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Tracked down @Ubermensch for a discussion about Robert Greene, game theory, and strategic warfare in business.

Here's the recording for the Introduction to this thread:

Sales: Power, Seduction, War and Mastery in Business (Introduction)

Cliffnotes:


    • Chapter 8 of 50th Law is the chapter on Mastery, which evolved into the entire book of Mastery
    • All of Greene’s philosophy connects
    • Metaphorically, each tenet in Sun-Tzu (huge part of Greene’s work) is seen as a very strong cord, and that when woven together, they are unbreakable
    • From a hustler’s perspective, all of this strategy is extremely comforting
    • Game theory is a SCIENCE -- a concrete way to get what you want
    • Game Theory is reflected in the Art of War
    • If you are a nobody with knowledge of all of these concepts, you have incredible potential energy
    • To the extent that you apply these strategies, the greater your success
    • Strategy is not checkers OR chess; it’s GO
    • GO is the ultimate game of formlessness and flow
    • Greene says be more Eastern in your thinking
    • The Vietnamese taught the US a big lesson in the science of strategy
    • Everything, good or bad, is your fault (you made your own bed)
    • You deserve every bit of shame or pride that you have
    • Greene broke down the secret to Universe domination
    • Salespeople need these books as a foundation for a powerful mindset in order to apply these laws in the real world
    • At a certain point, you will be able to look at the world through the lens of the 48 Laws so that you may apply them to every situation
    • The world becomes a GO board
    • Appealing to the self-interest of others is key in sales
    • It’s not about you or your pitch; It’s about listening and asking questions
    • You don’t need to learn all of these “tricks”; all of the body language and everything will come naturally
    • Spin Spelling is the ultimate guideline for BIG sales because it is empirically proven
    • Different Laws are required for every single situation
    • If you have the 48th Law as your guiding post, and the first few Laws, the others come naturally
    • Salespeople often make the mistake of talking too much; listening is key because the prospect is able to tell you everything you need to do to close him
    • Screw the 10 minute pitch, focus on hearing what they need
    • Doing business with friends is dangerous if not set up in the right way.
    • Friendship should be built on business, but business shouldn’t be built on friendship
    • It can be a motivating factor to do business with friends, because the friendship is on the line as well
    • Friendships are potentially the most enduring business relationships if done the right way
    • Money over everything because money is the only objective standard that we have to measure success
    • Money is the empirical data of society.
    • In the 50th Law, it is incredibly interesting to see history told from the victor (50 Cent over Jarule)
    • This was a modern day slaying
    • Examples can be seen in corporate America (Instagram and Kodak)
    • Everything is connected politically
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Jisi't vji sidusfoph gus vji Opvsufadvoup vu vjot vjsief:

Temit: Quxis, Tifadvoup, Xes epf Netvisz op Catopitt (Opvsufadvoup)

Dmoggpuvit:


    • Djeqvis 8 ug 50vj Mex ot vji djeqvis up Netvisz, xjodj iwumwif opvu vji ipvosi cuul ug Netvisz
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Xi tjuamf fu ep opviswoix xovj Sucisv Hsiipi.

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Jisi't vji sidusfoph gus vji Opvsufadvoup vu vjot vjsief:

Temit: Quxis, Tifadvoup, Xes epf Netvisz op Catopitt (Opvsufadvoup)

Dmoggpuvit:


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@Vjoehu Nedjefu


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