passion) it is quickly invalidated when you say ignore them market, and ignore the need.
It's just plain bad advice, almost reckless.
Failures follow passions.
Winners let passion follow effort.
You'll have better luck playing the lottery.
Legends become legends because they win and they force their talent to results. When they experience success (a standing ovation, victories on the bb court, platinum records) they connect a feedback loop, driving more passion. It becomes an self-reinforcing loop.
There are 428 NBA basketball players.
There are probably 650,000,000 people who love basketball.
But go ahead, feel free to follow your passion.
Can I get an amen?
Actually the forum isn't going to entertain the discussion again, especially from someone who says to ignore the market and to ignore needs. That's a thought-line my forum ain't gonna promote.
Thread closed.
In fact, it's pure thousandaire thinking.
You're describing superficial passion. It's the child's passion with the child's lens. Superficial passion is for wannabees who want to eat cotton candy and dance on rainbows while building a business. Frankly put, it's for amateurs who haven't matured beyond the unrealistic idealism they want from life.
Transformative passion is what drives success.
Transformative passion only comes from effort.
From results.
From self-development, growth, and maturity.
And to the poor folks who are stumbling on this thread, FOLLOWING PASSION IS HORRIBLE BUSINESS (AND LIFE) ADVICE. And most people who espouse the passion argument argue it from a superficial standpoint, and not from real success or from the actual psychological processes that drive success. In short, it's intellectually lazy.
Now that I follow my passion and actually am good at what I do, I am more successful than ever. I can clearly see myself being a multi millionair
Ah yes, you can *see* yourself a multi-millionaire but you aren't. If you want to preach your version of life-changing success, you're welcome to do it on your blog, your forum, or from your books. But you're not going to make counter-argument here, especially one which I find terribly reckless. (Not the part of being GREAT at what you do [good advice] but the part of ignoring need.)
I don't even have to go far to prove your theory wrong, at least from a multi-millionaire perspective.
There's a guy on the INSIDERS FORUM who is a multi-millionaire many times over. He's Unscripted . Essentially, he's retired. He recently posted a thread stated that he wants to create a business valued at $5M in 5 years with nothing but his brain and hard work. He can't use ANY of his money. In short, this is a man who can follow his passion and not have to worry about money.
The business he selected for his project?
Mold remediation.
Gee, I wonder if he's passionate about mold remediation?
I wonder if billionaire Glenn Sterns was passionate about BBQ?
You see, people who have had wild success to the point they never have to work anymore-- billionaires and multi-millionaires many times over-- know that following passion is just idealistic hooey. We have a passion for the process, the result, and the value we create.
And people who succeed are passionate because the success is what breeds the passion. That's transformative passion-- the adult's passion. Superficial passion is for children.
Dominating your opponent on the BB court breeds passion.
Getting your a$$ handed to you on the BB court does not.
Winning breeds passion.
Losing does not.
Now the need route. So you found something that is needed, but have zero passion in it. Should you pursue it? Absolutely not.
Folks, don't listen to anonymous opinions from from anonymous people with unknown track records.
HORRIBLE ADVICE.
There is so much wrong in this statement, I don't know where to begin.
1) Somewhere out there, there is a person that is passionate in that need and they will run you over because they have unlimited work energy due to passion.
False.
Maybe they just have a passion for being good at something? A passion for providing for their family? A passion for getting rich? A passion for having their own business and making their own hours?
2) You will eventually give up because you hate it. Passion is what gives you the gas to work non stop.
False again.
You give up because you are looking at life through a child's lens, and hence, passion takes on the child's role.
3) If you aren’t passionate about it then, pretty much your only motivation is money $$$$. We all know how that goes...
Oh really? How does that go? Money motivates a lot of people. Freedom motivates.
The motive behind the effort is irrelevant.
Could be money, could be to impress a woman, could be to prove your parents wrong, could be as simple as not wanting to wear a suit and ride a train everyday. <-- that was my why, my purpose.
4) Kinda the same like #2, you have a limited shot clock for getting it right, your gas tank is limited without passion. Always thinking about cashing out.
You confuse purpose with passion.
While I agree with your tangential position about getting better at what you do (which itself creates passion) it is quickly invalidated when you say ignore them market, and ignore the need.
It's just plain bad advice, almost reckless.
Failures follow passions.
Winners let passion follow effort.
Legend NBA players followed their passion for years
Legend soccer players followed their passion for years
Legend musicians followed their passion for years
Legend artists followed their passion for years
You'll have better luck playing the lottery.
Legends become legends because they win and they force their talent to results. When they experience success (a standing ovation, victories on the bb court, platinum records) they connect a feedback loop, driving more passion. It becomes an self-reinforcing loop.
There are 428 NBA basketball players.
There are probably 650,000,000 people who love basketball.
But go ahead, feel free to follow your passion.
I walked into the bank, my guitar case strapped to my back. The security guard eyed me suspiciously, and deservedly so. I walked up to the teller and handed her three coupons from my mortgage payment. “I’m behind on my mortgage, I need to catch up,” I said.
The teller nervously glanced at my guitar case riding my back and then grabbed the coupons. She entered my account number into the computer and after a few clicks said, “With late fees and interest you owe $5,253. How would you like to pay?”
Without answering, I whipped around my guitar case and flipped its latches. The teller’s eyes widened as she lurched back in her chair. The security guard jumped off his stool and darted toward me. Expecting to find a rifle in the guitar case, the mortified teller put her hands up. But instead of a rifle, it held a banjo. I whipped it out and started strumming dixie.
The teller put her hands down and said “What on earth are doing?”
I said, “You asked how I wanted to pay my mortgage. This is my answer: I’m paying with passion.”
Passion is worthless. Not worth a penny. Nobody cares. UNLESS it matches up with a market need.
Can I get an amen?
I can't believe we are still having this discussion...
Actually the forum isn't going to entertain the discussion again, especially from someone who says to ignore the market and to ignore needs. That's a thought-line my forum ain't gonna promote.
Thread closed.
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