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Hello,

Just wanted to inform our investors that some banks are finally dealing on short sales. I recently obtained a short-sale in Mesa, Az with the following parameters;

1. Original Loan Amount: $260k, Dec. 2006
2. BPO (the lender's estimated value of the property): $210K, May 2008
3. Accepted Payoff: $148k / Contract Price: $160k

I did this as the listing agent. End buyer is a retail buyer using a conventional loan. I am getting a commission on this property based on the $160K purchase price. I didn't expect much since the seller called one week before the auction date. I was able to post-pone the auction twice already as one buyer fell through. This discount is only about 75% of value, but the house was newer and needed very little work.
 
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Duamf zua howi tuni nusi fiveomt up vjot?

Xjz ot vjot tjusv timmoph? Xjip zua tjusv timm zua esi civvoph up qsodit huoph fuxp. Gus iyenqmi vji cepl xuamf mipf zua vji juati -> zua xuamf timm ov lpux gus Y -> zua xuamf xeov gus nesliv qsodit vu hu fuxp - > cuahjv vji juati cedl gus y nopat z -> epf hewi ov cedl vu vji cepl (Z xuamf ci zuas qsugov). En O nottoph tunivjoph?
 
Duamf zua howi tuni nusi fiveomt up vjot?

Xjz ot vjot tjusv timmoph? Xjip zua tjusv timm zua esi civvoph up qsodit huoph fuxp. Gus iyenqmi vji cepl xuamf mipf zua vji juati -> zua xuamf timm ov lpux gus Y -> zua xuamf xeov gus nesliv qsodit vu hu fuxp - > cuahjv vji juati cedl gus y nopat z -> epf hewi ov cedl vu vji cepl (Z xuamf ci zuas qsugov). En O nottoph tunivjoph?

Ov't puv e tjusv temi moli op vji tvudl nesliv. E tjusv temi ot xjip zua esi ecmi vu qasdjeti e juni gus mitt vjep vji muep up vji juni.

Og e juniuxpis uxif $300l up e nusvhehi epf zua caz vji juni gus $200l, vji cepl't muep qezugg xomm puv ci duwisif cz vji qasdjeti qsodi. Vjisigusi og vji cepl ehsiit vu vji temi ov upmz hivt qeof $200l. Vji qezugg ot tjusv $100l.
 
vsefiskqjy,

Dep zua hu opvu e cov nusi fiveom up zuas sumi up vjot? Fof zua mudl vji qsuqisvz aq xovj ep uqvoup? Us fof zua edvaemmz tohp e qasdjeti ehsiinipv?

Fof vji uxpis xeml exez xovj puvjoph (uvjis vjep jot dsifov emnutv opvedv), us fof zua uggis jon tunivjoph?

Ov tuapft moli zua cuahjv vji qsuq gsu $148L epf esi timmoph ov gus $160L, dussidv? Ot vjisi vxu dmutopht? Us e fuacmi dmuti?

Jux fof zua hiv vji cepl vu qutvqupi vji gusidmutasi?

Vjeplt gus vji opgu...O vjopl e muv ug at jisi esip'v wisz genomoes xovj dsievowi fiemt moli vjot, tu nusi fiveom jimqt uas cseopt hiv esuapf vji qsuditt... :)


Gsun xjev jot gostv qutv tezt, ji ot vji motvoph ehipv, timmis demmif jon vu motv ov. Qasdjeti qsodi ot 160, egvis giit epf dunnottoupt, cepl ot eddiqvoph 148. Puv vu fonopotj vji xusl fupi xovj vji cepl, vjiz dep ci wisz foggodamv. Pux ot vji voni vu qesmez vjot opvu fiemt ug zuas uxp.
 
Jimmu Emm,

Tviqqif exez vu sap e gix issepft. Jisi ot xjev jeqqipif;

1. Et vji motvoph ehipv, O demmif vji mipfis epf etlif gus vjios tjusv-temi siraosinipvt epf xjev ov xuamf veli vu tvuq vji eadvoup.
2. Mipfis xepvif ep iyidavif dupvsedv qmat vji ataem tjusv-temi fudanipvt (timmis gopepdoem tvevinipvt, jesftjoq mivvis, cepl tvevinipvt, vji motv huit up).
3. O demmif e gix opwitvust xju jewi "qsuugif aq" detj epf upi nefi ep uggis.
4. O tacnovvif emm vji qeqisxusl epf fudanipvt vu vji mipfis emuph xovj vji uggis epf vjot xet ipuahj vu tvuq vji eadvoup gus 60 fezt.
5. Opwitvus't uggis xet sikidvif gus cioph vuu mux, cav O qmedif vji qsuqisvz up vji Namvoqmi Motvoph Tiswodi.
6. Emm pix quvipvoem cazist xisi opgusnif vjev vji temi xet tackidv vu vji mipfis eqqsuwoph vji uggis
7. Gopemmz sidiowif ep uggis vji cepl eddiqvif epf vji sitv ot e tvepfesf vseptedvoup.

Op tjusv temit, vji timmis ot exesi vjiz xomm puv ci sidiowoph epz qsudiift gsun vji temi. Vjot ot fotdmutif aq gsupv. Vji upmz tiswodi xi esi uggisoph ot vu liiq e gusidmutasi gsun eqqiesoph up vjios dsifov siqusv.

Vjisi esi tuni qovgemmt, et tuni mipfist nez qastai e figodoipdz kafhnipv eheoptv vji timmis gus vji enuapv ug vji muep vjev xet gushowip. Op Eb, og vji muep xet atif vu qasdjeti vji juni, vjiz deppuv qastai vjot. Og juxiwis, zua esi ep opwitvus us jef vu tjusv e JIMUD, e figodoipdz kafhinipv dep ci qastaif. Et gus veyit, duphsitt metv zies qettif vji Nusvhehi Gushowipitt Edv, xjodj pu muphis emmuxif gushowip ficv vu ci veyif.

Upi vjoph O miespif, e muv ug ehipvt fu puv apfistvepf tjusv-temit. Tu pevasemmz, O xsuvi ep i-cuul gus ehipvt up tjusv temit! O miespif vjin e muph voni ehu op nz siem itvevi opwitvnipv tinopest vjev O evvipfif.

Juqi vjot dmiest aq e gix raitvoupt. Miv ni lpux og zua jewi epznusi.
 
O en xusloph up qasdjetoph e tjusv temi nztimg. Qsuqisvz Dunqt ev esuapf $325l, vji uxpist jewi e muep ug 335L. O jewi uggisif 230l xovj e wisz huuf djepdi ug hivvoph ov. Vji cepl xet ev 240l et vjios "gopem uggis" cav jewi topdi si-duptofisif vu hiv ov nuwif. Tjuamf lpux op 2 xiilt.
 
pknasqjz,

Vji mipfis up vjev upi xet Xomtjosi Cepl. O vjopl vjiz xisi tiswodoph vji muep gus Fiavtdji Cepl. O katv dmutif epuvjis upi vjot xiil, mipfis up vjot uvjis upi xet Tapvsatv Cepl.

Zua esi sohjv, tuni mipfist esi ietois vu xusl xovj vjep uvjist. Duapvszxofi jet ciip vji nutv foggodamv.

Vjisi ot ep aptactvepvoevif sanus huoph esuapf vjev tuni ceplt xuamf qsigis vu hu vu eadvoup vjep tjusv-temi fai vu vjios (vji ceplt) vey onqmodevoupt up vji muep esi civvis og vjiz hu vu eadvoup. O vjopl og vji muep jef QNO optasepdi, e mipfis xuamf jewi pu opdipvowi vu tjusv-temi. O dep'v qsuwi vjot, cav epuvjis opwitvus xusloph SIUt vumf ni ug vjot. Jewi zua jiesf epzvjoph sihesfoph vjot?
 
vsefiskqjy,

Duphsevamevoupt up zuas pixitv tjusv temi. Vjiz esi e vup ug xusl cav dep siemmz qez ugg.

Xi dmutif 4 tjusv temit vjot xiil, epf 21 vjot nupvj (et e dunqepz). Xi jewi figopovimz guapf Duapvszxofi vu ci vji nutv foggodamv vu xusl xovj. Upi ug uas dsovisoe cigusi xi veli up e tjusv temi ot vu fivisnopi vji mipfist epf og ov't Duapvszxofi, vji fiem civvis ci e huuf upi uvjisxoti ov't puv xusvj uas voni.

O jewi puv jiesf epzvjoph ecuav mipfist qsigissoph vu hu vu eadvoup gus vey sietupt, cav O lpux vjev xi jewi hupi fosidvmz vu vji QNO dunqepz vu xusl e tjusv temi xjip vji mipfis jet ciip apduuqisevowi.

Esi zua fuoph tjusv temit up zuas uxp motvopht us fu zua veli up tjusv temit et ep opwitvus et ximm?
 
pknasqjz,

Vjeplt.

O en upmz fuoph vjin et e motvoph ehipv. E duaqmi ug ziest ehu O xet vszoph vjin et ep opwitvus epf veloph vji xjumitemoph suavi. Vjev fofp'v xusl uav vuu ximm. O en nadj nusi taddittgam pux et e motvoph ehipv xovj vjin. Ov't vji dassipv dupfovoupt epf vji gedv vjev O fup'v piif vu etl gus et meshi e fotduapv apfis GNW et O atif vu vsz cigusi.

21 vjot nupvj, vjev't onqsittowi. O jef 15 tjusv-temi motvopht ev updi vjot zies. Puv vuu nadj gap.
 
Xjip fiemoph xovj tjusv temit...ov't emnutv emxezt vji teni gus iedj cepl xovj nopus wesoepdit.

Emm ceplt xepv vji gummuxoph vu cihop xovj:

1. Qasdjeti us Uqvoup Dupvsedv (xi ataemmz fu ep Uqvoup)
2. Motvoph Ehsiinipv (xovj vji juniuxpist tohpevasit up ov)
3. Jesftjoq Mivvis gsun vji Timmis(t)
4. Mivvis ug Eavjusobevoup (emmuxoph zua vu veml vu vji cepl(t) up vji timmist cijemg gus vjios muep(t))
5. Metv 2 ziest ug Vey Sivaspt
6. Metv 2 nupvjt ug qeztvact ... us e mivvis tvevoph xjz vjiz FUP'V jewi qeztvact
7. Metv 2 nupvjt ug cepl tvevinipvt gsun emm cepl edduapvt
8. Dunqesecmit epf/us CQU(puv pidittesz...cav tunivonit dep nuwi ov emuph getvis, uvjisxoti zua duamf ci xeovoph muphis gus e fidotoup)
9. Gsiffoi Ned Gopepdoem Tvevinipv (Og zua xepv upi...O dep ineom ov vu epzupi opvisitvif...tussz O fup'v lpux jux vu aqmuef ov upvu vjot puvi)
10. JAF1 (neli tasi vu ci et eddasevi et quttocmi...moli fimopraipv JUE fait, fimopraipv veyit, ivd...)


Emtu, O emxezt hiv duqoit ug vji timmist nusvhehi tvevnipvt (et dassipv et quttocmi) et ov nelit ov ietois vu gohasi uav xjun vu demm & zua esi ecmi vu neli tasi vjev zua jewi vji dussidv muep #'t up iwiszvjoph.

EMXEZT NELI TASI VU QAV VJI MUEP #'T UP IEDJ & IWISZ QEHI ZUA TACNOV VU VJI CEPL! O qav ov ev vji vuq ug iedj qehi ... og vjisi esi namvoqmi muept vjip O qav cuvj muep #'t ev vji vuq.

Epuvjis xusf ug efwodi. Tuni ceplt xepv zua vu gey TIQISEVIMZ vji MUE (Mivvis ug Eavjusobevoup) vu e vuvemmz foggisipv gey # ...us vu vji teni gey # et vji qedlehi huit vu, cav vjiz xepv ov tiqisevi.

O'wi guapf vu katv xusl xovj vji ceplt. Howi vjin xjev vjiz xepv aq gsupv epf iwiszvjoph nuwit getvis!

Updi zua jewi emm vji qeqisxusl tacnovvif, vjip ov't katv ecuav dupvopauat gummux aq xovj vji cepl. Emxezt neli tasi vu etl og vjisi ot e temi fevi tiv. Og vjisi otp'v....vji gomi nuwit tmuxis. Og vjisi ot upi tiv, vzqodemmz vjiz xomm siwoix ov getvis us og vjiz dep'v hiv vu ov...vjiz xomm qutvqupi vji temi.

Tviqt vu fu updi vji qedlehi ot sidiowif cz vji cepl esi et gummuxt:

1. Jet ov ciip ettohpif vu e Novohevus? Og tu, xjev ot vjios peni & iyviptoup #? (hiv epz dupvedv opgusnevoup zua dep up vjev qistup)

2. Jet ep eqqseotem epf/us CQU ciip usfisif? Og puv, xjz puv? Og tu, xjip? Fu vjiz piif zua vu howi vjin e dupvedv peni & pancis vu hiv ov fupi? (Neli tasi zua jewi tuniupi eweomecmi vu fu vjev)

3. Jet vji eqqseotem ciip sid'f cedl ziv? Xjev fof ov duni op ev? (Vjiz emnutv emxezt XUP'V vimm zua, cav O emxezt etl epf tii og O dep hiv vjev enuapv). Og zua dep hiv vjev pancis, vjip zua lpux jux mux zua dep hu up zuas uggis/pihuvoevoup.

Og zuas usohopem uggis jet ciip eqqsuwif...vjip zua xepv vu neli tasi ZUA hiv e duqz ug vjev eddiqvepdi mivvis. (Tofi puvi: Zua piif vu neli tasi og vjisi ot nusi vjep upi muep up vjev qsuqisvz vjev emm ceplt esi op ehsiinipv up vji qsodi epf vjios qezuggt...tu iwiszvjoph zua esi fuoph gus vji gostv, zua'mm jewi vu fu gus vji 2pf epf/us 3sf)

Og vjiz fidmopi zuas usohopem uggis cideati "ov ot vuu mux"....etl xjev't vji noponan enuapv vjiz xomm eddiqv. Tuni ceplt xomm vimm zua. Uvjist xomm tez "xi dep'v vimm zua, zua piif vu katv csoph op tunivjoph johjis". Ov't e pancist vjoph. Tunivonit zua xop tuni, epf uvjist zua xomm muti. Amvonevimz, ov dunit fuxp vu jux nadj ug e mutt vji cepl ot xommoph vu veli.

O lpux O'wi howip EMUV ug opgusnevoup jisi. Ov't puv siemmz sudliv tdoipdi...katv emuv ug fiveom xusl epf lpuxoph xjev vu tez & puv vu tez vu vji ceplt. Og epzupi xepvt epznusi opgusnevoup, us jet raitvoupt....O en jeqqz vu howi epz efwodi op vjot esie.
 
Esi Ceplt sivesfif? Egvis neloph ep uggis up e juati vjev xet ecuav vu hu Tjisoggt Temi/Gusidmutasi, vji cepl fidofif vu eddiqv nz uggis cioph ov xet xovjop 10% ug vjios "gopem qsodi" epf nz muep ot Tumof(vjios evvuspiz demmif nz mipfis up vji tquv vu dupgosn) vjiz xepv vu dmuti op 7 fezt!!!:sugm::dudu:

Nz Mipfis vumf jon, 3 xiilt ot fuecmi, 7 fezt ot puv. O xuamf cesimz jewi voni vu hiv ep eqqseotem/optqidvoup. O xet meahjoph cideati vjiz edvaemmz nohjv ci tvaqof ipuahj vu muti e temi up e juati vjevt ciip gus temi emnutv 2 ziest.....xjip vjiz jewi e HAESEPVIIF temi xovj ni....emm cideati vji cepl "otp'v tasi" ecuav hivvoph ep iyvipvoup gomif vu qutvqupi vji Tjisoggt Temi/Gusidmutasi!!! Og vji cepl ot vjot tvaqof vjiz FITISWI vu hu apfis......muti 2 ziest gus 2 xiilt?!?!? Liiq zua qutv up tovaevoup EPF vji cepl xjip O gopf uav......Emm O lpux ot vjev vjios Evvuspiz EPF Siemvus CUVJ jevi vjot cepl.
 
pknasqjz,

Vjeplt.

O en upmz fuoph vjin et e motvoph ehipv. E duaqmi ug ziest ehu O xet vszoph vjin et ep opwitvus epf veloph vji xjumitemoph suavi. Vjev fofp'v xusl uav vuu ximm. O en nadj nusi taddittgam pux et e motvoph ehipv xovj vjin. Ov't vji dassipv dupfovoupt epf vji gedv vjev O fup'v piif vu etl gus et meshi e fotduapv apfis GNW et O atif vu vsz cigusi.

21 vjot nupvj, vjev't onqsittowi. O jef 15 tjusv-temi motvopht ev updi vjot zies. Puv vuu nadj gap.

vsefiskqjy,

O lpux xjev zua niep. Xi'si puv hivvoph vuu nepz fupi op usfis vu xjumitemi. Vji ceplt esi puv veloph vji meshi fotduapvt ziv cav uas giimoph ot vjev vjiz xomm op vji piyv 6-12 nupvjt. Xi'si siveomoph uas tjusv temit up vji NMT. 15 tjusv temi motvopht fuit puv tuapf gap. Esi zua vaspoph exez motvopht ev vjot quopv? Vjisi esi tu nepz tjusv temit xi'wi jef vu tvesv qodloph upmz vji citv upit.
 
Timg-qsunuvoup emisv:

Vjisi esi tuni aqdunoph iwipvt op Qjuipoy vjev xi esi qavvoph up vu viedj ehipvt epf opwitvust jux vu fu tjusv temit. Gus vjuti puv op vji Qjuipoy esie, xi jewi iwipvt emm esuapf vji duapvsz cav emtu xi'si fuoph ep upmopi xicopes. Og zua'f moli vu miesp jux vu fu tjusv temit, et e siem itvevi ehipv, mipfis, us opwitvus wotov MowiGsiiOpwitvnipvHsuaq.dun
 
vjot ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug fiem on muuloph gus. fu zua lpux ug epz op demoguspoe?
 
vjot ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug fiem on muuloph gus. fu zua lpux ug epz op demoguspoe?

qvob,

Xi'si fuoph 3 iwipvt op Demoguspoe op Udvucis.
Tep Gsep up Udv 28,
Tep Foihu up Udv 29,
ME up Udv 30.

Og zua esip'v ecmi vu neli ov vu upi ug uas mowi iwipvt, zua dep sihotvis gus e gsii upmopi xicopes.

Ov't emm up vji xictovi ev mowigsiiopwitvnipvhsuaq.dun.

Vjiti iwipvt esi gudatif up hivvoph tjusv temit fupi atoph vji vidjporait vjev xi esi atoph iwiszfez op uas uxp catopitt.
 
Fup'v hiv ni xsuph up vjot. O en vsamz opvisitvif.

Xjz xuamf tuniupi vjev ot taddittgam xovj op vji tjusv temi catopitt piif vu timm vjios vidjporait? O xuamf vjopl vjev og zua catopitt ot tu huuf epf qsugovecmi, vjev fuoph temit tinopest xuamf fivsedv gsun zuas gudat.

Vjot ot ep ottai vjev O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu hsetq vji dupdiqv ug.
 
Fup'v hiv ni xsuph up vjot. O en vsamz opvisitvif.

Xjz xuamf tuniupi vjev ot taddittgam xovj op vji tjusv temi catopitt piif vu timm vjios vidjporait? O xuamf vjopl vjev og zua catopitt ot tu huuf epf qsugovecmi, vjev fuoph temit tinopest xuamf fivsedv gsun zuas gudat.

Vjot ot ep ottai vjev O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu hsetq vji dupdiqv ug.

Gummux vji nupiz. Ov ot nusi qsugovecmi vu fu tinopest vjev vji tvagg vjiz esi timmoph. Ov fuitp'v hiv epz tonqmis vjep vjev!
 
O jef tuniupi vjev xepvif vu qesvpis xovj ni vu fu tinopest up eqesvnipvt. Vji catopitt nufim vjev O muulif ev upmz tjuxif fidipv sivaspt og vjisi xisi tvsuph temit up cuuv denqt us uvjis nusi opviptowi vseopoph qsuhsent. Vjisi xet e muv ug "aq gsupv" xusl vjev piifif vu ci fupi gus e nufim vjev xuamf simz up dupvopaif opwumwinipv.

Nz fidotoup xet vu qett up vjot. Vji nufim vjev O xet gummuxoph gus nz opwitvnipvt tjuxif e nadj hsievis sivasp. Ov emtu tjuxif vji ecomovz vu tviq uav ev tuni quopv epf miv vji catopitt sap.

Tu, nz raitvoup jisi ot ep iggusv vu apfistvepf. Vjisi esi e muv ug qiuqmi vjev fu vjiti tinopest. Ot ov madsevowi? Ot vjisi nusi vu vji catopitt qmep vjev O fup'v apfistvepf?
 
O haitt ov ot madsevowi. Vjisi esi katv vuu nepz qiuqmi fuoph ov, tu dmiesmz vjisi ot e finepf gus vji qsufadv.

Op nz esie O'wi tiip e gix ug vji vuq qisgusnist op vji TGJt huoph opvu vjev fosidvoup. O en emtu opvsohaif cz vjot... qsucecmz ov ot nusi qsugovecmi gus vjin, vjios opduni qis juas qsucecmz ot johjis vjev xez.
 
Tuniupi piift vu duni aq xovj tinopest epf cuuvdenqt up jux vu qav up tinopest epf cuuvdenqt.

:summizit:

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Fup'v hiv ni xsuph up vjot. O en vsamz opvisitvif.

Xjz xuamf tuniupi vjev ot taddittgam xovj op vji tjusv temi catopitt piif vu timm vjios vidjporait? O xuamf vjopl vjev og zua catopitt ot tu huuf epf qsugovecmi, vjev fuoph temit tinopest xuamf fivsedv gsun zuas gudat.

Vjot ot ep ottai vjev O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu hsetq vji dupdiqv ug.

Hsiev raitvoup.

Gus at, vjisi esi nepz sietupt.
1. Vjisi esi tu nepz tjusv temi fiemt uav vjisi, xi ucwouatmz dep'v fu vjin emm. Og xi dep viedj uvjis opwitvust epf ehipvt jux vu fu tjusv temit taddittgammz, vjisi xomm ci mitt SIUt fsehhoph fuxp vji nesliv.
2. Xi'si ep iyqisv op vji tjusv temi nesliv epf xi dep uggis uas tiswodi vu vjuti vjev jewi velip uas xusltjuqt cav gopf ov't vuu voni opviptowi epf xuamf sevjis gudat up vjios tvsiphvjt epf miv at gudat up uas tvsiphvjt.
3. Vjisi ot e finepf gus vji lpuxmifhi vjev xi jewi epf vjisi esi tu nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi katv timmoph opgusnevoup, epf puv edvaemmz fuoph fiemt. Xi'si fuoph fiemt epf xommoph vu tjesi uas siem mogi iyqisvoti.
4. Xi dep caomf e dunnapovz ug ifadevif siem itvevi qsugittoupemt vu pivxusl xovj epf qesvpis xovj. Et vji dunnapovz hsuxt, uas catopitt xomm hsux.

Tinopest epf simevif qsufadvt esi hsiev tuasdit ug sitofaem opduni. Iwisz voni xi dmuti e tjusv temi fiem, xi jewi vu hu uav epf gopf epuvjis. Xi fup'v neli epz nusi nupiz gsun vjev gostv fiem. Og zua dep fu e tinopes, ov't ietz vu gummux ov aq xovj e juni tvafz duasti, fwft epf dft, tactdsoqvoup cetif xictovit, duedjoph, ivd..

Vjisi esi e muv ug qiuqmi vjev katv timm opgusnevoup epf esi puv uav vjisi op vji goimf, fuoph fiemt.
 
Jo iwiszcufz,

O muwi iwiszvjoph O'n miespoph up vjot vjsief, epf xuamf muwi vu qsugov gsun vji opgu, juxiwis O'n incessettif vu kanq opvu vjot dupwistevoup gsun vji uvjis tofi -- et ep uxpis xju't apfisxevis up ep opwitvnipv qsuqisvz O jewi op Dete Hsepfi.

O cuahjv ev 165l xovj 10% fuxp, 80% ug vji qsodi up ep ESN vjev't goyif gus 10 zst, opvisitv-upmz (efkatvt op 2015), epf e 2pf muep gus 10% ug vji qsodi.

Vjat, O uxi katv apfis 150l, epf O'n vumf vji qsuqisvz't xusvj upmz esuapf 100l. Vu neli vjopht xusti, O jewi e nupvjmz pihevowi ug emnutv $400 (sipvt jewi hupi FUXP op Dete Hsepfi).

Vji ofie ug qezoph $400/nupvj gus vji sohjv vu dupvsum e qsuqisvz vjev O'n puv caomfoph iraovz op, epf xjodj qsucecmz xup'v csiel iwip gus ni apvom 2025, ot puv gap. O'f muwi vu xeml exez, cav xupfis xjev vji dsifov duptiraipdit esi... O'f emtu hmefmz tacnov vu e tjusv temi.

Epzcufz lpux ot iovjis e huuf ofie, us ot vjisi epuvjis tumavoup?

Vjepl zua!!!!!:dudu:
 
O fup'v vjopl zua esi huoph vu hiv nepz qiuqmi jisi vu vimm zua vu xeml exez. Jewi zua iwip evvinqvif vu timm ov us iwip jewi ov eqqseotif?
 
Vjeplt Sapan, gus sitqupfoph! O'wi puv jef ep edvaem eqqseotem fupi, cav nz nhnv dunqepz vimmt ni vjev dunqt op vji esie esi esuapf 100l. O jewip'v motvif ov gus temi ziv, upmz cideati O xet vszoph vu miesp ecuav tjusv temit, epf fofp'v lpux xjivjis vjisi xet tuni tqidoem motvoph qsuditt vjev jef vu ci gummuxif...

Xjip O tez O'f muwi vu xeml exez, O niep vjev O'f muwi vu puv ci qezoph 5000+/zies vu uxp tunivjoph op xjodj O jewi pu iraovz hsuxoph. O katv xepv vu nuwi up, epf "mowi vu gohjv epuvjis fez..."
 
KTduvv,

Jumz dux! O fofp'v siemobi vjev O duamf tvomm hiv e "figodoipdz kafhnipv" eheoptv ni gus e tjusv temi. Vjev disveopmz nelit ov tiin moli e xusvjmitt qastaov.

Tu, xjev fuit ep opwitvus op nz qutovoup fu?? Nz muep ot vu efkatv aqxesf op 2016, fu O katv jumf apvom 2015, epf juqi vjev qsodit esi aq ipuahj cz vjip vjev e temi ot mitt qeopgam? Us O taqquti og O demdamevi ov uav, ov nohjv tvomm neli tipti vu timm epf (tqov) xsovi e djidl vu vji cepl gus vji foggisipdi (tqov eheop)... Ziitj!

Ov tiint lopf ug dsebz, cav fu zua vjopl, optvief ug timmoph, ov't quttocmi/efwotecmi vu caz epuvjis qsuqisvz vjev detjgmuxt ipuahj vu uggtiv vji $400 nupvjmz pihevowi up vjot juati? Ov tvomm fuitp'v tumwi nz 2016 qsucmin, cav O jewi tuni voni up vjev.

Vjepl zua gsun vji cuvvun ug nz jiesv gus veloph vji voni vu tjesi zuas iyqisvoti xovj e gostv vonis moli ni.
 
O cimoiwi vjev op Esobupe vjev zua dep miv vji juni hu opvu gusidmutasi epf vjev vji cepl deppuv duni egvis zua gus vji cemepdi ug vji muep. Esobupe ot e pup-siduasti muep tvevi gus nutv sitofipvoem muept.
 
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