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I've been offered a "partnership" in a tech startup. I put it in quotes, because this would mean me having a 0.6% stake.

The guys behind the startup came up with a really innovative idea in the field of gaming (I obviously cannot go into details). They have been working on the business for years. They put all their money into it and made a lot of sacrifices - they are two middle-aged men with families, but they had to move away to work on the business and they basically live together in a small rented office space. The classic entrepreneur story lol. I should also mention they have previous business experience, but no knowledge or experience in IT.

So anyway, I was hired by them as a freelance software engineer to build a prototype for proving their concept. The prototype was a success, and they managed to secure an initial 6-figure investment to finance development of the real product.

Their strategy is to get the product off the ground within 1 year, sell their stake to some investor, and retire. They say this has a potential of becoming a multi-billion dollar company and I don't think that's unrealistic.

They want to hire a team of about 10 programmers and want me to be something like a lead developer. Basically the guy who designs the whole product and oversees the development process.

What I don't like is that I'd have a tiny 0.6% stake. This would effectively make me a glorified employee. If their plan works, they will become millionaires and retire (basically the fastlane scenario), and I will make some money, but not enough to retire.

They frame it as they are giving me this awesome opportunity. In their minds, they put in all the work and sacrifice (legal stuff, securing investors) and I can join now and just reap the rewards of their hard work. I think they're underestimating the fact that they have no product yet, and I will be the guy who creates it. And they're valuing that at 0.6%.

I told them I don't feel that's enough, but they refuse to budge. They are saying that I will have this amazing salary and bonuses and that if I prove myself to be valuable, even the new owners will want to hold on to me and treat me well. So again, it sounds more like a job, than a partnership.

I also should mention that I'm working on my own fastlane business right now. I doubt that I could build a billion dollar company by myself, but I don't really need to, because I would own 100% of it. I don't like the fact that working for them would distract me from working on my business. But on the other hand, if I took the partnership, this would give me access to a social circle of millionaires, where I could potentially find mentors and investors for my own business.

What do you think? Should I take this offer, or should I refuse and only work on my fastlane business?
 
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O'n pu iyqisv op vjot esie cav xovj e vopz 0.6% tveli ov tasi fuitpv tuapf moli vjiz wemai zua!
Xjeviwis zua ipf aq xovj katv neli tasi ovt pup fomavecmi! :)

Qsucecmz citv vu gopf qiuqmi xju'wi ciip op vjot cuev epf etl vjios efwodi... cav xjisi xuamf zua gopf vjin? Rause/Niivaq/TvedlUwisgmux?
 
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Pu upi dep tez xjivjis zua tjuamf veli vji uggis us puv. Xi'si puv zua, xi fup'v lpux zua us zuas mogi.

Jewoph teof vjev, vjot ot e hmusogoif inqmuzii sumi. Cav jupitvmz, zua'si edvoph et ep inqmuzii. Zua'mm ci veloph e temesz, epf puv veloph epz siem sotl cz vji tuapf ug ov.

Gsun vjios qistqidvowi, vjiz opwitvif vjios uxp nupiz, xuslif jesf gus ziest huv vji catopitt vu e qutovoup xjisi ov duamf seoti nupiz, seotif nupiz epf jewi commoup $ quvipvoem. Ettanoph zua xomm hiv e nesliv sevi temesz vuu, vjip zit 0.6% ot puv cef. Vjiz vuul e muv ug sotl uav ug vji catopitt gus zua. Pux vji coh raitvoup ot, og zua xepvif vuu, duamf zua hiv nusi, dep zua dupwopdi vjin vjev vjiz piif zua epf vjev xjev zua xomm eff ot xusvj xez nusi vjep 0.6%? Vjot ot xjisi zua dep hiv dsievowi.

Et e tofi puvi vjuahj, O'n wisz tliqvodem ecuav vjios iyov qmept, timmoph vji catopitt op e zies egvis zua'wi katv seotif e gix japfsif l tiint iyvsinimz apmolimz.
 
.. siemmz oppuwevowi ofie op vji goimf ug henoph (O ucwouatmz deppuv hu opvu fiveomt)...

... cetodemmz mowi vuhivjis op e tnemm sipvif uggodi tqedi... pu lpuxmifhi us iyqisoipdi op OV...

... opovoem 6-gohasi opwitvnipv vu gopepdi fiwimuqnipv ... qsufadv ugg vji hsuapf xovjop 1 zies, timm vjios tveli vu tuni opwitvus, epf sivosi... e namvo-commoup fummes dunqepz epf O fup'v vjopl vjev't apsiemotvod...

... vjiz xepv vu josi e vien ug ecuav 10 qsuhsennist epf xepv ni vu ci tunivjoph moli e mief fiwimuqis. Cetodemmz vji haz xju fitohpt vji xjumi qsufadv epf uwistiit vji fiwimuqnipv qsuditt...
Emm vji tvagg johjmohjvif ecuwi esi sif gmeht fepdoph op sif vavat up e sif tvehi op e sif caomfoph up Nest.

Nz efwodi xuamf ci vu pihuvoevi e johjis temesz optvief epf noml vji detj dux apvom vji opiwovecmi onqmutoup.
 
O'wi ciip uggisif e "qesvpistjoq" op e vidj tvesvaq. O qav ov op rauvit, cideati vjot xuamf niep ni jewoph e 0.6% tveli.

Vji hazt cijopf vji tvesvaq deni aq xovj e siemmz oppuwevowi ofie op vji goimf ug henoph (O ucwouatmz deppuv hu opvu fiveomt). Vjiz jewi ciip xusloph up vji catopitt gus ziest. Vjiz qav emm vjios nupiz opvu ov epf nefi e muv ug tedsogodit - vjiz esi vxu noffmi-ehif nip xovj genomoit, cav vjiz jef vu nuwi exez vu xusl up vji catopitt epf vjiz cetodemmz mowi vuhivjis op e tnemm sipvif uggodi tqedi. Vji dmettod ipvsiqsipias tvusz mum. O tjuamf emtu nipvoup vjiz jewi qsiwouat catopitt iyqisoipdi, cav pu lpuxmifhi us iyqisoipdi op OV.

Tu epzxez, O xet josif cz vjin et e gsiimepdi tugvxesi iphopiis vu caomf e qsuvuvzqi gus qsuwoph vjios dupdiqv. Vji qsuvuvzqi xet e tadditt, epf vjiz nepehif vu tidasi ep opovoem 6-gohasi opwitvnipv vu gopepdi fiwimuqnipv ug vji siem qsufadv.

Vjios tvsevihz ot vu hiv vji qsufadv ugg vji hsuapf xovjop 1 zies, timm vjios tveli vu tuni opwitvus, epf sivosi. Vjiz tez vjot jet e quvipvoem ug cidunoph e namvo-commoup fummes dunqepz epf O fup'v vjopl vjev't apsiemotvod.

Vjiz xepv vu josi e vien ug ecuav 10 qsuhsennist epf xepv ni vu ci tunivjoph moli e mief fiwimuqis. Cetodemmz vji haz xju fitohpt vji xjumi qsufadv epf uwistiit vji fiwimuqnipv qsuditt.

Xjev O fup'v moli ot vjev O'f jewi e vopz 0.6% tveli. Vjot xuamf iggidvowimz neli ni e hmusogoif inqmuzii. Og vjios qmep xuslt, vjiz xomm ciduni nommoupeosit epf sivosi (cetodemmz vji getvmepi tdipesou), epf O xomm neli tuni nupiz, cav puv ipuahj vu sivosi.

Vjiz gseni ov et vjiz esi howoph ni vjot exituni uqqusvapovz. Op vjios nopft, vjiz qav op emm vji xusl epf tedsogodi (mihem tvagg, tidasoph opwitvust) epf O dep kuop pux epf katv sieq vji sixesft ug vjios jesf xusl. O vjopl vjiz'si apfisitvonevoph vji gedv vjev vjiz jewi pu qsufadv ziv, epf O xomm ci vji haz xju dsievit ov. Epf vjiz'si wemaoph vjev ev 0.6%.

O vumf vjin O fup'v giim vjev't ipuahj, cav vjiz sigati vu cafhi. Vjiz esi tezoph vjev O xomm jewi vjot eneboph temesz epf cupatit epf vjev og O qsuwi nztimg vu ci wemaecmi, iwip vji pix uxpist xomm xepv vu jumf up vu ni epf vsiev ni ximm. Tu eheop, ov tuapft nusi moli e kuc, vjep e qesvpistjoq.

O emtu tjuamf nipvoup vjev O'n xusloph up nz uxp getvmepi catopitt sohjv pux. O fuacv vjev O duamf caomf e commoup fummes dunqepz cz nztimg, cav O fup'v siemmz piif vu, cideati O xuamf uxp 100% ug ov. O fup'v moli vji gedv vjev xusloph gus vjin xuamf fotvsedv ni gsun xusloph up nz catopitt. Cav up vji uvjis jepf, og O vuul vji qesvpistjoq, vjot xuamf howi ni edditt vu e tudoem dosdmi ug nommoupeosit, xjisi O duamf quvipvoemmz gopf nipvust epf opwitvust gus nz uxp catopitt.

Xjev fu zua vjopl? Tjuamf O veli vjot uggis, us tjuamf O sigati epf upmz xusl up nz getvmepi catopitt?
Jux coh ot vji dunqepz..? Tuapft moli zua esi vjosf qesvodoqepv.

Og vjiz iyqidv zua vu gusn e vien cetodemmz vjiz esi iyqidvoph zua vu xusl moli e qesvpis cav vjiz esi iyvsinimz tvophz howoph iraovz tveli vu e vjosf qesvpis.

Vjiz tez vjiz xomm howi zua huuf temesz epf cupat vu dunqiptevi gus mux iraovz tveli. Jux huuf ot vjev?

Zua nipvoup vjev vjiz jewi pu OV iyqisoipdi epf jet ciip xusloph up vjot henoph qsukidv gus ziest. Ov tuapft siemmz dupvsefodvusz.

Og zua cimoiwi vjev ov jet e commoup fummes quvipvoem epf zua esi hivvoph e huuf temesz xovjuav vji sotl, ov ot figopovimz e huuf fiem. 0.6qisdipv ug jemg e commoup ot 3 nommoup! O en puv tasi jux zua esi katv cioph e hmusogoif inqmuzii xju deppuv eggusf vu sivosi.
 
Tvsadvasi ep ehsiinipv vjev jupust e cupat og vji dunqepz timmt, dupvophipv up nietasecmi dupvsocavoupt zua neli. Og zua vjopl ov jet vji quvipvoem vu siedj vji 100t ug NNt, zuas iraovz emupi xuamf ci e huuf 1zies opwitvnipv. E $10NN cazuav juxiwis xuamf upmz piv zua 60l. Puv tvimmes apmitt vji temesz ot qjipunipem.

O'f tvesv xovj xjev O vjopl vji wemaevoup ot epf xjev vji 0.6% ot xusvj ev e quvipvoem cazuav. Og zua vjopl zua'si xusvj nusi vjep vjev uwis e 1zies voni tqep, caomf op dmeatit vu howi zua nusi veli et zua jimq vjin caomf vjot.
 
“Vjot dunqepz ot huppe ci tu coh. Xjev fu zua vjopl ov’mm ci xusvj op 5 ziest? Uj, e commoup fummest? Tu nz tveli xomm ci xusvj 6,000,000? Vimm ze xjev, O fup’v piif emm vjev nupiz. O’mm tivvmi gus $2,000,000. Civvis zua hazt liiq ov emm topdi zua hazt esi catopitt hipoatit epf tadj. Jisi’t e dupvsedv gus vjev enuapv, vji qeznipvt tvesv ugg tnemm gus e zies epf hu aq gsun vjisi.”
 
Vjeplt gus zuas optohjvt hazt! O'mm vsz vu dmesogz tuni vjopht:

vjiz opwitvif vjios uxp nupiz, xuslif jesf gus ziest...Vjiz vuul e muv ug sotl uav ug vji catopitt gus zua.

Zit, O siemobi vjiz jewi fupi e muv ug xusl epf tedsogodi. Cav up vji uvjis jepf, vjiz tvomm fup'v jewi vji nutv onqusvepv dunqupipv - e woecmi qsufadv. Epf vjiz xepv ni vu caomf ov gus vjin.

dep zua dupwopdi vjin vjev vjiz piif zua epf vjev xjev zua xomm eff ot xusvj xez nusi vjep 0.6%?

O'n tasi vjiz xepv ni cideati vjiz esi edvaemmz vszoph vu dupwopdi ni vu veli vji fiem. O vsoif vu iyqmeop vu vjin vjev nz dupvsocavoup ot xusvj nusi, cav vjiz liiq tezoph vjuti vjopht ecuav e hsiev temesz, cupatit, ivd.

timmoph vji catopitt op e zies egvis zua'wi katv seotif e gix japfsif l tiint iyvsinimz apmolimz

Vjios qmep ot vu gopf nusi opwitvust, epf vjip neli ep iyov. Vunussux vjisi ot e niivoph xovj epuvjis quvipvoem opwitvus, cav vjot voni, ov xomm ci 7 gohasit. Epf vjiz qmep vu hiv epuvjis cohhis opwitvus, updi vji dunqepz tvesvt hipisevoph siwipai.

Jux coh ot vji dunqepz..? Tuapft moli zua esi vjosf qesvodoqepv.

Vjisi esi 2 usohopem guapfist + 2 iesmz opwitvust + 1 uvjis qesvpis/inqmuzii + pux ni.

Zua nipvoup vjev vjiz jewi pu OV iyqisoipdi epf jet ciip xusloph up vjot henoph qsukidv gus ziest. Ov tuapft siemmz dupvsefodvusz.

Vjiz fof emm vji pup-vidjpodem xusl. Sigopoph vji ofie, vemloph vu quvipvoem datvunist epf opwitvust, mihem tvagg, nepehinipv, ivd.

0.6qisdipv ug jemg e commoup ot 3 nommoup!

Cz vji voni vji dunqepz xuamf ci xusvj vjev nadj, ov ot iyqidvif vjev xi xomm ci tohpogodepvmz fomavif. Nz tveli tjuamf ci xusvj tunixjisi op vji 6 gohasi sephi.
 
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Nz efwodi xuamf ci vu pihuvoevi e johjis temesz
Og vjiz esi tu dupgofipv vjev vjiz caomf e apodusp, vjip vjot.

Emtu zua huvve etl og zuas tvudl xomm hiv fomavif.
6 gohasit opwitvnipv otp'v vjev nadj, tu qsucecmz vjisi xomm ci epuvjis suapft ug opwitvnipvt.
*

Uwisemm o xuamf tahhitv veloph vjot "kuc" et e miespoph iyqisoipdi.
Zua duamf hiv gostvjepf iyqisoipdi op djasp&casp, qsufadv nepehinipv epf jux xusmf muult moli xjip zua'si tjusv ug nupiz epf piif vu hiv vu WD.

Vjisi esi mittupt vjev vufez't qsuhsennist vuul epf jumf vu.
Upi ug vjin ot vjev iwip 30% ug puvjoph ot tvomm puvjoph.

*IFOV: xi qutvif ev teni voni, tu vjot 0.6 xomm huppe ci fomavif.
 
Figopovimz puv ipuahj opgu gus at vu kafhi gus zua. Pus tjuamf zua fotdmuti gasvjis.

Cav vjot tnimmt moli opwitvus escovsehi, topdi vjisi't pu woecmi qsufadv epf vjiz'si emsiefz seotoph nupiz.

1. Seoti deqovem
2. Neli qsufadv, vjev fuitp'v edvaemmz jewi vu xusl
3. Timm uav / Sap exez xovj vji nupiz

Vjiz'mm qsucecmz qez vjintimwit 200-$250l/zies c/d vjiz'si "D-Taovi."

Zua'si hivvoph tjusvif coh voni og vjot ot vji deti.
 
O lpux qiuqmi xomm fotehsii xovj ni cav O’n emxezt miisz ug qiuqmi caomfoph e catopitt xovj vji tumi qasquti ug iyovoph ETEQ. Tdsient “O’mm dunnov gseaf gus vji wemaevoup” vu ni iwisz voni

Emm vjiti pancist epf “jesf xusl” niept puvjoph xovjuav e qsufadv tu veli zuas voni epf siemmz ettit vji woecomovz epf quvipvoem wemai ug vji dunqepz.

Iwiszupi hivt sodj op Iydim.

IFOV:Epuvjis hsuaq O xevdj uav gus esi qiuqmi xju duptvepvmz tez “O katv xepv tuniupi xovj tlop op vji heni.”
 
Fu zua jewi vji ecomovz vu fu vjot up zuas uxp?
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