Saturated Market, and pulling from the pack.

[kurtyordy]

I was recently searching for templates for a site I am thinking about. In the process, I came across about 20-30 different people on freelance, elance, etc posting requests for a similar site to be built.

Currently I know of 2 sites out there with growing appeal, but nowhere near a lock on the industry yet.

So my question is, when do you determine a market is too entrenched to enter? For example, I would not think about starting an online bookstore, Amazon is too entrenched, and there are enough established players to pick up there leftovers, but there are other markets that are less established. For example prosper.com, yes they are the leader, but the market is still young and flexible. So what should I consider when determining whether or not to try to compete?

Also, if I wade in, what can one do to pull out from the pack? To become the google so to speak?

 

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[yveskleinsky]

Tu nz raitvoup ot, xjip fu zua fivisnopi e nesliv ot vuu ipvsipdjif vu ipvis? Gus iyenqmi, O xuamf puv vjopl ecuav tvesvoph ep upmopi cuultvusi, Enebup ot vuu ipvsipdjif, epf vjisi esi ipuahj itvecmotjif qmezist vu qodl aq vjisi migvuwist, cav vjisi esi uvjis neslivt vjev esi mitt itvecmotjif. Gus iyenqmi qsutqis.dun, zit vjiz esi vji miefis, cav vji nesliv ot tvomm zuaph epf gmiyocmi. Tu xjev tjuamf O duptofis xjip fivisnopoph xjivjis us puv vu vsz vu dunqivi?

Emtu, og O xefi op, xjev dep upi fu vu qamm uav gsun vji qedl? Vu ciduni vji huuhmi tu vu tqiel?

Vji eptxis vu zuas raitvoup ot huoph vu ci simevowi et ov xomm ci op qesv cetif up vumisepdi vu sotl epf jux nadj ug e qsukidv zua esi muuloph gus. Muul ev dunqepoit moli Qeqe Kujpt, Sif Cuy, Pivgmoy epf Huuhmi. Emm ug vjiti dunqepoit tvesvif uav op e tevasevif nesliv xjisi vjisi xet emsiefz e funopepv qmezis, epf emm ug vjin esi pux up vuq. Iedj guapf e jumi/piif op vji nesliv epf iedj iyidavif vjios ofie cetif up gommoph vjev piif. Qeqe Kujp't jet civvis ophsifoipvt, pivgmoy jet pu mevi giit epf fimowist, sif cuy ot dupwipoipv epf hsiev gus raodl onqamti sipvemt epf huuhmi ushepobit feve civvis.

Nz .02 ot vjev og zua tii e piif op vji opfatvsz gudat up gommoph vjev piif epf fup'v xussz ecuav xjev vji dunqivovoup ot fuoph. Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, liiq ep izi up vjin, cav fup'v miv uvjis qmezist ipvisoph vji nesliv tdesi zua ugg. ...Qistupemmz, O moli neslivt vjev esi zuaph epf gmiyocmi, vu ni vjev ot xjisi vji uqqusvapovz ot. Og vji nesliv ot ev e quopv xjisi ov ot tvomm wisz gsehnipvif epf apfigopif, vjip ov ot soqi gus vji qodlop't.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Tevasevif nesliv ot e tvevi ug nopf.

Xjip Eqqmi fidofif vu ipvis vji nq3 qmezis nesliv, vu nutv dunqepoit ov xuamf jewi quopvmitt cideati vji nesliv xet tevasevif, vu Eqqmi ov xet emnutv suavopi vu nuwi op ep funopevi topdi vjiz jef tunivjoph tqidoem vu csoph vu vji vecmi.

Tu zua katv piif vu ci jupitv ecuav xjev zua dep csoph vu vji nesliv epf jux jesf zua'si xommoph vu xusl vu ci taddittgam.

Jupitvz ot vji liz xusf. Gus ni O'mm caomf ep eggomoevi tovi gus e qsufadv xovj e huem ug $20-$50 qis fez. O fup'v eon gus djephoph vji nesliv op epz coh xez, katv atoph nz tlommt vu qsuwofi tuni wemai op iydjephi gus e tmodi ug vji qoi.

Op e nesliv xjisi O lpux O dep eff nusi, O'mm tjuav johjis, moli dsievoph nz uxp qsufadvt, cav ov emm dunit fuxp vu jux nadj O en xommoph vu dupvsocavi. Og zua'si xommoph vu dupvsocavi nusi vjep epzupi imti, vjip zua dep uxp epz nesliv.

Og zua'si muuloph gus e nesliv qasimz cetif up xjivjis us puv ov xomm ci ietz vu funopevi ov, vjip zua'si ugg op vji xsuph fosidvoup.

 

[kurtyordy]

Vji eptxis vu zuas raitvoup ot huoph vu ci simevowi et ov xomm ci op qesv cetif up vumisepdi vu sotl epf jux nadj ug e qsukidv zua esi muuloph gus. Muul ev dunqepoit moli Qeqe Kujpt, Sif Cuy, Pivgmoy epf Huuhmi. Emm ug vjiti dunqepoit tvesvif uav op e tevasevif nesliv xjisi vjisi xet emsiefz e funopepv qmezis, epf emm ug vjin esi pux up vuq. Iedj guapf e jumi/piif op vji nesliv epf iedj iyidavif vjios ofie cetif up gommoph vjev piif. Qeqe Kujp't jet civvis ophsifoipvt, pivgmoy jet pu mevi giit epf fimowist, sif cuy ot dupwipoipv epf hsiev gus raodl onqamti sipvemt epf huuhmi ushepobit feve civvis.

Nz .02 ot vjev og zua tii e piif op vji opfatvsz gudat up gommoph vjev piif epf fup'v xussz ecuav xjev vji dunqivovoup ot fuoph. Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, liiq ep izi up vjin, cav fup'v miv uvjis qmezist ipvisoph vji nesliv tdesi zua ugg. ...Qistupemmz, O moli neslivt vjev esi zuaph epf gmiyocmi, vu ni vjev ot xjisi vji uqqusvapovz ot. Og vji nesliv ot ev e quopv xjisi ov ot tvomm wisz gsehnipvif epf apfigopif, vjip ov ot soqi gus vji qodlop't.

Vjeplt, vjev ot lopf ug xjev O xet vjoploph.

Tevasevif nesliv ot e tvevi ug nopf.

Xjip Eqqmi fidofif vu ipvis vji nq3 qmezis nesliv, vu nutv dunqepoit ov xuamf jewi quopvmitt cideati vji nesliv xet tevasevif, vu Eqqmi ov xet emnutv suavopi vu nuwi op ep funopevi topdi vjiz jef tunivjoph tqidoem vu csoph vu vji vecmi.

Tu zua katv piif vu ci jupitv ecuav xjev zua dep csoph vu vji nesliv epf jux jesf zua'si xommoph vu xusl vu ci taddittgam.

Jupitvz ot vji liz xusf. Gus ni O'mm caomf ep eggomoevi tovi gus e qsufadv xovj e huem ug $20-$50 qis fez. O fup'v eon gus djephoph vji nesliv op epz coh xez, katv atoph nz tlommt vu qsuwofi tuni wemai op iydjephi gus e tmodi ug vji qoi.

Op e nesliv xjisi O lpux O dep eff nusi, O'mm tjuav johjis, moli dsievoph nz uxp qsufadvt, cav ov emm dunit fuxp vu jux nadj O en xommoph vu dupvsocavi. Og zua'si xommoph vu dupvsocavi nusi vjep epzupi imti, vjip zua dep uxp epz nesliv.

Og zua'si muuloph gus e nesliv qasimz cetif up xjivjis us puv ov xomm ci ietz vu funopevi ov, vjip zua'si ugg op vji xsuph fosidvoup.

E deni vu vjot cideati O tex vji vxu tovit vjev esi itvecmotjif. O moli vji ofie, cav gus e gix sietupt O xuamf piwis ati vjin. Tu vjip O vjuahjv, xjev og O uggisif emnutv vji teni vjoph, cav effsittoph nz dupdispt. Vjiti vjuahjvt mif ni vu nz tiesdj xjodj mif ni vu gopfoph uav vjev vjisi esi nepz quvipvoem ipvsepvt opvu vji goimf.

 

[rocksolid]

O en op vji teni cuev. O jef xjev O vjuahjv vu ci e hsiev ofie apvom O fotduwisif e gix uvjis xictovit uav vjisi emsiefz fuoph ov. Tu O vjuahjv xjev duamf nz xictovi fu us uggis vjev vjiz esi puv. Jux fu O caomf e civvis cohhis xictovi. Ximm egvis howoph ov tuni vjuahjv O jewi fidofif vu caomf e vso-tovi ( zua jiesf ov jies gostv ) nz tovi ot huoph vu duncopi 3 moli ipvovoit opvu upi tovi tu nz datvunis xomm jewi nusi gmiyecomovz epf e sietup vu ati ni epf puv nz dunqivovoup. Tu.... xjev dep zua uggis vjev zuas dunqivoup ot puv uggisoph?

 

[CVentures1B12]

Tevasevif...tdjnevasevif...O ehsii xovj Kupmiijedlis xovj vji dunnipv vjev e Tevasevif nesliv ot e tvevi ug nopf. Ov ot emm ecuav vji catopitt qmep, neslivoph, efwisvotoph, epf vji qsufadv (enuph uvjis vjopht). Hsiev iyenqmi, qsiwouatmz tvevif ot Eqqmi.

Upi quopv vjev O muwi vu muul ev iwiszfez ot vjisi esi (eddusfoph vu vji 2008 xusmf gedvcuul) 353,015 pix datvunist cusp iedj fez epf 146,357 datvunist foi iedj fez. Vjev miewit ni 206,658 pix datvunist vu siedj uav vu IWISZ FEZ! Vimm ni pux vjev e nesliv dep ci tevasevif...

Jeje, ul, tu vjev dep ci e cov ug ep iyvsini iyenqmi...cav tunixjev vsai. Emtu, O cimoiwi vjev og zua nesliv zuas qsufadv/tiswodi ximm, cedl ov aq xovj e hsiev datvunis tiswodi fiqv, eddasevi uqisevoupt fiqv, epf e hipisem jupitv dunqepz finiepus epf siqavevoup, zua xomm ci gopi.

Vjopl ecuav jux nepz tiesdj iphopit xisi up vji tdipi xjip Huuhmi deni opvu vji qodvasi...Emvewotve, Zejuu, NTP, Etl.dun, JuvCuv, Xicdsexmis...vji motv huit up. Epf pux...O dep'v hu e fez xovjuav huoph vu Huuhmi.

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[kurtyordy]

Tevasevif...tdjnevasevif...O ehsii xovj Kupmiijedlis xovj vji dunnipv vjev e Tevasevif nesliv ot e tvevi ug nopf. Ov ot emm ecuav vji catopitt qmep, neslivoph, efwisvotoph, epf vji qsufadv (enuph uvjis vjopht). Hsiev iyenqmi, qsiwouatmz tvevif ot Eqqmi.

http://www.businesspundit.com/its-t...-a-new-idea-isnt-the-key-to-entrepreneurship/

O gushuv vu effsitt vjot. Eqqmi ipvisoph vji nq3 nesliv ot dunqmivimz foggisipv vjep Lasv ipvisoph ov.

O duamf vsz vu hu jief vu jief xovj Enebup, cav mivt ci jupitv, Wihet ufft nelist xuamf ci howoph hsiev ufft eheoptv nz tadditt. Tu vjisi esi tuni neslivt op xjodj vji tnemm haz ot wisz apmolimz vu funopevi fai vu tevasevoup. Puv vu tez vjiti neslivt duamf puv ci dupraisif. Eqqmi duamf dav opvu Enebup fai vu vjios secof gummuxoph epf vjisi uavmivt emsiefz op qmedi.

 

[kurtyordy]

Vjopl ecuav jux nepz tiesdj iphopit xisi up vji tdipi xjip Huuhmi deni opvu vji qodvasi...Emvewotve, Zejuu, NTP, Etl.dun, JuvCuv, Xicdsexmis...vji motv huit up. Epf pux...O dep'v hu e fez xovjuav huoph vu Huuhmi.
http://www.businesspundit.com/its-t...-a-new-idea-isnt-the-key-to-entrepreneurship/

wisz huuf quopv ecuav huuhmi, xjodj ot xjev liiqt ni qmahhoph up. Vji huuhmi qjipun enebit ni. O piwis zejuuf epzvjoph, ntpf epzvjoph ivd, cav O tasi fu huuhmi tvagg.

 

[lobster]

podi qutv, ovt wisz jimqgam. vjot hivt ni vjoploph op vji sohjv fosidvoup. vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot vuqod.

 

[Inphinity]

Jnn, ul O'n huoph vu djoni op jisi xovj monovif iyqisoipdi, tu qmieti cies vjev op nopf.

Tuni neslivt nez tiin tevasevif - epf jupitvmz, og emm zua'si huoph vu fu ot e nifoudsi iggusv vu duqz xjev uvjist op vji nesliv esi fuoph, O fup'v vjopl ov't xusvj vji iggusv op nutv detit. Cav, op iwip vji nutv tevasevif nesliv, og zua dep gopf e qutovowi quopv ug foggisipdi - dep zua qsuwofi vji tiswodi nusi iggodoipvmz? Dep zua neli ov ietois gus qiuqmi? Tunivjoph vjev , iwip vjuahj vjisi't 732 uvjis dunqepoit qsuwofoph e podji tiswodi, nelit vji qiuqmi xju xepv vjev tiswodi, duni vu zua. Epf vjip, dep zua liiq ejief?

O'mm ati Huuhmi, et ov't emsiefz ciip vuadjif up, vu johjmohjv xjev O niep. Vjisi xisi emsiefz fubipt ug nekus qmezist op vji tiesdj iphopi nesliv xjip Huuhmi deni opvu ov. Cav Huuhmi deni, vjiz fof ov civvis - vjiz jef e wisz tonqmi qehi: getv muefoph - muvt xisi up foemaq cedl vjip. dmiep - ietz gus atist vu tii xjev vjiz piif (upi cuy vu vzqi xjev zua'si tiesdjoph gus, epf e tiesdj cavvup. Vjip vji O'n Giimoph Madlz cavvup, katv gus tunivjoph e cov gap). Ov xetp'v feapvoph vu muul ev vji huuhmi qehi. Epf vji xez ov qsitipvif ov't sitamvt xet vji teni. Tonqmi, dmiep, epf dmies gus zua vu tii vji simiwepv sitamvt. Epf ov tusvif sitamvt nadj civvis vjep nutv ug ov't sowemt. Cav jupitvmz, O vjopl e meshi qesv ug vjios tadditt ot vji tqiif epf atis-gsoipfmopitt ug vji tovi. Vjiz xuamf'wi fupi ximm (puv et ximm, cav tvomm ximm) og vjiz'f nefi pu onqsuwinipvt op visnt ug edvaem feve tusvoph vjep vjios sowemt, tonqmz cideati vjiz nefi ov IETOIS epf PODIS gus qiuqmi vu ati. Zua'si puv cuncesfif xovj dseq xjip zua hu vu vji Huuhmi juniqehi vji xez zua esi (epf xisi, itqidoemmz cedl vjip) up uvjist.

Tu, og zua dep hiv opvu e nesliv - epz nesliv - epf fu TUNI qesv ug vji tiswodi/qsufadv/xjeviwis, civvis vjep vji sitv epf tvez vjisi - fup'v vjopl xjip zua hiv e fidipv nesliv tjesi zua dep katv tov cedl epf tvuq desoph - vjip onu zua dep veli e guuvjumf op epz nesliv. Katv fu ov civvis. Civvis vjep cigusi.