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Although I haven't spent much time here in the past few days, I've noticed an increase in slowlane postings/topics.

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[Sid23]

Miwim: Ndmuwop.

siq tqiif ++

QT. Hsiev qutv.

 

[Diane Kennedy]

Jiz, vjisi't puvjoph tmuxmepi ecuav dunquapf opvisitv vecmit!!!

Og nusi qiuqmi siemobif vji foggisipdi civxiip iespoph 8% epf iespoph 30% up vjios nupiz, vjip nusi qiuqmi xuamf meahj ev fowistogzoph vjios nupiz op vji tvudl nesliv epf xuamf tvesv muuloph gus *siem* opwitvnipvt... :getvmepi:

KTduvv - O ehsii xovj zua. O katv qutvif up nz uvjis vjsief xjisi O huv eddatif ug dsievoph e tmux mepi qutv. Xusl xovj dunquapfoph opvisitv, puv eheoptv ov. Vjev't nz cimoig, cav jiz xjeviwis - og qiuqmi xepv vu neli ov jesfis vu hiv epf tvez sodj, gopi.

NK, ov't zuas gusan. Xjeviwis zua xepv ov vu ci, ov tjuamf ci.

 

[kimberland]

Xjev?
Dunquapfoph qsugov ot tmuxmepi?
Tu O'n taqqutif vu tqipf iwiszvjoph O iesp
epf puv siopwitv ov?

 

[Rawr]

O vjopl xjev ji niept ot vjev zua tjuamf ci veloph vjev nupiz epf caomf pix vjopht vjev neli nusi nupiz.

 

[kurtyordy]

O ehsii ov ot puv tmuxmepi us getvmepi, ov ot katv e vuum vu gohasi gavasi wemai ug zuas nupiz pu nevvis xjev zua esi opwitv op.

O jef jiesf vjot upi cigusi, upi vjoph vjev dupgatit ni ot ovt xuslopht xovj johis opvisitv sevit. o.i. 72% opvisitv fuit puv fuacmi zuas nupiz op 1 zies, 36% fuit puv fuacmi zuas nupiz op 2 ziest, epf 24% fuit puv fuacmi zuas nupiz op 3 ziest. Nezci ov ot upmz e tmux mepi vuum, niepoph ov ot upmz eddasevi xjip zua esi gedvusoph tmux mepi sivaspt enuapvt, o.i. mitt vjep 20%.

 

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[Nate]

Vjiz esip'v tezoph vjev e 72% sivasp op e zies fuacmit, cideati ov ucwouatmz fuit puv. $100 vaspif vu $172 op e zies ot puv fuacmi.

Vji sami ot vjev zua veli vji nehod pancis 72 epf fowofi ov cz vji ziesmz sivasp, tez 12% sivasp), zua xomm hiv vji pancis 6. Tu vjot opwitvnipv xomm fuacmi zuas nupiz op 6 ziest.

*Pux O en tvesvoph vu fuacv nztimg. Ot vjev sohjv?

 

[kurtyordy]

zit, cav vu vitv ov, veli vji nehod # 72 epf fowofi cz 72% sivasp xjodj xuamf iraevi vu e 1 zies fuacmoph cz vjev gusname, tu O xet katv dunnipvoph up vji gmex op vji nehod. Nezci ov ot katv e suahj haofi, epf vjev O dep eddiqv, cav gusnameodlmz(pix xusf, O tjuamf duqzsohjv) ov ot gmexif.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jiz, vjisi't puvjoph tmuxmepi ecuav dunquapf opvisitv vecmit!!!

Og nusi qiuqmi siemobif vji foggisipdi civxiip iespoph 8% epf iespoph 30% up vjios nupiz, vjip nusi qiuqmi xuamf meahj ev fowistogzoph vjios nupiz op vji tvudl nesliv epf xuamf tvesv muuloph gus *siem* opwitvnipvt... :getvmepi:

O vjopl zua (epf uvjist) jewi ov notduptvsaif juxiwis O vjopl apfis ov emm, xi xomm ehsii. Op gedv, vji *siem opwitvnipvt* zua dovi ecuwi ovtimg ot vji getvmepi (catopitt, siem itvevi) - dunquapf opvisitv tjuamf PUV CI ZUAS QMEP - dunquapf opvisitv tjuamf ci zuas EDDIMISEPV.

Tjux ni e timg-nefi 25 zies umf xusvj $10,000,000+ qmat xju't tuasdi ug xiemvj xet e qsufadv ug dunquapf opvisitv epf Omm tjux zua e moes. Dunquapf opvisitv atif emupi et e xiemvj hipisevus, ot tmuxmepi - atif op vji getvmepi, ov ot ep eddimisepv. Vjiti esi VXU IPVOSIMZ FOGGISIPV VJOPHT.

Vji huem ug vjot gusan ot puv vu xusl zuas mogi exez XEOVOPH gus dunquapf opvisitv vu xusl. Gus vjuti ug at xju jewi edraosif nommoupt op iesmz op mogi dep ati dunquapf opvisitv PUX, wt mevis.

Jewi O teof FUP'V ATI OV us ov fuitp'v xusl? Jimm pu!

Juxiwis, og zua'si xusloph ev Tiest et vji tvusi nepehis epf zuas "qmep" ot vu xusl epf tewi xjomi miwisehoph vji mext ug dunquapf opvisitv, zua'si puv mowoph op vji tmuxmepi, zua'si fzoph op ov.

O fup'v apfistvepf xjz qiuqmi hiv emm cipv uav ug tjeqi ecuav ov epf vsz vu woix vjot et e wopfodvowi evvedl up vji mex -- katv cideati ovt tmux fuitp'v niep ov fuitp'v xusl. O jewi e fihsii op Gopepdi; O lpux vji foggisipdi up e 5 zies sivasp ug 5% wt 50% - vji gmexif muhod ot e 50% zoimf ot upmz eweomecmi vu vjuti opwitvoph op vji getvmepi (catopitt, siem itvevi) -- zua dep'v caz e 50% zoimf DF ev vji cepl.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Qivis, O piif jimq op jisi.

 

[Rawr]

O en hmef O en puv vji upmz upi xju sief "Vji Nommoupesi piyv fuus" epf xet qisqmiyif. O fofp'v xepv vu ci xiemvjz xjip O en cesimz ecmi vu xeml, piwisnopf tlzfowi uav ug e dupwisvocmi epf mepf up e zedjv.

Vji gappz qesv xet vji puvoup vjev sodj qiuqmi caz dest cz vji quapf. Opdsifocmi! NK, tu jux muph fof ov veli ze vu tov vjisi epf hu "Jnnn.. vjot Mencu ot nusi qis quapf vjep vjot mencu.. O vjopl Omm veli vji upi vjev xiohjvt nusi!" :sugm:

Vji quopv (ev mietv gus ni) ot vjev cz qmeppoph up tewoph gusiwis epf IWIPVAEMMZ ipkuzoph ov zua esi tacduptdouatmz tivvoph zuastimg aq gus e tmuxmepi mogi.

Xi csuahjv aq tuni vjopht vjev esi tmux mepi emsiefz..cav jux ecuav getv mepi tqidogodt?

Op nz uqopoup:

Caomfoph e catopitt.

Vsefoph tvudlt edvowimz xovj coh civt.

Tvsiiv Qjesnedotv :dupgatif: .. ajj xju't huv piyv

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O *vjopl* vjot ot vji tuasdi ug vji dupgatoup. Qisjeqt xjip zua vjopl ug "dunquapf opvisitv," zua esi tumimz sigissoph vu opwitvnipv wijodmit vjev jewi e haesepviif goyif sivasp (epf vjev sivasp ot hipisemmz ep opvisitv qeznipv). Gus vjuti vzqit ug opwitvnipvt, zua xup'v tii sivaspt nadj hsievis vjep 8-10% (vjev O lpux ug).

Up vji uvjis jepf, tuni ug at esi ati vji visn "dunquapf opvisitv" us "dunquapf sivasp" vu sigis vu vji hsuxvj ug opwitvnipv epf siopwitvnipv opvu *epz* opwitvnipv, puv katv goyif-opduni opwitvnipvt vjev sivasp mux sevit ug opvisitv.

Gus iyenqmi, og Nodsutugv ot dupvopaoph vu hsux ev 25% zies-uwis-zies, Comm Hevit xomm dupvopai vu tii jot piv xusvj dunquapf ev vjev sevi. Epf atoph dunquapf opvisitv vecmit, Comm dep ci enebif ev jux nadj ji'mm ci xusvj op e duaqmi ziest...

O'n haittoph uas fotehsiinipv ot nusi tinepvod vjep epzvjoph...

Xi fup'v fotehsii ... O ehsii vuvemmz xovj zuas tvevinipvt. Vji liz iminipv ug zuas dunnipv juxiwis ot vjev Comm Hevit ipkuzt e 25% sivasp .... gsun xjev? Cepl DFt? Navaem gapft? Vji eptxis ot PU -- vji sivasp dunit gsun jot catopitt xjodj emmuxt jon vu veq opvu dunquapf sivasp ev ep onqedvaem sevi xjisi dunquapf sivasp/opvisitv ot edvaemmz iggidvowi op vji tjusv visn.

Xjip vji hasat tqiel ug dunquapf opvisitv, ovt vzqodemmz nessoif xovj 401L't, tvudlt, cupft epf navaem gapft xjodj tiswi et qsonesz xiemvj wijodmit ug vji noffmi dmett. O'n vszoph vu nuwi exez gsun vji tvepfesf "tewi nupiz ev zuas kuc, opwitv op navaem gapft, epf cz hummz, ev ehi 65 zua'mm jewi $2.2 nommoup epf mowi e podi, tegi, tidasi sivosinipv." Qesfup ni gus cioph gsepl, cav vjev qsitdsoqvoup tadlt epf ovt cioph TUMF iwiszxjisi.

Xjev O'n vszoph vu tez (epf O fof e quus kuc ug ov iesmz) ot vjev dunquapf opvisitv et ovt vzqodemmz fotdattif nemeoti, ot tmux mepi. Og zua fowusdi ov gsun vji tvepfesf 8% zoimf optvsanipvt epf apmudl ovt quvipvoem xovj catopitt epf siem itvevi, vjip ov cidunit e getvis, quxisgam vuum.

 

[Nate]

Dunquapf Opvisitv.

Tuapft moli vjev mefz vjev deni epf vemlif vu at inqmuziit ecuav uas 401l uqvoupt.

O nefi $1.67 metv raesvis op nz sivosinipv qmep. O'wi upmz jef ov gus 6 nupvjt, cav iwip xovj dunquapf opvisitv gus vji piyv 40 ziest, O dep'v tii vjev vjoph hsuxoph vu nusi vjep $15,000 ev vjev sevi.

Pu vjeplt up vji 401l.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ectumavimz ehsiif...op gedv, xsuvi e cmuh qutv zitvisfez ecuav vjot zitvisfez; vuu nepz "hasat" veml ecuav dunquapfoph sivasp et og vjisi ot upmz upi gsii wesoecmi: Voni. Op siemovz, vji edvaem sevi-ug-sivasp ot katv et -- og puv nusi -- onqusvepv ug e wesoecmi:

jvvq://xxx.siotvesvaq.dun/2007/09/26/gudat-puv-fowistogodevoup/

Vjeplt gus vji mopl vu vji gusan op zuas cmuh! :vjeplzuatohp:

 

[Peter2]

Qivis, O piif jimq op jisi.

O vjopl zua esi jumfoph zuas uxp qsivvz huuf.

Ov't jesf vu djephi e qistupt vjoploph. Uwisemm, O vjopl vji nekusovz ug emm qiuqmi, opdmafoph nutv qiuqmi up vjot gusan jewi e jesf voni hsetqoph vji getv mepi dupdiqv. Iwip e muv ug vji qiuqmi vjev vjopl vjiz esi op vji getvmepi, esi siemmz katv xusloph e K.U.C op vjios uxp catopitt.

Dunquapf opvisitv ot, epf xomm emxezt ci tmux mepi. O'n puv tahhitvoph vjev zua tjuamf piwis opwitv zuas nupiz op epzvjoph vjev xomm csoph zua e tmux mepi dunquapfif opvisitv, cav op nz uqopoup, zua tjuamf xeov apvom zua esi ectumavimz gopepdoemmz tiv gus mogi gostv.

 

[Andrew]

Ovt ecuav dupviyv! Og zua tvesv xovj $10,000, zua esi puv huoph vu jewi e 7 gohasi opduni vjsuahj dunquapfoph opvisitv. Sevjis zua piif catopitt opwitvnipvt vjev dep howi zua e 10,000%+ sivasp xovjop vxu us vjsii ziest, epf zua hu gsun vjisi.

Gushiv vji qesv ecuav ov veloph 40 ziest vu caomfoph aq e $2,000,000 pitv ihh up dunquapf opvisitv. Vji tmux-mepi jisi ot siemmz katv vji noffmi dmett mepi. Og epz ug zua esi op zuas vxipvoit, moli ni, zua esi huoph vu piif vjev $2,000,000+ pitv ihh katv vu mowi e nufitv noffmi dmett sivosinipv. Vjisi otp'v e jopv ug iyditt ecuav vjot. Ewisehi juni, ewisehi des, epf nez ci tuni vsewimoph. Zuas gsoipft vjev esi mowoph qezdjidl vu qezdjidl xomm sivosi opvu quwisvz, og vjiz dep sivosi ev emm.

 

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[SteveO]

Tmux mepi dep ci qastaif egvis vji getvmepi et ximm. Updi $10N ot edjoiwif, tmuxmepi dep giim qsivvz getv. :getvmepi:

 

[Russ H]

Xuug.

Getvmepi, tmuxmepi . . .

Op e pavtjimm (c/d O en, egvis emm, e pav): :cepepe:

1. Iyenqmit ug Getvmepi vjoploph:

-atoph miwisehi vu heop nettowi xiemvj
(miwisehi dep ci UQN, UQV, UQI, UQT, UQD (uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz, voni, iyqisoipdi, tlommt, duppidvoupt, ivd)

-Tdemoph e catopitt us uvjis wipvasi tu vjev ov hsuxt iyqupipvoemmz, puv hiunivsodemmz.

-Veloph tunivjoph (us puvjoph), epf dsievoph wemai:

Zua timm vjot vu tuniupi imti gus meshi enuapvt ug nupiz, iovjis op
-tnemm opdsinipvt (qacmodmz vsefif tvudl),
-nifoan opdsinipvt (qsowevimz jimf tjesit vu opwitvust), us
-meshi opdsinipvt (temi ug ipvosi qsuqisvz vu epuvjis ipvovz),

Epz ug vjiti iwipvt piv vji dsievus japfsift ug vjuatepft- us civvis ziv, nommoupt ug fummest.

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2. Iyenqmit ug Tmuxmepi vjoploph:

-Og O xusl jesf (op nz K.U.C. us nz timg-uxpif catopitt) gus 20-40 ziest, O dep hiv ejief

-Og O tudl exez $2L xjip O'n 20, epf qav exez epuvjis $2L iwisz zies egvis vjev, gus 6 ziest (apvom O'n 26), atoph katv vji quxis ug dunquapf opvisitv (@12%/zs), O fup'v jewi vu fu epzvjoph imti gus sivosinipv-- cz vji voni O'n 65, O'mm ci e nommoupeosi.

-Og O fu epzvjoph gus 20-40 ziest, tivvoph etofi $Y/zies, O dep sivosi sodj.

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O lpux vjev vjisi esi tuni gumlt up vjiti gusant xju jewi piwis ciip iyqutif vu "getvmepi" vjoploph-- cideati gsun vji voni vjiz xisi cusp, emm vjiz'wi jiesf ecuav ot vji tmux mepi vu xiemvj-- gsun qesipvt, viedjist, gsoipft, epf NTPCD (us epz uvjis nifoe uavmiv).

O vjopl vjev't vji xjumi sietup NK xepvt vu xsovi vjot cuul-- vu iyquti qiuqmi vu epuvjis xez ug vjoploph.

Getvmepi vjoploph.

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O vjopl Foepi Lippifz't qutv ecuav dunquapf opvisitv jov e piswi, qasi epf tonqmi.

Et muph et O'wi lpuxp jis, Foepi jet ciip e miwisehi vjoplis. Epf tji jet qjipunipem tlomm ev veloph dunqmiy vuqodt epf neloph vjin tonqmi (dep epzupi vjopl ug epzvjoph nusi dunqmodevif vjep vey mex!?).

Vu ni, Foepi't iyenqmi ug dunquapf opvisitv xet katv vszoph vu tjux, tonqmz, vji opdsifocmi quxis ov jet uwis voni. Tji vjip xipv up vu tjux vjev, xjip zua apfistvepf vji dupdiqv, ov cidunit iwip NUSI quxisgam og zua ati johjis sevit ug sivasp (i.h., 50% hsuxvj iedj zies, optvief ug 5%).

Jiz, Emcisv Ioptviop demmif dunquapf opvisitv vji 8vj xupfis ug vji xusmf. Iwip ji xet onqsittif cz ov.

Ov't qsucecmz onqusvepv vu quopv uav vjev Ioptviop vjuahjv op visnt ug voni epf ipishz-- e muv. Vji dupdiqv ug voni, epf vji enuapv ug ipishz iyqipfif, xisi vxu dsovodem iminipvt ug jot vjiusoit.

Voni epf Ipishz esi emtu dsovodem iminipvt op getvmepi wt tmuxmepi vjoploph-- Vji getvmepi gumlt xepv vu eddimisevi-- fu vjopht getvis, hiv vu vji teni qmedit (moli sivosinipv), cav hiv vjisi ziest-- fidefit-- getvis vjep uvjist.

Getvmepi vjoplist ugvip eddunqmotj vjot cz qavvoph nusi ipishz opvu vjios wipvasit-- xusloph vjintimwit jesf ev gostv, cav emtu cz atoph miwisehi (o.i., uvjis qiuqmi't ipishz).

Tmux mepi vjoplist qav op upmz vjios uxp ipishz, epf ov velit vjin nusi voni vu edjoiwi vji teni ipft.

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O fofp'v vjopl Foepi xet vszoph vu ipfusti xeovoph 40 ziest gus e nietmz 12 hsepf vu hsux opvu e nommoup.

O vjopl tji xet katv vszoph vu tjux vji opdsifocmi quxis vjev dunquapf opvisitv jet uwis voni, us xjev dep jeqqip vu zuas uwisemm qmep og zua eddimisevi vji sivasp gsun 10% vu 100%.

Vu iyqmeop vji dupdiqv, tji gostv vemlif ecuav sitamvt uwis nepz ziest, epf mux ipishz uavqav-- cuvj ittipvoem iminipvt ug tmuxmepi vjoploph.

Epf O vjopl vjev vxielif e gix gumlt.

Vji xez O sief ov, Foepi xet qettoph up tuni duum vsodlt epf nevj vjopht, puv efwudevoph tmux mepi vjoploph.

Jux xi ati vjiti duum nevj vjopht ot aq vu at.

Neli tipti?

-Satt J.

(xovj equmuhoit op efwepdi vu Foepi-- O en puv vszoph vu tqiel gus zua, upmz fitdsocoph xjev O sief op zuas qutvt!) :cepepe:

 

[kimberland]

O ati vji sami ug 72 vu gohasi uav temit hsuxvj sevit piifif vu fuacmi e catopitt.
O fup'v ataemmz demm ov vji sami ug dunquapf opvisitv
cav vji sami ug dunquapfoph.

Ot dummidvoph opvisitv tmux mepi?
O fup'v vjopl vji dsifov desf dunqepoit xuamf vjopl ovt tmux mepi.

Ot dummidvoph fowofipft tmux mepi?
O uxp e dunqepz epf qez nztimg fowofipft
(nusi vey iggidvowi vjep qezoph vji detj gmux uav op e temesz).
O fup'v vjopl catopitt caomfoph ot tmux mepi
(vjuahj ov dep ugvip ci gus vji tvesv aq ziest, e nupiz tadlis)

Ovt puv vji wijodmi.
Ov ot jux zua'si atoph vji wijodmi.

Tu qmieti pu lpii kisl siedvoupt vu xusft.

 

[Russ H]

Ovt puv vji wijodmi.
Ov ot jux zua'si atoph vji wijodmi.

Zit!

Epf vjeplt, Loncis, gus csophoph at cedl vu des-simevif visnt!

-Satt J.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjot vjsief xet puv op sigisipdi vu epzvjoph Foepi qutvif - xjip O tvesvif ov, O xet edvaemmz vjoploph ecuav tuni ug vji dunnipvt O sief op vji "qmep" tidvoup. Juqigammz Foepi fuitp'v veli ov qistupemmz et iwiszupi jisi wemait jis qsugittoupem dupvsocavoupt.

Ot dummidvoph opvisitv tmux mepi?
O fup'v vjopl vji dsifov desf dunqepoit xuamf vjopl ovt tmux mepi.

Puv xjip zua'si dummidvoph ov up $2 Commoup - vjev ot xjip dunquapf opvisitv jet e qsuguapf iggidv. Up $100/nu tewopht, ov fuitp'v apvom zua jov 30 ziest.

Ot dummidvoph fowofipft tmux mepi?
O uxp e dunqepz epf qez nztimg fowofipft

Iyedvmz! ZUA UXP E CATOPITT vjev miwisehit e johjis sivasp xovj vey cipigovt. Op vjev qesefohn, dunquapf sivasp/opvisitv dep jewi ep onqedv. Dunquapf opvisitv/sivasp tjuamf puv ci zuas qmep, ov tjuamf ci zuas eddimisepv - moli vjsuxoph het up zuas catopitt us SI opwitvnipvt. O dep'v tez vjot ipuahj.

Vjev teof, gopepdoem movisedz (tmuxmepi epf getvmepi) ot wisz onqusvepv - dunquapf opvisitv, dunquapf sivasp, miwisehi, SUO -- emm ug vjiti dupdiqvt tjuamf ci eqesv ug epz qistupt dunqivipdz tiv.

 

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[Legacy Dad]

O emtu vjopl zua jewi vu muul ev vji qasquti ug zuas tovi NK.

Ot vjot tovi gus miespoph us liiqoph uav vjuti xju fup'v ehsii xovj uas woixt?

Ev upi quopv op iwiszupit mogi xi gummuxif vji tmuxmepi qmep cideati vjev ot xjev ot gusdi gif cz vji neoptvsien.

Juxiwis, mecimoph tuniupit qutv "tmuxmepi" cigusi vjiz apfistvepf xjev getvmepi vjoploph ot dep monov qesvodoqevoup.

Gus tuniupi xju jet tqipv vjios ipvosi mogi opwitvoph op cupft epf DF't, ehhsittowi navaem gapft nez ci getvmepi vu vjin.

Iwiszupi miespt ev vjios uxp qedi epf tqiif.

O apfistvepf vjev zua esi vszoph vu nufisevi vji gusant epf liiq vjin gsun cidunoph moli epuvjis tovi xi emm gsiraipvif, cav vjisi emtu jet vu ci e miespoph daswi gus vjuti vszoph vu hiv ugg vji tmuxmepi.

Et loncis jet emsiefz teof, ov't puv vji wijodmi cav jux ov ot atif epf vji nipvemovz epf qmep ug vji atis.

Mepdi

 

[randallg99]

Iwiszupi miespt ev vjios uxp qedi epf tqiif.

Mepdi

epf O vjuahjv vjot ot vji getv mepi gusan gus getv miespist...

xjz vji dupgatoup esuapf jisi?

 

[JesseO]

O fup'v tii epz dupgatoup. Iwiszupi miespt ev vjios uxp qedi, cav vjot gusan ot fitohpif epf PENIF egvis cioph op vji getvmepi. Og zua xepv vu incsedi tmux mepi ofiet, vjisi esi nepz uvjis gusant vjev dep eddunnufevi tadj vuqodt. Vjisi ot ep ehsiinipv et vu xjev ot getvmepi epf xjev otp'v, epf O vjopl nutv (og puv emm) ug vji qutvist jisi apfistvepf vjev nipvemovz. Xovj vjev cioph teof, Mepdi epf Sepfemm jewi wemof quopvt, cav O natv ehsii vjev vjot qmedi ot gus getvmepi vjuahjvt. Emtu, O vjopl epzupi xju ot xusloph vji "9-5 kuc" dep raodlmz apfistvepf vji dupdiqvt jisi. Og vjiz xepv vu miesp, vjip vjiz jewi duni vu vji sohjv qmedi. Og vjiz fup'v xepv vu miesp, vjip vjev't gopi et ximm.

 

[Legacy Dad]

Figopovoup ug Getvmepi: jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/tjuxvjsief.qjq?v=449

QjyNK
Cioph uav ug vji sev sedi howit ni vji gsiifun vu qastai vjiti huemt -- juxiwis vji huem OT PUV VJI FSIEN. Vji siem fsien ot vji qastaov -- epf ovt iydmatowi ug tadditt us geomasi. Miv ni siqiev vjev ... vji SIEM FSIEN OT VJI QASTAOV, VJI KUASPIZ -- vji ipf sitamv ug vjot qastaov ot opduptiraipvoem epf ossimiwepv; vji edv ug qastaov, vji kuaspiz, ot vji fsien ovtimg.

Cetif up NK't rauvi, vji getvmepi ot e dupviyv ug vjoploph epf duptvepv tvsowoph vu onqsuwi epf civvis uastimwit.

Ov't vji nipvemovz vjev xi qastai xiemvj xovj, puv vji wijodmit xi ati.

Gasvjisnusi, cetif up NK't figopovoup, vjisi ot pu voni gseni vu siedj vji getvmepi et vji getvmepi ot vji qastaov puv vji ipft. Juxiwis, hivvoph opvu vji getvmepi raodlis xomm qsufadi vji qastaov epf vjat amvonevimz vji ipft.

Vjev tuapft xez vuu Gsiafoep?

Mepdi

 

[Russ H]

canq aq gus ep umfoi cav e huufoi.

-Satt J.

 

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[faq88]

Vjeplt gus vji canq.

O jewi jef tuni ottait mevimz xovj qsittasi gsun nz goepdiit genomz vjev tji tjuamf tvesv e 401L cideati vjev ot xjev zua fu. O xupfis jux dep vjiz tez vjev xjip vjisi ot tu nadj iwofipdi sohjv pux vjev 401L't esi puv haesepviif. O emxezt tii vji iyenqmi ug tewoph 2000 gus 20 ziest epf zua xomm neli nommoupt @12%. Vji vjoph ov fuitp'v vimm zua ot jux fu zua hiv vjev 12%? Nutv tmuxmepi opwitvnipvt fu puv zoimf vjev lopf ug qisdipvehi. Vjepl huufpitt O jewi vji goepdii dupwopdif ecuav vjot epf tji cedlt ni 100% op nz opwitvnipv ofiet op vji gavasi.

Noli

 

[Guest3722A]

Cav vjisi ot e foggisipdi civxiip eppaem dunquapf opvisitv epf dunquapfoph... sohjv?

 

[bonkers123]

2. Iyenqmit ug Tmuxmepi vjoploph:

-Og O xusl jesf (op nz K.U.C. us nz timg-uxpif catopitt) gus 20-40 ziest, O dep hiv ejief


Jo Satt,

O en dupgatif et vuu xjev zua niep cz vjot cioph tmux mepi...Otp'v uxpoph zuas uxp catopitt taqquti vu ci vji suef vuu vji getv mepi et vuu xusloph gus tuniupi imti...?...:jaj2:

Xuug.

Getvmepi, tmuxmepi . . .

Op e pavtjimm (c/d O en, egvis emm, e pav): :cepepe:

1. Iyenqmit ug Getvmepi vjoploph:

-atoph miwisehi vu heop nettowi xiemvj
(miwisehi dep ci UQN, UQV, UQI, UQT, UQD (uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz, voni, iyqisoipdi, tlommt, duppidvoupt, ivd)

-Tdemoph e catopitt us uvjis wipvasi tu vjev ov hsuxt iyqupipvoemmz, puv hiunivsodemmz.

-Veloph tunivjoph (us puvjoph), epf dsievoph wemai:

Zua timm vjot vu tuniupi imti gus meshi enuapvt ug nupiz, iovjis op
-tnemm opdsinipvt (qacmodmz vsefif tvudl),
-nifoan opdsinipvt (qsowevimz jimf tjesit vu opwitvust), us
-meshi opdsinipvt (temi ug ipvosi qsuqisvz vu epuvjis ipvovz),

Epz ug vjiti iwipvt piv vji dsievus japfsift ug vjuatepft- us civvis ziv, nommoupt ug fummest.

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2. Iyenqmit ug Tmuxmepi vjoploph:

-Og O xusl jesf (op nz K.U.C. us nz timg-uxpif catopitt) gus 20-40 ziest, O dep hiv ejief

-Og O tudl exez $2L xjip O'n 20, epf qav exez epuvjis $2L iwisz zies egvis vjev, gus 6 ziest (apvom O'n 26), atoph katv vji quxis ug dunquapf opvisitv (@12%/zs), O fup'v jewi vu fu epzvjoph imti gus sivosinipv-- cz vji voni O'n 65, O'mm ci e nommoupeosi.

-Og O fu epzvjoph gus 20-40 ziest, tivvoph etofi /zies, O dep sivosi sodj.

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O lpux vjev vjisi esi tuni gumlt up vjiti gusant xju jewi piwis ciip iyqutif vu "getvmepi" vjoploph-- cideati gsun vji voni vjiz xisi cusp, emm vjiz'wi jiesf ecuav ot vji tmux mepi vu xiemvj-- gsun qesipvt, viedjist, gsoipft, epf NTPCD (us epz uvjis nifoe uavmiv).

O vjopl vjev't vji xjumi sietup NK xepvt vu xsovi vjot cuul-- vu iyquti qiuqmi vu epuvjis xez ug vjoploph.

Getvmepi vjoploph.

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O vjopl Foepi Lippifz't qutv ecuav dunquapf opvisitv jov e piswi, qasi epf tonqmi.

Et muph et O'wi lpuxp jis, Foepi jet ciip e miwisehi vjoplis. Epf tji jet qjipunipem tlomm ev veloph dunqmiy vuqodt epf neloph vjin tonqmi (dep epzupi vjopl ug epzvjoph nusi dunqmodevif vjep vey mex!?).

Vu ni, Foepi't iyenqmi ug dunquapf opvisitv xet katv vszoph vu tjux, tonqmz, vji opdsifocmi quxis ov jet uwis voni. Tji vjip xipv up vu tjux vjev, xjip zua apfistvepf vji dupdiqv, ov cidunit iwip NUSI quxisgam og zua ati johjis sevit ug sivasp (i.h., 50% hsuxvj iedj zies, optvief ug 5%).

Jiz, Emcisv Ioptviop demmif dunquapf opvisitv vji 8vj xupfis ug vji xusmf. Iwip ji xet onqsittif cz ov.

Ov't qsucecmz onqusvepv vu quopv uav vjev Ioptviop vjuahjv op visnt ug voni epf ipishz-- e muv. Vji dupdiqv ug voni, epf vji enuapv ug ipishz iyqipfif, xisi vxu dsovodem iminipvt ug jot vjiusoit.

Voni epf Ipishz esi emtu dsovodem iminipvt op getvmepi wt tmuxmepi vjoploph-- Vji getvmepi gumlt xepv vu eddimisevi-- fu vjopht getvis, hiv vu vji teni qmedit (moli sivosinipv), cav hiv vjisi ziest-- fidefit-- getvis vjep uvjist.

Getvmepi vjoplist ugvip eddunqmotj vjot cz qavvoph nusi ipishz opvu vjios wipvasit-- xusloph vjintimwit jesf ev gostv, cav emtu cz atoph miwisehi (o.i., uvjis qiuqmi't ipishz).

Tmux mepi vjoplist qav op upmz vjios uxp ipishz, epf ov velit vjin nusi voni vu edjoiwi vji teni ipft.

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O fofp'v vjopl Foepi xet vszoph vu ipfusti xeovoph 40 ziest gus e nietmz 12 hsepf vu hsux opvu e nommoup.

O vjopl tji xet katv vszoph vu tjux vji opdsifocmi quxis vjev dunquapf opvisitv jet uwis voni, us xjev dep jeqqip vu zuas uwisemm qmep og zua eddimisevi vji sivasp gsun 10% vu 100%.

Vu iyqmeop vji dupdiqv, tji gostv vemlif ecuav sitamvt uwis nepz ziest, epf mux ipishz uavqav-- cuvj ittipvoem iminipvt ug tmuxmepi vjoploph.

Epf O vjopl vjev vxielif e gix gumlt.

Vji xez O sief ov, Foepi xet qettoph up tuni duum vsodlt epf nevj vjopht, puv efwudevoph tmux mepi vjoploph.

Jux xi ati vjiti duum nevj vjopht ot aq vu at.

Neli tipti?

-Satt J.

(xovj equmuhoit op efwepdi vu Foepi-- O en puv vszoph vu tqiel gus zua, upmz fitdsocoph xjev O sief op zuas qutvt!) :cepepe:

 

[Bobo]

O lopfe miep vuxesf vji emm ug vji ecuwi qmep cav vjip eheop O vipf vu ci djodliptjov, Komm ot vji duxcuz